comment on tibet event from a Spaniards and an Englishman

[blackrosebin]

I have been waiting for this day for a long time. In the passed 20 days I can't
post any new threads,I can't post any replies either. why and who deprived of my right to freedom of expression ? Did I do sth wrong ? Did i endangered national security of the USA ? I dont think so . so ,this is the so- called expression freedom ?
OK，Garrulous is garrulous alfter all.Dont mind my stupid words. I think at least i have the right to Vent my anger.Here i apologize to those guys who gave replies to my posted threads and who asked me to give answers to their questions. I want to reply you ,but i can't.

This time i want to copy a thread which is posted in the ANTI-CNN website from a Spaniards and a reply from an English.Maybe someone would say that these two guys are Traitors of western ,what they said don't reflect the authenticity of the West.But i think at least there are one or two facts they said is true and this one or two facts are worth thinking for you.
You guys always say that we have been brainwashed.Maybe you youself should take a think of that who are exatly brainwashed on earth.
By the way ,if you cant see any new threads and replies,don't suprised


Following is the original content
Hello, I'm a Westerner . Writing from Spain. I'm a fan of China, I love

your beautiful country so much. I study Chinese and I'd like to live in

China for some years. I comdemn these Tibetan TERRORISTS who are killing

Han people. I hate terrorists, my country has suffered terrorism too.

Blame those murderers!!! Big support!! I'm so sad because 99% of people in

my homeland are totally brainwashed against China. If you love your

country you have to do a big effort to show the truth to the whole

mankind. Notice that in most Western TV channels all images about

separatist violence are CENSORED, people don't know anything about this.

The TV tell us that all killed demonstrators are Tibetans killed by the

Chinese army. They sometimes say that mobs are doing bad things, but they

pay so little attention to that fact that most people miss it. What

everybody is keeping in mind is that Dalai rioters are peaceful people

being oppressed by Chinese army. They also say that Tibet was invaded by

Mao Zedong, as if it hadn't been a part of China ever before.They tell so

many lies, you can't imagine. All the time! This is an international

complot against China. In my opinion our governors are educating the

masses to hate China, there isn't any other reason as far as I can

imagine. They want all Westerns to believe that China is an evil empire, a

giant version of North Korea. Deal with this, the West hates China. I'm

sorry to say this, but that's the truth. Most people used to think that

China is an amazing country with its old culture, etc. We are missing all

that. Now we are being educated to think that China is only bad things. We

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER watch good news from China. Only bad things, totally

biased. Deal with it, and get used to this hate asap, because we can't

stop it. I really think that the West is a threat for China, you better

get used to that. The dream of the Western governments is seeing China

totally destroyed, seeing Chinese economy ****ed so that your country stay

poor forever and the West can go on eating all the resources in earth. The

West doesn't want to share wealth with 1300M Chinese, that's why our

governments want to **** China. PS: Please write in English. Chinese

people know the truth already, no need to explain. Now you have to tell

the truth to the rest of mankind, but nobody will learn anything if you

write in your language.

another reply:
I agree with everything you said. The problem is that Spanish people don't

have a real opinion about anything. They just sit in front of the TV and

listen what they guy says, that's how they "learn" about the world. If the

guy says that China has killed 1 million Tibetans, they'll believe it all.

It is the same in most Western countries, but here it looks to be much

worse. Western Democracy kills people's brain. We are supposed to live in

absolute "freedom". So... why should we doubt about our system? Isn't it

perfect freedom?? We are supposed to live in absolute "freedom of speech".

So... why should we doubt about what we read/watch on our "free media"?

Etc, etc. Democracy has become a religion, and everybody must trust the

democratic system, the tv and the newspapers. If you don't... you hate

freedom, lol. That's why it is so easy to make the whole society to hate

China. Fortunately, a very few of us love something out of the West too

much, so that we can see that everything is a huge lie. In my case, I love

China. Reading a lot about China and talking to Chinese friends made me

seeing my Western world with another perspective. I realized tha the West

isn't better than China. The only difference is that we are economically

developed. We are developed thanks to market economy, not thanks to

democracy. Market economy makes countries rich, not democracy. After

visiting China for study, I saw that people there has the same freedom as

us. Maybe even more, as you can walk around at nights in China. In the

West, you might be killed thanks to huge crime rates. Also, there is so

few drugs in China. In the West, kills are offered all kind of drugs at

school!! This is our Freedom!! In China you see so little violence on the

TV. In the West, families (parents, kids, elders) enjoy their dinner while

they watch terrible movies where people are raped, killed, etc with a lot

of blood!! That's why Westerners love wars and violence so much, because

we are educated to accept all violence as normal on the TV every day.

