Your countries worst cities.

[Romulus]

We were kind of getting off topic on another thread about Baltimore crime. So I thought I'd ask everyone here what city in their respective country is considered to be a s**thole.

Things to consider..
1. Crime
2. Pollution
3. Drugs
4. Police corruption
5. People
6. Beauty

Now having said that I will say my top 3 would be
1. Detroit (was born there and it still looks like Berlin after WW2)
2. Baltimore
3. Philadelphia

[Jack Mehoff]

Atlanta should be in second place.

[EvanL]

1. Nunavut
2. Sudbury
3. West Hastings street in Vancouver :P

[Fintin]

yeah...detroit...was watching the news today...insted of demolishing the abandoned buildings down town for the super bowl..they are going to put big sheets over them and sell them as advertising spots...its sad when there are enough abandoned high rises to make that seem like a good idea....

[Romulus]

yeah...detroit...was watching the news today...insted of demolishing the abandoned buildings down town for the super bowl..they are going to put big sheets over them and sell them as advertising spots...its sad when there are enough abandoned high rises to make that seem like a good idea..

Why the hell is Detroit so stubborn when it comes to tearing down these crack houses? I mean they need to clean the damn place up if they expect to see higher casino revenues. I sure as hell don't want to gamble there... I'll go over to Windsor.

[Fintin]

yeah i dont know...someone offered the city 10 million over 10 years to tear them down...but the city hasnt called the guy back apparently...yeah those advertising buildings dont even include the 2 or 3 burnt out...crack house...rundown ratholes on every block...there is a charity i have worked with called blight busters that goes down town and knocks downt he old crack houses...but the city charges them for the houses...damn it just pisses me off...half the people in detroit dont own their house they rent...so they cant do much to improve things...cause its not theirs...if someone does by chance fix up a house...its broken into or torched...cause people dont want other people to have a nicer house then theirs...i had to go down town once...to a warehouse that i was going to be doing some construction on....took a wrong turn...the **** hit the fan faster then possible...i felt like i was in mogidishu....every other street had a road block build on it...all out of old tires...i just spun it in the middle of the street and went 60 mph till i was on the free way again....didnt stop for anything

[German_American]

Camden, New Jersey is one of the biggest **** hole cities in the U.S.

[scott]

1. Nunavut
2. Sudbury
3. West Hastings street in Vancouver :P

nunavut isnt a city, and whats wrong with it? other than the cold

id say churchill, manatoba (north, lots of bugs)
kingston, ontario
deadmonton, alberta

[Fintin]

arnt all you canadians forgetting winsor?

[scott]

windsors pretty cool, the casino! the red wings! the pollution!

[Fintin]

windsors pretty cool, the casino! the red wings! the pollution!

um...wings are on this side of the river...pollution is ours too...but we ship it south...HAHAHAHA....thats another sad thing about windsor...its south of the US

[Romulus]

Windsor is actually a welcome change from the mess over the river. I felt safe walking around downtown Windsor at 2 in the morning. Wouldn't catch me in Detroit at that time...actually not even during day light hours for that matter.

[scott]

okay so windsor is cool
but kingston is still a hole

[molly747]

Atlanta should be in second place.

Hey, what the...?"

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not from here, so I really don't have any allegiance to it. I'm not very impressed with the men, anyway.
I'd have to say Memphis. It's my hometown, and I love it to pieces, but the crime is awful. I think we're the rape and burglary capital in the US. woot

[Durandal]

1) Washington, D.C.
2) Huntington, WV
3) Breezewood, PA

Outside my nation...

DEFINATELY...

Beijing, China

Goddamn cesspool...

[molly747]

1. Newark, NJ
2. Houston, TX
3. New Orleans, LA

[Stavka]

Well, sweden dont got all that many "cities" per se, but if you ever visit sweden and are offered a trip to Kårböle, dont take up on the offer...

Seriously, just seeing the sign by the road announcing Kårböle is ahead makes you want to claw your own eyes out.

So why is this place so horrible? Its sooooooooooo booooooring...

[Saint]

Im from Windsor......it is not that bad =)

[scott]

Im from Windsor......it is not that bad =)

location: asshole of canada

i love it :lol:

[Innoxx]

Pfft, Windsor. You guys don't come to BC that often. Vancouver and Vic is alright, the rest of the province is shi'ite. I live up north in Prince George, more methheads than decent people up here and the unemployment rate is like 18%.

[scott]

i didnt put pg or anywhere in northern bc because no one would know where it is :lol:
but the list of bc dives is long and distinguished
id say pretty much the whole province minus the lower mainland

[Fintin]

Im from Windsor......it is not that bad =)

im sorry my city makes your city look bad...your side of the tunnle is a bit cleaner...

[TarwarWarrior]

Without a doubt, the Champion of ****e Cities in Canada goes to Surrey, B.C.!

In other countries, I'd have to say that Albuquerque, New Mexico was a hole. At least the parts I saw were.

