The Day After Tomorrow

[Seraphim]

Whos going to see this? I think it looks good...hopefully it will do better than Troy at the box offices.

[Herrmannek]

I gonna to p2p this :)

[Marmot1]

I gonna to p2p this :)

PIRATE!!! p-) :bash:

[Seraphim]

Seems like most people from Europe download movies instead of go out to see them. Or Im just hanging out with different people.

[Fintin]

yeah...probly wont see it

[Wilco]

Just the fact that there are Tornados in L.A. makes me want to see it. I like the "what if" movies.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

It's funny how in these disaster flicks, the catastrophes only happen to well known landmarks. Oh no! The Hollywood sign! The Statue of Liberty! The Eiffel Tower! It's as if nature itself hates all landmarks! Meanwhile, folks in fly-over country sit quietly, shucking their corn.

Here's a disaster movie for you; people forget how to grow and/or prepare their own food. Then they move into overcrowded population centers. Aliens invade, and defeat mankind by simply offering better prices to farmers on wheat, corn, cattle, and poultry...plus free vacations to Xylon62 (the fabled thong planet)

[Seraphim]

We all know mother nature hate trailer parks.

[shrek]

I've read that it is a disaster of a disastermovie, has no plot and basically sucks. The media thinks it's gonna flop!!

[Seraphim]

I've read that it is a disaster of a disastermovie, has no plot and basically sucks. The media thinks it's gonna flop!!

So far its 80% on the ratings.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/TheDayAfterTomorrow-1132625/

[Trigger]

If I recall, 'The Day After Tomorrow' is also the title of a Robert A. Heinlein novel. I haven't read it, but does anyone know if it's based on his book?

Hopefully it will at least bear some resemblance, unlike 'Star**** Troopers'.

[Roger Rabbit]

Seems like most people from Europe download movies instead of go out to see them. Or Im just hanging out with different people.

It would cost me £6.50 to see a film(much cheaper when i am at uni) and seeing as i can go to the pub and get nearly 3 pints for that price and then make up my own film in my head then.......*mindless alcoholic ramblings*

[Seraphim]

If I recall, 'The Day After Tomorrow' is also the title of a Robert A. Heinlein novel. I haven't read it, but does anyone know if it's based on his book?

Hopefully it will at least bear some resemblance, unlike 'Star**** Troopers'.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1567231586/ref=lpr_g_1/104-6240145-3507950?v=glance&s=books

[Trigger]

hmm.
Upon closer inspection:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0743489063/ref=pd_sim_books_1/103-3177620-2370249?v=glance&s=books

[Seoulstriker]

If I recall, Algore exalts this movie and hopes it's a wakeup call for global warming. Happens every 10,000 years? That's kinda close to reality and geological history. If you check out the Vostok ice cores, you'll see that every 100,000 years there's a massive change in the global climate. It is so systematic it's kind of sickening. It's like a massive clock.

[Seraphim]

If I recall, Algore exalts this movie and hopes it's a wakeup call for global warming. Happens every 10,000 years? That's kinda close to reality and geological history. If you check out the Vostok ice cores, you'll see that every 100,000 years there's a massive change in the global climate. It is so systematic it's kind of sickening. It's like a massive clock.

Dont worry, god wouldnt let anything bad happen to us.

[Haiw]

If I recall, Algore exalts this movie and hopes it's a wakeup call for global warming. Happens every 10,000 years? That's kinda close to reality and geological history. If you check out the Vostok ice cores, you'll see that every 100,000 years there's a massive change in the global climate. It is so systematic it's kind of sickening. It's like a massive clock.

Dont worry, god wouldnt let anything bad happen to us.
Go and tell that in any random African country where the population suffers from starvation...

[Moledet]

I gonna watch it today at 19:30 (GMT+3). I realy hope that it won't be boring like Troy was.

[big_les]

If I recall, Algore exalts this movie and hopes it's a wakeup call for global warming. Happens every 10,000 years? That's kinda close to reality and geological history. If you check out the Vostok ice cores, you'll see that every 100,000 years there's a massive change in the global climate. It is so systematic it's kind of sickening. It's like a massive clock.

Dont worry, god wouldnt let anything bad happen to us.

rofl Amen to that rofl

[Ria]

If I recall, Algore exalts this movie and hopes it's a wakeup call for global warming. Happens every 10,000 years? That's kinda close to reality and geological history. If you check out the Vostok ice cores, you'll see that every 100,000 years there's a massive change in the global climate. It is so systematic it's kind of sickening. It's like a massive clock.

There was an interesting article in Time talking about that...did you read it Seoul?

[Seoulstriker]

Ria, are you talking about the Newsweek article (https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/coolingworld.pdf) (.PDF)? :P Could you summarize the article you are talking about? I don't really need to read these articles because I take classes dedicated to these things. Is it the Time article where the cover is an egg on a pan?

