Resurrection - New MP.net Coup

[Barnes]

Hello all,

Following on from the old thread http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92739
I missed the last one, but wondered what people would think of planning another?

Ideas on locations?

[Dispatcher]

PM Hellfish6, he's copyrighted MP.net coups.

And Venezuela would be my choice.

[Barnes]

Some sort of Jungle enviroment would be good. Somewhere in South east asia.

[TheBelgian]

Man, Venezuela would be a whole different ball game from Equatorial Guinnea. Taking it to a completely new level on that one.

[Ubar]

You would need a pretty good budget for venezuela :o

[zad]

Zimbawe, but making clear in advance that you can´t replace the current regime with a new afrikaner one (we have some nostalgic members around). p-)

[Dispatcher]

Zimbawe, but making clear in advance that you can´t replace the current regime with a new afrikaner one (we have some nostalgic members around). p-)


Then why would we invade it?

Venezuela it is. Its a bigger challenge, and its got the recources to pay back the investment.

I propose;

Target; Venezuela.
Budget; 250million dollars. (Shell is bankrolling, more if need be)

Goal; replace the current government by all means nescecarry.

Take it away, Barnes!

[playtym]

Zimbawe, but making clear in advance that you can´t replace the current regime with a new afrikaner one (we have some nostalgic members around). p-)

When was was there ever an Afrikaaner regime in Zimbabwe for anyone to feel nostalgic over?

[safety_match]

Angola... Oil, and a tolerable climate for going about one's business.

[James]

How about setting up a stability operation in Darfur. Use a contracting company, figure out what assets you'll need. etc.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Attack this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_Island

[Billy No Mates]

Belgium,its ripe for the taking and has resources worth 'liberating' ie beer and chocolate .

[zad]

Liechestein!!!!!

[JesperAFCA]

hmm, who takes the lead 'bout this?

[Barnes]

I've messaged Hellfish6, since he started the first idea about this. If he agrees, I will be heading it up with him.

[Laworkerbee]

How about setting up a stability operation in Darfur. Use a contracting company, figure out what assets you'll need. etc.

Please do, I'm writing a story about an international A Team whose first mission is a job in Darfur and want to steal ideas.

[Tokamak]

I vote for Venezuela!.

[theholeinthedonut]

Liechestein!!!!!

Liechtenstein! Goddammit!

[SBL]

I've messaged Hellfish6, since he started the first idea about this. If he agrees, I will be heading it up with him.

You say that with such confidence.p-)

[Daniel San]

Venezuela would be nice. A bit big though. Darfur has got my heart's vote.

Obviously, Hellfish has a royal prerogative for designating the next target but a poll, democracy being nice and all, might be in order.

[Andreas]

No matter what happens, I suggest we use the airsoft section for a frontal attack perhaps a beach landing while we jump in behind enemy lines..

Cheers
Andreas

[TheBelgian]

Belgium,its ripe for the taking and has resources worth 'liberating' ie beer and chocolate .

We'll let you invade us, fatten you up wih our chocolate, inebriate you with our beer and then kick your bloated, drunken asses out. An audacious and bullet proof scheme.

How about Burma? Lots of resources, pretty outdated military but defenitly still a challenge. You'd have the population on your side, and no one in the world would miss the junta. And no matter what you did, you'd get a hailed as the saviour of Aung Sun Suu Kyi.

[Barnes]

You say that with such confidence.p-)

He can organize the whole thing If he wants, just offering assistance. I only bought this topic back up, so I could have a bash, as I missed the last time.

[Billy No Mates]

We'll let you invade us, fatten you up wih our chocolate, inebriate you with our beer and then kick your bloated, drunken asses out. An audacious and bullet proof scheme.

How about Burma? Lots of resources, pretty outdated military but defenitly still a challenge. You'd have the population on your side, and no one in the world would miss the junta. And no matter what you did, you'd get a hailed as the saviour of Aung Sun Suu Kyi.

A cunning strategy by you fiendish Lowlanders,imperialism is trickier than in the good old days now that nearly everyone has guns and the people your going to liberate/civilize are liable to actually fight back .
I like the idea of taking over an island(s) for a nice self contained fiefdom i wonder what the situation is in the Seychelles at the moment?, i know its been tried before but they look so nice in all the brochures .

[Barnes]

We'll let you invade us, fatten you up wih our chocolate, inebriate you with our beer and then kick your bloated, drunken asses out. An audacious and bullet proof scheme.