And EvanLoyd, West Hastings is not too bad. East Hasting is the real winner. ;)

-TW, out-

[Mark Sman]

1. East St. Louis, simply amazing. http://www.builtstlouis.net/eaststlouis/eaststl01.html

2. Detroit, no explanation necessary.

3. Hollywood, may it slide into the ocean.

[Roger Rabbit]

London
Newcastle
Manchester

[Jack Mehoff]

Atlanta should be in second place.

Hey, what the...?"

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not from here, so I really don't have any allegiance to it. I'm not very impressed with the men, anyway.
I'd have to say Memphis. It's my hometown, and I love it to pieces, but the crime is awful. I think we're the rape and burglary capital in the US. woot

I live 30 minutes from Salt Lake and it's very safe over here. I literally leave my main door open when I'm away and nobody will even bother me. I don't bother locking my truck either.

[Scottie]

Sounds safe....just wait till the guy in detroit, get caught, escapes and legs it to you....No more truck then :roll:

[Mark Sman]

Detroit to Salt Lake
Total Est. Distance: 1792.21 miles
http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&un=m&2tabval=address&1n=Wayne&cl=EN&ct=NA&1v=CITY&1tabval=address&1y=US&1a=&1c=Detroit&1s=MI&1z=&2y=US&2a=&2c=Salt+Lake&2s=UT&2z=&idx=0&id=40b7034c-000d0-01ee4-400c2529&aid=40b7034c-000d1-01ee4-400c2529

[jassemon]

In Finland there's only one choice: Turku :D

[mocking_loudly_died]

As the track "F*ck Sydney" goes.

The city of Sydney sucks ****s
The people of Sydney can f*ck off!

[SwissGrenadier]

Zurich
loads of crackheads, hells angels and mafia. :|

[spectre5]

Tornio, smells like **** and stuff.

[FDF_Hemppis]

In Finland there's only one choice: Turku :D

I simply couldn't agree more! :D

However, the books of history tell that the people of Turku have done 3 good things:

1. They burnt the city.
2. They burnt the city, again.
3. They made a road which bypasses it.

[1Cie GevGn]

1: Luik/Liège

2: Charleroi

3: Some parts of Brussels

[Tengu]

Brussels

[Jehuty]

Marseille.
Lille.

[Durandal]

However, the books of history tell that the people of Turku have done 3 good things:

1. They burnt the city.
2. They burnt the city, again.
3. They made a road which bypasses it.

rofl

[Gringo]

Hell, oops I mean Hull

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Hell, oops I mean Hull
Ha ha poor Hull it always gets it in the neck I was there in 1990 and it was was just starting to look up a little, its cousin across the river Grimsby really does live up to its name though its natives are nice people.

[Moledet]

1st place Ramla and Lod
They pretty much look like the Palestinians cities, maybe a bit more modern and with less people per square meter.
They are full of drugs, they are so full of it that the police sent special units to make curfews on some parts of the city to find drugs. The city budget is very low and many people don't pay taxes, they don't have water because the city didn't pay the water bills (they have water but not 24hours a day), no one comes to clean the trash because the city has no money to pay to a company that will come to take it, there are armed gangs there, it's basicaly the capital of crime in Israel.

[Dalleer]

In Finland there's only one choice: Turku :D

I simply couldn't agree more! :D

However, the books of history tell that the people of Turku have done 3 good things:

1. They burnt the city.
2. They burnt the city, again.
3. They made a road which bypasses it.

Agreed, Turku it is.

[Nawlins]

1. Newark, NJ
2. Houston, TX
3. New Orleans, LA

Watch it, that's my home town you're talking about. And I believe he wasn't referring to only crime rates. It has beautiful architecture and culture, great food, and interesting people. Therefore it doesn't belong on the list.

Whoever mentioned Camden, NJ... I've heard that too. People from my school went on a charity mission a couple years ago, and those who went could choose whether they went to a third-world country or Camden. That was my first clue.

[Jack Mehoff]

Yeah, but they are French.

[Nawlins]

Yeah, but they are French.

Uh... well sort of. We're of french descent but you have to go pretty damn far back to trace our families to france. That doesn't count.

[Midtown]

Milwaukee sucks ass, it has a stench.

[Uncle Sam]

Here's what Bully Magazine (http://www.bullymag.com/11.18.03/cities-111803.asp) says...




10. Seattle

Seattle would seem to have everything going for it. Great music, good restaurants, a beautiful landscape, a range of ethnic cultures, and centralized collection of hi-tech businesses that attract brainy folks from places like San Francisco (ever since that city hit the economic slide). So what makes Seattle one of the ten worst cities to live in? Well it's those same techies who fled San Francisco to seek Seattle's venture-capital rich environment, usually after watching the movie Singles, who have turned this once humble and artistic community into a plague of cellphone sporting, PDA carrying idiots who fly around the streets in their Volkswagens while listening to the Flaming Lips. You know that annoying jackass who walks around in the cellphone commercials saying, "Can you hear me now?" He's the official mascot for Seattle. About the only consolation to all this is that Seattle still has one of the highest suicide rates in the nation.


