View Full Version : Chechnya - a few more fotos
shuravee
05-25-2004, 10:38 AM
Russians are coming! :)
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5561.jpg
Russian Mi-26 heavy cargolifter at Grozny airport, Checnya. At the ground, there is a debris of light jet plane - at the beginnig of conflict, Chechen separatists even got their own Air Forces - dozens of armed training jets. First strike of Russian Air Forces hit all their aviation at the gruond.
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Russian tank firing the separatist positions.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5560.jpg
Launch of the giuded tactical missile.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5568.jpg
Unidentifyed person (probably Chechenian terrorist) firing wih grenade laucher.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5562.jpg
Russian troops have a rest.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5563.jpg
Russian troopers wrote the names of their cities at the wall.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5564.jpg
Russian trooper at winter uniform escort childrens to the safe place.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5567.jpg
Bodies of "Allakh warriors" at the roadside.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5566.jpg
Column of Russian APCs at Chechen village.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5557.jpg
Russian soldier drops the "JIHAD" sign to the mud.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5565.jpg
scm77
05-25-2004, 10:46 AM
Cool pics. What a **** hole. You might want to put a "graphic image" warning on that one pic, but it's not too bad.
robmika
05-25-2004, 12:40 PM
That photo of the troop escorting the kids kind of tugs at the heart... They are the real victims of all the adult BS going on. :(
scrybe
05-25-2004, 03:42 PM
Yea, pretty sadi what is going on over there.
I've noticed though, why do all pictures coming out of that area appear 20 years old? Have they really not caught up with photographic technology? Wether it be digital or just more advanced film cameras.
Russian Texan
05-25-2004, 03:54 PM
Yea, pretty sadi what is going on over there.
I've noticed though, why do all pictures coming out of that area appear 20 years old? Have they really not caught up with photographic technology? Wether it be digital or just more advanced film cameras.
Because thay are scanned from different magazines, therefore quality deteriorates. Here is the link to the "first-hand source"
http://www.pbase.com/igor01/chechnya&page=1
LordHalbert
05-25-2004, 03:59 PM
What weapon is he holding?
http://mishopi.image.pbase.com/u9/igor01/upload/1649565.cecenija_6.jpg
Russian Texan
05-25-2004, 04:08 PM
PKM
droopy
05-25-2004, 04:36 PM
I think that is the ugliest war in the 1989-2004 period.
From the climatic conditions,to the savage nature of combat evrething is ugly .
If a war can be called "ugly" :(
Russian Texan
05-25-2004, 04:40 PM
I think that is the ugliest war in the 1989-2004 period.
From the climatic conditions,to the savage nature of combat evrething is ugly .
Name me a single "pretty" war. War is always ugly and brutal, althougth I can't think of any place worse than Chechnya 1994-2002.
Igor01
05-25-2004, 10:13 PM
Yea, pretty sadi what is going on over there.
I've noticed though, why do all pictures coming out of that area appear 20 years old? Have they really not caught up with photographic technology? Wether it be digital or just more advanced film cameras.
Because thay are scanned from different magazines, therefore quality deteriorates. Here is the link to the "first-hand source"
http://www.pbase.com/igor01/chechnya&page=1
Thanks for the props Russian Texan, but my gallery is hardly the "first-hand source" for these images. I've got these these particular pictures from RomanStepanov who, I believe, have received them from his contacts at the Bratishka magazine.
ZeroPositive
05-25-2004, 10:26 PM
excellent photos not often we see photos of the conflict.
anonymous individual
05-25-2004, 10:43 PM
Nice pictures.
haze99
05-26-2004, 06:58 AM
I need some data, as of now, how many Russian troops have been Killed-in-Action? How many are Missing-In-Action?
These will probably be an approximate, how many Chechen fighters have been killed?
This all began in December 1994, right?
Roger Rabbit
05-26-2004, 08:33 AM
Do a search, theres plenty of topics on this forum about Chechnya, incluing why the first and second war started and casualties.
Edit:search function isnt working for me so i can't help.
Abbyy
05-26-2004, 09:46 AM
Several small mistakes here:
Chechen L-39 planes were still unarmed when they were destroyed (Dudaev didn't have enough time to convert them onto ground-attack planes)
This tactical missile on picture is unguided Tochka-U. Pure ballistical. That's why two of them missed Maskhadov HQ and hit the market nearby to this building in 1999 (famous market explosion). Contrary to this case Tochka-U hit target area in 2000 in the center of Argun(?) very precisely killing dozens of insurgents which met on central square of city.