After China becomes a developed country, many, many Westerners will move

to China, you'll see... I'll move to China as soon as I finish my studies

if I can. After some years, I'm starting to feel something special. China

is not only as good as the Western democracy, it might be even better.

China is growing fast, developing fast, you have so many problems, I know.

China has many huge problems, yea. But almost every big problem in China

is caused by undevelopment, right? When you become a rich country almost

every serious problem will be solved, true?. Anyway, in almost every

aspect China is far better than any "democratic" country with a similar

level of development (India, Latin America,etc). I'm starting to believe

that when China becomes a rich country it will be much better than the

West in most aspects too. Listen to me, Chinese friends. Our "freedom" is

a lie. In every Western country, most youngs take drugs and drink every

weekend. Crime is huge. People don't have any hope in the future. We know

we are rich thanks to what we stole to the rest of the world in the last

century. We know that after 50 years we will be nothing because China and

other countries are growing a lot. Our system doesn't work, it is a big

lie, and nobody dares to speak and even to think about changing our

beloved democracy. In Europe people don't have kids, we wil be a continent

of elders by 2050. Many foreigners are coming from everywhere, otherwise

our countries would collapse. There is a lot of racism growing everywhere.

When muslims want to build a temple, there are violent riots. Some

European countries (including mine) want to BAN muslim clothes so that

muslum girls can't cover their hair. Is this freedom? In China nobody

would ban this, never! Western freedom is a huge lie. Democracy is a huge

lie. Just because we enclose a paper in a box once every 4 years we

haven't more freedom than China. Please don't believe this, if China

becomes a Western style democracy you'll kill China, you'll kill your

country. Democracy looks like old Communism, when you read about it, it is

wonderful, but in the real world it is ****. We don't have real freedom,

we don't have anything, just propaganda. Just look at Taiwan province. In

Taiwan they have Western democracy, now Taiwan is crazy, they have fights

in the parliament like kids, they had a xenophobic president for years who

banned immigrants from the Mainland and **ed the economy. And 3 million

Taiwanese moved to the Mainland, which is poorer!!! Isn't this crazy???

People use to move to richer places, not reverse! That shows you what

would happen if the whole China had Western democracy. Self destruction!!!

I don't know how to explain the proportions of the Democracy myth. It is

exactly like Communist Russia. It looks powerful from outside and inside,

Russian people believed that their Communism was great too just until a

few months before it collapsed. It is the same in the West. Everything is

a big lie. And you know we are starting a huge economic crisis, while

China keeps growing 10%! I don't know what will happen, I hope I can move

to Shanghai soon. I'll tell you something about economic development. The

West has a huge recent past about economic wealth, and no future. China is

the opposite. This century is yours, not only because you are growing, but

because we have no future. I only hope the Western governors dont try to

sink China too so that the West doesn't sink alone.

reply from an English:
I am a westerner too 。I want to tell you all that

not all Western people are ignorant. I am from the UK and I am appalled at

the bias of the Western media. I expect it from FOX or Sky News but not

from supposedly "impartial" news agencies like the BBC and CNN. ) [- O* N(

F8 _, t Tibetans are murdering innocent Chinese people just because they

live there, yet there are still pro-Tibet demonstrations in western

cities. It seems that they are FOR murder? And then the Chinese police

arrive and try to stop the riots, get rocks thrown at them, some badly

injured or killed, and the Western media says it is a "brutal crackdown"?0

F0 ?& A" h1 j, |" \' E* E7 R- W me, what would happen if riots like this

happened in the USA? Oh wait, it DID happen, the 1992 Los Angeles riots

are one. AND the 1999 WTO riots in Seattle. And did the police come in

riot gear and start shooting tear gas and rubber bullets? YES. And was

this called a brutal crackdown? NO. We have a word for them: hypocrites.