9. Toledo

The first of the Ohio Triplets on our list, Toledo would be the perfect place to re-make The Omega Man. This mostly due to the fact that this Midwestern hole is so bleak, so gray, so devoid of life, that except for rush hour, you wouldn't know that anyone actually lived in Toledo. Forget civic pride, everyone in Toledo knows the city is a hellhole and just stays home to watch TV. Last time we visited, the only after hours joint was located in a hotel for men. Toledo's official city slogan should be "Toledo…We're…well…ah screw it."

8. Los Angeles

If you look at some of the most talented people to ever walk the planet that ended up destroying themselves - Hemingway, Bruce, Belushi, Morrison, Fitzgerald, Faulkner, Welles, and yes even Osbourne - all have one thing in common. LA.


7. Salt Lake City

This one should be obvious to any intelligent human: Mormons and lots of them. Need we say more?


6. Cincinnati

If you took Chicago, sucked out every last ounce of culture including its thriving music scenes and quality restaurants and bars, leaving a graying hulk of skyscrapers and a complete lack of night life, then you would have Cincinnati. To some Cincinnati is the greatest city in the U.S. - usually these folks are old, white, Christian fundamentalists, confined to wheelchairs, and are very scared of "coloreds." If you are not this type of person and you live in Cincinnati and like it, you have mental problems and should seek professional help.


5. St. Louis

The "Gateway to the West" has three strikes against it. First is that St. Louis has the highest crime rate of any U.S. city. Second, the main architectural landmark looks like an unfinished McDonald's logo. Third, Bob Costas lives there.


4. Atlanta

Any place nicknamed "Hotlanta" has to suck big time. Here's the catch: Did you ever meet someone who went to New York City and said, "I didn't like it, it was too dirty and oh my God there were all these weirdoes." Usually in the next sentence they'll say, "But I really like Hotlanta, it's so cool down there." That's because Atlanta is the city of choice for suburbanites who don't really like cities. Hence Atlanta has turned into nothing more than an over-sprawled suburb, just with more bad bars.


3. Miami

What can we say about Miami except that it brings out the worst cheesy tendencies in people of all races, creeds, and colors. If you want to see blacks, whites, and latinos at their intellectual lowest, than Miami is just for you. Gaudy neon, bad dance clubs, dopey fashionistas, y'all come back now ya hear!


2. Phoenix

Only an idiot would want to spend most of the year trapped in air conditioning. Such an idiot usually moves to Phoenix. Then this dope will say, "Yeah but it's a dry heat." To make matters worse there is absolutely nothing to do in Phoenix besides run from your car's air conditioning to your house's air conditioning. Or you can play golf. Otherwise, they should tear the whole metropolis down and let it just rot back into the desert.


1. Cleveland

The obvious choice for worst city to live in is Cleveland. Not so much because of the lack of culture. Nor is it the lack of a thriving night life. And it is not the constant economic pall that looms over the city. What really makes Cleveland the worst city in all of America is the fact that it shares many of these qualities with other cities - such as its Ohio Twin, Toledo - and refuses to acknowledge it. As a recent article in the Washington Post pointed out, Cleveland peaked in the 1930s and has been on the downslide ever since. To make matters worse, the Plain Dealer - the local city newspaper - found that the higher a young person's education degree, the more likely said person was to move out of Cleveland. In fact it was one of the only three major metropolitan areas in the 1990s to experience such a mass exodus of intelligence. In essence, smart people leave Cleveland while the dumb stay to crank out children and watch the Indians games. Now if you said this to the average Clevelandite, they would call you an a-hole, pound their fist on the table, and insist that Cleveland has just as much to offer as New York City or Chicago. It's almost as if the citizens have become desensitized to the obvious. At least the Toledoans have a clue, but Clevelandites like their city just the way it is and they're damn proud of it…with the closed steel mills, and bad wing joints, and those horrible blues bands that all play a terrible rendition of "Mustang Sally."

[molly747]

1. Newark, NJ
2. Houston, TX
3. New Orleans, LA

Watch it, that's my home town you're talking about. And I believe he wasn't referring to only crime rates. It has beautiful architecture and culture, great food, and interesting people. Therefore it doesn't belong on the list.

Whoever mentioned Camden, NJ... I've heard that too. People from my school went on a charity mission a couple years ago, and those who went could choose whether they went to a third-world country or Camden. That was my first clue.

I apologize. I love New Orleans to death. Great food, great bars. My uncle lived there for 10 years and had to leave bc of the crime and sewage problems (he lived in the French Quarter).

[Nawlins]

1. Newark, NJ
2. Houston, TX
3. New Orleans, LA

Watch it, that's my home town you're talking about. And I believe he wasn't referring to only crime rates. It has beautiful architecture and culture, great food, and interesting people. Therefore it doesn't belong on the list.

Whoever mentioned Camden, NJ... I've heard that too. People from my school went on a charity mission a couple years ago, and those who went could choose whether they went to a third-world country or Camden. That was my first clue.

