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Ordie
03-11-2008, 03:39 AM
March 11, 2008

Workers Sue Gulf Coast Company That Imported Them

By ADAM NOSSITER (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/n/adam_nossiter/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
NEW ORLEANS — A group of 500 foreign welders and pipefitters brought in to work at Gulf Coast oil rig yards after Hurricane Katrina (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/h/hurricane_katrina/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) said Monday that they had sued their employer, claiming they were lured with false promises of permanent-resident status, forced to live in inhumane conditions and then threatened when they protested.
The workers were recruited in India and the United Arab Emirates and brought in late 2006 and early 2007 under the government’s temporary guest worker program. They worked at Signal International, an oil-rig repair and construction company with yards in Pascagoula, Miss., about 85 miles east of here, and in Orange, Tex., about 100 miles east of Houston.
The company said it had brought them in to supplement a labor force depleted by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.
At a rally here Monday, workers and their lawyers said they had given up life savings, sold family jewelry and paid up to $20,000 in immigration (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/i/immigration_and_refugees/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) and travel fees after being assured that the company would help them to become permanent residents of the United States.
In a statement, the company called the workers’ charges “baseless and unfounded” and said it had spent “over $7 million constructing state-of-the-art housing complexes” for the workers. The company said that the “vast majority of the workers” recruited had been satisfied with their conditions and that the workers were being paid “in excess” of prevailing rates and in full compliance with the law.
Workers and their advocates disputed those assertions. Ignorant of American immigration law, advocates said, the workers were unaware that they had been brought in only temporarily.
“They didn’t know they were guest workers,” said Stephen Boykewich of the New Orleans Workers’ Center for Racial Justice. “They thought they were getting permanent status.”
The green cards enabling residency never materialized, according to the lawsuit, and the workers were forced to live in overcrowded guarded “bunkhouses” at Signal International, with inadequate toilets and unhygienic kitchens that frequently made them ill.
The class-action lawsuit was filed by the Southern Poverty Law Center of Montgomery, Ala., among other groups.
The workers’ assertions are the latest in a series of complaints about exploitation of foreign laborers on the Gulf Coast after Hurricane Katrina.
Previous complaints have involved Hispanic hotel and construction workers and farm laborers and have centered on low pay and harsh working conditions.
In the summer of 2006, Hispanic hotel workers sued a prominent New Orleans developer over inadequate pay, and last month, fruit pickers walked off the job in a parish north of here over exploitative conditions.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has also sued on behalf of immigrant workers involved in the reconstruction and cleanup of New Orleans after the storm. It maintains that immigrants brought in under the guest worker program are “systematically exploited and abused,” all over the country.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/us/11workers.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&ref=us&pagewanted=print

Bongopete
03-11-2008, 10:47 AM
Are you telling me that there werent welders and pipefitters available in the US for these jobs??? I find this so hard to believe that in these economic times that there werent existing American workers available.
Or was it that the immigrants were able to be hired at much cheaper rates?

packetloss
03-11-2008, 11:02 AM
Are you telling me that there werent welders and pipefitters available in the US for these jobs???

Yes, exactly. Have you not heard of the larger and larger skilled labor deficiency? Simply googling 'welder shortage' will fill you in - There is not only a world wide shortage of (especially) welders and other skilled labour - but in north america its especially a problem. Doubly so trying to get people to move to an area that was just destroyed by hurricanes.



The American Welding Society estimates that the industry is losing thousands of skilled welders every year. The deficit could leave more than 400,000 potential jobs unfilled by 2014, the AWS reports.



I find this so hard to believe that in these economic times that there werent existing American workers available.
Or was it that the immigrants were able to be hired at much cheaper rates?

Cant be that hard if you read the news or something about the job markets. Skilled labor forces are a HUGE problem right now. Everyone wants a law or comp sci degree, which is sad. Because the world still needs ditch diggers.

Firetxmi
03-11-2008, 12:49 PM
What packet said, along with the fact that foreign welders are cheaper contributes to this. Its just another sort of outsourcing.

Keep buying those cheap products and support it though.

Bongopete
03-11-2008, 01:23 PM
I agree with both of you in that skilled trades training isnt really pushed or something AND that the outsourcing is a big factor as well...well the fact that the companies can get their labor cheaper elsewhere.
Its a sad state of affairs.

packetloss
03-11-2008, 01:39 PM
I agree with both of you in that skilled trades training isnt really pushed or something AND that the outsourcing is a big factor as well...well the fact that the companies can get their labor cheaper elsewhere.
Its a sad state of affairs.

It honestly isnt that - I know foreign pipefitters in fort mcmurray are making just as much as canadian workers, plus a percentage bonus for health and pension, and as many as 4 trips home (paid) per year. Surely that cant be cheaper than hiring locals? How many people do you know that planned to become a trademan after highschool, and didnt plan on college/military?

Companies here are blitzing HR sites and publications, but just cant get enough workers to fill the jobs.

Ordie
03-11-2008, 02:34 PM
The US is in a pickle when it comes to trades. There's a lot of finger pointing going around. The primary target are the high schools and counselors that actively discriminates trades in favor for a college education. Moreover there is a focus towards academics and high technology at high schools at the expense of sports and trade classes (woodshop, metal shop, autoshop etc..)

Needless to say there is an anti-blue collar attitude being promoted at the nation's high schools. And now it will further hurt our economy.

The low dollar is attracting European companies to set up assembly lines and factories in the US. More specifically in the southern gulf region where tax incentives and access to seaports makes them attractive sites.

The problem for quality minded European companies is the lack of an educated and trained local workforce. Alabama, the proposed site for the Airbus 330 assembly line and current site for European auto assembly lines, ranks 45 in education nationwide.

NavyTimes
03-11-2008, 05:11 PM
This is exactly the same problem as we are seeing here. The level of welfare in the population is such that kids just want to study drama and media ****e.

The upside for the people that do take an education as carpenter, welder and so forth is that they make more money than people with years and years of college/uni education, lol. Its obviously hurting the economy in the country as a whole though.

Ordie
03-11-2008, 06:17 PM
This is exactly the same problem as we are seeing here. The level of welfare in the population is such that kids just want to study drama and media ****e.

I see a whole bunch of them working at Starbucks as baristas.

Calanen
03-11-2008, 06:28 PM
Its not uncommon for employers to tell employees things that do not pan out, or are untrue, false or misleading at the time of them being hired to get them to sign on. If these guys were told, they would get a greencard when they were hired - why shouldnt they sue? It is a real problem for employees on visas, because you become a virtual slave. The employer can do whatever they want, and has the threat of your status hanging over you. You also cant easily leave to get another job, because your visa is tied to your employer.

Ordie
03-11-2008, 06:46 PM
You also cant easily leave to get another job, because your visa is tied to your employer.

Even H1-B high tech workers in Silicon Valley are trapped with their employers while others have the ability to change jobs or start-up new companies. What makes it bad, is that their spouces are prohibited from working thus cannot contribute to the economy nor income taxes. They are often isolated at home and not integrating with the society at large.