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J-10
03-12-2008, 06:15 AM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed139.html
Where the People Don't Rule
by Fred Reed March 11, 2008

Common delusions notwithstanding, the United States, I submit, is not a democracy – by which is meant a system in which the will of the people prevails. Rather it is a curious mechanism artfully designed to circumvent the will of the people while appearing to be democratic. Several mechanisms accomplish this.

First, we have two identical parties which, when elected, do very much the same things. Thus the election determines not policy but only the division of spoils. Nothing really changes. The Democrats will never seriously reduce military spending, nor the Republicans, entitlements.

Second, the two parties determine on which questions we are allowed to vote. They simply refuse to engage the questions that matter most to many people. If you are against affirmative action, for whom do you vote? If you regard the schools as abominations? If you want to end the president’s hobbyist wars?

Third, there is the effect of large jurisdictions. Suppose that you lived in a very small (and independent) school district and didn’t like the curriculum. You could buttonhole the head of the school board, whom you would probably know, and say, “Look, Jack, I really think….” He would listen.

But suppose that you live in a suburban jurisdiction of 300,000. You as an individual mean nothing. To affect policy, you would have to form an organization, canvass for votes, solicit contributions, and place ads in newspapers. This is a fulltime job, prohibitively burdensome.

The larger the jurisdiction, the harder it is to exert influence. Much policy today is set at the state level. Now you need a statewide campaign to change the curriculum. Practically speaking, it isn’t practical.

Fourth are impenetrable bureaucracies. A lot of policy is set by making regulations at some department or other, often federal. How do you call the Department of Education to protest a rule which is in fact a policy? The Department has thousands of telephones, few of them listed, all of which will brush you off. There is nothing the public can do to influence these goiterous, armored, unaccountable centers of power.

Yes, you can write your senator, and get a letter written by computer, “I thank you for your valuable insights, and assure you that I am doing all….”

Fifth is the invisible bureaucracy (which is also impenetrable). A few federal departments get at least a bit of attention from the press, chiefly State and Defense (sic). Most of the government gets no attention at all – HUD, for example. Nobody knows who the Secretary of HUD is, or what the department is doing. Similarly, the textbook publishers have some committee whose name I don’t remember (See? It works) that decides what words can be used in texts, how women and Indians must be portrayed, what can be said about them, and so on. Such a group amounts to an unelected ministry of propaganda and, almost certainly, you have never heard of it.

Sixth, there is the illusion of journalism. The newspapers and networks encourage us to think of them as a vast web of hard-hitting, no-holds-barred, chips-where-they-may inquisitors of government: You can run, but you can’t hide. In fact federal malefactors don’t have to run or hide. The press isn’t really looking.

Most of press coverage is only apparent. Television isn’t journalism, but a service that translates into video stories found in the Washington Post and New York Times (really). Few newspapers have bureaus in Washington; the rest follow the lead of a small number of major outlets. These don’t really cover things either.

When I was reporting on the military, there were (if memory serves) many hundreds of reporters accredited to the Pentagon, or at least writing about the armed services. It sounds impressive: All those gimlet eyes.

What invariably happened though was that some story would break – a toilet seat alleged to cost too much, or the failure of this or that. All the reporters would chase the toilet seat, fearful that their competitors might get some detail they didn’t. Thus you had one story covered six hundred times. In any event the stories were often dishonest and almost always ignorant because reporters, apparently bound by some natural law, are obligate technical illiterates. This includes the reporters for the Post and the Times.

Seventh, and a bit more subtle, is the lack of centers of demographic power in competition with the official government. The Catholic Church, for example, once influentially represented a large part of the population. It has been brought to heel. We are left with government by lobby – the weapons industry, big pharma, AIPAC, the teachers unions – whose representatives pay Congress to do things against the public interest.

Eighth, we are ruled not by a government but by a class. Here the media are crucial. Unless you spend time outside of America, you may not realize to what extent the press is controlled. The press is largely free, yes, but it is also largely owned by a small number of corporations which, in turn, are run by people from the same pool from which are drawn high-level pols and their advisers. They are rich people who know each other and have the same interests. It is very nearly correct to say that these people are the government of the United States, and that the federal apparatus merely a useful theatrical manifestation.