And they moan about human rights. Yet even now the people who are native

to the American continent - Native Americans - are a minority. Their

culture has been destroyed and they were herded like sheep into

reservations. The USA invaded Iraq because God told George Bush to get

more oil, and now look, millions of INNOCENT Iraqi people have been

killed. Also the British Empire had millions of slaves and "colonised"

(invaded) countries. U( s2 T. S" C; c2 G5 l- a: u What's funny is that

there are people waving around Tibetan flags in London but they don't even

know the whole story. They are ignorant, they think what they are doing is

right but of course they don't know the truth of some Tibetan's disgusting

actions because of the bias in the media.7 P8 U7 U! I# ]4 [; e+ y. D So I

hope that Chinese people don't think all Westerners are ignorant or

arrogant. Some of us actually have a brain to think, and eyes to see what

is really happening.

[PeterG]

Following is the original content
Hello, I'm a Westerner . Writing from Spain. I'm a fan of China, I love

your beautiful country so much. I study Chinese and I'd like to live in

China for some years. I comdemn these Tibetan TERRORISTS who are killing

Han people.


Yes, this looks really genuine. You have convinced me now, that Dalai Lama is a bloodthirsty terrorist. :roll:

[blackrosebin]

Yes, this looks really genuine. You have convinced me now, that Dalai Lama is a bloodthirsty terrorist. :roll:
I never said that dalai is a bloodthirsty terrorist.i just want to tell you that there are still a lot of facts and history event you dont know or be familiar with and what you listened or saw may be wrong.
if you dont believe ,just say out ,you dont need to pretend to be convinced with such a disgussing attitude.

[Calanen]

Yes, I spoke to a man in Swaziland who had dialled my telephone number by mistake, and he offered his opinion that China loves Tibet and evil western imperialist media is cursing good loving china.

And then just the other day, I was on the bus trip to Dubbo, and an elderly lady said the same thing 'Did you hear that people in Swaziland as well, know the truth about the evil imperialist western media defaming China in Tibet?' I said yes I did, I spoke to a man in Swaziland just the other day.

Almost at the same time, I received an SMS from the real Dalai Lama himself, who was saying that the Dalai Lama in the Western media is just a puppet for evil George Bush imperialist government, but that the real one loves China and thanks it for all the good things it has done in Tibet.

Im convinced, how about you all?

[Lazy Lob]

Yes, I spoke to a man in Swaziland who had dialled my telephone number by mistake, and he offered his opinion that China loves Tibet and evil western imperialist media is cursing good loving china.

And then just the other day, I was on the bus trip to Dubbo, and an elderly lady said the same thing 'Did you hear that people in Swaziland as well, know the truth about the evil imperialist western media defaming China in Tibet?' I said yes I did, I spoke to a man in Swaziland just the other day.

Almost at the same time, I received an SMS from the real Dalai Lama himself, who was saying that the Dalai Lama in the Western media is just a puppet for evil George Bush imperialist government, but that the real one loves China and thanks it for all the good things it has done in Tibet.

Im convinced, how about you all?


You've done it for me, hook line and sinker.

[blackrosebin]

Yes, this looks really genuine. You have convinced me now, that Dalai Lama is a bloodthirsty terrorist. :roll:
when dalai left China in 1959,he is only 19 years old.do you think it was that he who chose to leave china? NO,at that time he was too young to make decision by himself.He just a Puppet.You must notice that tibet was is a slave society before 1954,more reactionary than the Middle Ages.
Communist Party want to abolish the slavery such to damage the rule of the Dalai Lama and other rulers's interests. So this is the origin of the problem in tibet and the problem between china government and dalai lama.
Now almost 50years have been passed since dalai left tibet of china.He can't
Represent the interests of 5416000 tibetan(in 2000) in china,he only on the behalf of Tibetans in exile and the former rulers at the upper levels.
By the way ,in 1959 there were only 970,000 tibetan in tibet province ,now there are about 2,620,000 tibetan in tibet ,taking 92% of the total population in tibet.

[blackrosebin]

Yes, I spoke to a man in Swaziland who had dialled my telephone number by mistake, and he offered his opinion that China loves Tibet and evil western imperialist media is cursing good loving china.

And then just the other day, I was on the bus trip to Dubbo, and an elderly lady said the same thing 'Did you hear that people in Swaziland as well, know the truth about the evil imperialist western media defaming China in Tibet?' I said yes I did, I spoke to a man in Swaziland just the other day.

