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Roger Rabbit
05-25-2004, 11:38 AM
This may sound slightly stupid but in the majority of pictures showing Iraqi insurgents and in some cases Palestinians, Africans etc etc then they have no webbing but are carrying some sort of weapon. My question is where do they carry their ammo and if it is just in their pockets then doesn't this make for very short gunfights as they surely wouldnt be able to carry that much around with them.

CPL Trevoga
05-25-2004, 11:45 AM
This may sound slightly stupid but in the majority of pictures showing Iraqi insurgents and in some cases Palestinians, Africans etc etc then they have no webbing but are carrying some sort of weapon. My question is where do they carry their ammo and if it is just in their pockets then doesn't this make for very short gunfights as they surely wouldnt be able to carry that much around with them.

Excellent question, they don't carry any ammo, because they use hit and run tactics. They fire and then, melt in the crowd dropping or hiding their weapons, instanly becoming civilians. Also they might have a cache near by, where they can ressuply if needed.

Javehn
05-25-2004, 12:00 PM
God give a mans arse in intention that the man shall use that arse . ;)
Carry in consealed . :lol:

Well, some have enough to go outside , fire some 2 magazines that attached together , and return home to do some eating .

shrek
05-25-2004, 01:29 PM
Average number of rounds found on "Taliban" remnants in our part of Afgh? 21 (actually recorded intel) One, only slightly full mag. What's weird about that is that there was a cache of weapons with a million rounds of ammo in every hillside, and these guys didn't have squat. I think it was probably the same story though, they could drop the weapon, pick up a stick and poke a goat and we wouldn't know for ****e who they were.

shrek
05-25-2004, 01:29 PM
Also, we didn't let them keep anything over two mags anyway and they knew that! If we caught them with it we took it!!

5jumpchump
05-25-2004, 01:37 PM
I think they sew bullets into thier turbans and when the going gets tough they unwrap the turban and BAM ! instant belt fed ammo rofl

Roger Rabbit
05-25-2004, 01:54 PM
Ok thanks for the info.

One more question. This limited amount of ammo, does it not make for very short gunfights?

Seraphim
05-25-2004, 01:56 PM
Ok thanks for the info.

One more question. This limited amount of ammo, does it not make for very short gunfights?

Think about your question for five seconds.

5jumpchump
05-25-2004, 01:58 PM
Ok thanks for the info.

One more question. This limited amount of ammo, does it not make for very short gunfights?

No . They have to make the ammo last so they fire one round and go home for lunch . Then they go out and fire one round before dinner . Next morning one round before breakfast . Same thing next day :roll:

Roger Rabbit
05-25-2004, 02:17 PM
I'll ignore the above and re-phrase the question.

If the insurgents carry so little ammo then does this not make it very difficult for them to fight protracted gunfights or is it known for the insurgents to re-arm at ammo caches and then rejoin the fighting?

Argyll
05-25-2004, 02:21 PM
I'll ignore the above and re-phrase the question.

If the insurgents carry so little ammo then does this not make it very difficult for them to fight protracted gunfights or is it known for the insurgents to re-arm at ammo caches and then rejoin the fighting?

Ask yourself why they stayed and faced upto a Scottish bayonet charge as well?,nowhere to go and they too were low in Ammo!

shrek
05-25-2004, 02:30 PM
Most engagements that last over a few minutes involve a group of enemy that, between them, have enough ammo to keep it up a while. In most cases (In AFGH) the engagements were over before they began!! A few shots from a turd and he was gone over the hill or back into the population. And people still wonder why innocents get killed all the time!

Sayeret
05-25-2004, 02:32 PM
Roger Rabbit wrote:


If the insurgents carry so little ammo then does this not make it very difficult for them to fight protracted gunfights or is it known for the insurgents to re-arm at ammo caches and then rejoin the fighting?

In most cases the insurgents wouldn't want a protracted gunfight because then the people they are fighting can get more organized and more time for reinforcements to come. So to answer your question most of the time insurgents wouldn't want extended firefights.

American Patriot
05-25-2004, 02:40 PM
They're just basically there to fire off a couple of rounds, get hit, and go to heaven.