How about Burma? Lots of resources, pretty outdated military but defenitly still a challenge. You'd have the population on your side, and no one in the world would miss the junta. And no matter what you did, you'd get a hailed as the saviour of Aung Sun Suu Kyi.

Excellent idea.

[zad]

How about Burma? Lots of resources, pretty outdated military but defenitly still a challenge


Excellent idea.

Not so excelent, Burma has an army formed for around half a million men, that without counting military police and other paramilitary forces, the new capital Naypyidaw has been designed as a bunker to prevent a military coup or a revolt. Not an easy target.

[SBL]

Nice thread title, btw. Very Hollywood.

[Hellfish]

This has my blessing.

[ronnieraygun]

Madagascar?

Darfur and Venezuela seem like the best ideas yet, though.

[Barnes]

This has my blessing.

Thank you Hellfish.

[Albatross]

Darfur, I have some political/religious connections that we can use as a front to get a P.M.C. in country.

LAWB, I want a piece of the royalties.

I am at work, can't access image shack. Can we get some maps up?

[Flagg]

How about setting up a stability operation in Darfur. Use a contracting company, figure out what assets you'll need. etc.

I agree.......this sounds more interesting, achievable, and realistic

[James]

Darfur, I have some political/religious connections that we can use as a front to get a P.M.C. in country.

Pfft! Who needs a front? Hire a lobbying firm to push the U.S. Gov't/UN to make some sort of commitment, then we can just go, Sudanese be damned.

COntracting is pretty cool when you're sanctioned by a government. ;)

[Laworkerbee]

COntracting is pretty cool when you're sanctioned by a government. ;)

How about a George Soro's type backer, think an NGO with teeth.

[Mike Keenan]

Brilliant idea, I miss the old thread. It was great reading.

[Briggs]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbados

Carribean, tropical and grosses 5$ billion :)

[orange]

We really need to establish a country for the coup soon. Right now it's just alot of people spitting out their own ideas and we are not getting anywhere. In this coup-attempt it seems only fitting that either Barnes, for reviving the idea, or Hellfish, for coming up with the idea in the first place decides on a target for our attempts to topple a government.

[Hellfish]

We really need to establish a country for the coup soon. Right now it's just alot of people spitting out their own ideas and we are not getting anywhere. In this coup-attempt it seems only fitting that either Barnes, for reviving the idea, or Hellfish, for coming up with the idea in the first place decides on a target for our attempts to topple a government.

We're working on it. :)

[SBL]

We're working on it. :)

Let's hurry it up.

[Mike Keenan]

LET'S HURRY IT UP, GOD DAMN IT!
Fixed it for yap-)

[ronnieraygun]

Well, I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I will throw out some ideas if it is to be Darfur.

Here are some more political concerns first off:

-Protect OXFAM to provide potable water/necessities to the refugees.
-Immediately help to create a leadership structure within the SLA and coalesce with them and the African Union. Attempt to create cohesion between various rebel groups based not on tribal identity, but immediate need to unite to guarantee their survival.
-Immediately decapitate leadership structure of the Janjaweed, if any exists.
-Work to convince remaining Janjaweed to be part of the future process. They will likely not disband and go away. They need to be convinced that resource sharing is the future, if possible. Contacts need to be made in Chad for this purpose.

The first military concern is that anti-aircraft measures need to be in place to ensure the area is a no-fly zone for non-friendlies of any kind. This will ensure flow of aid supplies and stop aerial harassment. Measure could also be taken to restrict border movements - sanctions have not worked to convince the Sudanese government to end their support of the Janjaweed, although it is said that they have evolved as an independent entity. Flow of arms to the group would have to be cut off as best can be.


These are some starter ideas for now - I know there are a lot of people who can contribute to the important details who know what they're talking about.

[Dispatcher]

Hellfish6 and Barnes are on the job. These threads take time to compile.

Having said that; Hurry the f*ck up!

[ronnieraygun]

Hellfish6 and Barnes are on the job. These threads take time to compile.

Having said that; Hurry the f*ck up!

Fan dooby tantastic - can't wait to see this one.

[orange]

Fan dooby tantastic - can't wait to see this one.
X2.

This could be great.

[Albatross]

Well, I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night, so I will throw out some ideas if it is to be Darfur.