Unidentified person with RPG is from OMON unit (don't remember which)
shuravee
05-26-2004, 10:10 AM
Thanks, Abbyy!
roujio87
05-26-2004, 12:21 PM
good videos on www.*********.com/chechenya.html
RomanS
05-26-2004, 02:01 PM
wtf do you mean GOOD VIDEOS ?
fukin troll
mack pl
05-26-2004, 02:11 PM
good videos on
sorry dude, but you shouldn't post here videos of executions :|
Forum rules :|
delete this **** :|
RomanS
05-26-2004, 02:14 PM
delete the memmber too
mack pl
05-26-2004, 02:16 PM
delete the memmber too
its his second post, maybe he dont know rules exactly, give him another chance ;)
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
05-26-2004, 03:06 PM
Less flaming more photos woot (some of these are outdated and may have been shown here in different threads)
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KASPIYSK, RUSSIAN FEDERATION: Russian soldiers carry the coffin of one of their colleagues killed by Chechen rebel soldiers during a funeral ceremony in the town of Kaspiysk in Dagestan, 18 December 2003. A band of Chechen rebels is on the run after killing nine Russian border guards and temporarily seizing up to a dozen hostages in the volatile neighboring to Chechnya, Russian republic of Dagestan. AFP PHOTO / NEWS TEAM (Photo credit should read -/AFP/***** Images)
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GROZNY, RUSSIA - OCTOBER 6: Chechen market trader Anya Soslanbekova finishes a transaction with a Russian soldier October 6, 2003 in the Chechen capital, Grozny the day after elections confirmed Moscow's choice of Akhmad Kadyrov as president of the Chechen republic. Russian forces are still losing a dozen soldiers a week, although the Kremlin had declared victory in this conflict in March 2000. (Photo by Scott Peterson/***** Images)
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TSENTOROY, RUSSIAN FEDERATION: A Russian special forces soldier stands on attention during the funeral ceremony of the assassinated pro-Russian Chechen leader Akhmad Kadyrov in the village of Tsentoroy, 10 May 2004, where Kadyrov's family is based. Chechens buried their assassinated pro-Kremlin president Akhmad Kadyrov on Monday as Moscow scrambled to figure out a new strategy for winning control of the restless region after losing its main ally there. Some 3,000 people marched through the main street of this village where Kadyrov's family is based in Chechnya under a scorching sun chanting traditional prayers and paying their respects to a man in whom the Kremlin put its trust. AFP PHOTO / MAXIM MARMUR (Photo credit should read MAXIM MARMUR/AFP/***** Images)
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TSENTOROY, RUSSIAN FEDERATION: A Russian army amoured vehicle guards next to a poster of the assassinated Chechen leader Akhmad Kadyrov at a check point in the village of Tsentoroy, 10 May 2004. Chechens buried their assassinated pro-Kremlin president Akhmad Kadyrov on Monday as Moscow scrambled to figure out a new strategy for winning control of the restless region after losing its main ally there. Some 3,000 people marched through the main street of this village where Kadyrov's family is based in Chechnya under a scorching sun chanting traditional prayers and paying their respects to a man in whom the Kremlin put its trust. AFP PHOTO / MAXIM MARMUR (Photo credit should read MAXIM MARMUR/AFP/***** Images)
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TSENTOROY, RUSSIAN FEDERATION: A police officer stands on attention during the funeral ceremony of the assassinated Chechen leader Akhmad Kadyrov in the village of Tsentoroy, 10 May 2004, where Kadyrov's family is based. Chechens buried their assassinated pro-Kremlin president Akhmad Kadyrov on Monday as Moscow scrambled to figure out a new strategy for winning control of the restless region after losing its main ally there. Some 3,000 people marched through the main street of this village where Kadyrov's family is based in Chechnya under a scorching sun chanting traditional prayers and paying their respects to a man in whom the Kremlin put its trust. AFP PHOTO / MAXIM MARMUR (Photo credit should read MAXIM MARMUR/AFP/***** Images)
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TSENTOROY, RUSSIAN FEDERATION: **GO WITH A STORY- RUSSIA-VOTE-CHECHNYA**- Picture taken 30 January 2004, shows soldiers of Chechen President Akhmad Kadyrov forces patrolling a street in Grozny. Armed men are a regular feature in pre-election Chechnya, where the Kremlin insists the situation has "normalized," despite grim living conditions, roadside blasts and widespread kidnappings. AFP PHOTO / STRINGER (Photo credit should read STRINGER/AFP/***** Images)