Almost at the same time, I received an SMS from the real Dalai Lama himself, who was saying that the Dalai Lama in the Western media is just a puppet for evil George Bush imperialist government, but that the real one loves China and thanks it for all the good things it has done in Tibet.

Im convinced, how about you all?
I think you are crazy!Have you taken medicine today?

[Switek]

Hello, I'm a Westerner . Writing from Spain. I'm a fan of China, I love ...

This post is one big fake. Seems as usual Chinese made. No one from so called West would name himself a "Westerner". This clue generally does not exist in conscience of people from the "West"

[gregoralex]

I think it's a fake,anti-cnn is a shame.

[timetraveller]

Only a few occasions i have the misfortune of reading such utter tripe ..

I watched Dispatches last night on channel 4 that was broadcasted in the early hours of this morning .. They showed footage taken by climbers who filmed Border guards shooting Tibetans making there way over the Mountains to Freedom ..

[Herman the II]

This post is one big fake. Seems as usual Chinese made. No one from so called West would name himself a "Westerner". This clue generally does not exist in conscience of people from the "West"


LoL, first I thought blackrosebin made the initial post to make fun about the Chinese propaganda machine. Later realized I was wrong though... rofl

[gregoralex]

I tried to tell our inner-forum this fake,but I cant post a thread but only in reply in some irrelevant thread.

[Billy No Mates]

I believe in the veracity of blackrosebins post from the very heart of my bottom...

[Ichhabe]

If that garbage is not written by a Chineese, I' going to move to China myself.

[blackrosebin]

I think it's a fake,anti-cnn is a shame.
anti-cnn is not a shame ,cnn itself is a shame.if you are free,welcome to this
website (www.anti-cnn.com) sorry that you can't read chinese.
you will definitely be said that this website must be a propaganda tool of the Chinese government! When can you understand that ordinary Chinese people have real ideas, but also the right to express themselves ?

[blackrosebin]

If that garbage is not written by a Chineese, I' going to move to China myself.
If you must think that way,i can't stop you .Even if it is really true，i also welcome you to go to china ,go to tibet.
whether this thread was written by westerner is not so important ,What really the most important is the content of this thread.

[gregoralex]

anti-cnn is not a shame ,cnn itself is a shame.if you are free,welcome to this
website (www.anti-cnn.com (http://www.anti-cnn.com)) sorry that you can't read chinese.
you will definitely be said that this website must be a propaganda tool of the Chinese government! When can you understand that ordinary Chinese people have real ideas, but also the right to express themselves ?

Hi,I am a Chinese too,I have been to the anti-cnn,I feel its very hard for those ordinary Chinese have different idea to express on there.Now in Cat898 you can have a pro-China thread about Tibet ,but most of the replys are againist the poster,but it cant last for long,very soon the thread will get locked,and in those day no thread about Tibet could be discussed,now we can discuss a bit,but I dont think it is anything serious debate,for everyone knows the thread doomed to get locked sooner or later,and this is happening every hour.

[blackrosebin]

This post is one big fake. Seems as usual Chinese made. No one from so called West would name himself a "Westerner". This clue generally does not exist in conscience of people from the "West"
English is not the Native language of Spaniards,so this Spaniards is probably like we chinese using "westerner".As for that British guy,who knows he is a native englishman or not.Maybe he is a Immigrants from other country.
i still insist that whether this thread was written by westerner is not so important ,What really the most important is the content of this thread.

[gregoralex]

If you must think that way,i can't stop you .Even if it is really true，i also welcome you to go to china ,go to tibet.
whether this thread was written by westerner is not so important ,What really the most important is the content of this thread.

No,blackrosebin,you are wrong.whether its written by westerner is more important than the content.Because that is a credit failure.Who will believe it if its a credit failure?

[gregoralex]

Can I say whether those people are Nepals or Tibetan is not important,what happened there is the most important?

[Buckeye67]

Ok, one sec. I'm going to turn over my keyboard to a chinese friend of mine from Beijing.

.....................


Hello to you all I am easterner from China. I writing in english so that all american will know truth about Tibet. I am supporting Tibetan protestors against totalitarian chinese government abusivenesses. Tibet should being free and independent country and China should not be making persecutions on innocent peace loving people of Tibet.

Ok, I am turning keyboard over to my american friend. Thanking you all, I want truth about Tibet to be know by all!

...................

Well there you go, straight from the fingertips of a very real chinese person.