Finally, though it may not be deliberate, the schools produce a pitiably ignorant population that can’t vote wisely. Just as trial lawyers don’t want intelligent jurors, as they are harder to manipulate, so political parties don’t want educated voters. The existence of a puzzled mass gawping at Oprah reduces elections to popularity contests modulated by the state of the economy. One party may win, yes, or the other. But a TV-besotted electorate doesn’t meddle in matters important to its rulers. It has never heard of them.

To disguise all of this, elections provide the excitement and intellectual content of a football game, without the importance. They allow a sense of Participation. In bars across the land, in high-school gyms become forums, people become heated about what they imagine to be decisions of great import: This candidate or that? It keeps them from feeling left out while denying them power.

It is fraud. In a sense, the candidates do not even exist. A presidential candidate consists of two speechwriters, a makeup man, a gestures coach, ad agency, two pollsters and an interpreter of focus groups. Depending on his numbers, the handlers may suggest a more fixed stare to crank up his decisiveness quotient for male or Republican voters, or dial in a bit of compassion for a Democratic or female audience. The newspapers will report this calculated transformation. Yet it works. You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.

When people sense this and decline to vote, we cluck like disturbed hens and speak of apathy. Nope. Just common sense.

Hawaii_Light
03-12-2008, 06:30 AM
screwed up and posted twice....

Hawaii_Light
03-12-2008, 06:32 AM
essentially the United States is eight political parties less of a democracy then Norway and one political party more then a single party country like China. either way it is essentially a failure at both systems.
The political parties in the US of America, either way you lean, is really not that much different in the fact they will both drive United States into even more ruin.

edited for capitalization and changed the word "America" to "United States"

Calanen
03-12-2008, 06:35 AM
Common delusions notwithstanding, the United States, I submit, is not a democracy – by which is meant a system in which the will of the people prevails. Rather it is a curious mechanism artfully designed to circumvent the will of the people while appearing to be democratic.


The people couldnt rule the country, even if they wanted to. The best way to preserve order amongst a large group is to give them the illusion that they have a say, but really for a small group of people to do whatever the hell they like. It's like the little kid with his Fisher Price backseat driver, he thinks hes driving so he doesnt scream in the car..but really mom and dad have the wheel.

SBL
03-12-2008, 07:45 AM
Right. Glass houses, etc.

Dragonscript
03-12-2008, 08:27 AM
The United States isn't a democracy, but a republic. Subtle but important difference.

gvg
03-12-2008, 08:54 AM
Quote by the best comedian we ever had in my country.


Democracy is the will of the people. Every morning I read with amazement in the newspaper what it is I want this time.


The United States isn't a democracy, but a republic. Subtle but important difference.
Uhhhhh....
republic <-> monarchy
democracy <-> dictatorship

Dragonscript
03-12-2008, 09:14 AM
Quote by the best comedian we ever had in my country.




Uhhhhh....
republic <-> monarchy
democracy <-> dictatorship

I don't understand what you're getting at. The whole <-> has me confused.

2Sheds_Jackson
03-12-2008, 09:57 AM
This article is so bad that I almost didn't even bother responding to it's idiocy. But I just drank a gallon of coffee, and feel compelled to reply.

Point 1. The two parties are not identical, and the article makes no attempt to show how they are. We're supposed to take his word for it. We could start up a third party that recommends real change - like handing each person a $2000/mo federal subsidy, throwing others in internment camps, and turning the White House into a roller disco rink - but it would not be successful - the democratic process would kill it. The two parties sit at the center of what our society deems normal, yet there are marked differences between the two.

Point 2. The idea that a candidate will stand there and tell us what's important to us, and that we'll simply accept it, strains credulity. Those who try doing that will simply be eliminated by democracy. And please...does the author seriously wonder who to vote for if he's against affirmative action?

Point 3. If the writer would like a system where one person dictates terms to a much larger group, then what he's after is not democracy after all.

Point 4. All forms of government have bureaucracy, democracy is no different. As far as getting a "letter written by a computer" back from his Senator - I've written to my Senator (it was Dole at the time) and received personally signed letters back.

Point 5. The author should be too embarrassed to even commit this to writing.

Point 6. Anybody here could quickly put together a long list of corrupt officials brought down by the media, and policies that have been changed as a result of media coverage. In fact, in his very next point, the author cites the Catholic church - a politically powerful group in our democracy - which of course was damaged by media coverage. I have to hand it to any writer with balls enough to blatantly contradict himself within the span of only two paragraphs.

