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I can't think of a name
04-05-2008, 03:18 PM
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-venez5apr05,1,3879299.story?track=rss


MEXICO CITY -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is planning a government takeover of his country's cement industry, his latest effort to impose state control over key sectors of an economy battered by shortages and inflation.

Chavez made the declaration during a televised cabinet meeting late Thursday. He has long accused foreign cement companies of keeping prices high and supplies tight by exporting their products to other countries while Venezuela is suffering a housing shortage.

"We're going to nationalize the cement industry. Enough already!" Chavez said.

The action is a blow to Monterrey, Mexico-based Cemex, the largest producer in Venezuela. Industry companies LaFarge of France and Switzerland's Holcim Ltd. would also be affected.

Chavez's government said it soon would begin compensation talks with the firms. But Mexico's Finance Minister Agustin Carstens on Friday condemned Venezuela's move against one of Mexico's largest and most successful multinational companies.

"Certainly it's an inadequate action, an action that doesn't respect the property and the rights of Mexicans," Carstens said.

Cemex's U.S.-traded shares fell $1.16, or 4.2%, to $26.32 on fears that the company might not be adequately compensated for its Venezuelan assets.

The pending nationalization extends a spate of takeovers initiated by Chavez to redistribute wealth to the poor. His government has doled out land, slapped price controls on all manner of consumer goods, formed worker cooperatives and wrested control of private industries deemed strategic to the nation.

Since last year, Chavez has forced foreign oil companies to cede control of major oil fields, renationalized the telephone company CANTV and expropriated the assets of the electricity sector. Meanwhile, he has funneled billions in oil revenue to social programs.

Supporters credit Chavez with reducing poverty and boosting health and literacy in the South American nation of 26 million. Critics say his economic meddling has fueled inflation and created shortages of basic goods such as meat, milk and sugar.

Chavez, in turn, has blamed speculators and unscrupulous business owners for creating artificial shortages to drive up prices. The president in recent months had singled out cement makers for particular criticism.

Cemex controls about half the market in Venezuela. It operates three plants with a capacity of 4.6 million metric tons per year. Those operations employ 3,000 workers and generated about $400 million in sales last year, or about 2% of the company's 2007 revenue, according to Cemex spokesman Jorge Perez Aguirre.

Perez said that Venezuela's government has not notified Cemex of any nationalization action, and that the company has requested a meeting with officials to clarify the situation. He would not comment on the company's pricing or export policies.

Holcim and LaFarge each operate two plants in Venezuela with a total capacity of about 4.5 million metric tons. Some observers are dubious that government officials will be able to manage the cement industry more efficiently than the private sector has done.

Critics blame the Chavez administration for woes at the state-owned oil company Petroleos de Venezuela. Known as PDVSA, the firm has struggled to maintain production since 2003, when Chavez fired thousands of oil workers and executives after a strike.

"They are doing such a terrible job managing the nation's most important company, PDVSA, that it's hard to imagine they're really going to have the skill, the manpower and the knowledge to do much with [cement] companies," said Peter Hakim, president of the Inter-American Dialogue, a Latin America think tank based in Washington. "This is rather a cockeyed economic proposition."

Funny part is that there were some Mexican Marxists who got killed when Columbia hit that FARC camp in Ecuador.

Mu-Meson
04-05-2008, 04:54 PM
You know what they say about history repeating itself. Anyone wanna bet that Chavez + 10 years = Mugabe?

boreal
04-05-2008, 05:46 PM
Mugabe doesn´t have all the venezuelan oil

Michael RVR
04-05-2008, 06:13 PM
True. One of the reasons Communism failed was they didn't have the $$ to make it happen. Less of a problem for Chavez.

Zoomie
04-05-2008, 06:24 PM
"Certainly it's an inadequate action, an action that doesn't respect the property and the rights of Mexicans," Carstens said.
rofl Funny how they'd like to have their rights and properties respected, but not those of other nations.

nemowork
04-05-2008, 07:16 PM
Why does he need a nationalised concrete supply unless he has an urgent need for underground bunkers or he's really investing in modern art installations?

Anybody fancy a 100 foot tall statue of Hugo?

Ought Six
04-05-2008, 07:56 PM
Zimbabwe is also rich in natural resources, but that was not enough to prevent its collapse under Mugabe's corruption and socialist mismanagement. The same is starting to happen in Venezuela, with the state oil company on the verge of collapse. Oil production is dropping since the nationalization of the Orinoco fields because they cannot properly maintain and run the production infrastructure. The fact that they have oil will not save them. Only getting rid of Chavez and his socialist insanity will do that.

Andromeda
04-05-2008, 08:07 PM
rofl Funny how they'd like to have their rights and properties respected, but not those of other nations.

It's political, when they talk about ordinary joe its just him but when they speak of a multi-national its all of them. Money talks you should know that. But anyways, chavez....Wont be happy until he manges to destroy all of venezuela's infrastructure. I'm just shocked how people in venezuela are so complacent with a man that will eventually drive their country into the ground.

Tokamak
04-05-2008, 08:19 PM
Sorry repost:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=131719

11 Bravo
04-05-2008, 09:37 PM
True. One of the reasons Communism failed was they didn't have the $$ to make it happen. Less of a problem for Chavez.


"The money to make it happen" ??????????????. All the money in the world can not nor will not sustain marxism/socialism. It's all a downward primrose path. No less of a problem..only more so for him as he needs a magician with smoke and mirrors to go the full 9 yards yet.

Power_serj
04-06-2008, 06:15 PM
So true 11 Bravo, Raul Castro is already headed towards Capitalism slowly but surely. He recently started privatizing farms, so that more crops can be grown more efficiently.

Ordie
04-07-2008, 01:09 AM
Concrete / cement is useless without rebar.

Does Venezuela have a domestic source of iron or does it rely on China, Brazil or US for iron rebar?

It's time to check into the concrete recycling business.

3rdMillhouse
04-07-2008, 02:54 PM
Concrete / cement is useless without rebar.

Does Venezuela have a domestic source of iron or does it rely on China, Brazil or US for iron rebar?

It's time to check into the concrete recycling business.

I think it relies on other countries for iron rebar.


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-venez5apr05,1,3879299.story?track=rss


Funny part is that there were some Mexican Marxists who got killed when Columbia hit that FARC camp in Ecuador.

Wonderful, you know the drill: A good marxist is a dead one. And the best of all is that they got bombed by the Super Tucanos we sold to the colombian air force.

Ordie
04-07-2008, 03:03 PM
I think it relies on other countries for iron rebar.

Great, they got themselves a whole bunch of useless cement, and will continue to pay a premium on imported rebar.