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cut
05-27-2004, 07:33 PM
On the BBC

In a nutshell: one day in the lives of 16 people at war.

from an american soldier in Iraq to a 14 year old in mogadishu to anti-communist rebels in Laos

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40143000/jpg/_40143633_16pics_composite2_203.jpg

For you foreigners they'll probably show it on BBC world/america at some point.

here's the websites

main website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/one_day_of_war/default.stm)

BBC article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/programmes/this_world/one_day_of_war/html/introduction.stm)

Kitsune
05-27-2004, 07:47 PM
Yeah cut, I have seen it. That was an awesome and disturbing documentary. Shows whats really happening on this planet. Everyone talks of Iraq, but the Chechen conflict alone is much bloodier even right now. And even that is overshadowed by the Sudan crisis. Not to speak from hellholes like Mogadishu. and lots of other conbflicts all over THIS WORLD. :(

jamesp
05-27-2004, 07:53 PM
Yeah I seen it, I also watched something like that on BBC 4, where they showed in more detail the guys from Burma, Laos and Mogadishu. Possibly others. I think it's gonna be on BBC 2 next week.

afrographX
05-27-2004, 08:00 PM
you can wacth it here, but it's crappy quality:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/one_day_of_war/default.stm

cut
05-27-2004, 08:13 PM
This is sad

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/programmes/this_world/one_day_of_war/img/203/16.jpg


Three days later Muktar was dead. At first I was told it was a gun accident, but then it transpired that he had woken one of his fellow militiamen too early.

Angry, the man grabbed his gun and shot Muktar in the head.

The only comfort I could take was that Muktar was a boy who lived a life he loved, however tragic and empty it might have seemed to me.

GrantT
05-27-2004, 08:24 PM
Did anyone in the UK see the documentary on Channel 4 about Palestinian children in Gaza? It was a great piece of work, unfortunetaly the director was shot dead by an Isreali soldier at the end of their time in Gaza.

cut
05-27-2004, 08:34 PM
Did anyone in the UK see the documentary on Channel 4 about Palestinian children in Gaza? It was a great piece of work, unfortunetaly the director was shot dead by an Isreali soldier at the end of their time in Gaza.

Yeah I saw that too, that was great but really showed how crazy palestinian society is.

Moledet
05-27-2004, 08:47 PM
It just shows what a biased world we live in. Stop criticizing Israel, start criticizing others that do worse things. If there won't be any media coverage of our conflict the terrorists will stop fighting because they know that when they fight they get media coverage that helps them to incite hatred towards Israel.
No media coverage will bring the end of the conflict.

cut
05-27-2004, 09:01 PM
It just shows what a biased world we live in. Stop criticizing Israel, start criticizing others that do worse things. If there won't be any media coverage of our conflict the terrorists will stop fighting because they know that when they fight they get media coverage that helps them to incite hatred towards Israel.
No media coverage will bring the end of the conflict.

And you show how biased your eyes are, this programe was even handed, the reporters didn't blame the Israeli soldiers, and they showed a fair portrayal of the palestinians, not allowing women to cry and their childrens funeral because 'matyrs' are a cause for celebratio, aswell as Palestinian militants using kids as scouts etc... If you think that's trying to buy Palestinian support you are very much misguided and by the sound of it paranoid. So relax and stop assuming that the world and its media is anti-semitic.

martinexsquaddie
05-28-2004, 01:35 AM
programme was good but depressing then mong in laos are really in the **** :(

Roger Rabbit
05-28-2004, 05:07 AM
Didn't see it, i was at the gym and forgot to set the video. Does anybody know if it's going to be repeated?

Edit:just watched the 20 minute clip from here http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/one_day_of_war/default.stm

Its a shame you hear so little about these conflicts.

jamesp
05-28-2004, 05:41 AM
programme was good but depressing then mong in laos are really in the **** :(

They are indeed. On the one I watched on BBC 4, which showed them in more detail, every person in their village started crying when the journalists entered the village.

Cambridge Rabbit
05-28-2004, 06:15 AM
programme was good but depressing then mong in laos are really in the **** :(

The Hmong and Montagnards were among the greatest allies this country has ever had. Every Vietnam-era Special Forces, SASR, or NZSAS soldier I've ever had the pleasure of speaking to has nothing but praise for them. Their loyalty and fighting spirit is second to none.