Denat
05-25-2004, 03:53 PM
And my question is how limited amount of ammo have the Palestinians? Probably not limited at all because they are shoting out full mags in the air on every ****ing demonstration I've ever seen in TV. And the next question is, who pays for that?

mack pl
05-25-2004, 04:06 PM
And my question is how limited amount of ammo have the Palestinians? Probably not limited at all because they are shoting out full mags in the air on every f*** demonstration I've ever seen in TV. And the next question is, who pays for that?

Ammo isnt very expensive I guess.

Seraphim
05-25-2004, 04:07 PM
And my question is how limited amount of ammo have the Palestinians? Probably not limited at all because they are shoting out full mags in the air on every f*** demonstration I've ever seen in TV. And the next question is, who pays for that?

Ammo isnt very expensive I guess.

It adds up.
Im guessing they get their ammo from Egypt.

American Patriot
05-25-2004, 04:09 PM
Just a guess but syria, jordan, egypt, lebanon and Arafat flips the bill ;)

SerbPVO
05-25-2004, 04:10 PM
A better question is...who pays for Israeli weapons & ammo?

mack pl
05-25-2004, 04:13 PM
A better question is...who pays for Israeli weapons & ammo?Israelis(taxes) and USA( its not a secret that USA give money to Israel).

Seraphim
05-25-2004, 04:13 PM
A better question is...who pays for Israeli weapons & ammo?

That aint no question...we all know the answers to that.

SerbPVO
05-25-2004, 04:17 PM
Exactly.

So isn't it only logical & fair that Palestinians have their supporters and financial backers, as well?

SerbPVO
05-25-2004, 04:18 PM
My point is...its stupid to ask where either the Palestinians or Israelis get their weapons.

Seraphim
05-25-2004, 04:18 PM
Exactly.

So isn't it only logical & fair that Palestinians have their supporters and financial backers, as well?

I didnt say it was unfair. It was a question asked and we replied.

Javehn
05-25-2004, 04:31 PM
Exactly.

So isn't it only logical & fair that Palestinians have their supporters and financial backers, as well?

We gave them back in the 90's . And now we regret this for every single day .

Seraphim
05-25-2004, 04:32 PM
Exactly.

So isn't it only logical & fair that Palestinians have their supporters and financial backers, as well?

We gave them back in the 90's . And now we regret this for every single day .

Gave what back?

Denat
05-25-2004, 04:34 PM
My point is...its stupid to ask where either the Palestinians or Israelis get their weapons.
Did I ever asked about it or judged if that's fair or not? I was just curious why are they loosing their ammo shoting out full mags in the air?
BTW I wanted to know how rich they're to do this. Never asked where.

And my question is how limited amount of ammo have the Palestinians? Probably not limited at all because they are shoting out full mags in the air on every f*** demonstration I've ever seen in TV. And the next question is, who pays for that?

Javehn
05-25-2004, 04:36 PM
Exactly.

So isn't it only logical & fair that Palestinians have their supporters and financial backers, as well?

We gave them back in the 90's . And now we regret this for every single day .

Gave what back?

Ooops , i am sorry .. I am on influence of some beers now .
I mean gave them .

I had here some thread about Palestinian armory , but i guess no one was interested on it .

admar2
05-25-2004, 04:38 PM
I would suspect that they don't carry alot of ammo because they don't need to for their tactics. As has been stated previously, it's pretty easy to throw down your weapon and blend into any crowd. however if they were decked out with ammo and bells and whistles like a real soldier, it would be alot harder to melt away.

they use hit and run tactics because in any sustained fight with lotsa rounds fired, they lose bigtime.

cchccrowder
05-25-2004, 04:39 PM
many insurgents, taliban, and even northern alliance carry there ammo in chinese chest rigs or other countries forms of them. Taliban and northern alliance seem to carry eastern bloc pouches and chest rigs from china or other countries as well.
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1130/insturgent.jpg
iraqi insurgent

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8387/aot_getImage.jpg
iraqi insurgent

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6117/afghanweapons.jpg
northern alliance

many as others have said they probably carry the extra ammo in their vests
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7246/northernalliance10.jpg

or in their pockets
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3702/nothernalliance12.jpg

just my guess!

-cchccrowder

Mr Gently Benevolent
05-25-2004, 04:46 PM
The rig the guy on the left is wearing can anyone ID it, is it a local manufactured item or import.
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8387/aot_getImage.jpg

Roger Rabbit
05-25-2004, 04:56 PM
OK thanks for the info.