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Ordie
03-02-2008, 05:20 AM
I had an interview with one of the high tech firms not to long ago. The person who interviewed me gloated that he wanted to give free laptops to 3rd world countries to bridge the digital divide.

I said good, why don't you start by driving down the freeway for two exits into East Palo Alto and start giving them away. He looked at me and said, Isn't that place dangerous?





SAVING THE MIDDLE CLASS


Sunday, March 2, 2008
Silicon Valley is still the place to be if you're an entrepreneur with a big dream. But as the latest Silicon Valley index shows, it's a difficult place for everyone else. If that difficulty continues, expect it to have tremendous - and ominous - effects on the region's ability to provide services for its residents, to assimilate its new immigrants, and to retain its children.
The 2008 index reports that Silicon Valley boasts a robust share of high-income (more than $80,000/year) jobs - 27 percent of the total. That's just one figure proving that the region has bounced back from the dot-com bust with its reputation intact. Despite fierce competition from international cities and regions who would love to best the valley's reputation as the top hub for the next big things, the valley is still on top thanks to its highly educated workforce (44 percent of residents have at least a four-year college degree, compared with 27 percent nationally) and its openness to innovation (the region has already captured 21 percent of the nation's clean-tech venture funding).
That's superb news for valley businesses and big spenders, but it doesn't appear that much of that good fortune has trickled down to everyone else. The valley's largest concentration of jobs is at the mid-wage level - jobs that pay between $30,000 and $80,000 - and those jobs are eroding. Mid-wage jobs totaled 52 percent of total jobs in 2002 and fell to 46 percent by 2006. Taking their place are lower-wage jobs, which saw a five-point spike during the same period.
What will happen as the valley becomes a home for only the wealthy and the poor? We've already experienced some of the results. Children who grew up here have been leaving - forced to move to where they can buy homes. The businesses that have been begging the federal government for an expanded H1-B visa program so that they can bring in Ph.D.s from other countries - because the lower-income people who live here have to work and can't afford to get that kind of education.
These problems will only get worse as the middle class erodes. In addition, we'll face new problems. How does the valley expect to assimilate its immigrants - nearly half of the valley's population speaks a language other than English in the home - if there's no middle rung for the second generation to grab? How does the valley expect to maintain its position as an educational powerhouse if assistant and adjunct professors - much less regular comprehensive schoolteachers - can't afford to live here? What will happen when there are no electricians left to wire the buildings, no secretaries to keep offices running smoothly, and no police officers who are willing to make a two-hour commute?
How can we reverse this trend? Bay Area residents could support smarter growth. That means encouraging higher-density housing on the few open lots that we have available. It means breaking down barriers that make it so difficult - and expensive - for developers to build in urban areas.
"If there was just one thing that would make a difference, it would be having a larger stock of housing at affordable price points in the Bay Area," said Sean Randolph, president of the Bay Area Council Economic Institute. "But the main reason it hasn't happened is because a lot of communities don't want to see growth."
Or, a less polite way of saying it: the Bay Area is full of not-in-my-backyard attitudes that hurt the region in the long run.
There are other things that have to happen: The state has to make vocational education and job retraining programs a priority. The state and local governments need to rethink some of their more onerous business regulations. We need to restructure our educational system so that it's preparing our children for the careers that are available here.
Housing, job creation, education. There are no mysteries about the solutions, and no shortage of excuses, especially in tight budget times. What is lacking, all too often, is the political will to act.

Source:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/03/02/ING9V9P9I.DTL&type=printable

0rphie
03-02-2008, 08:03 AM
Seriously, this is not unique to San Fransisco Bay Area. move across the country to Boston Bay Area and you will see pretty much the same picture. Others call it globalization. I am not sure this trend is going to reverse any time soon.

SoCalEMT
03-02-2008, 01:49 PM
Cambridge is as just as bad as the Bay Area. A good friend of mine had a cakewalk of a time getting a grant from Big Daddy Harvard to install low-cost internet accessibility in some El Salvadoran schools, but was unable to get a dime to provide similar services to a charter school right there in Cambridge. It is a crying shame that this charter school, with a student body composed of over 95% black children from the city of Cambridge, itself, was unable to get funds disbursed for the project. Literally in the shadow of the greatest academic institution in the country. Sad.

Thanks,
CoCalEMT

RomanS
03-02-2008, 02:18 PM
You just have to have a good job, and you are good to go here.

I love it here

Bongopete
03-02-2008, 10:27 PM
Hey Roman, are you inviting us over to work?:)

Bongopete
03-02-2008, 10:28 PM
Seriously Roman, I check out your string on Russian military, you post some great pics man! Keep up the excellent work!

Firetxmi
03-02-2008, 10:42 PM
I had an interview with one of the high tech firms not to long ago. The person who interviewed me gloated that he wanted to give free laptops to 3rd world countries to bridge the digital divide.