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GROZNY, RUSSIAN FEDERATION: Russian special police forces officer guards next to a polling station in Grozny, 07 December 2003. Security measures in Chechnya were tightened on Sunday as voters cast ballots to elect a deputy in the Russian parliament two days after a massive suicide blast blamed on Chechen rebels killed dozens near the war-torn republic. Posters could be seen everywhere of Akhmar Zavgayev, who is backed by the pro-Kremlin United Russia party, alongside the Chechen president Akhmad Kadyrov. The slogan "Zavgayev Our Candidate," was spray-painted on buildings and walls. The sign reads: "For A. Zavgayev". AFP PHOTO / VIKTOR DRACHEV (Photo credit should read VIKTOR DRACHEV/AFP/***** Images)
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GROZNY, RUSSIAN FEDERATION: Members of Russia's special police forces guard a polling station in Grozny, 07 December 2003. Security measures in Chechnya were tightened on Sunday as voters cast ballots to elect a deputy in the Russian parliament two days after a massive suicide blast blamed on Chechen rebels killed dozens near the war-torn republic. AFP PHOTO / VIKTOR DRACHEV (Photo credit should read VIKTOR DRACHEV/AFP/***** Images)
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GROZNY, RUSSIA - OCTOBER 6: Russian soldiers patrol in Grozny, Chechnya October 6, 2003, the day after elections confirmed Moscow's choice of Akhmad Kadyrov as president of the Chechen republic. Russian forces are still losing a dozen soldiers a week, though the Kremlin had declared victory in this conflict in March 2000. (Photo by Scott Peterson/***** Images)
EDIT FOR MORE PHOTOS
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GROZNY, RUSSIA - OCTOBER 6: Russian soldiers patrol in Grozny, Chechnya October 6, 2003, the day after elections confirmed Moscow's choice of Akhmad Kadyrov as president of the Chechen republic. Russian forces are still losing a dozen soldiers a week, though the Kremlin had declared victory in this conflict in March 2000. (Photo by Scott Peterson/***** Images)
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GROZNY, RUSSIA - OCTOBER 6: Russian soldiers patrol in Grozny, Chechnya October 6, 2003, the day after elections confirmed Moscow's choice of Akhmad Kadyrov as president of the Chechen republic. Russian forces are still losing a dozen soldiers a week, though the Kremlin had declared victory in this conflict in March 2000. (Photo by Scott Peterson/***** Images)
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Russian soldiers search a car under a poster of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chechen candidate Akhmad Kadyrov in the Chechen capital of Grozny 03 October 2003. Russia's separatist republic of Chechnya will choose a president 05 October 2003, in an election that the Kremlin touts as proof that the four-year war here is over, and which critics dismiss as a farce. An estimated 540,000 registered voters in the war-torn republic will have a choice of seven candidates, with Akhmad Kadyrov, whom Russian President Vladimir Putin appointed to run Chechnya three years ago, expected to win despite tenuous popular support. AFP PHOTO MAXIM MARMUR (Photo credit should read MAXIM MARMUR/AFP/***** Images)
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368621 01: Russian soldiers prepare for a raid against Chechen rebels April 29, 2000 in the mountains near the village of Orekhovo in southern Chechnya. Chechen rebels have increased the number of attacks against Russian bases just outside the regional capital of Grozny. (Photo by Oleg Nikishin/Newsmakers)
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Russian soldiers in the Chechen capital Grozny man a checkpoint on Minutka Square in the center of the city, February 25, 2000. (Photo by Oleg Nikishin)
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A Russian soldier takes time for a cigarette as others move up to the outskirts of Shali, where Chechen forces have occupied part of the town January 11, 2000. (Photo by James Hill/***** Images)
ronin2172
05-26-2004, 04:03 PM
what is the russian military's policy on issuing web gear and unis? Other than the first pic of the funeral (RIP) and the pic of the guys marching in single file, they all seem to be wearing different stuff. Do russian soldiers have more freedom in choice of gear or is it a first come first serve type of thing? Or or r there a lot of different units (ie different ministries) operating together?
roujio87
05-26-2004, 04:12 PM
Sorry for my "good video".In Swizerland jounalists tell russian troops kills kids and womans.
I wanted to say these videos show the reality of Chechnya.
