U.S. official says mustard gas detected in Iraq earlier this

[seruriermarshal]

U.S. official says mustard gas detected in Iraq earlier this month

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- The military says some trace residue of mustard agent has been detected in an artillery shell found earlier this month in Baghdad.

The shell -- found in a street -- was believed to be from one of Saddam Hussein's old stockpiles, and was not regarded as evidence of recent weapons of mass destruction production.

The disclosure comes as the military is trying to confirm if the deadly nerve agent sarin was contained in a shell that partially exploded in Baghdad.

It happened near a U.S. convoy Saturday.

Because the shell's chemicals didn't mix properly, only a small amount of what could be sarin escaped -- causing "minor exposure" to two members of a military bomb squad.

[seruriermarshal]

From (http://www.news24houston.com/content/headlines/?ArID=29178&SecID=2)

[Secret Squirrel]

old news.

[Romulus]

old news.

Heh, you never miss an opportunity to denounce anything that proves you wrong, huh squirrelnuts?

[Secret Squirrel]

old news.

Heh, you never miss an opportunity to denounce anything that proves you wrong, huh squirrelnuts?

wow two shells...thats a high price to pay for over 800+ american body bags isnt it? wheres the tons of WMDs Bush promised the world?

[scm77]

Mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, I can't believe Saddam would lie to us. That BITCH!

[Romulus]

wow two shells.

Thats 2 more than Iraq claimed to have.

[Secret Squirrel]

wow two shells.

Thats 2 more than Iraq claimed to have.

so you're saying it was worth 800+ (and still counting) dead american soldiers? Two shells is the immediate threat to world peace that caused Bush to pull inspectors from Iraq? One shell which has been dated before the firs Gulf War? So come on, show your support for an American invasion of countries with landmines, because the landmines are in their countries then they must know they're there so they're guilty of possessing illegal weapons.

[Romulus]

So come on, show your support for an American invasion of countries with landmines, because the landmines are in their countries then they must know they're there so they're guilty of possessing illegal weapons.

Landmines are illegal?

[usa320]

you do realize that far more than 800 people could have been killed of some whackjob set these things off in new york or las angeles...

[seruriermarshal]

Before find them . you tell me , 800+ american body for lie . now you tell me , 800+ american body for two shells ? In fact you are spy , and you are member of AQ ?

:bash:

[Secret Squirrel]

you do realize that far more than 800 people could have been killed of some whackjob set these things off in new york or las angeles...

and if Napoleon never had hemorrhoids we'd all be speaking french.

[Secret Squirrel]

Before find them . you tell me , 800+ american body for lie . now you tell me , 800+ american body for two shells ? In fact you are spy , and you are member of AQ ?

:bash:

try re-reading my posts. Bush promised hundreds of tons of chemicals...i dont know the exact weight of two 155mm shells, but i think it more than a little shy of the promised hundreds of tons.

[scm77]

Here's my opinion. For what they have found (2 shells) it isn't worth the 800 lives. BUT if the intelligence was right (but it was WRONG not a lie) then it would be worth the 800 lives to keep hundreds of tons of anthrax/mustard gas/VX/sarin out of terrorists hands. Here's an excert(sp??) from an article I just happened to find today. It's refering to Operation Desert Fox December 16 1998


"The activity occurred shortly after U.S. President Bill Clinton announced he had ordered a "strong, sustained" series of airstrikes on military and security forces in Iraq, designed to degrade Iraq's ability to develop weapons of mass destruction."

Iraq was still developing WMD in '98, He sure didn't destroy all of them before 2003. The same people who said he needed to be punished then say that we shouldn't have gone to war, war wasn't necesary, he wasn't doing anything wrong. Why were they okay with it then? Because it wasn't an election year of course.

Here's the full article. http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9812/16/iraq.strike.03/index.html

and another quote from Clinton in the same article.


Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors with nuclear weapons, poison gas or biological weapons.

[usa320]

hey if they had these handful of shells then its better to assume the worse and expect to find more. better safe than sorry. Right now there is a hearing going on to find out what could have been done to stop 9-11. The war in Iraq is what we can do to stop the next 9-11.

[seruriermarshal]

Before find them . you tell me , 800+ american body for lie . now you tell me , 800+ american body for two shells ? In fact you are spy , and you are member of AQ ?

:bash:

try re-reading my posts. Bush promised hundreds of tons of chemicals...i dont know the exact weight of two 155mm shells, but i think it more than a little shy of the promised hundreds of tons.

Find Number 3 , Number 4 , Number 5 ...... I don't know lie that you or Bush . You hope nuclear weapon kill our , then you believe and glad ?

[usa320]

and if Napoleon never had hemorrhoids we'd all be speaking french.



Hey Captain Sarcasm, if you never posted bull**** here, you would never be made to look like an asshole, so how about shutting the **** up eh?

