Canada survive late charge to beat USA in Super Powers Cup r

[EvanL]

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Canadian fly-half Jared Barker scored a try, two conversions and three penalties to help his team to a 23-13 half-time lead ver the US(AFP/File/Peter Parks)
TOKYO (AFP) - Canada survived a second-half fightback by the United States to record a narrow 23-20 win in the four-nation Super Powers Cup rugby tournament.


AFP/File Photo



United States fly-half Mike Hercus missed two penalties in the last minute to put Canada, who failed to score in the second half, into Sunday's final against the winner of Japan and Russia.


Hercus' opposite number Jared Barker was the pick of the Canadians, scoring a try, two conversions and three penalties to help his team to a 23-13 half-time lead.


Barker's third and 13th-minute penalties were matched by Hercus in the 11th and 15th minutes, but Barker then added a third to put the Canadians 9-6 up.


Left-winger Tyler Wish then touched down near the posts after American full-back David Fee was sinbinned in the 20th minute, with Barker adding the conversion.


Hercus pegged back the Canadians with a converted try before Barker beat the US defence to dive over between the posts in the 30th minute.


However, Barker's conversion proved to be Canada's last points of the match as they were pinned down by a gritty United States performance in the second half.


Centre Albert Tuipulotu gave the Americans hope with a try in the 65th minute, which was converted by Hercus.


However, Hercus' two penalty attempts with less than a minute left, both from nearly halfway and close to the left touchline, went wide.






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Strange. We usually wallop the U.S. side.
Maybe our all star Charon was too busy playing club in Europe to come to this tournament.

[Vance]

We play rugby?

[EvanL]

We play rugby?
with a population of almost 300million, you would think you would be able to find good enough players.....so yes. you do have a rugby team. and they are pretty good.

[scm77]

But we're better. woot

[EvanL]

But we're better. woot
Thank you Tucker.

[Jack Mehoff]

It's rugby, who cares http://cieli.altervista.org/faccine/perplesso/00330020.gif

[moughoun]

But we're better. woot

And we are better again ;)

[EvanL]

It's rugby, who cares http://cieli.altervista.org/faccine/perplesso/00330020.gif
Alot more ppl than you would think.
Its more popular than football. But since its not played in the states, "you" dont see its popularity.
try opening up your mind and not being so close minded. you wont come off as such an idiot.
#1 rule on how to gain friends and influence people. p-)

[Jack Mehoff]

It's rugby, who cares http://cieli.altervista.org/faccine/perplesso/00330020.gif
Alot more ppl than you would think.
Its more popular than football. But since its not played in the states, "you" dont see its popularity.
try opening up your mind and not being so close minded. you wont come off as such an idiot.
#1 rule on how to gain friends and influence people. p-)

Didn't you say something about baseball sucks? I remember that. Rugby is as useless in the states as baseball in Canada.

[EvanL]

But we're better. woot

And we are better again ;)
Yep :D

[EvanL]

It's rugby, who cares http://cieli.altervista.org/faccine/perplesso/00330020.gif
Alot more ppl than you would think.
Its more popular than football. But since its not played in the states, "you" dont see its popularity.
try opening up your mind and not being so close minded. you wont come off as such an idiot.
#1 rule on how to gain friends and influence people. p-)

Didn't you say something about baseball sucks? I remember that. Rugby is as useless in the states as baseball in Canada.Onca again, if you thought before you spoke, you would know that baseball is one of the most popular sports in Canada.
And i said baseball sucks, cus it does. I played it for 11years of my life. 8 of which i was an all star pitcher. But its too slow of a game. And i moved on to better sports.

[Jack Mehoff]

It's rugby, who cares http://cieli.altervista.org/faccine/perplesso/00330020.gif
Alot more ppl than you would think.
Its more popular than football. But since its not played in the states, "you" dont see its popularity.
try opening up your mind and not being so close minded. you wont come off as such an idiot.
#1 rule on how to gain friends and influence people. p-)

Maybe you should take your own advice next time :roll:


Ohh no our beloved baseball team.
haha
i could give two ****s about the expos. or baseball for that matter.
Having played for 12 years of my life.
It just bores me to death to watch it now.

[Vance]

It's rugby, who cares http://cieli.altervista.org/faccine/perplesso/00330020.gif
Alot more ppl than you would think.
Its more popular than football. But since its not played in the states, "you" dont see its popularity.
try opening up your mind and not being so close minded. you wont come off as such an idiot.
#1 rule on how to gain friends and influence people. p-)

Didn't you say something about baseball sucks? I remember that. Rugby is as useless in the states as baseball in Canada.Onca again, if you thought before you spoke, you would know that baseball is one of the most popular sports in Canada.
And i said baseball sucks, cus it does.
Oh yeah? I've been playing it for 10, and I think it's the best sport out there.