Russian Texan
05-26-2004, 04:20 PM
There are a lot of different units from different departments/ministries operating in Chechnya, all of them have their own uniform policies. Add to that the fact that every branch of the armed forces issues their own type of uniform/camouflage, plus certain units allowed to purchase and use uniforms and gear on their own...
It all amounts to no uniform standartization whatsoever, if you don't like the issued stuff - buy your own in the army store.
Seems like chaos but somehow it all works out.
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
05-26-2004, 04:25 PM
Well there is no camo-standardization in Russia. So generally you get what your issued, for some occassions I think there is exceptions (Inspections / Ceremonies).
In the field they can wear any sorta camoflauge that makes them happy, sometimes you can see pics were every piece of clothing is a different camoflauge pattern.
But heres my favorite russian pattern ;)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/93/tigerbekas.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3171/wierdrussiankamyesh1.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/476/myvestonrussian.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7356/tigerbekas2.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3838/tigerbekas3.jpg
mack pl
05-26-2004, 04:27 PM
Sorry for my "good video".In Swizerland jounalists tell russian troops kills kids and womans.
I wanted to say these videos show the reality of Chechnya.first of all, delete this link man
second thing, check rules-about sick links
regards
RomanS
05-26-2004, 05:19 PM
Sorry for my "good video".In Swizerland jounalists tell russian troops kills kids and womans.
I wanted to say these videos show the reality of Chechnya.
we dont' give a **** what they tell you in Switzerland. Get rid of this terrorist bull**** link.
[AFSOC]
05-26-2004, 08:32 PM
nice pics
OB Kenobi
05-26-2004, 10:20 PM
I think that is the ugliest war in the 1989-2004 period.
From the climatic conditions,to the savage nature of combat evrething is ugly .
Name me a single "pretty" war. War is always ugly and brutal, althougth I can't think of any place worse than Chechnya 1994-2002.
World War 1 was worse. Medieval combat was even worse.
What would you prefer, dying a quick death from a bullet or a bomb, or being mutilated and then dying a slow death on the battlefield surrounded by rotting corpses and scavengers? :lol:
After most battles they'd usually plunder the corpses and the dying anyway, so if you were lucky, some peasant would come by with a shovel and bash your head in to put you out of your misery.
American Patriot
05-26-2004, 10:25 PM
cool vids
Russian Texan
05-27-2004, 12:33 AM
I think that is the ugliest war in the 1989-2004 period.
From the climatic conditions,to the savage nature of combat evrething is ugly .
Name me a single "pretty" war. War is always ugly and brutal, althougth I can't think of any place worse than Chechnya 1994-2002.
World War 1 was worse. Medieval combat was even worse.
What would you prefer, dying a quick death from a bullet or a bomb, or being mutilated and then dying a slow death on the battlefield surrounded by rotting corpses and scavengers? :lol:
After most battles they'd usually plunder the corpses and the dying anyway, so if you were lucky, some peasant would come by with a shovel and bash your head in to put you out of your misery.
I do not recall reading/hearing any stories from WW1 that involved mutilating or beheading prisoners, using woman and children as shields and boby-traping corpses.
Russian Texan
05-27-2004, 12:41 AM
cool vids
Dude, you are suppose to apply clearasil to your face, not sniff it.
Next time you'll wonder why people don't like US or jeer at its casualties, just re-read your posts on this board...
haze99
05-27-2004, 08:03 AM
Have there been any foreign fighters captured or killed with the Chechens? Such as Syrian, Iranian or Bosnian people? Do they have alot of not-Chechen fighters in there ranks?
What is the current situation in the region?
Skullknight
05-27-2004, 10:16 AM
good videos on www.*********.com/chechenya.htmlThanks for the link.
Skullknight
05-27-2004, 10:19 AM
Have there been any foreign fighters captured or killed with the Chechens? Such as Syrian, Iranian or Bosnian people? Do they have alot of not-Chechen fighters in there ranks?
What is the current situation in the region?They have many foreign fighters. Some of their "war heroes" are Saudis that came to fight and the like. However, most of the foreign mujahideen were slaughtered near the beginning of the conflict because they would walk around in huge (and stupid) groups of over one hundred men. Now the fighting is pretty much left up to the guys who won the first Chechen war (Chechens).
intelligenzija
05-27-2004, 10:22 AM
germans were killed in chechnya too (originally turks)
cool vids
Dude, you are suppose to apply clearasil to your face, not sniff it.
Next time you'll wonder why people don't like US or jeer at its casualties, just re-read your posts on this board...