Here are some more political concerns first off:

-Protect OXFAM to provide potable water/necessities to the refugees.
-Immediately help to create a leadership structure within the SLA and coalesce with them and the African Union. Attempt to create cohesion between various rebel groups based not on tribal identity, but immediate need to unite to guarantee their survival.
-Immediately decapitate leadership structure of the Janjaweed, if any exists.
-Work to convince remaining Janjaweed to be part of the future process. They will likely not disband and go away. They need to be convinced that resource sharing is the future, if possible. Contacts need to be made in Chad for this purpose.

The first military concern is that anti-aircraft measures need to be in place to ensure the area is a no-fly zone for non-friendlies of any kind. This will ensure flow of aid supplies and stop aerial harassment. Measure could also be taken to restrict border movements - sanctions have not worked to convince the Sudanese government to end their support of the Janjaweed, although it is said that they have evolved as an independent entity. Flow of arms to the group would have to be cut off as best can be.


These are some starter ideas for now - I know there are a lot of people who can contribute to the important details who know what they're talking about.

Regarding Air Assets:

1) What our the air assets friendly to mp.net? Do we have any air to air capabilties?
2) From what I understand hostile air would consist of:
--12 Mig 29's
--29 Chengu F7's
--10 Shenyeng F5's Fresco
--20 Nanchang A5's
--16 Mi-24's Hinds
--6 Mi-8's Hips
--20 BO-105's
--20 AB-12's Agustas
--25 IAR 330 Pumas
--3 Mig 23 floggers
--Approx. 15 Transport Aircraft.

2)If we are to secure the air we would need an interlocking web of ground based air defense or ,and this is my suggestion, heavy pre-ground offensive strikes carried out via bomber/cruise missile.

2)Additional A/D could be manpad/vehicle based.


Of course, we have no access to any of this and this is all imaginary and we are not overthrowing anything because its big time illegal and we all like our freedom................................James made me do it.

[BloodyTalon]

I also want to chime in with "Operation; screw over Chavez." Yes, we'd be facing a bigger enemy, but we'd probably have more money to start off with (A lot of oil companies would benefit from his removal)

edit: Also, there's always Cuba ("Bay of Pigs II! Brought to you by Bacardi!")

[boone]

If we go into Darfur, will it be with "A nod and a wink" From the UN? Or with approval?

[Barnes]

I'll be posting all this up sometime tomorrow, Its late now. Hellfish and I have been communicating and It will be Darfur.

[Suicaine]

wow, i'm unfamiliar with this but it looks like a good activity.

- Alex.

[zad]

edit: Also, there's always Cuba ("Bay of Pigs II! Brought to you by Bacardi!")

Probably also by the cuban goverment, another bay of pigs will give them fuel for 30 years more of revolution. p-)

[gaz]

2) From what I understand hostile air would consist of:
--12 Mig 29's
--29 Chengu F7's
--10 Shenyeng F5's Fresco
--20 Nanchang A5's
--16 Mi-24's Hinds
--6 Mi-8's Hips
--20 BO-105's
--20 AB-12's Agustas
--25 IAR 330 Pumas
--3 Mig 23 floggers
--Approx. 15 Transport Aircraft.


Can I ask where you got these numbers from? Some of them appear to be wildly different to some of the numbers my company has on file.

[Albatross]

Can I ask where you got these numbers from? Some of them appear to be wildly different to some of the numbers my company has on file.

I used wiki, then took the maximum number. Prepare for the worst hope for the best. At best they are probably 50-70% to high, but I would rather have to many missiles then not enough. what do you have?

[gaz]

I have a sneaking suspicion our numbers are on the low side but I still have a suspicion yours are too high. I believe if we can't match the registration of an aircraft to a serial number, we don't count it. I'll try to confirm tomorrow.

[Hellfish]

I have a sneaking suspicion our numbers are on the low side but I still have a suspicion yours are too high. I believe if we can't match the registration of an aircraft to a serial number, we don't count it. I'll try to confirm tomorrow.

Out of curiosity, do you count aircraft that are inoperable?

And for what it's worth, guys - we're just gonna give you the tasks and standards of the mission (the who, what, when, where, why) and you've got the do the planning for it (the how) within the constraints of an operations budget we're going to give you.

[LaoSexMachine]

sweet. this willalso be called black Texas

[Daniel San]

I humbly suggest starting a new thread when HQ (Hellfish & Barnes) will have determined the constraints for this op.

I'll call up Calanen and Hank for the legal aspect of it all. p-)

[goat89]

Count me in Hellfish6. This Operation will be called Back Texas?