Opinions are like...well, you know.

[California Joe]

Not to bring up the silly American Football vs. Rugby arguement again as it is incredibly tedious but I figure there are a few thousand college and pro football players in the US that are exceptionally large and fast that might actually do well in the sport of Rugby given the training and incentive to play.

Carrion.

[EvanL]

It's rugby, who cares http://cieli.altervista.org/faccine/perplesso/00330020.gif
Alot more ppl than you would think.
Its more popular than football. But since its not played in the states, "you" dont see its popularity.
try opening up your mind and not being so close minded. you wont come off as such an idiot.
#1 rule on how to gain friends and influence people. p-)

Maybe you should take your own advice next time :roll:


Ohh no our beloved baseball team.
haha
i could give two ****s about the expos. or baseball for that matter.
Having played for 12 years of my life.
It just bores me to death to watch it now.
does it hurt trying to make sense jack?
:cantbeli:

[EvanL]

Not to bring up the silly American Football vs. Rugby arguement again as it is incredibly tedious but I figure there are a few thousand college and pro football players in the US that are exceptionally large and fast that might actually do well in the sport of Rugby given the training and incentive to play.

Carrion.
I agree.
But its mostly been working the other way around.
The NFL has been trying to draft Rugby players into their ranks for a while now.
I believe the Oakland Raiders tried to pay Jonah Loumu, close to 16million a season to play for them, but he turned it down and has since retired due to kidney problems.

[Jack Mehoff]

It's rugby, who cares http://cieli.altervista.org/faccine/perplesso/00330020.gif
Alot more ppl than you would think.
Its more popular than football. But since its not played in the states, "you" dont see its popularity.
try opening up your mind and not being so close minded. you wont come off as such an idiot.
#1 rule on how to gain friends and influence people. p-)

Maybe you should take your own advice next time :roll:


Ohh no our beloved baseball team.
haha
i could give two ****s about the expos. or baseball for that matter.
Having played for 12 years of my life.
It just bores me to death to watch it now.
does it hurt trying to make sense jack?
:cantbeli:

I let people read your own words and decide who is an idiot. :D

[EvanL]

It's rugby, who cares http://cieli.altervista.org/faccine/perplesso/00330020.gif
Alot more ppl than you would think.
Its more popular than football. But since its not played in the states, "you" dont see its popularity.
try opening up your mind and not being so close minded. you wont come off as such an idiot.
#1 rule on how to gain friends and influence people. p-)

Maybe you should take your own advice next time :roll:


Ohh no our beloved baseball team.
haha
i could give two ****s about the expos. or baseball for that matter.
Having played for 12 years of my life.
It just bores me to death to watch it now.
does it hurt trying to make sense jack?
:cantbeli:

I let people read your own words and decide who is an idiot. :D
i still dont see how u think your proving me wrong?
i was badmouthing baseball cus i can.
i have played it for most of my life.
i was calling u closeminded cus you were badmouthing rugby. which is a sport i doubt u have ever played.

[California Joe]

I agree.
But its mostly been working the other way around.
The NFL has been trying to draft Rugby players into their ranks for a while now.
I believe the Oakland Raiders tried to pay Jonah Loumu, close to 16million a season to play for them, but he turned it down and has since retired due to kidney problems.

Doesn't surprise me, he's a great athlete and the Raidahs are unconventional in their hiring practices. NFL players have a different skill set and are probably paid more than the average pro Rugby player which would explain the lack of cross pollenation in that direction. I said average. Plus American Football players are a rather Gung Ho single sport type. Like Marines.

[EvanL]

I agree.
But its mostly been working the other way around.
The NFL has been trying to draft Rugby players into their ranks for a while now.
I believe the Oakland Raiders tried to pay Jonah Loumu, close to 16million a season to play for them, but he turned it down and has since retired due to kidney problems.

Doesn't surprise me, he's a great athlete and the Raidahs are unconventional in their hiring practices. NFL players have a different skill set and are probably paid more than the average pro Rugby player which would explain the lack of cross pollenation in that direction. I said average. Plus American Football players are a rather Gung Ho single sport type. Like Marines.
yeh.
it would be easy to get a running back or tight end to play rugby, but it would be much harder to get say the linebackers. theyre big guys, but lets face it. They wouldnt be able to keep up. You get next to no breaks in rugby, and half the defensive line would be out cold before the first side is done.

[Midav]

We play rugby?
with a population of almost 300million, you would think you would be able to find good enough players.....so yes. you do have a rugby team. and they are pretty good.

