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Afro-European
03-21-2008, 04:58 AM
Updated, 2 a.m. | WASHINGTON — The State Department has fired two employees and reprimanded a third for improperly opening electronic information from the passport file of Senator Barack Obama, State Department officials said Thursday night.
On three separate occasions in January, February and March, three employees looked through Mr. Obama’s file in the department’s consular affairs section, violating the department’s privacy rules, the State Department spokesman, Sean D. McCormack, said. Mr. McCormack said the department’s internal controls flagged the breach, which he attributed to “imprudent curiosity.”
State Department officials said that they had no idea why the employees broke into Mr. Obama’s files. The department is continuing to investigate, Mr. McCormack said.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was told of the security breach, which was first reported in The Washington Times on Thursday evening. Mr. McCormack said security measures used to monitor records of high-profile people like Mr. Obama worked properly in the three instances to alert department officials of the breaches.
Mr. Obama’s campaign said that the breaches were reprehensible.
“This is an outrageous breach of security and privacy, even from an administration that has shown little regard for either over the last eight years,” said Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign. “Our government’s duty is to protect the private information of the American people, not use it for political purposes. This is a serious matter that merits a complete investigation, and we demand to know who looked at Senator Obama’s passport file, for what purpose, and why it took so long for them to reveal this security breach.”
Mr. Obama learned of the passport situation while he was flying from West Virginia to Oregon on Thursday night. Aboard his campaign plane, he declined to comment. Upon landing in Portland shortly after 1 a.m. Eastern, he did not make a statement about the incident.
This is the second time that such a breach has occurred at the State Department during a presidential campaign. In 1992, a similar breach took place when State Department officials looked up data on then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton, amid rumors that had tried to renounce his citizenship in order to dodge the draft while he was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford during the Vietnam War.
Patrick F. Kennedy, the under secretary of state for management, said that he and other top officials at the State Department found out about this most recent problem Thursday afternoon, after Mr. McCormack received a telephone query from a reporter who had been alerted of the incident.
“I will fully acknowledge that this information should have been passed up the line,” Mr. Kennedy told reporters Thursday night in a hastily called teleconference. “We have a sophisticated computer tracking system that looks at this when it sees anything that’s inappropriate. But, I will admit, they failed to pass the information up the chain to a sufficiently high level

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/state-dept-punishes-aides-for-obama-passport-breach/#comments


As someone stated it,Watergate began with a low-level burglary. Who knows if this is just a joyride or goes to higher levels?(read his opponents)

Calanen
03-21-2008, 05:49 AM
I guess it depends on whether these guys had orders to look or were just curious. I imagine the latter, because if they were ordered too, nobody would be getting busted and it would be business as usual.

Invisigoth
03-21-2008, 05:54 AM
Wouldn't be the first democrat that happened to, eh? :roll: If they can they're gonna s[ch]mear you like a bagel..


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE0D8143EF936A25753C1A964958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

Afro-European
03-21-2008, 06:16 AM
I guess it depends on whether these guys had orders to look or were just curious. I imagine the latter, because if they were ordered too, nobody would be getting busted and it would be business as usual.

I knew that this sh!t was politically motivated and that there was a Clinton connection to it. Maura Harty, the State Department official in charge of the Bureau Of Consular Affairs during the first two breaches of Obama's passport, had served as an ambassador under Bill Clinton.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/maura-harty-state-depart_n_92693.html

This is Hillary Clinton's "watergates".

gaijinsamurai
03-21-2008, 06:23 AM
Ihe issue of government employees accessing peoples records, either for curiosity or to snoop on neighbors, family members, or people they dislike, is a big one.

When Tonya Harding was sentenced to probation in Oregon, all of us who worked in corrections were specifically warned not to try to access her data base.

Afro-European
03-21-2008, 06:28 AM
Ihe issue of government employees accessing peoples records, either for curiosity or to snoop on neighbors, family members, or people they dislike, is a big one.

When Tonya Harding was sentenced to probation in Oregon, all of us who worked in corrections were specifically warned not to try to access her data base.

Yeah doing such a thing is a violation of the the Privacy Act,isn't it?

Furhter about 2 weeks ago,Hillary Clinton made this comment on Obama:
"As voters evaluate you as a potential Commander-in-Chief, do you think it's legitimate for people to be concerned that you have traveled to only one NATO country, on a brief stopover trip in 2005, and have never traveled to Latin America".
How did she know that?