I apologize. I love New Orleans to death. Great food, great bars. My uncle lived there for 10 years and had to leave bc of the crime and sewage problems (he lived in the French Quarter).

Thanks. :hug: Hey, I'll admit to the crime and sewage problems, and probably one of the worst school systems in the country, but it does have its good points too.

[molly747]

On a lighter note...

Where are the best places to live in the United States?

Monumental new book ranks cities for desirability

Tuesday, May 18, 2004
By Robert J. Bruss
Inman News

Before you move to a new town, first read the outstanding new book, "Cities Ranked and Rated," by Bert Sperling and Peter Sander. It is sure to open your eyes to considerations most people don't evaluate when moving to unfamiliar areas.

However, if you are looking for the ideal, perfect place to work or retire, this book won't reveal it. Instead it provides cold, hard statistics and lets the reader learn all they can in concise summaries about each city under consideration.

Sperling and Sander explain their book follows the "80-20 rule," focusing on 20 percent of the total places that represent 80 percent of the most popular choices. They rank 331 U.S. metropolitan areas, 27 Canadian metropolitan areas and 45 "emerging" U.S. metropolitan areas.

The rankings are based on composite scores of nine statistical attributes plus one subjective appraisal on quality of life. Then the authors apply compensating adjustments so one bad factor, such as harsh weather, doesn't unfavorably skew the results for an otherwise desirable town.

The nine principal ranking factors are the economy and jobs, cost of living, climate, education, health and healthcare, crime, transportation, leisure activity, arts and culture, and quality of life. Each metropolitan area is ranked in each category, often with wildly varying results.

Based on these criteria, where are the best U.S. places to live? The results will surprise you. The "top 10" are Charlottesville, Va.; Santa Fe, N.M.; San Luis Obispo, Calif.; Santa Barbara, Calif.; Honolulu, Hawaii; Ann Arbor, Mich.; Atlanta, Ga.; Asheville, N.C.; Reno, Nev.; and Corvallis, Ore. Why no Florida towns? Could it be the hot, muggy summers?

Based on the same criteria, where are the worst U.S. places to live? They are Laredo, Texas; Stockton, Calif.; Newburgh, N.Y.; Merced, Calif.; Kankakee, Ill.; Lawrence, Mass.; Pine Bluff, Ark.; Gadsden, Ala.; Anniston, Ala.; and Fort Smith, Ark.

The authors' evaluation for each city is brutally honest, listing the pros and cons of each locality. For example, they praise Charlottesville, Va., as being clean and heavily shaded, with most areas accessible by foot or bicycle, with college amenities. But they quickly mention the high home prices, lack of airline service and rapid growth.

But last-ranked Laredo, Texas, fares poorly in its description. "The Spanish-colonial city center has been reinvigorated following a commercial boom but there is still little to do. At 111 days per year above 90 degrees, the city is one of the hottest in the United States. The Cost of Living Index is low at 77.3, but the city's constant bustle, lack of intellectual stimulation, poverty, high crime rate and heat will try most anyone's patience."

Fortunately, most of the book offers a positive, upbeat note, with lots of fascinating statistics about each city reviewed. Although each city is profiled with its individual statistics, the book is full of interesting rankings, such as best cities for jobs (Billings, Mont.); lowest cost of living (Casper, Wyo.); best climate (Salinas, Calif.); education attainment (Boston, Mass.); healthcare (Rochester, Minn.); lowest crime (Danbury, Conn.); best transportation (San Francisco, Calif.); leisure activities (New York, N.Y.); arts and culture (New York, N.Y.); and best quality of life (Madison, Wis.).

According to the authors, most people don't move primarily for the climate. Of course, they take it into consideration. But Sperling and Sander explain an area's "character" plays a major role in relocations, such as look and feel, activities, services, crime rate, and healthcare availability.

This eye-opener, extremely well-researched book, presented in a very appealing format, should be required reading for any person considering relocating to a new city for employment or retirement. The key information provided in one easy source is priceless.

Chapter topics include "The Places"; "The Rankings"; "The Categories"; "The States"; "Principal U.S. Metropolitan Areas"; "Canada Metropolitan Areas"; and "Emerging U.S. Metropolitan Areas."

Although the cities profiled in this monumental new book will likely challenge their rankings, this factual survey of the best and worst places to live is the most complete and up-to-date. The content presented in easy-to-understand tables and summaries is invaluable. On my scale of one to 10, this outstanding new book rates an off the chart 12. (742 WORDS).

"Cities Ranked and Rated," by Bert Sperling and Peter Sander (Wiley Publishing Inc., Hoboken, NJ), 2004, $24.99, 817 pages; available in stock or by special order at local bookstores, public libraries and www.amazon.com.

