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IraGlacialis
03-14-2008, 11:20 PM
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Chavez says US can 'shove' terror list
By JORGE RUEDA, Associated Press Writer

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Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez gestures during a press conference at the Miraflores Presidential Palace in Caracas, Wednesday, March 5, 2008. Chavez dared the U.S. on Friday to put Venezuela on a list of countries accused of supporting terrorism, calling it one more attempt by Washington to undermine him for political reasons. Chavez said the 'threat to include us on the terrorist list' is Washington's response to his own successes in the region.(AP Photo/Fernando Llano, FILE)

CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez dared the U.S. on Friday to put Venezuela on a list of countries accused of supporting terrorism, calling it one more attempt by Washington to undermine him for political reasons. Chavez said the "threat to include us on the terrorist list" is Washington's response to his own successes in the region.
U.S. lawmakers including Rep. Connie Mack and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, both Florida Republicans, have called for the State Department to add Venezuela to its list of terror sponsors, which currently includes North Korea, Iran, Syria, Sudan and Cuba. They have expressed concerns about what they call Chavez's close ties to Colombia's leftist rebels.
"Let them make that list and shove it in their pocket," Chavez said in a televised speech.
"We shouldn't forget for an instant that we're in a battle against North American imperialism and that they have classified us as enemies — at least in this continent they have us as enemy No. 1," Chavez said.
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Thursday during a visit to Brazil that all U.N. nations, including Venezuela, have an obligation to go after terrorists and keep them from operating within their borders.
The comment was largely a warning for Chavez, who U.S. officials suspect has lent support to Colombian rebels. In recent days, Rice and President Bush have sharpened their rhetoric against Chavez while at the same time praising Colombia and other Latin American allies in a bid to isolate the Venezuelan leader.
Asked whether Washington was seriously considering designating Venezuela as a state sponsor of terrorism, Rice said the U.S. was ready to respond if necessary.
"There is after all a U.N. obligation that all states have undertaken to do everything that they can to prevent terrorists from actively using their territory, from being engaged in terrorist financing," Rice told reporters after a meeting with Brazilian leaders Thursday.
Chavez said Rice's visit to Brazil and Chile this week is aimed at mounting "pressures" against "our government and against me in particular."
Chavez also responded to earlier critical comments by Bush, saying "you've seen the imperial chief himself attack us again."
"The chief of the empire is going around desperate," Chavez said.
"The imperial plan is to overthrow this government and knock down the Bolivarian Revolution," he said, referring to his socialist movement. "They're afraid of the impact of this revolution in the rest of the countries ... of Latin America. That permanent aggression is because of that."
Bush on Wednesday accused the Venezuelan government of destabilizing, provocative behavior, saying "it has squandered its oil wealth in an effort to promote its hostile, anti-American vision."

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khalifah
03-14-2008, 11:23 PM
:backhand:

(Chavez is the blue guy...)

SBL
03-14-2008, 11:30 PM
Anything this guy says just passes beyond the controversial and straight into the comical. I wonder if anyone takes him seriously anymore.

Hilbert
03-14-2008, 11:31 PM
"We shouldn't forget for an instant that we're in a battle against North American imperialism and that they have classified us as enemies — at least in this continent they have us as enemy No. 1," Chavez said.

Enemy No. 1? rofl
I'd say Comedian No. 1 would be more accurate.

Nano
03-14-2008, 11:33 PM
Bush on Wednesday accused the Venezuelan government of destabilizing, provocative behavior, saying "it has squandered its oil wealth in an effort to promote its hostile, anti-American vision."


The Dear Leader speaks words of wisdom.

Ought Six
03-15-2008, 12:37 AM
Chavez would be funny if he was not dragging what was once the most propserous nation in South America down with him. :-(

khalifah
03-15-2008, 12:41 AM
seriously, does anyone really take him seriously anymore?
The time I lost respect for him was when he called Bush "the Devil" during a UN meeting some time ago

...you cant talk among the International Community like that and expect to communicate well with other nations.:bash:

that_one_guy
03-15-2008, 12:44 AM
this entire thing for some reason reminds me of this dave chappelle skit:



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http://youtube.com/v/o9Giln-f9OQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=o9Giln-f9OQ)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o9Giln-f9OQ

Bongopete
03-15-2008, 12:45 AM
Anything this guy says just passes beyond the controversial and straight into the comical. I wonder if anyone takes him seriously anymore.


I do......hmmmph....hmmmm......llolLOLOLOLOL ok, I cant..I just cant!rofl

Freedom-Fries
03-16-2008, 10:55 AM
Chavez is getting more crazy each day

jd123
03-16-2008, 01:12 PM
And he got elected....what does that say?

Flamming_Python
03-16-2008, 01:24 PM
The Dear Leader speaks words of wisdom.

Bush has spoke some wise words lately... p-)

3rdMillhouse
03-16-2008, 03:15 PM
And he got elected....what does that say?

It says nothing. Nothing at all.

Bongopete
03-17-2008, 12:51 PM
I say; 'bring it on fatboy'.