[Secret Squirrel]

Before find them . you tell me , 800+ american body for lie . now you tell me , 800+ american body for two shells ? In fact you are spy , and you are member of AQ ?

:bash:

try re-reading my posts. Bush promised hundreds of tons of chemicals...i dont know the exact weight of two 155mm shells, but i think it more than a little shy of the promised hundreds of tons.

Find Number 3 , Number 4 , Number 5 ...... I don't know lie that you or Bush . You hope nuclear weapon kill our , then you believe and glad ?

can you at least try to type a sentence that makes sense? And define stock pile? Actually you dont have to, just something that amounts to at least a 100 tons will be fine. Or maybe some aircraft that were suppose to carry these chemicals? And no, i dont mean three migs. rofl And are you going to answer why you edited the article you posted in another thread in regards to Iraq's link to 911?

[seruriermarshal]

Before find them . you tell me , 800+ american body for lie . now you tell me , 800+ american body for two shells ? In fact you are spy , and you are member of AQ ?

:bash:

try re-reading my posts. Bush promised hundreds of tons of chemicals...i dont know the exact weight of two 155mm shells, but i think it more than a little shy of the promised hundreds of tons.

Find Number 3 , Number 4 , Number 5 ...... I don't know lie that you or Bush . You hope nuclear weapon kill our , then you believe and glad ?

can you at least try to type a sentence that makes sense? And define stock pile? Actually you dont have to, just something that amounts to at least a 100 tons will be fine. Or maybe some aircraft that were suppose to carry these chemicals? And no, i dont mean three migs. rofl And are you going to answer why you edited the article you posted in another thread in regards to Iraq's link to 911?

???

I give news address . You haven't watch it ?

[Romulus]

can you at least try to type a sentence that makes sense?

Don't bust the man for trying to speak our language. I'm sure he is doing his best.

[seruriermarshal]

can you at least try to type a sentence that makes sense?

Don't bust the man for trying to speak our language. I'm sure he is doing his best.

Thank you .

[Secret Squirrel]

Before find them . you tell me , 800+ american body for lie . now you tell me , 800+ american body for two shells ? In fact you are spy , and you are member of AQ ?

:bash:

try re-reading my posts. Bush promised hundreds of tons of chemicals...i dont know the exact weight of two 155mm shells, but i think it more than a little shy of the promised hundreds of tons.

Find Number 3 , Number 4 , Number 5 ...... I don't know lie that you or Bush . You hope nuclear weapon kill our , then you believe and glad ?

can you at least try to type a sentence that makes sense? And define stock pile? Actually you dont have to, just something that amounts to at least a 100 tons will be fine. Or maybe some aircraft that were suppose to carry these chemicals? And no, i dont mean three migs. rofl And are you going to answer why you edited the article you posted in another thread in regards to Iraq's link to 911?

???

I give news address . You haven't watch it ?

the news address is from a site thats been under investigation in the past for editing reports and mis-representing the news. The author of your report is a nut-job. But you still havent answered why you edited it when you pasted it into the post? Come on, you've been caught red-handed, own up to your stupidity and your attempt at cut and paste reporting.

[seruriermarshal]

Before find them . you tell me , 800+ american body for lie . now you tell me , 800+ american body for two shells ? In fact you are spy , and you are member of AQ ?

:bash:

try re-reading my posts. Bush promised hundreds of tons of chemicals...i dont know the exact weight of two 155mm shells, but i think it more than a little shy of the promised hundreds of tons.

Find Number 3 , Number 4 , Number 5 ...... I don't know lie that you or Bush . You hope nuclear weapon kill our , then you believe and glad ?

can you at least try to type a sentence that makes sense? And define stock pile? Actually you dont have to, just something that amounts to at least a 100 tons will be fine. Or maybe some aircraft that were suppose to carry these chemicals? And no, i dont mean three migs. rofl And are you going to answer why you edited the article you posted in another thread in regards to Iraq's link to 911?

???

I give news address . You haven't watch it ?

the news address is from a site thats been under investigation in the past for editing reports and mis-representing the news. The author of your report is a nut-job. But you still havent answered why you edited it when you pasted it into the post? Come on, you've been caught red-handed, own up to your stupidity and your attempt at cut and paste reporting.

And why you said I edit it ? You watch this address ?

[Secret Squirrel]

Before find them . you tell me , 800+ american body for lie . now you tell me , 800+ american body for two shells ? In fact you are spy , and you are member of AQ ?

:bash:

try re-reading my posts. Bush promised hundreds of tons of chemicals...i dont know the exact weight of two 155mm shells, but i think it more than a little shy of the promised hundreds of tons.