[James]

If y'all don't give me credit for coming up with Darfur I'm going to launch a coup at your house.

[Daniel San]

I wonder who came up with Darfur?

[goat89]

If y'all don't give me credit for coming up with Darfur I'm going to launch a coup at your house.
I think Hellfish will get Molly to come defend his house in Seattle. Get ready for an ass kicking.

[Albatross]

Out of curiosity, do you count aircraft that are inoperable?

And for what it's worth, guys - we're just gonna give you the tasks and standards of the mission (the who, what, when, where, why) and you've got the do the planning for it (the how) within the constraints of an operations budget we're going to give you.

contingency planning...... I dont want boone on my team though, he will make all the flags red.

[James]

I think Hellfish will get Molly to come defend his house in Seattle. Get ready for an ass kicking.

Haha, we used to live in Seattle, but moved away in September. It seems like a bunch of members all of a sudden live there, and I never knew before!

[D-gin]

Hehe, more planed madness. I hope this one is as much fun as last time.

[Albatross]

Hehe, more planed madness. I hope this one is as much fun as last time.

This is my first coup, can someone please break down how it works?

[SBL]

Haha, we used to live in Seattle, but moved away in September. It seems like a bunch of members all of a sudden live there, and I never knew before!
Sounds like a pretty narrow escape.

[D-gin]

This is my first coup, can someone please break down how it works?

Look up Hellfishs last coup thread, I think it went on for 60 or so pages, and have a read.


Interesting would be an understatement.

[Hellfish]

Haha, we used to live in Seattle, but moved away in September. It seems like a bunch of members all of a sudden live there, and I never knew before!

Hehe... I thought he was talking about my dog, whose name is Molly and is flying in on Friday.

But yeah, Darfur (your idea) was the best idea I saw. I was kinda pushing Barnes to do a Venezuela thing, but it would've been more of a CPX for conventional military forces than the Darfur plan. Darfur was a little more fun and a little less work. :)

[Hellfish]

This is my first coup, can someone please break down how it works?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92739

Lazy bastard.

[Flagg]

This is my first coup, can someone please break down how it works?

Awwwwww.......look at the coup cherry! Just kidding! :)


As mentioned...have a look at the first coup thread(Equitorial Guinea)...have a good read of it...have a good think about this one
(once posted).....draft and redraft your plan...and post it.

[goat89]

Hehe... I thought he was talking about my dog, whose name is Molly and is flying in on Friday.

But yeah, Darfur (your idea) was the best idea I saw. I was kinda pushing Barnes to do a Venezuela thing, but it would've been more of a CPX for conventional military forces than the Darfur plan. Darfur was a little more fun and a little less work. :)
???? LOL! What a coincidence. I though you wanted to do a defence of the carribeans (Dutch perspective) agst Venezuela invasion. But whatever, this is gonna be good. ;)

[Albatross]

Should break it down into teams, just a thought. People can use there expertiseessessses (expertness), to help the team come up with the plan.

[Hellfish]

Should break it down into teams, just a thought. People can use there expertiseessessses (expertness), to help the team come up with the plan.

You get picked last.

That is kind of an interesting idea. Don't know how it would work.

[Albatross]

You get picked last.

That is kind of an interesting idea. Don't know how it would work.

Preset amount of teams, like 3 teams?? Everyone signs up for a team. Teams are locked after 2 days or a week or something. Then we get a week to come up with a plan. Just spit balling here. Losing team gets boone.

[goat89]

Pretty interesting... but I know crap and cant help much say point out stuff.

[Daniel San]

I found that one of the more interesting aspects of the previous Coup thread was that different plans were built one on top of the other. Making teams kills the collaborative spirit that was at the core of the "Dogs of war" thread.

That's my 2 cents, anyway.

[SBL]

I found that one of the more interesting aspects of the previous Coup thread was that different plans were built one on top of the other. Making teams kills the collaborative spirit that was at the core of the "Dogs of war" thread.

That's my 2 cents, anyway.

Agree. All this talk of change makes me uneasy.

[LaoSexMachine]

30 mil. about 400 men, african prefered, weapons will be warsaw pact. technicala aka Hilux will be the main gun truck platform ..........i'm drunk think of something later

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

If y'all don't give me credit for coming up with Darfur I'm going to launch a coup at your house.

You and what army pal.

Count me in.

[TheBelgian]

So, I'm assuming in this game, we are talking Darfur in a hypothetical context? As in, real world facts don't apply? We won't have to worry about the EUFOR in Chad suddenly getting involved or a UN peacekeeping force coming in to mess things up?