[blackrosebin]

Hi,I am a Chinese too,I have been to the anti-cnn,I feel its very hard for those ordinary Chinese have different idea to express on there.In Cat898 sometimes you can have a pro-China thread about Tibet,but most of the replys are againist the poster,but it cant last for long,very soon the thread will get locked,and in those day no thread about Tibet could be discussed,now we can discuss a bit,but I dont think it is anything serious debate,for everyone knows the thread doomed to get locked sooner or later,and this is happening every hour.
我不知道你说的是否真实，即便真实我觉得也可以理解。我平时也不怎么去这个网站，这篇文章我也是从中华网论坛上转来的，但是我也是确实了这篇文章的真实性才转的，这是原文网址http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/viewthread.php?tid=30&page=1&authorid=360
我平时都是在中华网军事论坛闲逛，如果你真有兴趣，我推荐你到这个网站看看，或许会有收获。http://military.club.china.com/

[gaijinsamurai]

Buckeye's friend must be a puppet of the Imperialist slave-masters, and a capitalist running dog!

Blackrosebin, I want to thank you and Chairman Mao for liberating the Chinese proletariat from the chains of slavery and the demonic Dalai Lama.

Calenen, take your medicine.

[Herman the II]

我不知道你说的是否真实，即便真实我觉得也可以理解。我平时也不怎么去这个网站，这篇文章我也是从中华网论坛上转来的，但是我也是确实了这篇文章的真实性才转的，这是原文网址http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/viewthread.php?tid=30&page=1&authorid=360
我平时都是在中华网军事论坛闲逛，如果你真有兴趣，我推荐你到这个网站看看，或许会有收获。http://military.club.china.com/

google rocks...

I do not know whether you said the truth, even if true, I feel that we can understand that. I do not how to this website, the article I was transferred from the CDC to the forum, but I also did the article before transferring to the authenticity, which is the original site http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/viewthread.php?tid=30&page=1&authorid=360 I peacetime military are in the CDC Forum stroll, if you are really interested, I recommend that you look at this site, it might be harvested. Http://military.club.china.com/

[gregoralex]

我不知道你说的是否真实，即便真实我觉得也可以理解。我平时也不怎么去这个网站，这篇文章我也是从中华网论坛上转来的，但是我也是确实了这篇文章的真实性才转的，这是原文网址http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/viewthread.php?tid=30&page=1&authorid=360
我平时都是在中华网军事论坛闲逛，如果你真有兴趣，我推荐你到这个网站看看，或许会有收获。http://military.club.china.com/

You said you transfer it here after you confirm its origin youself,tell me how?I dont believe it.How can you confirm??

[Switek]

English is not the Native language of Spaniards,so this Spaniards is probably like we chinese using "westerner".As for that British guy,who knows he is a native englishman or not.Maybe he is a Immigrants from other country.
i still insist that whether this thread was written by westerner is not so important ,What really the most important is the content of this thread.


The "merit" of the post is caused by who wrote it. It could be a poser or immigrant with Spanish citizenship but no way by the anyone who's aware of western identity. Couse people here do not care about it.

[Buckeye67]

Buckeye's friend must be a puppet of the Imperialist slave-masters, and a capitalist running dog!


I am Buckeye chinese friend again. I am not puppet of dogs, I am true chinese person from China. People of Tibet should not be under China government. I also have great respecting for Dalai Lama. I am friend of japanese people too. I always watch Iron Chef America when Iron Chef Morimoto is on.

FREE TIBET! ALLEZ CUISINE!

[blackrosebin]

This is the origin website of this thread,most the words are english.whether these two guys are westerner or not ,you can make a judgement
http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/thread-30-1-1.html

[gregoralex]

This is the origin website of this thread,most the words are english.whether these two guys are westerner or not ,you can make a judgement
http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/thread-30-1-1.html

I know the origin website.Another guy has already told us in another thread here very earlier.I am asking about the origin of the writter,how can you confirm its authentity just because it's from anti-CNN?

[blackrosebin]

You said you transfer it here after you confirm its origin youself,tell me how?I dont believe it.How can you confirm??
sorry for my carelessness.I mean i have confirm this thread is truely existing in the anti-cnn website,not a fake made by a Netizen in zhonghua website.
Maybe you can discover that my english is just so so.sometimes i feel that it is really very difficult for me to debate to the native westerners.