Point 7. If some citizens in our democracy have decided to participate in democracy more than others, they can be expected to be more successful at it.

Point 8. It's rather funny that the author threw in "unless you spend time outside America" - implying that if only we got outside our corrupt system we'd see the light. This is a poor substitute for supplying evidence to shore up his assertions. Bill Clinton grew up dirt poor and became President - presumably that's sufficient evidence that anybody can do it.

Point 9. Democracy asks more of it's members than other systems do. If we as individuals don't educate ourselves, then it's our own fault. I also find this point very funny, coming from the author who previously admitted in point #5 that he was pretty much an uninterested, uninformed doofus.

How he then turns around and writes an article about a subject which he himself claims to be ignorant is beyond me.

Bongopete
03-12-2008, 11:02 AM
I simply refuse to be baited. :-(

Lt. James Anderson
03-12-2008, 11:31 AM
Good article.
Democrapcy is a sham ..

Power_serj
03-12-2008, 11:33 AM
LOL. The United States is a Constitutional Republic, where our Constitution grants us the rights of democracy. The United States only has a two-party system because it is the will of the people. There is no law stating only two parties can compete in elections. In fact, there are many parties, but they just don't see the light of day because no one gives a crap about them.

Second, we are actually a lot more democratic than most people think. Remember, we have a representitive democracy. We elect officials to represent us. I say we are more democratic than a lot of other countries because unlike European countries, the United States has a federal system, rather than a unitary system.

In a unitary system, like most of Europe, the local governments abide by the rules of the higher government. They don't have their own power. However, in the United States, the states are soverign. States have their own laws, then those states allow counties and towns to establish their own laws. There are so many things you vote for.

You can vote for (starting at the local level): school board, town mayor, county government, governor, state representives, senator, president, etc...

kamaz
03-12-2008, 12:53 PM
a guy from China posting an article critical of US democracy and freedom of choice lol.


good stuff.

gvg
03-12-2008, 02:10 PM
I don't understand what you're getting at. The whole <-> has me confused.
Is this serious or bait?

You can have a democracy in a republic (or a monarchy).
You can hace a dictatorship in a republic (or a monarchy).

A republic can be a democracy. A republic can't be a monarchy.

Republic or monarchy has to do with the head of state.
Democracy or dictatorship has to do with having (open) elections.

Albatross
03-12-2008, 03:16 PM
Is this serious or bait?

You can have a democracy in a republic (or a monarchy).
You can hace a dictatorship in a republic (or a monarchy).

A republic can be a democracy. A republic can't be a monarchy.

Republic or monarchy has to do with the head of state.
Democracy or dictatorship has to do with having (open) elections.

Dictatorships don't hold elections.

Dragonscript
03-12-2008, 03:24 PM
Is this serious or bait?

You can have a democracy in a republic (or a monarchy).
You can hace a dictatorship in a republic (or a monarchy).

A republic can be a democracy. A republic can't be a monarchy.

Republic or monarchy has to do with the head of state.
Democracy or dictatorship has to do with having (open) elections.

Oh, I'm serious but i think our terminology is off.

A republic is a representative democracy, so saying that you have democracy in a republic is the same as saying you have democracy in a representative democracy.

Drunkensquid
03-12-2008, 03:28 PM
a guy from China posting an article critical of US democracy and freedom of choice lol.


good stuff.

A perfect example of how you can speak your mind freely in America....:)

Wondering what would happen to someone in China publicly saying something similar about THE Party...:))))

Ordie
03-12-2008, 03:31 PM
Dictatorships don't hold elections.

Except if they want to be dictators.
Hitler was elected.

"All men would be tyrants if they could."
- Daniel Defoe 1712

z0rr0101
03-12-2008, 03:40 PM
LOL. The United States is a Constitutional Republic, where our Constitution grants us the rights of democracy. The United States only has a two-party system because it is the will of the people. There is no law stating only two parties can compete in elections. In fact, there are many parties, but they just don't see the light of day because no one gives a crap about them.

Second, we are actually a lot more democratic than most people think. Remember, we have a representitive democracy. We elect officials to represent us. I say we are more democratic than a lot of other countries because unlike European countries, the United States has a federal system, rather than a unitary system.

In a unitary system, like most of Europe, the local governments abide by the rules of the higher government. They don't have their own power. However, in the United States, the states are soverign. States have their own laws, then those states allow counties and towns to establish their own laws. There are so many things you vote for.

