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Rudolph
04-10-2008, 04:21 AM
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,,2-7-12_2303026,00.html

Rice: Get ANC off blacklist
09/04/2008 22:35 - (SA)


Washington - US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Wednesday it was time to remove former SA president Nelson Mandela and his party from a US blacklist drawn up during the apartheid era.

"I really do hope that we can remove these restrictions on the ANC," Rice told a Senate committee, referring to the blacklist on SA ruling African National Congress (ANC) party.

"This is a country with which we have now excellent relations, South Africa," Rice said.

"But it is really a rather embarrassing matter that I still have to waive in my own counterpart, the foreign minister of SA, not to mention the great leader Nelson Mandela," she said.

Howard Berman, chair of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, recently introduced a bill aimed at removing from any US databases "any notation that would characterise the ANC and its leaders as terrorists", his website said.

"It is shameful that the US still treats the ANC this way based solely on its designation as a terrorist organisation by the old apartheid South African regime," Berman said in a statement last Friday.

"Amazingly, Nelson Mandela still needs to get a special waiver to enter the US based on his courageous leadership of the ANC. What an indignity. This legislation will wipe it away," he said.
No date has been given for voting on the bill, which the House committee believes will be easily adopted in Congress, with support from the US State Department.

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Yeah, but in a few years they are gonna have to put the same travel restrictions back as they did with the ZANU-PF in Zimbabwe.

TheKiwi
04-10-2008, 04:24 AM
Open to correction here, but wasn't Mandela sentanced to jail because of his involvement in a bomb plot? Regardless of his coversion to non-violence later, that sounds like terrorism to me.

Rudolph
04-10-2008, 04:32 AM
Open to correction here, but wasn't Mandela sentanced to jail because of his involvement in a bomb plot? Regardless of his coversion to non-violence later, that sounds like terrorism to me.

That is why Amnesty International couldn't help him, because treason doesn't count.

Here is the document partly responsible for the arrest of the senior ANC members back in the early 60's, it outlines the proposed coup de tat.

Operation Mayibye (http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/history/mk/mayibuye.html)

wilhelm
04-10-2008, 06:07 AM
Open to correction here, but wasn't Mandela sentanced to jail because of his involvement in a bomb plot? Regardless of his coversion to non-violence later, that sounds like terrorism to me.

Quite correct. Something that is now swept under the carpet. PW Botha offered to release him numerous times during the 1980's if only he publically renounce violence. He never did. He and the ANC were put on that terrorism list for a reason.

Having said that, he did voluntarily relinquish power after 2 years at the helm, stating that he was no politician.

Bongopete
04-10-2008, 12:14 PM
Amusing title....Mandela taken off black list.

the_hog
04-10-2008, 02:39 PM
Terr to statesman, thats what. The whole world loves this guy and do not know or care what he and his terrorist friends did, putting limpet mines in the dust bins in wimpy bars and allong the streets in Johannesburg. All the same these people, One day that arsehole Jerry Adams will be president of Ireland, same difference.

The Balkan
04-10-2008, 03:22 PM
Lol @ Nelson Mandela being a terrorist.

Ichabod
04-10-2008, 05:39 PM
LOL the title of the thread sounds like he has some serious banking debts...

futurepilot2004
04-10-2008, 05:58 PM
. All the same these people, One day that arsehole Jerry Adams will be president of Ireland, same difference.

that`ll never happen