[molly747]

Thanks. :hug: Hey, I'll admit to the crime and sewage problems, and probably one of the worst school systems in the country, but it does have its good points too.[/quote]

Ah, I knew quite a few Jesuit boys back in the day... good times... ;)

[Nawlins]

Thanks. :hug: Hey, I'll admit to the crime and sewage problems, and probably one of the worst school systems in the country, but it does have its good points too.

Ah, I knew quite a few Jesuit boys back in the day... good times... ;)

Hahaha... yeah. Alot of the guys I was in grade school with went to Jesuit.

[Jack Mehoff]

We all know west coast > *all

[Nawlins]

I didn't see Austin, TX on that list, Molly. That's a pretty awesome city.

[ibstolidude]

1. Newark, NJ
2. Houston, TX
3. New Orleans, LA

Watch it, that's my home town you're talking about. And I believe he wasn't referring to only crime rates. It has beautiful architecture and culture, great food, and interesting people. Therefore it doesn't belong on the list.

Whoever mentioned Camden, NJ... I've heard that too. People from my school went on a charity mission a couple years ago, and those who went could choose whether they went to a third-world country or Camden. That was my first clue.

BACK OFF New Orleans

[Nawlins]

1. Newark, NJ
2. Houston, TX
3. New Orleans, LA

Watch it, that's my home town you're talking about. And I believe he wasn't referring to only crime rates. It has beautiful architecture and culture, great food, and interesting people. Therefore it doesn't belong on the list.

Whoever mentioned Camden, NJ... I've heard that too. People from my school went on a charity mission a couple years ago, and those who went could choose whether they went to a third-world country or Camden. That was my first clue.

BACK OFF New Orleans

Haha... uh, thanks.

[Marsuitor]

The Norwegian nomination for worst place IMO goes to Oslo. What a grey, dirty, crime infested, drug infested, expensive, noisy, soulless hole... Nah, i'd stick to Bergen anyday... ;)

[molly747]

I didn't see Austin, TX on that list, Molly. That's a pretty awesome city.

No kidding. Austin is the coolest city in the whole world. My sister lives there.

[big80a2]

1: Almere
it has 4 stations where these trains stop and in every station there are only druged kids.
The city is a "copy paste" city If you are at one part of the city and would and sudenly droped somewhere else you will notice only the streetname changed.... they also have the worst street names like: michel jackson street rofl

2: Urk
this is a smal city that was a island 65 years ago but they still think they are separeted. every person born there is raised with a sigaret and becomes a fisherman. They have rushhour at 1 o clock in the afternoon, because they all go home from work to eat warm at home in the midday.

3: Leeuwarden
It just sucks to live there far from there "real" world....
they ar walking 6 years behind with the rest of the netherlands.
i think at this point they just got there 128K modems installed rofl

4: Amsterdam
Well it got good points, so thats why it's in 4th but those drugs toerists and whores toerist are really anoying (really like to kick them at times ;) ). Also it's a druged place.

well proberly all othere Duth will put my city on number one ;)
but I won't tell untill they post ;)

further more some east german city's suck too...

[Saint]

Fintin your from Detroit??

[AFACadet]

BAH!!!!


Seattle is one of the best places in the country :backhand:

[UkrainianAmerican]

Out of all the US cities Ive been too, NYC is by far the safest. I wouldn't really be looking forward to spending the night on the streets of Philly.

[NcDeuce]

Memphis, TN (Sorry Elvis)
Atlanta, GA (Braves = cool, bars = crappy, Marietta = cool, outskirts of Marietta = ghetto, crappy, & bad)
New York City (It's okay for a day or two but the traffic, the crappy driving, the accents, the ghettos, lack of green = bad)

Edit: Ah yes, Philly deserves to be on here.

[Ratamacue]

New York City (It's okay for a day or two but the traffic, the crappy driving, the accents, the ghettos, lack of green = bad)

Only a retard tries to drive in NYC. There's no reason to given the subway/train system running through the entire city. There are ghettos in every city as well and obviously you've never seen Central Park. As for accents, I know people who find southern accents equally as irritating. Definitely not one of the worst cities in the US.

[NcDeuce]

New York City (It's okay for a day or two but the traffic, the crappy driving, the accents, the ghettos, lack of green = bad)

Only a retard tries to drive in NYC. There's no reason to given the subway/train system running through the entire city. There are ghettos in every city as well and obviously you've never seen Central Park. As for accents, I know people who find southern accents equally as irritating. Definitely not one of the worst cities in the US.

Yeah, actually Central Park was basically the only green spot besides the grass at Yankee Stadium & Shea Stadium. You don't have to drive through the streets to notice the awful traffic and questionable driving skills that make you wonder how these people passed their driving tests. Besides, NYC has pollution + ghettos written all over it.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Bronx has a LOT of green. Riverdale. Bronx Zoo. Pelham Parkway.

[EvanL]

New York City (It's okay for a day or two but the traffic, the crappy driving, the accents, the ghettos, lack of green = bad)

Only a retard tries to drive in NYC. There's no reason to given the subway/train system running through the entire city. There are ghettos in every city as well and obviously you've never seen Central Park. As for accents, I know people who find southern accents equally as irritating. Definitely not one of the worst cities in the US.