I agree with everyone that the link is sick and anyone who considers it "good" has some serious problems, but I also think that anyone who jeers at casualties of any country is an idiot.
Out.
RomanS
05-27-2004, 03:05 PM
cool vids
Dude, you are suppose to apply clearasil to your face, not sniff it.
Next time you'll wonder why people don't like US or jeer at its casualties, just re-read your posts on this board...
He's not American. He's a reject from USSR, that we call a WANA BE American.
SwissGrenadier
05-27-2004, 03:37 PM
Sorry for my "good video".In Swizerland jounalists tell russian troops kills kids and womans.
I wanted to say these videos show the reality of Chechnya.
yeah that's what they show us...
but what they also show is when chechen terrorists murder kadyrow, when they murder russian soldiers, when they blow up tanks etc
not that the russians think that the swiss media is on the side of the chechens which isn't the case
roujio87
05-28-2004, 01:00 PM
SwissGrenadier wrote:
yeah that's what they show us...
but what they also show is when chechen terrorists murder kadyrow, when they murder russian soldiers, when they blow up tanks etc
not that the russians think that the swiss media is on the side of the chechens which isn't the case
Thank for this precision ;)
Zarathustra
05-28-2004, 01:13 PM
good videos on www.*********.com/chechenya.html
The videos are certainly strong but that is the reallity of the war, chechen rebels are as barbaric as the russian troops...
intelligenzija
05-28-2004, 01:56 PM
I can imagine there are " also good" russian soldiers in chechnya. Soldiers which dont rape etc.
But I cannot imagine there are "good freedom fighters" (not civilians).
Jack Mehoff
05-28-2004, 02:47 PM
cool vids
Dude, you are suppose to apply clearasil to your face, not sniff it.
Next time you'll wonder why people don't like US or jeer at its casualties, just re-read your posts on this board...
maybe you should tell your fellow Ruskie Kingpin that too. He has the habit of posting **** like that.
BTW, I don't think that a "cool" video.
Chechen L-39 planes were still unarmed when they were destroyed (Dudaev didn't have enough time to convert them onto ground-attack planes)
Technically they were jet trainers and had unguided air to ground capability for training purposes... ie gunpods, unguided rocket pods, light bombs.
I can imagine there are " also good" russian soldiers in chechnya.
The "Russian Soldiers" currently there are either spec ops or Interior Ministry troops. Ie for the western layman Spetsnaz and what equates to a combination of American National Guard and border patrol personel.
Amusing that some here think that the Russian soldiers can be so brutal and apparantly rape every chechen woman twice a day yet the recently assasinated Chechen president was a former Rebel. Not only that but plenty of Chechen nationals also help the Russian troops and fight rebels too.
Still It can't last much longer... according to the figures the entire civilian population of Chechenia has been killed about twice over already so the only ones left must just be rebels or pro Russian forces.. :roll:
Abbyy
05-30-2004, 01:47 AM
Chechen L-39 planes were still unarmed when they were destroyed (Dudaev didn't have enough time to convert them onto ground-attack planes)
Technically they were jet trainers and had unguided air to ground capability for training purposes... ie gunpods, unguided rocket pods, light bombs.
I've read that pods wasn't mounted in time they were destroyed.
I've read that pods wasn't mounted in time they were destroyed.
No, they didn't appear to have them fitted when hit, but they had the ability to carry and use such weapons as part of their normal training role.
Ie they had the sighting systems, avionics, and pylon attachment point to be fitted with such things.
SiFiOn
05-31-2004, 04:19 AM
Russians are coming! :)
Unidentifyed person (probably Chechenian terrorist) firing wih grenade laucher.
http://www.analisidifesa.it/immagini_articoli/5562.jpg
I'm almost sure this ain't a LAW, but what is it? Recently I saw a video about Grozny and in that video they also showed a RPG (? can't remember exactly) fired from inside a building. What about the backblast? Whe are trained not to fire an AT-4 (M-136) from inside a building otherwise we would end up outside this building. Any guesses?
It's an RPG-18, looks a lot like a LAW.
http://www.army.gr/html/GR_Army/dieuthinseis/DPZ/_img/rpg-18.jpg
Abbyy
05-31-2004, 05:08 AM
It is RPG-18 "Mukha" ("Fly").
http://www.arms.ru/Guns/grenade/22010698.jpg
http://www.arms.ru/Guns/grenade/22020698.jpg
http://www.arms.ru/Guns/grenade/22030698.jpg
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