Find Number 3 , Number 4 , Number 5 ...... I don't know lie that you or Bush . You hope nuclear weapon kill our , then you believe and glad ?

can you at least try to type a sentence that makes sense? And define stock pile? Actually you dont have to, just something that amounts to at least a 100 tons will be fine. Or maybe some aircraft that were suppose to carry these chemicals? And no, i dont mean three migs. rofl And are you going to answer why you edited the article you posted in another thread in regards to Iraq's link to 911?

???

I give news address . You haven't watch it ?

the news address is from a site thats been under investigation in the past for editing reports and mis-representing the news. The author of your report is a nut-job. But you still havent answered why you edited it when you pasted it into the post? Come on, you've been caught red-handed, own up to your stupidity and your attempt at cut and paste reporting.

And why you said I edit it ? You watch this address ?

you did edit the article. You deleted the beginnnig of a sentence, which makes it look like a conscious decision to edit the article. But i guess people now should ignore what you posts and only read the links if you actually post them.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Before find them . you tell me , 800+ american body for lie . now you tell me , 800+ american body for two shells ? In fact you are spy , and you are member of AQ ?

:bash:

try re-reading my posts. Bush promised hundreds of tons of chemicals...i dont know the exact weight of two 155mm shells, but i think it more than a little shy of the promised hundreds of tons.

Bush promised nothing except to try to find what was still there.

Saddam on the other hand told the UN that he had 1000 tons of WMD that he could not/would not account for.

Get your facts straight. Read UN 1441.

Or this from a UNMOVIC report by Hans Blix (hardly a favorite of the US administration) dated 27 JAN 03;


The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.

Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable. Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.

UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared. Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than declared.

There are also indications that the agent was weaponised. In addition, there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.

I would now like to turn to the so-called “Air Force document” that I have discussed with the Council before. This document was originally found by an UNSCOM inspector in a safe in Iraqi Air Force Headquarters in 1998 and taken from her by Iraqi minders. It gives an account of the expenditure of bombs, including chemical bombs, by Iraq in the Iraq-Iran War. I am encouraged by the fact that Iraq has now provided this document to UNMOVIC.

The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now unaccounted for.

The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocket warheads in a bunker at a storage depot 170 km southwest of Baghdad was much publicized. This was a relatively new bunker and therefore the rockets must have been moved there in the past few years, at a time when Iraq should not have had such munitions.

full text at http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/Bx27.htm

They went somewhere.

[Secret Squirrel]

Oh they just happen to be unaccounted? or were they destroyed? Maybe they were sold along with pictures of saddam to the populas so he could try and get rid of them?

Bush's own words...

Cincinnati, Ohio Speech, Oct. 7, 2002:
"We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas." <--thousands of tons eh? hrm that shouldnt be hard to find right?

"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States." <--lol The ever feared Iraqi airforce? Where did this fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles go? Or was it meant to refer to that unmanned Iraqi drone showed during the initial occupation (or invasion?)..."Mr President, a done from Iraq will be here in just under 2 days, what do we do?!"

so again, after a year of a looking, 2 shells have appeared? That's worth the lives so hundreds of good soldiers? Bush got fed intel from an exhiled Iraq who he had on the payroll. Face it, the U.S was used for a political assassination.
Do you remember reading this? "I think it's clear that in March, when the invasion took place, the evidence that had been brought forward was rapidly falling apart," Hans Blix, who oversaw the agency's investigation into whether Iraq had chemical and biological weapons, said on CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer."

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Feh. There are 4 possible truths to the Iraq WMDs

1 - the WMDs could still be hidden in Iraq somewhere.
2 - the WMDs could have been moved elsewhere
3 - the WMDs were destroyed by Iraq, but inexplicably not documented
4 - the WMDs never really existed in the numbers Saddam reported, and Saddam was being fed lies by his own scientists.

Now, how do you deal with this? The man had gassed the Iranians and the Kurds. He had invaded Kuwait. He was developing missiles which exceeded the ranges allowed under the UN & which threatened his neighbors. He kicked out the weapons inspectors. Then he let them in, but violated the inspection regime. He was in violation of the UN resolution that ended the war with a cease fire.

So what do you do? Allow him to do what he wants & show all nations of the world that the UN is a useless and powerless body? Or do you force him to comply under threat...and follow through with the threat? Others may kiss Saddam's ass, but this is easy decision for me.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

3 - the WMDs were destroyed by Iraq, but inexplicably not documented
4 - the WMDs never really existed in the numbers Saddam reported, and Saddam was being fed lies by his own scientists.
I am going with both of the above, I for one believed that Saddam had a large amount of the Chem weapons but gave into pressure and started to dismantle the programs and destroy the stockpiles. I always thought they would find more than they have found so far but I really did not believe all that **** about mobile Chem/Bio agent labs and massive weapon programs.