Yeah, actually Central Park was basically the only green spot besides the grass at Yankee Stadium & Shea Stadium. You don't have to drive through the streets to notice the awful traffic and questionable driving skills that make you wonder how these people passed their driving tests. Besides, NYC has pollution + ghettos written all over it.
Let me guess. You had a bad experience with a transvestite in a tree right? And you felt violated and decided you would never come back?
Good then.
Dont.
Its sure a hell of alot better than Memphis TN.
And like Rat said, Only and idiot would drive in NYC. I take it you tried driving? Idiot.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

I will be coming to green and pleasant Glen Cove this year I know its not NYC but its close enough. :)

[NcDeuce]

No, I didn't drive through NYC. Way to make assumptions, idiot. Yes, I would say it would be a little better than Memphis...if you saw the other cities I put down.


bad experience with a transvestite in a tree right?

No, I take it you did though? Or wait, you run to a park to fight an internet forum member? Ah ha.

rofl

Edit: Oh, have you even visited Memphis?

[EvanL]

Try to stop off and see the city. Its awesome.
Sadly, im leaving NYC in exactly a month. But its not too hard for me to return here so its all good.

[Haiw]

We don't have ****ty cities, sorry.

[cmd]

In Finland there's only one choice: Turku :D

I simply couldn't agree more! :D

However, the books of history tell that the people of Turku have done 3 good things:

1. They burnt the city.
2. They burnt the city, again.
3. They made a road which bypasses it.

Agreed, Turku it is.

Screw you all, Turku is the real capital of Finland p-)

[Denat]

In Poland the worst city is Lódź.
Horrible city with an old awful industrial architecture, true ****hole, the place of the Evil ;)
Ambulance crews were killing people there instead of giving them proper medical assistance and they were doing that just to get money from the funeral industry. Sad but true.

[Marmot1]

Now having said that I will say my top 3 would be
1. Detroit (was born there and it still looks like Berlin after WW2)
2. Baltimore
3. Philadelphia

Well I'v been in Philis and Baltimore, I will be in detroit next friday so then I will tell you what I think about it..

in poland...

Katowice
Płock
Minsk Mazowiecki

[radon]

http://www.aerophoto-schiphol.nl/pics/almere.jpg
almere rofl

[Haiw]

How could you judge that from one photo? (And the whole city is a whole lot bigger...and not that boring of course (we don't build our cities in square blocks))

[Midtown]

I wanna go back to NYC so bad, I ****in love it there. Im one of those people that need to constantly be doing ****, I have a horrible attention span. Unless stoned, then **** it, pass the pringles dude.

[radon]

I cant , but that looks very depressing. I google every city mentioned here because i have never been in those places.

But look at that photo rofl barracks

[Haiw]

I cant , but that looks very depressing. I google every city mentioned here because i have never been in those places.

But look at that photo rofl barracks
More like 3-story houses built connected to eachother. Propably doesn't look that bad down there, and I must say this is the first time I have seen anything like this in the Netherlands. :D

[Fintin]

detroit...flaming asshole of the US...

http://www.sph.umich.edu/hsat/hw-wood.jpg

http://www.sph.umich.edu/hsat/detroit-river.jpg

http://www.powerpointart.com/powerpoint-backgrounds-samples/detroit-background-samples/rivertown-2.jpg

http://www.powerpointart.com/powerpoint-backgrounds-samples/detroit-background-samples/rivertown.jpg

http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/police/images/aban_hom.jpg

http://www.metrotimes.com/houseofweek/photos/022702.jpg

http://www.metrotimes.com/houseofweek/photos/032002.jpg

anyone want to come visit good old fintin...i hate this place

[moughoun]

Dublin or Limerick take your pick, Dublin on a weekend make's fallujah look like disney land you'd be killed by ****ing gang's of 12 year old's and in Limerick there is a massive family feud going on with a few dozen dead, automatic weapon's, car bomb's you name it their doing it

[Operation Ivy]

We all know west coast > *all

Hellz No :D

[FDF_Hemppis]

In Finland there's only one choice: Turku :D

I simply couldn't agree more! :D

However, the books of history tell that the people of Turku have done 3 good things:

1. They burnt the city.
2. They burnt the city, again.
3. They made a road which bypasses it.

Agreed, Turku it is.

Screw you all, Turku is the real capital of Finland p-)

Capital of assholes maybe, but nothing else. :cantbeli:

[Haiw]

detroit...flaming asshole of the US...

http://www.sph.umich.edu/hsat/hw-wood.jpg

http://www.sph.umich.edu/hsat/detroit-river.jpg

http://www.powerpointart.com/powerpoint-backgrounds-samples/detroit-background-samples/rivertown-2.jpg

http://www.powerpointart.com/powerpoint-backgrounds-samples/detroit-background-samples/rivertown.jpg

http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/police/images/aban_hom.jpg

http://www.metrotimes.com/houseofweek/photos/022702.jpg

http://www.metrotimes.com/houseofweek/photos/032002.jpg

anyone want to come visit good old fintin...i hate this place
Looks like Poland... p-)

[Tygryssek]

Rather like Kosovo 99 attacked by barbarianz.