Invisigoth
03-21-2008, 08:07 AM
Yeah doing such a thing is a violation of the the Privacy Act,isn't it?

Furhter about 2 weeks ago,Hillary Clinton made this comment on Obama:
"As voters evaluate you as a potential Commander-in-Chief, do you think it's legitimate for people to be concerned that you have traveled to only one NATO country, on a brief stopover trip in 2005, and have never traveled to Latin America".
How did she know that?

*knock knock* Hillerbeast, the peoplez want your tax records!

Mastermind
03-21-2008, 10:49 AM
This is absolutely wonderful. Watching the liberal mechanics slash the tires and smear grease on the leather upholstery of the liberal candidates. My God...but I am having a great time this election season.

Now the libs are all wishing Bush had cleared the Klinton leftists out of the State Dept.

But, then of course, they would not have had so much fun with the Valerie Plame fiasco.

Hilarious! Delicious! Delightful!

And I really thought this was going to be miserable for us Vast right wing conservative machine grease monkeys.

Bongopete
03-21-2008, 10:52 AM
So the dems are just as ruthless when it comes to making 'changes' in Washington......who woulda thunk?

Invisigoth
03-21-2008, 12:11 PM
so according to CNN, Condi just told the Hillderbeast that her passport file was also breached in 2007..the plot thickens! p-)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/21/obama.passport/index.html

update: Its getting better and better, now McCain's file was supposedly accessed too. Whose ass is being covered here? Someone in Dubya's administration, Clinton's lackeys? Obama's islamic hordes????

Ahhhh the suspense!

Dragonscript
03-21-2008, 01:45 PM
so according to CNN, Condi just told the Hillderbeast that her passport file was also breached in 2007..the plot thickens! p-)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/21/obama.passport/index.html

update: Its getting better and better, now McCain's file was supposedly accessed too. Whose ass is being covered here? Someone in Dubya's administration, Clinton's lackeys? Obama's islamic hordes????

Ahhhh the suspense!


OR

It could just be some freelancer who is just looking for dirt to make a buck.

Invisigoth
03-21-2008, 01:48 PM
OR

It could just be some freelancer who is just looking for dirt to make a buck.

No! Don't ruin my politico-soap, what else am I gonna watch all summer?

Afro-European
03-21-2008, 06:15 PM
So the dems are just as ruthless when it comes to making 'changes' in Washington......who woulda thunk?

Well when it comes to get to the white house,all means are allowed apparently."Changes" or not.

RussDill
03-21-2008, 07:19 PM
Government workers snooping into private files? Never!

Anyway, I think the stupidest part about the whole thing is this:



The Obama campaign denounced the accessing as "an outrageous breach of security and privacy, even from an Administration that has shown little regard for either over the last eight years."


This is especially intellectually dishonest because the person running the office is a Clinton holdover. And stupid to boot, because he isn't even running against Bush.

I'm sure they would have somehow worked in Karl Rove if they could have.

California Joe
03-21-2008, 08:05 PM
It was some dumbass low level contractors for f*ckssakes. Now it appears that all of the major candidates have been snooped. From both parties. So put away the Bill Clinton appointee tin foil hat bullsh*t.

More than likely it's some asshat looking to give Matt Drudge a scoop...

Calanen
03-21-2008, 08:07 PM
Its happened here in Australia with our version of the IRS. Low level workers sneaking a peak on the rich and famous and their income tax records. Also the cops get busted doing it on occassion, by looking through their COPS database (thats what its called). I think this is another version of this, just some low level people having a look rather than an organised conspiracy.

California Joe
03-21-2008, 08:15 PM
It's happened here with lots of celebrities here like George Clooney etc.... Bill Clinton got snooped way back when, which led to the current security measures that flagged these mopes.

Look, I worked for the Gubmint for 15 years and the idea that some political appointee could engineer a conspiracy or order some lower level GS employee or contractor to do something illegal like this is completely laughable.

cmill
03-22-2008, 06:47 PM
Chief of firm involved in breach is Obama adviser

From Kate Bolduan
CNN


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly looking at the passport files of presidential candidates is a consultant to the Barack Obama campaign, a source said Saturday.


The rest of the story is here.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/22/passport.files/