[Secret Squirrel]

He kicked out the weapons inspectors. Then he let them in, but violated the inspection regime.

The inspectors had no problems doing their work in 1997. http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/sres97-774.htm. They were pulled out, not kicked out, in 1998 by the U.N on the advice of the U.S before the U.S bombed Iraq. In 2002/2003 Blix himself said during U.N meetings, "Iraq has on the whole cooperated rather well so far. Access has been provided to all sites we have wanted to inspect. Arrangements and services for our plane and our helicopters have been good. The environment has been workable." Also, in his report to the UN Security Council on 7 March 2003, Blix states that “In matters relating to process, notably prompt access to sites, we have faced relatively few difficulties and certainly much less than those that were faced by UNSCOM in the period 1991 to 1998.” And where are these weapons that surpassed U.N regulations? I'm assuming that you mean missles with a range further than 150 km? You mean the scud missles he destroyed before the invasion? Shouldnt the coalition have found these kinds of weapons?

[seruriermarshal]

Post:

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- The military says some trace residue of mustard agent has been detected in an artillery shell found earlier this month in Baghdad.

The shell -- found in a street -- was believed to be from one of Saddam Hussein's old stockpiles, and was not regarded as evidence of recent weapons of mass destruction production.

The disclosure comes as the military is trying to confirm if the deadly nerve agent sarin was contained in a shell that partially exploded in Baghdad.

It happened near a U.S. convoy Saturday.

Because the shell's chemicals didn't mix properly, only a small amount of what could be sarin escaped -- causing "minor exposure" to two members of a military bomb squad.




Address:


BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- The military says some trace residue of mustard agent has been detected in an artillery shell found earlier this month in Baghdad.


The shell -- found in a street -- was believed to be from one of Saddam Hussein's old stockpiles, and was not regarded as evidence of recent weapons of mass destruction production.

The disclosure comes as the military is trying to confirm if the deadly nerve agent sarin was contained in a shell that partially exploded in Baghdad.

It happened near a U.S. convoy Saturday.

Because the shell's chemicals didn't mix properly, only a small amount of what could be sarin escaped -- causing "minor exposure" to two members of a military bomb squad.

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Now , You tell me why you said me edit this post ?

[Secret Squirrel]

Post:

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- The military says some trace residue of mustard agent has been detected in an artillery shell found earlier this month in Baghdad.

The shell -- found in a street -- was believed to be from one of Saddam Hussein's old stockpiles, and was not regarded as evidence of recent weapons of mass destruction production.

The disclosure comes as the military is trying to confirm if the deadly nerve agent sarin was contained in a shell that partially exploded in Baghdad.

It happened near a U.S. convoy Saturday.

Because the shell's chemicals didn't mix properly, only a small amount of what could be sarin escaped -- causing "minor exposure" to two members of a military bomb squad.




Address:


BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- The military says some trace residue of mustard agent has been detected in an artillery shell found earlier this month in Baghdad.


The shell -- found in a street -- was believed to be from one of Saddam Hussein's old stockpiles, and was not regarded as evidence of recent weapons of mass destruction production.

The disclosure comes as the military is trying to confirm if the deadly nerve agent sarin was contained in a shell that partially exploded in Baghdad.

It happened near a U.S. convoy Saturday.

Because the shell's chemicals didn't mix properly, only a small amount of what could be sarin escaped -- causing "minor exposure" to two members of a military bomb squad.

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Now , You tell me why you said me edit this post ?

I pointed out that you edited an article from another link. Heres the link to that thread incase anyone wants to check out the "hack" job this idiot does to articles. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15915&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 . Maybe this is why there havent been links at the end of your "news" briefs lately? I dont mind arguing with someone who actually has valid points. I get annoyed when idiots like you edit articles from moronic new sources to try and prove a point that doesnt exist.

[seruriermarshal]

Now poor friend , your lie is end .

[Secret Squirrel]

Now poor friend , your lie is end .

no lies, you edited an article in another thread. Why dont you take your B.S to the KKK forums, we dont need your "evidence tamper" here.

[seruriermarshal]

Now poor friend , your lie is end .

no lies, you edited an article in another thread. Why dont you take your B.S to the KKK forums, we dont need your "evidence tamper" here.

Yes because that's base link , now you said I edit post , why ? evidence ?

[Secret Squirrel]

Now poor friend , your lie is end .

no lies, you edited an article in another thread. Why dont you take your B.S to the KKK forums, we dont need your "evidence tamper" here.

Yes because that's base link , now you said I edit post , why ? evidence ?

evidence is in the thread you did the hack job on. Anything you say from this point on, in my mind, will be complete bull****.

[seruriermarshal]

???
I haven't said link in the post ?
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15915&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

And like you change title ?

[seruriermarshal]

???
I haven't said link in the post ?
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15915&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

And like you change title ?