[wildheart]

30 mil. about 400 men, african prefered, weapons will be warsaw pact. technicala aka Hilux will be the main gun truck platform ..........i'm drunk think of something later

(new to all this so forgive any daft comments)

we need Helo's. Nothing super fancy (unless we can get some dirt cheep Cobras's!) but something multi role eg Bell UH-1 - spot on for medivac, transport, recon ect

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Can't go into Africa without this guy

http://www.leonardodicaprio.com/leonardo/galleries/news/leonardo_diamond.jpg

[safety_match]

30 mil. about 400 men, african prefered, weapons will be warsaw pact. technicala aka Hilux will be the main gun truck platform ..........i'm drunk think of something later
With what objectives in mind?
Throwing figures about for darfur is difficult without clear objectives.

Key to any strategy for Darfur is logistics. There aren't many nearby countries with infrastructure to deal with Medevacs. That said, none are likely to be friendly to a private venture either.
Intra theatre logistics is also another aspect to be taken seriously. Helicopter or parachute supply is going to be a deciding factor in mission success regardless of the objectives.

Weapons are straightforward: WarsawPact - Post WP.
Technicals are cheap and mobile, however the enemy has them in abundance. Modular armour kits are likely to be a good investment.

List of nice to have if it were at all possible:
Airborne command platforms. Possibly King Airs or something similar?
Mudfighters. Consistent loitering CAS would break the resolve of any opposing force. Pilatus/Embraer.
BMP's...

[Mike Keenan]

With what objectives in mind?
Throwing figures about for darfur is difficult without clear objectives.

Key to any strategy for Darfur is logistics. There aren't many nearby countries with infrastructure to deal with Medevacs. That said, none are likely to be friendly to a private venture either.
Intra theatre logistics is also another aspect to be taken seriously. Helicopter or parachute supply is going to be a deciding factor in mission success regardless of the objectives.

In that area of the world, the nearest hospital can be 1000 km or more away.The EUFOR troops in Chad had to get more MEDIVACS helicopters IICR. Logistics will be a huge problem out in Dafur, so we might need a large amount of cargo aircraft like C-130's or medium lift 'copter like MI-17's

Weapons are straightforward: Warsaw Pact - Post WP.
Technicals are cheap and mobile, however the enemy has them in abundance. Modular armour kits are likely to be a good investment.

Technicals with Modular armour kits, great idea. We should keep it like the LRDG in WW2.

List of nice to have if it were at all possible:
Airborne command platforms. Possibly King Airs or something similar?
Mudfighters. Consistent loitering CAS would break the resolve of any opposing force. Pilatus/Embraer.
BMP's...

I think light aircraft are not a bad idea, but the BMP's would not be keeping with the idea of having a light, mobile yet powerful force.
As I said before a few MI-17's would a great idea.


My thoughts are in the bold text, I agree mostly with safety_match.

[safety_match]

My thoughts are in the bold text, I agree mostly with safety_match.
I'm hesitant to say we'll just need cargo aircraft.
That is too much like a hollywood balance sheet. Logistics is a black art as far as I am concerned. I know precious little about it, but what I do know is enough to convince me you need a strategy in place that supports ANY form of aggressive action.

Your entry strategy: Single deployment/Phased deployment. Regional/Localised.
Your base scenario. QM Locale. Rear staging.
Resupply: Heliborne/Motorized/Paradropped?
Medevac: Nearest friendly locale would possibly be Kenya but honestly, when I work in Africa SOP is to get medevacced OUT of Kenya. So, advice? North. Spain/Portugal or better yet? Tel-Aviv.This is not a complete list, but things to consider in your supply chain.
It starts getting hairy when you're talking about landlocked battlespaces, both in projected risks AND costs associated.

You can't exactly rent a C130 to fly into a warzone with the implicit intent to hammer the ever living stuffing out of the warring parties. Know what I mean? If you can, costs are expected to be huge.

I haven't exactly looked hard, BUT I couldn't find a C-130. Here is a 727-200F selection:
727 (http://www.controller.com/listings/forsale/list.asp?catid=3&man=BOEING&mdl=727%2D200F&guid=fd3491bc454e42a38554f24e35f62f2c)
Costly, as you can see.