[miguelencanarias]

Well, I am a Spaniard, and I am calling this fake because no Spaniard, regardless of how bad his English is, would write like that (as in like a 5 year-old kid high on candy). This sounds like a Chinese writing in English.

[Lazy Lob]

English is not the Native language of Spaniards,so this Spaniards is probably like we chinese using "westerner".


Spaniards would use the word "occidental" and not "westernerererer".

[STIG]

If you must think that way,i can't stop you .Even if it is really true，i also welcome you to go to china ,go to tibet.
whether this thread was written by westerner is not so important ,What really the most important is the content of this thread.

I wanted to go to Tibet. The Chicomm consulate didn't grant me a visa. They said I was going to indulge in anti China activities in Tibet...a convenient excuse to keep people out..no?

[ren0312]

The "merit" of the post is caused by who wrote it. It could be a poser or immigrant with Spanish citizenship but no way by the anyone who's aware of western identity. Couse people here do not care about it.

Why do not Westerners care about their identity, are they ashamed of their culture and who they are, do not they think that Western civilization is something that is worth preserving?

[blackrosebin]

I wanted to go to Tibet. The Chicomm consulate didn't grant me a visa. They said I was going to indulge in anti China activities in Tibet...a convenient excuse to keep people out..no?
Maybe it is because now it is a sensitive time .I suggest to you that you can come to china in August when Olympic games is holding.And you can also go to tibet or other province on your convenience .i promise you won't feel disappointed.

[Switek]

Why do not Westerners care about their identity, are they ashamed of their culture and who they are, do not they think that Western civilization is something that is worth preserving?


Couse something like Western identity does not exist. This term is completely empty here. We, in Europe have just started to build an European identity. So far all of us have been Spaniard, Italian, British, Polish, German, American, Canadian but no way "Westerners". Do you take this difference?

Even me as a Polish i feel a Greaterpolander a guy from Greater Poland - an historic and administrative region.

[gaijinsamurai]

I am Chinese friend of Gaijinsamurai, writing on his computer. I want to take this opportunity to say that there are many of us in China who love the people of Tibet and Japan, and want our government to cease the occupation of the land we invaded and annexed illegally. We are ashamed of our government's actions, and don't feel we deserve to host the Olympics.

Oh, and by the way, we really don't mind if Taiwan becomes a fully-independent country, and wish our government would accept it as a reality.

(Thanks, Gaijinsamurai, for letting me use your computer to write this message)


Note: the above remarks by my Chinese friend do not necessarily reflect my own opinions.

[theholeinthedonut]

Sometimes I wonder what the chinese are thinking to achieve? Do they really hope somebody will buy their cheap agitprop? This must be the crudest and most diletant propaganda effort in the history of mankind. At least in my case I can say that it backfired, where as a few month ago I thought that the best way to deal with China was a course of cooperation and I was convinced that there was hope for change now I'm getting rabbidly anti-chinese and it gets worse the more I read this kind of crap.

EDIT: Oh, and blackrosebin: I've seen a lot of governement money being wasted, but your and all your colleagues salary is the most gargantuan waste of public fundings up to date, you would be more productive cleaning the windows in the propaganda ministry building.

[gaijinsamurai]

Sometimes I wonder what the chinese are thinking to achieve? Do they really hope somebody will buy their cheap agitprop? This must be the crudest and most diletant propaganda effort in the history of mankind. At least in my case I can say that it backfired, where as a few month ago I thought that the best way to deal with China was a course of cooperation and I was convinced that there was hope for change now I'm getting rabbidly anti-chinese and it gets worse the more I read this kind of crap.

EDIT: Oh, and blackrosebin: I've seen a lot of governement money being wasted, but your and all your colleagues salary is the most gargantuan waste of public fundings up to date, you would be more productive cleaning the windows in the propaganda ministry building.

Quoted for truth.

[Mr.Flint]

Maybe it is because now it is a sensitive time .I suggest to you that you can come to china in August when Olympic games is holding.And you can also go to tibet or other province on your convenience .i promise you won't feel disappointed.
China refused to give me a free ticket to the olympics, even though they happen to have on the exact day and time i was born.
i could bring luck to it, more number 8's, but now all im doing is evil eye on China. China Bad. Free Tibet.


Non chinese Westernerrer


the written above is partially true... the part about my birthday atleast, but who knows maybe one of these as*holes cant get me a free ticket....