View Full Version : Mosin-Nagant M91/30
Slater
02-24-2008, 09:50 AM
Picked this up at a gun show yesterday ($64.93 total). A 1944-dated M91/30 with accessories. Has a quite nice bore for such an old rifle, and is one of the many refurbished Mosins on the market these days.
As far as the basic strength of the action, how does the Mosin-Nagant compare with the Mauser 98 series?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/pb57/HPIM0715.jpg
California Joe
02-24-2008, 10:47 AM
That's a beauty. Especially for the price.
No idea as far as comparative "strength". As long as the action is strong enough for it's intended cartridge I think you're good to go.
Chulo
02-24-2008, 10:50 AM
Yea thats a nice price.. i had one guy try to sell me one "retouched" Nagant for $250 ..lol
gaijinsamurai
02-24-2008, 12:50 PM
Nice Mosin-Nagant, Slater!
If you are comparing it to a typical K.98, you'll probably find the Mauser's action is a little smoother. Also, some M91/30s can tend to have issues with extraction. You will also find more noticable recoil.
Even so, they are great rifles, and incredibly accurate.
Congratulations on the purchase. You got a great deal.
Enjoy!
Hollis
02-24-2008, 12:50 PM
Very very nice find. Great price.
apasc08
02-24-2008, 01:45 PM
i own one also. I bought it at a dunhams sporting goods store for 80 bucks with a case of ammo. great gun. shoots straight but jams a lot on the ejection.
LaoSexMachine
02-24-2008, 02:09 PM
I have one too. You got an awesome deal.
i own one also. I bought it at a dunhams sporting goods store for 80 bucks with a case of ammo. great gun. shoots straight but jams a lot on the ejection.Mine did that too if I use steel case ammo. When I use brass it ejects properly.
mas-36
02-24-2008, 02:41 PM
Thats a great buy for all that stuff included. I myself have a mosin m91/20, but not nearly as nice as the one picture above.
For those who have Mosin rifles, here is a nice site with photos of markings to help you identify where your Mosin was manufactured. A bit basic and general, but helpful nonetheless.
http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinMarks01.htm
Also, some M91/30s can tend to have issues with extraction.
Can those of you who have had problems with extraction describe it in detail. I have used Mosins for years and have never had extraction problems. (I have two M91/30s, two 1944 carbines, and one 1938 carbine... the latter being my fav despite the flash and kick of the carbines.. :) )
JJB1970
02-24-2008, 06:12 PM
Picked this up at a gun show yesterday ($64.93 total). A 1944-dated M91/30 with accessories. Has a quite nice bore for such an old rifle, and is one of the many refurbished Mosins on the market these days.
Really nice find, Slater.
I don't expect you'll have any problems with your 91/30. On occasion mine has suffered from "sticky bolt" at ejection, but it isn't very frequent. When it has, a slight application of force has worked quite well so far.
If it is a shooter, you might want to invest in a slip-on recoil pad--or wear 5 layers of clothing when you shoot it. They are cheap and worth it. I discovered that without the recoil pad the first 20 rounds are really fun. Rounds 20-40 you begin to feel sore. Then rounds 40-100 become excruciating. My right shoulder (nearly to my ribs) and part of my upper right arm turned black and blue after the first day I took mine to the range.
It's funny now, but unless I am wearing winter clothing, I use the recoil pad!:)
Have fun with your 91/30!
LaoSexMachine
02-24-2008, 06:15 PM
Can those of you who have had problems with extraction describe it in detail. I have used Mosins for years and have never had extraction problems. (I have two M91/30s, two 1944 carbines, and one 1938 carbine... the latter being my fav despite the flash and kick of the carbines.. :) )
Like I said before if I use steel case ammo I always have extraction problems but when I use brass case ammo the extraction works properly.
JJB1970
02-24-2008, 06:28 PM
Can those of you who have had problems with extraction describe it in detail. I have used Mosins for years and have never had extraction problems. (I have two M91/30s, two 1944 carbines, and one 1938 carbine... the latter being my fav despite the flash and kick of the carbines.. :) )
I was busy posting and missed your post, Gaz.
"Sticky bolt" is when after firing a round the bolt refuses to turn to allow ejection of the spent cartridge. Most of the Mosin-Nagant owners I have met have had happen--some more frequently than others. My 91/30 has done it a couple of times. As it has happened so infrequently to my rifle I've never considered it to be a serious problem--but I have seen a couple of fixes for it. One of the Mosin boards or one of the surplus rifle websites has a section dedicated to "Sticky Bolt."
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/eliminatesbs/index.asp
Createdeemcee
02-25-2008, 11:16 AM
Great deal with all of the accessories that yours came with. There are fun heavy hitting rifles. It will be one of your favorites especially when one of your bold friends tries to shoot it then hands it back. Looks like its in great condition, let us know how she fires.
"Sticky bolt" is when after firing a round the bolt refuses to turn to allow ejection of the spent cartridge. Most of the Mosin-Nagant owners I have met have had happen--some more frequently than others.
Guess I have been lucky. Have used Chinese, Yugoslavian, and Russian ammo and have never had problems with ammo. I don't use stripper clips and normally manually load one round at a time but have never had a jam or misfeed. Till I read it here I didn't think it was possible with the Mosin.
You learn something new everyday I guess.
JJB1970
02-26-2008, 08:26 PM
Guess I have been lucky. Have used Chinese, Yugoslavian, and Russian ammo and have never had problems with ammo. I don't use stripper clips and normally manually load one round at a time but have never had a jam or misfeed. Till I read it here I didn't think it was possible with the Mosin.
You learn something new everyday I guess.
I don't think it is luck--I think you have been more successful at cleaning away all of the cosmoline than many of us! Because I shoot corrosive ammo (most of the time) through mine, I clean my 91/30 immediately before I put it away. Plus, I tend to over grease all of my rifles. I suspect that is why I have only had it happen a couple of times to my Mosin. My feeling is that there are a lot of rifles out there that are rarely cleaned and end up having problems like "sticky bolt."
Plus, I will bet that there are folks that don't even try to get all of the cosmo in the first place!
No, you've probably done a fine job in cleaning, Gaz.
Cheers!
I do tend to clean my Mosins more often than I shoot some of them... but tend to leave them in a dry condition. The internal bore is chrome lined so just keeping it free of dirt seems to work best, while the external surfaces just get a wipe down if they get wet.
I have only ever had two problems with any of my Mosins. My 1938 carbine had a hair trigger that was just too dangerous and it also needed the chamber reamed to lengthen the head space because the bolt wouldn't close on standard ammo. Once fixed by the local gunsmith I haven't had any problems with it or the others. The 38 carbine being an excellent little bush rifle... short and relatively light but with plenty of power to drop the biggest pig or deer.
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