[California Joe]

2Sheds is funny. I'm taking a vacation to Xylon62.

[flickme]

Im really lookin forward to this movie. Im gonna see it as soon as possible. It comes out this Friday right? Check out the web site, its pretty cool.

[Ria]

Ria, are you talking about the Newsweek article (https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/coolingworld.pdf) (.PDF)? :P Could you summarize the article you are talking about? I don't really need to read these articles because I take classes dedicated to these things. Is it the Time article where the cover is an egg on a pan?

Nope, it's Time and Bush is on the cover. I figured you had thought about it on your own though. There's also a lot of talk about how it may be "politically useful".

I scanned the article, if you're interested :) :
http://www.stlhosting.com/upload/time_1.jpg
http://www.stlhosting.com/upload/time2.jpg

Can't wait to see it :)

[EvanL]

Ria, are you talking about the Newsweek article (https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/coolingworld.pdf) (.PDF)? :P Could you summarize the article you are talking about? I don't really need to read these articles because I take classes dedicated to these things. Is it the Time article where the cover is an egg on a pan?

Nope, it's Time and Bush is on the cover. I figured you had thought about it on your own though. There's also a lot of talk about how it may be "politically useful".

I scanned the article, if you're interested :) :
http://www.stlhosting.com/upload/time_1.jpg
http://www.stlhosting.com/upload/time2.jpg

Can't wait to see it :)
So its a date then ;)

[gaz]

I tend to adoid the big summer blockbuster/event movies because for the most part they suck dirty arse water.

[TRACER_BULLET]

plus free vacations to Xylon62 (the fabled thong planet)

rofl LOL! I'm sold ... Joe where do we cash in on our free vacation



Anyways... All I know is that when I saw those scenes of cities buried in snow. I realized it'd take snowboarding to a new level woot ... I just need to stockpile gas & snowmobile parts ... and well buy a snowmobile
p-)

[Seoulstriker]

Ria, are you talking about the Newsweek article (https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/coolingworld.pdf) (.PDF)? :P Could you summarize the article you are talking about? I don't really need to read these articles because I take classes dedicated to these things. Is it the Time article where the cover is an egg on a pan?

Nope, it's Time and Bush is on the cover. I figured you had thought about it on your own though. There's also a lot of talk about how it may be "politically useful".

I scanned the article, if you're interested :) :
http://www.stlhosting.com/upload/time_1.jpg
http://www.stlhosting.com/upload/time2.jpg

Can't wait to see it :)

Ahhh, haven't seen that article. (And the links don't work. :( )


Evidence for man-influenced global warming is sorely lacking. They need to use films such as "the day after tomorrow" to panic people into believing in it.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Disaster movies are f*cking ****.

[California Joe]

If they don't have vampires I'm not interested.

[Nawlins]

I'm interested in seeing it, for the cool special effects, if nothing else. And no, it has absolutely nothing to do with Heinlein's book... they just have the same title (stupid in my opinion, but whatever).

[molly747]

I'm tired of natural disaster movies. Like, suddenly we wake up and *gasp* "Where did the polar ice caps go? Did you see them last?"

Armageddon (1998)
Avalanche (2004)
Dante's Peak (1997)
Deep Impact (1998)
Perfect Storm, The (2000)
Volcano (1997)
Volcano (2004)
Volcano: Fire on the Mountain (1997)

[Ria]

Ahhh, haven't seen that article. (And the links don't work. :( )


Evidence for man-influenced global warming is sorely lacking. They need to use films such as "the day after tomorrow" to panic people into believing in it.

Aw :( That's weird, they work for me.

The interesting thing about the article is that it not only talked about the natural effects but the political ones too, as I said earlier. Apparently it's ruffling some feathers in both political parties.

From the article:
"But the present Administration, with its much documented reluctance as a legitimate environmental concern, had already given the issue a political charge, and Tomorrow was a hot potato weeks before its release. In April an urgent internal memo from NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center was leaked to the New York Times: it stated, "No one from NASA is to do interviews or otherwise comment on anything having to do with" the movie. (The gag order has since been rescinded.) At a press conference organized last weel by the activist group MoveOn.org, Gore poked holes in the movie's science but urged people to see it anyway. "The Bush Admin. is in some ways even more fictional than the movie in trying to convince people that there is no real problem, no degree of certainty from scientists about the issue." MoveOn.org is recruiting volunteers to hand out flyers on global warming outside movie theaters, and it's planning a press event featuring Gore and Franken to coincide with the premiere on May 24...Is this environmentalism's answer to The Passion of the Christ?"

