Can any1 put this into better context?

[Migs]

I just got a new rifle, the man ive been training with tells me to clean it first before firing it. My dad (whos the most stubborn man ive ever known ) goes and starts to argue why clean it when its brand new? I know when i go home and start cleaning it hes just gonna start to argue and i need a "stfu answer" (but in a nicer form, cause telling him the truth,"dad your stupid, stfu", would give him a motive to kick my ass:hug:). Can any1 give me an easy explanation for this?:cantbeli:

[Mofreaka]

Well if its brand spankin' new, won't it have factory grease and crap in it? Any way, you want to learn the in's and outs of your rifle, and how to clean it before anything. Isn't that one of those important fire arm safety things? Understand your rifle, and realize it's not a toy? So yah, tell him you need the practice, if not because of the factory grease.

[Migs]

yeah its fresh outa the box...a remington M597 auto....ive been shooting for about 2 months now with a remy bolt action so auto is new to me and the NRA guys have taught me alot of stuff about safety and such.....most likely ill just say it's factory grease i need to get rid of....

[jes37235]

Maybe they're just referring to cleaning the bore, and even cleaning between shots to break it in as factory residue can remain in the barrel (from the machining and whatnot). I typically use MP7 and follow it with a copper solvent.

[T3ngu]

Maybe they're just referring to cleaning the bore, and even cleaning between shots to break it in as factory residue can remain in the barrel (from the machining and whatnot). I typically use MP7 and follow it with a copper solvent.

Thats what I was thinking.

[Jippo]

Well, all new rifles(and other guns) should receive a thorough cleaning before use. Factory will have put in storage grease to protect the rifle from corrosion for extended storage times, and that grease should definately be removed before shooting. It is not meant to be there when shooting. To put an extra twist on that, Russian manufacturers have used, if not use still, grease that is harmfull to health. So until you clean it, you'll be exposing yourself to mildly poisonous substance everytime you handle the gun. :)

Additionally on a new rifle you should break it in(as said) which is a lengthy process involving shooting and cleaning in succession.

And everytime you go to the range with a cleaned gun, the first thing to do is to clean the oil from the barrel before shooting.

[Cam]

Ever consider these guys may know more than your father?

Whenever my father purchases a new gun we always clean it up and do some inspecting before taking it out to the range.

[Migs]

my dad knows nothing of guns at all...hes just thinks he knows everything so he acts like it sometimes.....:backhand:....its fun time though and in the end we are laughing about something....now should i clean the rifle everytime after shooting? im on spring brake soon and i plan to spend time at the range

[scorpy1]

Well, all new rifles(and other guns) should receive a thorough cleaning before use. Factory will have put in storage grease to protect the rifle from corrosion for extended storage times, and that grease should definately be removed before shooting. It is not meant to be there when shooting. To put an extra twist on that, Russian manufacturers have used, if not use still, grease that is harmfull to health. So until you clean it, you'll be exposing yourself to mildly poisonous substance everytime you handle the gun. :)

Additionally on a new rifle you should break it in(as said) which is a lengthy process involving shooting and cleaning in succession.

And everytime you go to the range with a cleaned gun, the first thing to do is to clean the oil from the barrel before shooting.

Being an ex Armourer I thoroughly agree!!! It should be stripped and cleaned BEFORE use. The factory grease will also tend to overheat and can mildly damage surfaces and build up carbon deposits. The 'breaking in technique' is a good one to follow. Remember that the oil is a preservative only for between firings and not necessary for the weapon to fire. Again, as Jippo has stated, clean out excess oil before firing with a pull thru.

[Migs]

cool....thx every1 for the help...me and my dad are going to ****s or gander mountian to buy a cleaning kit and the other accessories tomorrow....