With that logic, China and India should be dominant....

[EvanL]

We play rugby?
with a population of almost 300million, you would think you would be able to find good enough players.....so yes. you do have a rugby team. and they are pretty good.

With that logic, China and India should be dominant....
I believe China is trying to take on football (soccer) while India is the powerhouse of field hockey. :P

[California Joe]

I agree.
But its mostly been working the other way around.
The NFL has been trying to draft Rugby players into their ranks for a while now.
I believe the Oakland Raiders tried to pay Jonah Loumu, close to 16million a season to play for them, but he turned it down and has since retired due to kidney problems.

Doesn't surprise me, he's a great athlete and the Raidahs are unconventional in their hiring practices. NFL players have a different skill set and are probably paid more than the average pro Rugby player which would explain the lack of cross pollenation in that direction. I said average. Plus American Football players are a rather Gung Ho single sport type. Like Marines.
yeh.
it would be easy to get a running back or tight end to play rugby, but it would be much harder to get say the linebackers. theyre big guys, but lets face it. They wouldnt be able to keep up. You get next to no breaks in rugby, and half the defensive line would be out cold before the first side is done.

See, you had to go there.... They train for a specific job in a specific sport. I've played rugby, wing and fly half. I'm too small to do anything else. I played wide reciever in HS. Linebackers today are huge and very fast, as are Corners and Safeties. We aren't talking Offensive Linemen here. Great athletes are great athletes.

[Aussie E]

Rugby Rules. It is played at a national level more than any sport other than soccer. There is a large rugby following in the US. Many colleges have teams and there are some large tournaments. Two of the power houses here in the US are OMBAC (San Diego) and The Gentlemen of Aspen. Both have won the national title multiply times. More people watched the World Cup final world wide last year than the Superbowl/World Series/NBA Finals and Stanley Cup (which isn't even on regular TV in the US) combined. It's a shame that any sport that didn't originate in the US is seen as inferior.

[EvanL]

I agree.
But its mostly been working the other way around.
The NFL has been trying to draft Rugby players into their ranks for a while now.
I believe the Oakland Raiders tried to pay Jonah Loumu, close to 16million a season to play for them, but he turned it down and has since retired due to kidney problems.

Doesn't surprise me, he's a great athlete and the Raidahs are unconventional in their hiring practices. NFL players have a different skill set and are probably paid more than the average pro Rugby player which would explain the lack of cross pollenation in that direction. I said average. Plus American Football players are a rather Gung Ho single sport type. Like Marines.
yeh.
it would be easy to get a running back or tight end to play rugby, but it would be much harder to get say the linebackers. theyre big guys, but lets face it. They wouldnt be able to keep up. You get next to no breaks in rugby, and half the defensive line would be out cold before the first side is done.

See, you had to go there.... They train for a specific job in a specific sport. I've played rugby, wing and fly half. I'm too small to do anything else. I played wide reciever in HS. Linebackers today are huge and very fast, as are Corners and Safeties. We aren't talking Offensive Linemen here. Great athletes are great athletes.
no no no cali, i wasnt meaning to go there.
i am not underestimating the players.
its two different sports, with two different styles of play.

[California Joe]

Rugby Rules. It is played at a national level more than any sport other than soccer. There is a large rugby following in the US. Many colleges have teams and there are some large tournaments. Two of the power houses here in the US are OMBAC (San Diego) and The Gentlemen of Aspen. Both have won the national title multiply times. More people watched the World Cup final world wide last year than the Superbowl/World Series/NBA Finals and Stanley Cup (which isn't even on regular TV in the US) combined. It's a shame that any sport that didn't originate in the US is seen as inferior.

My point was that if Notre Dame and USC and Miami and Oklahoma and Nebraska etc. suspended their college football programs in favor of Rugby scholarships there would be an unbelievable upswing in US standing in the World Cup.

[Midav]

We play rugby?
with a population of almost 300million, you would think you would be able to find good enough players.....so yes. you do have a rugby team. and they are pretty good.

With that logic, China and India should be dominant....
I believe China is trying to take on football (soccer) while India is the powerhouse of field hockey. :P

Exactly my point. They aren't dominant in sporting events, sans a couple of school games ;)

[Aussie E]

Rugby Rules. It is played at a national level more than any sport other than soccer. There is a large rugby following in the US. Many colleges have teams and there are some large tournaments. Two of the power houses here in the US are OMBAC (San Diego) and The Gentlemen of Aspen. Both have won the national title multiply times. More people watched the World Cup final world wide last year than the Superbowl/World Series/NBA Finals and Stanley Cup (which isn't even on regular TV in the US) combined. It's a shame that any sport that didn't originate in the US is seen as inferior.