Rictor
03-17-2008, 08:50 PM
Chavez would be funny if he was not dragging what was once the most propserous nation in South America down with him. :-(

That doesn't sound right. Venezuela has had a GDP growth hovering around 9% for several years now; admitedlly owing by the high price of oil. It's currently the 3rd richest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_South_America#GDP_ranks_as_of_2007) nation in South America, behind the obvious front-runners Brazil and Argentina.

Look, I don't love the guy either, but facts are facts.

smurf one
03-17-2008, 09:26 PM
CHAVEZ REMINDS ME OF PINEAPPLE FACE THE GUY FROM PANAMA, I FORGET HIS NAME. ANY WAYS HERE IS A LINK THAT SAYS VENEZUELA IS BUILDING TORPEDOS.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23681413/

SBL
03-17-2008, 09:52 PM
^You mean Noriega.

Lambert58
03-19-2008, 02:12 AM
I'd feel sorry for the venezuelan people if they hadn't actually elected this dumbarse. But, as they say, in a democracy, you get the government you deserve.... or deserve the government you get... or some such.

Wolfmanjack
03-19-2008, 02:18 AM
I'd feel sorry for the venezuelan people if they hadn't actually elected this dumbarse. But, as they say, in a democracy, you get the government you deserve.... or deserve the government you get... or some such.



LMAO Elected ? You seriously think there has been a FAIR election in the world in the last 20-30 years?

I will shut up now about election fraud etc.. Want more info check out Blackbox voting ..

ronnieraygun
03-19-2008, 02:23 AM
LMAO Elected ? You seriously think there has been a FAIR election in the world in the last 20-30 years?

Well, yeah. What is going on with your post? The Miller Lite flowing too freely tonight?


I will shut up now about election fraud etc.. Want more info check out Blackbox voting ..

-Sure, right after I sell Diebold stock and remove my aluminum foil cover.

Ought Six
03-19-2008, 02:45 AM
R:
"That doesn't sound right. Venezuela has had a GDP growth hovering around 9% for several years now; admitedlly owing by the high price of oil. It's currently the 3rd richest nation in South America, behind the obvious front-runners Brazil and Argentina. Look, I don't love the guy either, but facts are facts."Your facts are out of date. Oil production is way down since the oil fields were nationalized. The Venezuelans simply cannot maintain the production infrastructure they stole by themselves. Social policies have destroyed their economy. Price fixing, empty store shelves, skyrocketing unemployment and runaway inflation are the facts there now. It is damn near impossible to get milk or eggs in what was, not long ago, the richest per captia nation in South America. This is the new economic reality there. Venezuela is headed the way of Zimbabwe.

I think your error was looking just at the growth rate of the GDP. With oil prices shooting up, even with falling production Venezuela enjoyed a fourth quarter growth rate of over 8%. But their annual inflation rate was over 22% last year, and this year they are expecting consumer price increases of between 30% and 40%. That means a real growth rate of near zero last year, and accellerating negative growth this year. When you have a golden situation where the main commodity you sell doubles in price in a short time, yet your economy is headed into increasing negative real growth, you are in deep, deep sh1t. As the economy, under the devastating socialist policies of Chavez, continues to crumble and basic goods and services become less and less available, the government tries to compensate and placate the masses with more wealth redistribution. This is taking the form of 'land reform', nationalizing more industries and more government handouts. Venezuela is headed for a serious crash, and every action Chavez takes only hastens the inevitable.

pacifist
03-19-2008, 11:01 AM
Chavez is too vulgar man to lead a country.

I'd say this even if he was a moderate. Leader of a country shouldn't act the way he does. Same goes for Mugabe and Ahmadinejad.

IraGlacialis
03-19-2008, 12:26 PM
Same goes for Mugabe and Ahmadinejad.
Maybe the three of them are in a perpetual pissing match to who can be the biggest **** on the international stage. Especially Chavez and Ahmadinejad.

Ahmadinejaz has a head start with his always popular "Death to Israel" and "Merry Christmas Americans & Down with the Great Satan", but Chavez is catching up with his "I Can Smell the Brimestone" and "Here's what I Think of your Terror List & Bring it On".
A tough call.

Rictor
03-20-2008, 11:37 PM
I thought that "I can smell the brimstone" was a classic. On par with Kruschev's shoe-banging.


Venezuela is headed for a serious crash, and every action Chavez takes only hastens the inevitable.
It could that you're right - I haven't really been reading up on the situation as much as I used to. Time will tell, though I think predictions of Zimbabwification are a bit drastic.

Ought Six
03-20-2008, 11:53 PM
R:

I only said that they are headed down the same road. The Venezuelan people can step off it at any time by getting rid of Chavez and his insane policies. I ferverently hope they do so. If not, and they stick with Chavez long enough, however, they will arrive where Zimbabwe is now. If you really examine the specific economic and social policies, corruption, cronyism and the way opposition is dealt with, the sole difference between Chavez and where Mugabe was a few years after he took over is that Chavez is not as openly barbaric to those who oppose him.