"Tomorrow may be politically useful and financially profitable, but is there good science under all that? The answer is no - and also yes. Global warming in some scenarios could lead to a long-term cooling, but nothing so dramatic as this, and certainly not at Hollywood speed..." (of course)

"And yet. The overwhelming consensus among scientists is that global warming is real and the long-term consequences could be disastrous even by Hollywood standards. Global temps. are expected to rise as much as 10 degrees F by the year 2100. Rising temps. could melt the ice caps, which would raise the sea level globally, swamping coastal cities like New York. Droughts would follow in some places, torrential rains in others, devastating agriculture..."

A small side article also reveals that the amount of sunlight reaching the earth has decreased and is continuing to do so. Interesting yet scary stuff...

[budanski]

Oh crap Seoulstriker, I hope you're not buying into this whole Global Warming sh*t. C'mon, this is the same people that made ID4. :roll: The movie makes as much sense as trying to interface a mac laptop with an alien spaceship.

The Earth has only increased 1 degree from the last ice age yet life expectancy has tripled, crop yield has quadrupled, does anyone expect global warming had an affect on this? No. If it were that bad, would everyone be willing to go back to what it used to be?


'Day After Tomorrow': A lot of hot air
USA Today (http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=USATODAY.com+-+%27Day+After+Tomorrow%27%3A+A+lot+of+hot+air&expire=&urlID=10526977&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fnews%2Fopinion%2Feditorials%2F2004-05-24-michaels_x.htm&partnerI)
By Patrick J. Michaels

As a scientist, I bristle when lies dressed up as "science" are used to influence political discourse. The latest example is the global-warming disaster flick, The Day After Tomorrow.

This film is propaganda designed to shift the policy of this nation on climate change. At least that's what I take from producer Mark Gordon's comment that "part of the reason we made this movie" was to "raise consciousness about the environment."

Fox spokesman Jeffrey Godsick says, "The real power of the movie is to raise consciousness on the issue of (global warming)."

'Nuff said.

Oh, the plot. Global warming causes the Gulf Stream to shut down. This current normally brings tropical warmth northward and makes Europe much more comfortable than it should be at its northerly latitude. The heat stays stuck in the tropics, the polar regions get colder, and the atmosphere suddenly flips over in a "superstorm." The frigid stratosphere trades places with our habitable troposphere, and in a matter of days, an ice age ensues. Temperatures drop 100 degrees an hour in Canada. Hurricanes ravage Belfast. Folks in Japan are clobbered by bowling-ball-size hailstones. If we had only listened to concerned scientists and stopped global warming when we could.

Each one of these phenomena is physically impossible.

Start with the Gulf Stream. Carl Wunsch, a professor of physical oceanography at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, knows more about ocean currents than most anyone. He thinks the nonsense in The Day After Tomorrow detracts from the seriousness of the global-warming issue. So he recently wrote in the prestigious science journal Nature that the scenario depicted in the movie requires one to "turn off the wind system, or to stop the Earth's rotation, or both."

The stratosphere will become the troposphere when all three laws of thermodynamics are repealed. Hailstones can't reach bowling-ball size because their growth is limited by gravity. Hurricanes can't hit Belfast because the intervening island of Ireland would destroy them.

How do I know so much about a movie that isn't out yet? I've seen the promos, and I've read and reviewed the book upon which it is based, The Coming Global Superstorm by Art Bell and Whitley Strieber. In Strieber's previous work, Communion, he explained that he was told of the Earth's upcoming apocalypse by aliens. And how this knowledge was communicated is much more the purview of an adult Web site than a family newspaper. What's on the movie's Web site is worse — nothing but out-and-out distortion.

It also insists that what is depicted on the screen has already started.

"Did you know," says the site, that there were more tornadoes recorded in May 2003 than in any other month?

I looked up federal tornado statistics, and indeed they're going up, and there was a peak in May 2003. Then I determined the number of radar stations and their type. When our first radar-tracking network was established in the 1960s and '70s, the number of tornadoes rose proportionally, then leveled off until the new Doppler radars came online in 1988. It took a decade to put this system in place, and the number of reported tornadoes went up accordingly.

Then I plotted the number of severe tornadoes. If anything, it's going down. So the flashy Doppler radars are merely detecting more weak storms that cause little, if any, damage.

The Web site also implies that global warming is making hurricanes worse. Christopher Landsea, the world's most aptly named hurricane scientist, has studied the maximum winds in these storms as measured by aircraft and finds a significant decline.

Global warming? Some scientists think climate change strengthens El Niño, the large atmospheric oscillation responsible for a variety of weather — both good and bad. El Niños are known to rip apart hurricanes. So it's more likely that climate change is weakening these storms than enhancing them.