My point was that if Notre Dame and USC and Miami and Oklahoma and Nebraska etc. suspended their college football programs in favor of Rugby scholarships there would be an unbelievable upswing in US standing in the World Cup.
I wasn't posting this to refute anyones points. I didn't even read most of the sh*t flinging post. It was just my two pence. Many colleges in the US have rugby teams. I know that Stanford, Cal Lutherian, UC Irvine and more colleges back east have rugby teams. It's big in Utah with the Islanders, Los Angeles has a league (played a couple of games and tournaments with Eagle Rock as No.8/Flanker). Each champion of there local league goes on to play the national tournament. All I was saying is that RUGBY RULES!
www.rugby.com.au<---Australian site.
http://www.rugbyrugby.com/COUNTRY_BY_COUNTRY/USA/index.shtml<--- USA site.

[California Joe]

No one is really **** flinging. My point is the pool of potential great rugby players in the US is drained because of our national obsession with football. I played a couple of years in a Washington DC league. It was fun.

[Aussie E]

I think Jack and Evan were flinging. ;)

[moughoun]

Back to the NFL trying to get Rugby player's, the Dolphin's last year tried to get our best player Brian O'Driscoll to play for them and I'm telling you would have been extreamly impressed with him, he would have run ring's around alot of the team's there :D

[Midtown]

Hoooockeeyyy-yyy

[Aussie E]

http://www.usarugby.org/<--- Official US Rugby Site Tons of Info
http://www.usarugby.org/collegiate/play/scholarship.html college scholarships

[Threelions]

I cant wait till next month. The yanks, Maori's, Canadaians and england will all be playing right here in Calgary!! Last year i caught the Maori's game here, and they are alot of fun to watch! They tore Canada up pretty bad, but thats to be expected i suppose!!

Cheers

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[moughoun]

I cant wait till next month. The yanks, Maori's, Canadaians and england will all be playing right here in Calgary!! Last year i caught the Maori's game here, and they are alot of fun to watch! They tore Canada up pretty bad, but thats to be expected i suppose!!

Cheers

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOOO, ****off Johnny BOOOOOOOOOOO :lol:

[moughoun]

Your going to make us relive that for the next 50 year's just like the 66 world cup :fork:

[Salty Dog]

We play rugby?

......i was wondering the same thing.

[Mark Sman]

national obsession with football

I wouldn't call it an obsession. Just because its the greatest thing ever invented anyhwere at any time and rules over all lesser undertakings with omnipotent might is no reason to call it an obsession.

[Mark Sman]

A friend of mine played rugby, as well as football of course.

He said the rugby guys used to deal with the football players by running away from them for the first ten minutes, and running around them for the rest of the game.

He loved it though, he liked being able to hit someone and then not having to wait to hit them again. With a little more time on the track and less in the weight room he probably would have really gotten into the game.

Now Australian rules football, that looks like fun. Typical Aussie craziness.

[Threelions]

I cant wait till next month. The yanks, Maori's, Canadaians and england will all be playing right here in Calgary!! Last year i caught the Maori's game here, and they are alot of fun to watch! They tore Canada up pretty bad, but thats to be expected i suppose!!

Cheers

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/2798478.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DEDB5E5442EF167AAD7B55F6861927B4A3

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOOO, f*** Johnny BOOOOOOOOOOO :lol:

Damn straight!!! Or untill we win it again in a few years! You know what they say, If your going to F**k Australia use a Jonny!!

Cheers

[Threelions]

A friend of mine played rugby, as well as football of course.

He said the rugby guys used to deal with the football players by running away from them for the first ten minutes, and running around them for the rest of the game.

He loved it though, he liked being able to hit someone and then not having to wait to hit them again. With a little more time on the track and less in the weight room he probably would have really gotten into the game.

Now Australian rules football, that looks like fun. Typical Aussie craziness.

Aussie rules is a lame ass game! You can only tackle at gut level! Its not all its cracked up to be. Your best to just stick with Union.

Cheers

[Aussie E]

Aussie Rules SUCKS: known as arial ping-pong by locals (nice shorts!) :roll: what type of game requires you to bounce the ball ever so many steps and pass by punching the ball?
Greatest sports in order:
Rugby Union
Shooting Sports
Rugby League
Cricket
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[Threelions]

Aussie Rules SUCKS: known as arial ping-pong by locals (nice shorts!) :roll:
Greatest sports in order:
Rugby Union
Shooting Sports
Rugby League
Cricket
.
.
.
.
.
.

Well said!! But your list is a bit off.
Football (soccer)
Union
Cricket
Ice Hockey

Cheers