You can vote for (starting at the local level): school board, town mayor, county government, governor, state representives, senator, president, etc...

You are over simplifying things. Europe is much more complicated then you think. It might be news to you but in most European countries we elect town mayors, county councils, even state parliaments. Yes there are countries that have, as you described it, "unitary system" but there are also those that look very much like USA. To mention one of the biggest countries, Bundesrepublik Deutschland, freely translated as Federal Republic of Germany that consists of sixteen federal states. Most countries are somewhere in between or having other special arrangements that might sound even stranger to you.

It is foolish to claim that these countries are less democratic beacuse they don't work according to your picture of democracy. Just one simple thing like size makes big difference. Why would country of 2-3 millions no larger then NY state need multiple parliaments, school boards, governors, etc.

USA has a system that suits its size, population and history precisely as each European country has its own system that match their size, population and history. These things are never easy and they are always more complicated in Europe.

Evil Scientist
03-12-2008, 04:45 PM
Dictatorships don't hold elections.


Sometimes they do just for show. results are fixed.

vryhpyammoadded
03-12-2008, 04:45 PM
I agree with the symptoms but completely disagree with the cop out “declining to vote being just common sense”. Sure the real conservative right is feeling disenfranchised, it is and voting seems useless but your vote still counts locally and can send a message via the third party waste vote. But, simply bitching and moaning about the left and lefter parties pilfering everyone’s collective money jar is unproductive. A suggestion as to how to fix this would have been enough to avoid extreme ridicule. This guy wrote possibly the worst thing imaginable for his cause.

What he should have added was that to fix this, one of two things must happen. One, the disenfranchised real US conservatives (Individualists) must build a new party or two, take over the old.
But, I think he’s fallen into the nihilism trap and gotten to fixated on how he and everyone else is going to get ripped off by the looters and moochers chanting “It’s for the children”, “Our souls are broken”, “You owe it to society” and of course, “CHAAAAAAANGE” (DOOOOOOM as chanted to Thulsa).

Really it’s not that big a deal. One simply needs to study the philosophy behind the Constitution, read a little Rand, Friedman and other works and identify the collectivist corruption happening around him and he becomes inoculated against its influence. From there he can inoculate others, defend himself legally, economically, gather forces and attempt to swing politics. But there in lies the problem with individualist philosophy; it takes individual effort and the avoidance of the nihilism traps collectivist’s plant in front of you. This guy just doesn’t seem to have any guts at the moment, swimming in the angst of losing a battle.

It’s ok, I feel his pain and soon everyone else will too but pain is the best of teachers and everyone deserves a chance to learn. Give it a few more years and better luck next election! The Republic is fine; it’s only contracted a bad collectivist virus. The Constitution will pull us through when everyone takes a dose of responsibility the hard way. God I’d love to ram that booster shot needle up everyone’s collective ass!

Evil Scientist
03-12-2008, 04:50 PM
You are over simplifying things. Europe is much more complicated then you think.


Thanks for saving me time.

Maybe he (power_serj) is thinking along the lines of unity =>community =>communism?

Which suits more to the Europe/European Union he has in mind.

gvg
03-12-2008, 05:13 PM
Oh, I'm serious but i think our terminology is off.

A republic is a representative democracy, so saying that you have democracy in a republic is the same as saying you have democracy in a representative democracy.
A republic can be a representative democracy, it doesn't have to be. At least in theory it could also be a direct democracy, or a dictatorship.

But direct democracies are usually very small communities. Ancient Athens comes to mind. The only other way we see it in the West at the moment (when applied to countries) is with a referendum.

But I think we understand eachother.

Calanen
03-12-2008, 05:30 PM
Dictatorships don't hold elections.

Not so. They often do - they are just usually rigged.

2Sheds_Jackson
03-12-2008, 06:09 PM
God I’d love to ram that booster shot needle up everyone’s collective ass!

Now there's something you don't read every day. :)

Kilgor
03-12-2008, 06:12 PM
Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried.
- Winston Churchill

INCONEL
03-13-2008, 09:01 AM
LOL we have a representitive democracy.


There is no such thing...you're a clone if you think a REPRESENTITIVE GOVT. even exists anymore.. Dont people read or research anymore?? Or do they form their opinions from the bullsh*t fed to them...