I said good, why don't you start by driving down the freeway for two exits into East Palo Alto and start giving them away. He looked at me and said, Isn't that place dangerous?


Sickening, absolutely sickening!

Eokboy
03-03-2008, 02:27 AM
What will happen when there are no electricians left to wire the buildings, no secretaries to keep offices running smoothly, and no police officers who are willing to make a two-hour commute?

But we have robots that do this kind of work.

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Shrapp
03-04-2008, 02:12 AM
you have to admit that east Palo Alto has improved...you still won't catch my cracker ass anywhere near that place outside my car

I can't think of a name
03-04-2008, 02:30 AM
if there's no middle rung for the second generation to grab? How does the valley expect to maintain its position as an educational powerhouse if assistant and adjunct professors - much less regular comprehensive schoolteachers - can't afford to live here? What will happen when there are no electricians left to wire the buildings, no secretaries to keep offices running smoothly, and no police officers who are willing to make a two-hour commute?uhhhh

Demand will go up for them creating more incentives for people to do those jobs and make it work.

This is a classic left leaning article on the "middle-class". It is left leaning because it is begging for the GOVERNMENT to fix it. (You know whats next "HEY LETS TAX THOSE RICH COMPANIES", and then just hand it out to people who did not earn that cash. )

The growing "poor" in their data sample most likely are immigrants. No one in the Valley is poor who was formally well off or "middle-class"

Violet Fashion by Mindy
03-04-2008, 04:17 AM
uhhhh

Demand will go up for them creating more incentives for people to do those jobs and make it work.

This is a classic left leaning article on the "middle-class". It is left leaning because it is begging for the GOVERNMENT to fix it. (You know whats next "HEY LETS TAX THOSE RICH COMPANIES", and then just hand it out to people who did not earn that cash. )

The growing "poor" in their data sample most likely are immigrants. No one in the Valley is poor who was formally well off or "middle-class"

People who are earning less then 50k in Australia. The true dinky die Aussie battle is doing it ****ing real hard. Rents are through the roof, it's becoming increasingly more difficult to find work close to where rents/house prices are cheap enough for a person to live.

Mark my words. We are entering a new era of a quasi feudalship where the rich are increasingly taking advantage at the expense of the poor and the poor and working class are being taken for a ride.

If nothing is done we will see a major crisis on our hands. I'm talking food riots, massive industrial action and possibly major acts of violence.

It's all fine and good to say "get a better education" or "get more skills" but all this is going to do is shift wages down for these qualifications, make it near impossible for the average joe to get meaningful employment since it will require a degree in astro=physics to get a job as a shelf stacker at a Wal-Mart.

If you think the war on terror is the biggest challenge the west faces think again. I see nothing but chaos if things keep going the way they are going.

Calanen
03-04-2008, 04:39 AM
Neofeudalism. Education means jack - its what is in demand that determines wages, not education. Loads of educated people doing not a lot - because they are demanding tradespeople.

The middle class is really under strain. Cant pay the rent. Cant own a home. No hope, and nothing to look forward to.

Lucky308
03-04-2008, 09:40 AM
I had an interview with one of the high tech firms not to long ago. The person who interviewed me gloated that he wanted to give free laptops to 3rd world countries to bridge the digital divide.

I said good, why don't you start by driving down the freeway for two exits into East Palo Alto and start giving them away. He looked at me and said, Isn't that place dangerous?


Wont do any good, as they'd get stolen. Shrapp probably knows this. Hell, even palo alto is having issues. Police are spending entire shifts reporting to calls because the residents are suspiscious of men breaking into their garages (with sophisticated technology, and then after not finding anything worthy, leaving pineapple candy on their garage doorstep that leads into their house as a threat)...roflThat was one hell of a day

Oh palo alto.

I can't think of a name
03-04-2008, 11:50 AM
People who are earning less then 50k in Australia. The true dinky die Aussie battle is doing it ****ing real hard. Rents are through the roof, it's becoming increasingly more difficult to find work close to where rents/house prices are cheap enough for a person to live.

Mark my words. We are entering a new era of a quasi feudalship where the rich are increasingly taking advantage at the expense of the poor and the poor and working class are being taken for a ride.

If nothing is done we will see a major crisis on our hands. I'm talking food riots, massive industrial action and possibly major acts of violence.

It's all fine and good to say "get a better education" or "get more skills" but all this is going to do is shift wages down for these qualifications, make it near impossible for the average joe to get meaningful employment since it will require a degree in astro=physics to get a job as a shelf stacker at a Wal-Mart.

If you think the war on terror is the biggest challenge the west faces think again. I see nothing but chaos if things keep going the way they are going.

Yeah right. The reason it will get harder for college educated to get jobs is if we keep punching out more liberal arts majors versus engineers and other professional majors.