Sadly, though, like the British with the Karen, the Hmong have been basically left to their own devices. They're fighting a brutal campagin against the horrifically oppressive governments of Laos and Vietnam, who have been brutalizing them ever since the U.S. and its allies left.

If anyone is interested, former Special Forces soldiers have set up a Web site that I believe takes donations to help get the Hmong and 'yards out of Southeast Asia and into the United States and other friendly nations. In fact, IIRC, the largest gathering of Hmong people outside of their ancestral homelands is in the Ft. Bragg area, home of the Special Forces.

http://www.montagnards.org/about_stmp.cfm

The work of this group has been nothing short of amazing. Good luck to the Hmong and their struggle.

Gringo
05-28-2004, 07:21 AM
Very interesting programme. And at times very disturbing. I feel pathos for some of the people and for others, nothing.

Moledet
05-28-2004, 07:31 AM
It just shows what a biased world we live in. Stop criticizing Israel, start criticizing others that do worse things. If there won't be any media coverage of our conflict the terrorists will stop fighting because they know that when they fight they get media coverage that helps them to incite hatred towards Israel.
No media coverage will bring the end of the conflict.

And you show how biased your eyes are, this programe was even handed, the reporters didn't blame the Israeli soldiers, and they showed a fair portrayal of the palestinians, not allowing women to cry and their childrens funeral because 'matyrs' are a cause for celebratio, aswell as Palestinian militants using kids as scouts etc... If you think that's trying to buy Palestinian support you are very much misguided and by the sound of it paranoid. So relax and stop assuming that the world and its media is anti-semitic.
The main idea of my post was: They need to cover other conflicts and to stop covering our conflict, I didn't say a thing about the BBC.
BTW, Israel is considering kicking every BBC reporter out of Israel because they ignored many laws.

MolliG
05-28-2004, 07:42 AM
Bloody great peace of programming. Really liked it, but, in my opinion it should have been a tad bit longer. Very well done, especially the little things like lunch/dinner, from the Americans enjoying burgers and pizza, Zaza Geladze and his crew trying to get some fish, Mousa Ibragim Osman hunting monkeys and Muktar drinking tea and chewing Khat.

:)

cut
05-28-2004, 08:16 AM
Bloody great peace of programming. Really liked it, but, in my opinion it should have been a tad bit longer. Very well done, especially the little things like lunch/dinner, from the Americans enjoying burgers and pizza, Zaza Geladze and his crew trying to get some fish, Mousa Ibragim Osman hunting monkeys and Muktar drinking tea and chewing Khat.

:)

UN soldiers had the best meals, steaks and fresh salad etc.. 5 times a day.

cut
05-28-2004, 08:43 AM
It just shows what a biased world we live in. Stop criticizing Israel, start criticizing others that do worse things. If there won't be any media coverage of our conflict the terrorists will stop fighting because they know that when they fight they get media coverage that helps them to incite hatred towards Israel.
No media coverage will bring the end of the conflict.

And you show how biased your eyes are, this programe was even handed, the reporters didn't blame the Israeli soldiers, and they showed a fair portrayal of the palestinians, not allowing women to cry and their childrens funeral because 'matyrs' are a cause for celebratio, aswell as Palestinian militants using kids as scouts etc... If you think that's trying to buy Palestinian support you are very much misguided and by the sound of it paranoid. So relax and stop assuming that the world and its media is anti-semitic.
The main idea of my post was: They need to cover other conflicts and to stop covering our conflict, I didn't say a thing about the BBC.
BTW, Israel is considering kicking every BBC reporter out of Israel because they ignored many laws.



Stop criticizing Israel, start criticizing others that do worse things.


sounds like you're not being general there, I wasn't talking about the BBC either, but this programme was very even despite the cameraman/producer/director being shot by Israeli soldiers. That shows fairness, you can't complain about that.

Although if Israel kicks out BBC reporters, it would tar it's reputtion and show it is doing something wrong, the only other countries that have banned the BBC for "ignoring many laws" are North Korea and Zimbabwe.
Nice club you'd be getting yourself into.

Javehn
05-28-2004, 08:51 AM
That was pretty good program actually .
Me and Abyy brought some clips from the show in video section , but they are crappy . Nice show . Funny rifle those Nepali militia has .
And this Georgian guy just cracked me up , Zozo Miladze ! They are the funniest people that exist on the plannet .

cut
05-28-2004, 08:59 AM
Yeah, it's a shame we didn't see more of Zaza Geladze

The IDF base looked cool as well.