[memphiz]

1. Nunavut
2. Sudbury
3. West Hastings street in Vancouver :P

nunavut isnt a city, and whats wrong with it? other than the cold

id say churchill, manatoba (north, lots of bugs)
kingston, ontario
deadmonton, alberta
Churchill is also the polar bear capital of Canada ;)

my 3
1. Any city in the East Kootenays(BC), beautiful veiws a stuff but horrible job market and there are wannabe cowboys/rednecks everywhere, ,and alot of inbreads.

2.Vancouver its full of crack heads, whores, and people who kill whores. but beautiful veiws

3. Trail, BC. has horrible smell, there is a coal plant or whatever in the middle of the city.

Yeah I dont like BC that much.

http://www.metrotimes.com/houseofweek/photos/032002.jpg
why are these houses boarded up like this?

[catdat]

You guys naming Philly is just crazy! What are you scared of Philly? It's the city of Brotherly Love man!.

I wouldn't want to "spend the night on the street" of any North Eastern City but Philly is not worse than NYC or DC in crime, pollution or general decrepitness.

My worst US cities are:

Newark (far worse than Camden)
Pittsburgh (way worse than Philly, NYC or DC)
Detroit
Camden (NJ gets two)
Oakland (I promise - you don't want to spend the night here)
Belle Glade (sounds like it smells nice - NOT)
Any town on the Tex/Mex border

[EvanL]

I hate going to Jersey. the only good thing about it is the shore.
Anybody here whose ever been to the shore know the Windmill Restaurant in Long Branch? ****ing best chili cheese fries in the world.

[moughoun]

I hate going to Jersey. the only good thing about it is the shore.
Anybody here whose ever been to the shore know the Windmill Restaurant in Long Branch? f*** best chili cheese fries in the world.

Chili cheese fries??? :(

[Ria]

I hate going to Jersey. the only good thing about it is the shore.
Anybody here whose ever been to the shore know the Windmill Restaurant in Long Branch? f*** best chili cheese fries in the world.

I love their boardwalks :)

[EvanL]

I hate going to Jersey. the only good thing about it is the shore.
Anybody here whose ever been to the shore know the Windmill Restaurant in Long Branch? f*** best chili cheese fries in the world.

Chili cheese fries??? :(
Yeh. The official state food of new jersey :D
haha
its great
but loaded with fat and cholestoral. Typical heart attack food.

[Mark Sman]

I'm telling ya, East St. Louis, takes the crap cake. http://www.builtstlouis.net/eaststlouis/eaststl01.html

[molly747]

I hate going to Jersey. the only good thing about it is the shore.
Anybody here whose ever been to the shore know the Windmill Restaurant in Long Branch? f*** best chili cheese fries in the world.

I love their boardwalks :)

South NJ is nicer, more wooded, upscale areas. My parents lived on McGuire AFB for 2 years before my sister and I were born. They loved it. But north NJ? Forgeddaboutit.

[Fintin]

syracuse new york...its in upstate...the economy there went in the dumps with reagan....and hasnt seen the light of day still...carrier air conditioning is based out of there but pulling out...only adding to the blight...its the city i was born in...i guess i just go from chit hole to chit hole

[Ratamacue]

I hate going to Jersey. the only good thing about it is the shore.
Anybody here whose ever been to the shore know the Windmill Restaurant in Long Branch? f*** best chili cheese fries in the world.

I love their boardwalks :)

South NJ is nicer, more wooded, upscale areas. My parents lived on McGuire AFB for 2 years before my sister and I were born. They loved it. But north NJ? Forgeddaboutit.

My aunt and uncle live in Sussex which is way up north, and that's a rather nice rural area, alot like upstate NY. But I agree, for the most part the north is a dump (some nice suburban towns in the area though).

[Seoulstriker]

Rio Linda.
East St. Louis
San Francisco
Oakland
Los Angeles
Hollywood
Oak Park
Willmette
Maywood
NYC
Flint
Peoria

[caspermeister]

1. Nunavut
2. Sudbury
3. West Hastings street in Vancouver :P

nunavut isnt a city, and whats wrong with it? other than the cold

id say churchill, manatoba (north, lots of bugs)
kingston, ontario
deadmonton, alberta
Churchill is also the polar bear capital of Canada ;)

my 3
1. Any city in the East Kootenays(BC), beautiful veiws a stuff but horrible job market and there are wannabe cowboys/rednecks everywhere, ,and alot of inbreads.

2.Vancouver its full of crack heads, whores, and people who kill whores. but beautiful veiws

3. Trail, BC. has horrible smell, there is a coal plant or whatever in the middle of the city.

Yeah I dont like BC that much.

http://www.metrotimes.com/houseofweek/photos/032002.jpg
why are these houses boarded up like this?