Your ELINT/Tactical C&C setup with backup light supply role:
Cessna (http://www.controller.com/listings/detail.aspx?OHID=1134569)

Medevac:
Lear (http://www.controller.com/listings/detail.aspx?OHID=1134548)
You could go cheap on this. Doing that is a risk though.

Para/Light cargo aircraft:
Casa 212 (http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft-for-sale/CASA-212-100/1980-CASA-212-100/1128097.htm?guid=fd3491bc454e42a38554f24e35f62f2c)

Helicopters:
Mi-17's make sense cost wise. I cannot vouch for their combat capability though. Not my ideal choice either.
Mi-17 (http://www.thaitrademe.com/classifieds/product_desc.php?id=1736)
2 for 4.2 million dollars. 2 just isn't enough either.

Mudfighter/CAS
PC-7 (http://www.planedesire.com/aircraft/desire/N520WA/details.html)


The price is getting awfully high.
Comedy option:
Mig-21 (http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft-for-sale/MIKOYAN-MIG-21-UM/1974-MIKOYAN-MIG-21-UM/1084742.htm?guid=fd3491bc454e42a38554f24e35f62f2c)

[oscarni]

I have to say amazing, utterly amazing idea! Loving this Thread.

Ok, this is my input, with a 50 mil budget, logistics is going to be a major pain in the ass, firstly I frankly don't think that the funds are going to be there to purchase aircraft outright, second hand or not, I would rather see those funds going to the folks on the ground... so that leaves us with two options: Beg or 'Borrow'

Now lets look at the Beg option first, now frankly, a few countries would love to see the dafur crisis end now but lack the popular support to actually put boots on the ground, the US and UK are two of those, but I want to focus on the US, now we all know that due to the warming of the cold war, alot of "excess" equipment was put out in ready reserve in the arizona desert, these include CAS birds, Huey's, AH-1s and most importantly Herc's. Its an Idea.

Now to the option i actually like ::grins::
As we know in combating a hostile native population air support is going to be key, Afghanistan and somalia has shown us that, now what i propose is taking what we need from a neighboring hostile nation, not Ethiopia hasn't had the best track record in the past for human rights and has some kit that we might like:

MI-6 = 10
MI-8 = 12
MI-24 = 15

Although I would half those numbers as actually serviceable, they also have a few combat transports that could be useful. Ethiopia aren't known for the their air defense network either but we could get some one to "play" with those as well.

Another idea would be taking a trip into russia and picking up a few Mi8's from one of the "dirty" zones in and around chernobal, I do know that there are 8 that they used to monitor raditional levels in and around the site, then there are the 30 or 40 mi-8s parked up in large fields rusting away, maybe a source of free parts? This is me thinking free more than any thing.

The only problem would be a forward operating post, either in a friendly nation or a sort of desert 1 somewhere out in the desert which means tieing down forces to protect it etc

As well i would advise sticking with prop CAS birds, cheaper to operate and less hours needed between service, not to mention that any one with some training can mess with a prop aircraft but it takes hundred of hours to mess with a jet engine.

I have been trying to find sudanese airbases and well its actually harder than i expected, there is a major airbase in Al Khurtum and a small base at Al Fashir, Al Fashir seems to be the only airfield close to the region, maybe a forward operating location? I have seen any fighters so far, only some soviet type canids, an-26's and a 747, there seem to be some heli's in these airfields but i can't make them out, will update soon.

- Phil

[oscarni]

Nyala Airbase, Sudan

- 1 An-24 Coke
- 1 An-26 Curl: Bomber / Transport
- 1 DHC-6
- 1 MI- 8 OR MI-17
- 1 IAR 330 Puma [Not Sure]

3 Unidentifiable helicopters altho, one of the looks alot like the BO 105's

They also seem to have a large 4 engine jet transport it isn't a II-76... maybe a 707 or the soviet copy? not sure

Al Fashir, Sudan
There seems to be a broken up large aircraft, it looks like a multi prop, not sure.

Ok now its a little confusing there appears to be to two Il-76's

- 2 Il-76's
- 2 An-24
- 1 CASA C-212
- 10 MI-8 although the two in camo i believe to be MI17's
- Unidentified single engine prop aircraft

Update!
I have a list of all regional airfields within Sudan and the local countries, with other basic information on them:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p1_2kH1vcZhyy_BDKK9b4VQ
http://www.pilotfriend.com/World%20airfield%20database/airfield%20codes/codes2/Sudan2.htm

[Hellfish]

In case you guys haven't seen it: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=130831

[James]

And with that, we can bid this thread adieu.