Will Godsick and Gordon get their way? They're sure being aided and abetted by MoveOn.org, the liberal advocacy group and billionaire George Soros' policy toy. They've got Al Gore front and center, plumping the film. They've got their Web site using the movie to drum up support for legislation by Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., to reduce carbon-dioxide emissions, which only failed by 12 votes last fall. There's a huge drought out West, which a New York Times editorial blamed on global warming. The issue is hot enough to influence votes out there.

Remember that humans have slightly warmed the planet some in recent decades, but the correlation between Western drought and warming is zero.

Far be it from me to criticize anyone's freedom of expression. But remember that propaganda can have consequences. McCain's and Lieberman's measure mimics the United Nations' infamous Kyoto Protocol on global warming, which many scientists know will do nothing measurable about planetary temperature within the policy-relevant future. But it will cost money.

This isn't Hollywood's first attempt to scare people into its way of thinking. How about Jane Fonda in the 1979 anti-nuclear-power flick, The China Syndrome?

Twelve days after its release, the accident at Three Mile Island occurred. Despite the fact that it released only tiny amounts of radiation, the politics of that hysteria effectively killed any new nuclear plant.

Analogize the Western drought to Three Mile Island, and you get the idea.

Or how about the 1983 movie The Day After, whose purpose was to strengthen the nuclear-freeze movement. It failed.

The Day After Tomorrow is only one more day than The Day After, and it deserves the same fate. Lies cloaked as science should never determine how we live our lives.

Patrick J. Michaels is senior fellow in environmental studies at the Cato Institute and author of the upcoming book, Meltdown: The Predictable Distortion of Global Warming by Scientists, Politicians and the Media.

[Herrmannek]

I want post nuclear war movies...More like "Threads" than "Mad Max" :)

I want: shelters, mushrooms, civil defense in those flat helmets, hard radiation and fallout...and ****ing good realism not only in Kabooms* but also in plot, mediacla cases, problems eventual survivors will meet etc...

[Mark Sman]

I want post nuclear war movies

You should read Heinlein's "The Day After Tommorrow" then. Original title was 6th Column and I think it might be out of print.

MouchOn.org is such BS.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

The waves crashing into NY are sort of fake looking and I am quite sure the maximum theoretical wind driven wave height is 190 ft so far the effects I have seen don't impress me though I will rent it when it hits the stores. The average wave height off Cornwall has increased in the last 25 years. :)

[Fargin]

Bro and I are gonna go check it out on sunday.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

I want post nuclear war movies...More like "Threads" than "Mad Max" :)

I want: shelters, mushrooms, civil defense in those flat helmets, hard radiation and fallout...and f*** good realism not only in Kabooms* but also in plot, mediacla cases, problems eventual survivors will meet etc...

Oh yeah, you can't beat a good post-apocalypse movie. There were lots of 'em (good and bad) during the cold war. Remember The Omega Man, of course, Planet of the Apes, Logan's Run, Escape from New York, Soylent Green etc. But this natural disaster stuff doesn't do it for me. Climate change? Put on a friggin coat. Coats have no effect on a gajillion pounds of overpressure, insane zombies, or a killer virus.

[Seoulstriker]

Oh crap Seoulstriker, I hope you're not buying into this whole Global Warming sh*t. C'mon, this is the same people that made ID4. :roll: The movie makes as much sense as trying to interface a mac laptop with an alien spaceship.


Of course I don't believe that crap! :D As I said before, there is practically no evidence for it. The only things these losers can show me are the data from Mauna Loa and MBH98. :lol:

Thanks for the article.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

The movie makes as much sense as trying to interface a mac laptop with an alien spaceship.
Your telling this can't be done, nah no way I am gonna believe you on this one. Now I know your telling fibs.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

The movie makes as much sense as trying to interface a mac laptop with an alien spaceship.
Your telling this can't be done, nah no way I am gonna believe you on this one. Now I know your telling fibs.

That's pretty funny. Well, as we all know, RS-422 is the inter-galactic serial port protocol. I mean, how you gonna interface into a TalΏΛ-45 docking port with IBM-PC compliant hardware? Aliens are totally pimped out with Macs.

[Haiw]

I always thought Mac WAS alien.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Aliens are totally pimped out with Macs.
Apple have a pretty big following in the rest of the Galaxy all thanks to their targeted advertising. :)
http://www.macdesktops.com/images/640x1024/AlienGradient640x1024.jpg

[FallenAngel]

I want post nuclear war movies...More like "Threads" than "Mad Max" :)

I want: shelters, mushrooms, civil defense in those flat helmets, hard radiation and fallout...and f*** good realism not only in Kabooms* but also in plot, mediacla cases, problems eventual survivors will meet etc...

Tank Girl? :lol:

[Midtown]

p-) HARRRRRRR