Vancouver its full of crack heads, whores, and people who kill whores. but beautiful veiws -> Hell No. Only in Hasting st.
Vancouver is a big city and like other big cities in the world, there is an area that has these type of people (crack heads, whores, etc.) Although the traffic is bad, I consider Vancouver is mild compare to LA.

[big80a2]

I cant , but that looks very depressing. I google every city mentioned here because i have never been in those places.

But look at that photo rofl barracks
More like 3-story houses built connected to eachother. Propably doesn't look that bad down there, and I must say this is the first time I have seen anything like this in the Netherlands. :D

I't really sucks hahah come there everyday..............

Almere is worst...

There is also a new term used among cityarcitect's: Veralmeresering
It meens the copy past culture of building rofl

there is a dergree of change after 250 the same houses they build a new type....

well not all of The Netherlands is like this. They realized it sucks and they are now looking to more interesting living areas.

[memphiz]

1. Nunavut
2. Sudbury
3. West Hastings street in Vancouver :P

nunavut isnt a city, and whats wrong with it? other than the cold

id say churchill, manatoba (north, lots of bugs)
kingston, ontario
deadmonton, alberta
Churchill is also the polar bear capital of Canada ;)

my 3
1. Any city in the East Kootenays(BC), beautiful veiws a stuff but horrible job market and there are wannabe cowboys/rednecks everywhere, ,and alot of inbreads.

2.Vancouver its full of crack heads, whores, and people who kill whores. but beautiful veiws

3. Trail, BC. has horrible smell, there is a coal plant or whatever in the middle of the city.

Yeah I dont like BC that much.

http://www.metrotimes.com/houseofweek/photos/032002.jpg
why are these houses boarded up like this?

Vancouver its full of crack heads, whores, and people who kill whores. but beautiful veiws -> Hell No. Only in Hasting st.
Vancouver is a big city and like other big cities in the world, there is an area that has these type of people (crack heads, whores, etc.) Although the traffic is bad, I consider Vancouver is mild compare to LA.
Oh yeah its definitly better than LA

[sethen]

1. Washington, D.C.
2. Newark, N.J.
3.Columbia, S.C.
4. Fayetteville/Fort Bragg, N.C.
5. Hot Springs, AR.
6. Monroe, LA.
8.Memphis, Tn.
9. West Memphis, AR.
10. Bladenboro. N.C. (not a city, but still a ****ehole!)

[memphiz]

Hmm seems like alot of you dislike Memphis

[molly747]

Memphis can suck, just like any town, but there are plenty of cool clubs and bars that not everyone knows about--lots of great blues music. You have to know where to look. Memphis isn't one of those towns (like Atlanta) with a Pottery Barn and an O'Charley's on every corner. There's no bottled atmosphere put there by some corporate strip mall.

[scott]

1. Nunavut
2. Sudbury
3. West Hastings street in Vancouver :P

nunavut isnt a city, and whats wrong with it? other than the cold

id say churchill, manatoba (north, lots of bugs)
kingston, ontario
deadmonton, alberta
Churchill is also the polar bear capital of Canada ;)

my 3
1. Any city in the East Kootenays(BC), beautiful veiws a stuff but horrible job market and there are wannabe cowboys/rednecks everywhere, ,and alot of inbreads.

2.Vancouver its full of crack heads, whores, and people who kill whores. but beautiful veiws

3. Trail, BC. has horrible smell, there is a coal plant or whatever in the middle of the city.

Yeah I dont like BC that much.

http://www.metrotimes.com/houseofweek/photos/032002.jpg
why are these houses boarded up like this?

Vancouver its full of crack heads, whores, and people who kill whores. but beautiful veiws -> Hell No. Only in Hasting st.
Vancouver is a big city and like other big cities in the world, there is an area that has these type of people (crack heads, whores, etc.) Although the traffic is bad, I consider Vancouver is mild compare to LA.
Oh yeah its definitly better than LA

well... might want to expand that to east van, including hastings
the crackwhores and heroin addicts of denman and main streets would feel excluded :P

[memphiz]

Memphis can suck, just like any town, but there are plenty of cool clubs and bars that not everyone knows about--lots of great blues music. You have to know where to look. Memphis isn't one of those towns (like Atlanta) with a Pottery Barn and an O'Charley's on every corner. There's no bottled atmosphere put there by some corporate strip mall.
Hmm..interesting

[dhfactory]

Darwin, Australia. = Full of Abo's

[ShotOver]

Yeah, Darwin :lol:

haha, dont bring anything that shines there.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Darwin is a raging ****hole.

[digrar]

Darwins alright, sort of, you can hardly call it a city anyway, more like a big country town.
I'm reaching now but it is full of good Army people and it's also the beer drinking capital of the world per capitia.
http://i12.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/bf/af/f5_1_b.JPG
http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/c1/24/e2_1.JPG
Darwin stubbies, 2 litres each.

[chauncy republicans]

Gary, Indiana
Rockford, Illinois