Moledet
05-28-2004, 09:04 AM
It just shows what a biased world we live in. Stop criticizing Israel, start criticizing others that do worse things. If there won't be any media coverage of our conflict the terrorists will stop fighting because they know that when they fight they get media coverage that helps them to incite hatred towards Israel.
No media coverage will bring the end of the conflict.

And you show how biased your eyes are, this programe was even handed, the reporters didn't blame the Israeli soldiers, and they showed a fair portrayal of the palestinians, not allowing women to cry and their childrens funeral because 'matyrs' are a cause for celebratio, aswell as Palestinian militants using kids as scouts etc... If you think that's trying to buy Palestinian support you are very much misguided and by the sound of it paranoid. So relax and stop assuming that the world and its media is anti-semitic.
The main idea of my post was: They need to cover other conflicts and to stop covering our conflict, I didn't say a thing about the BBC.
BTW, Israel is considering kicking every BBC reporter out of Israel because they ignored many laws.



Stop criticizing Israel, start criticizing others that do worse things.


sounds like you're not being general there, I wasn't talking about the BBC either, but this programme was very even despite the cameraman/producer/director being shot by Israeli soldiers. That shows fairness, you can't complain about that.

Although if Israel kicks out BBC reporters, it would tar it's reputtion and show it is doing something wrong, the only other countries that have banned the BBC for "ignoring many laws" are North Korea and Zimbabwe.
Nice club you'd be getting yourself into.
Well if you are a reporter or a citizen you need to obey to the country laws, if you brake them you either get arrested or you'll be thrown out.
The BBC has broke too many laws, laws like "do not enter a close military zone" or "don't talke with Vaanunu, it's not allowed", but i'm happy that he talked with Vaanunu because now Vaanunu will be arrested again because he violated the prison release agreement and now he might get locked behind bars again.
Doing something wrong? Other reporters will stay here, just the BBC won't be here.
BTW, my post wasn't aimed to the Palestinian children movie but to the main topic of the thread "one day of war".

MolliG
05-28-2004, 09:20 AM
And this Georgian guy just cracked me up , Zozo Miladze ! They are the funniest people that exist on the plannet .
"Did you see that ugly waitress who was asking me to stay with her?..." :lol: :lol:

cut
05-29-2004, 02:35 PM
It just shows what a biased world we live in. Stop criticizing Israel, start criticizing others that do worse things. If there won't be any media coverage of our conflict the terrorists will stop fighting because they know that when they fight they get media coverage that helps them to incite hatred towards Israel.
No media coverage will bring the end of the conflict.

And you show how biased your eyes are, this programe was even handed, the reporters didn't blame the Israeli soldiers, and they showed a fair portrayal of the palestinians, not allowing women to cry and their childrens funeral because 'matyrs' are a cause for celebratio, aswell as Palestinian militants using kids as scouts etc... If you think that's trying to buy Palestinian support you are very much misguided and by the sound of it paranoid. So relax and stop assuming that the world and its media is anti-semitic.
The main idea of my post was: They need to cover other conflicts and to stop covering our conflict, I didn't say a thing about the BBC.
BTW, Israel is considering kicking every BBC reporter out of Israel because they ignored many laws.



Stop criticizing Israel, start criticizing others that do worse things.


sounds like you're not being general there, I wasn't talking about the BBC either, but this programme was very even despite the cameraman/producer/director being shot by Israeli soldiers. That shows fairness, you can't complain about that.

Although if Israel kicks out BBC reporters, it would tar it's reputtion and show it is doing something wrong, the only other countries that have banned the BBC for "ignoring many laws" are North Korea and Zimbabwe.
Nice club you'd be getting yourself into.
Well if you are a reporter or a citizen you need to obey to the country laws, if you brake them you either get arrested or you'll be thrown out.
The BBC has broke too many laws, laws like "do not enter a close military zone" or "don't talke with Vaanunu, it's not allowed", but i'm happy that he talked with Vaanunu because now Vaanunu will be arrested again because he violated the prison release agreement and now he might get locked behind bars again.
Doing something wrong? Other reporters will stay here, just the BBC won't be here.
BTW, my post wasn't aimed to the Palestinian children movie but to the main topic of the thread "one day of war".

we believe in freedom in the west ;)

not interview Vaanunu? WTF? talking about breaking the laws of different countries kidnaping him in a foreign country is fine? :roll:

"one day of war" is anti-semitic? How, they didn't even have palestinians. What do you disagree with?