Kosovar Albanians Killed Serbs for Organs(?)

[achilles]

BELGRADE, Serbia — Serbia's war crimes prosecutor is looking into reports that dozens of Serbs captured by rebels during the war in Kosovo were killed so their organs could be trafficked, the prosecutor's office said Friday.

The Serbian prosecutor's office said it received "informal statements" from investigators at the U.N. tribunal in The Hague, Netherlands, that dozens of Serbs imprisoned by Kosovo Albanian rebels were taken to neighboring Albania in 1999 and killed so their organs could be harvested and sold to international traffickers.

Bruno Vekaric, the Serbian prosecutor's spokesman, said later on B92 radio that Serbian war crimes investigators have also received their own information about alleged organ trafficking, but not enough for a court case. Vekaric said Serb investigators also received reports suggesting there might be mass graves in Albania containing the bodies of the Serb victims.

Serbian media reported that the issue was brought into the open in a book written by former U.N. war crimes prosecutor Carla Del Ponte that is to be published in Italy on April 3.

According to Serbia's Beta news agency, which carried parts of the book in Serbian, Del Ponte said her investigators had been informed that some 300 Serbs were killed for organ trafficking.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340369,00.html


Former chief prosecutor at the International Court of Justice in the Hague has given details of suspected atrocities by ethnic Albanians in Kosovo in 1999. Carla Del Ponte’s book ‘The Hunt: Me and War crimes’ claims that before killing Serbs and members of other ethnic communities, Kosovo Albanians removed their organs to sell for transplants.

Over 1,300 Kosovo Serbs in addition to those for whom we know they have been killed and whose remains were handed over to their families by the U.N.M.I.K during the past 8 years, are still listed as missing. In some cases the entire families were kidnapped by the K.L.A at some point during the 1998-1999 war, and after U.N and NATO took over the administration and security of the southern Serbian province. These people were taken away in an unknown direction and, for all we know, disappeared from the face of the earth.

Over the years, we have learned that a number of kidnapped Kosovo Serb girls and women have been used as *** slaves, kept under the lock and key in the dark moldy cellars of Albanian bar and brothel owners, underfed, repeatedly raped and beaten, until they are deemed no longer useful and killed like dogs.


Vladan Batic, Serbia's former justice minister, said: "If her allegations are true, then this is the most monstrous crime since the times of Mengele, and it must be made a priority, not only of the domestic judiciary but also of the Hague Tribunal." The book reports a visit by Hague tribunal investigators to a house south of the Albanian town of Burrel where they found traces of blood across a wide area, as well as medical equipment.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/11/wserb111.xml

Even the thought that some of those responsible for those alleged attrocities are members of the current "Kosovar Government" upsets my stomach.

[Mate]

Old news....
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=131405&highlight=kosovo+organs

[achilles]

Old news....
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=131405&highlight=kosovo+organs

Not according to the British "Telegraph".


Serb prisoners 'were stripped of their organs in Kosovo war'
By Harry de Quetteville in Berlin and Malcolm Moore in Rome
Last Updated: 2:38am BST 14/04/2008

[KoTeMoRe]

Not according to the British "Telegraph".

Really achilles tis old news even Carla got that.

[achilles]

Guys, if the topic makes you uncomfortable lets close it down, and please accept my sincerest apologies.

[KoTeMoRe]

Guys, if the topic makes you uncomfortable lets close it down, and please accept my sincerest apologies.

No why closing it down? I mean you posted it, tis your right mate. However this is disgusting if true. No matter how hard people will bragg about serbian acts, this will just go down in flames with their moral high ground and the Kosovar Provisional Authority.

[Sanat-e-naft]

I dont think this is a bad discussion, now if we could only get the people who are talking about this crap in other posts to post here and stop wasting our time in threads that have nothing to do with Organ theft. Silly Balkans.

[KoTeMoRe]

I dont think this is a bad discussion, now if we could only get the people who are talking about this crap in other posts to post here and stop wasting our time in threads that have nothing to do with Organ theft. Silly Balkans.

We're the antithesis of humanity...revolutionized.

[achilles]

Really achilles tis old news even Carla got that.

You mean this Carla?
http://soulpower.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/bruni1.jpg

If yes...well.....

http://www.t-arty.com/images/designslarge/idhi****ealclubbing.jpg

[Pleonasm]

No way, achilles. Sarkozy recognized Kosovo, so for me it would be treason. :)

--

But, ehem, let's return to the serious topic.


Russia ups pressure on ex-war crimes prosecutor Del Ponte


21:57 | 14/ 04/ 2008 http://img.rian.ru/i/b_print.gif (http://en.rian.ru/world/20080414/105052868-print.html)
STRASBOURG, April 14 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's delegation to PACE has gathered sufficient signatures to force an investigation into controversial claims made by former Hague Tribunal prosecutor Carla Del Ponte in her book.
On Tuesday, Russia's Foreign Ministry asked the office of the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia to provide an explanation and details of crimes described in a book by Del Ponte, who stepped down as the UN's chief war crimes prosecutor in January.
The tribunal confirmed on April 11 that it has received the Russian ministry's request.
In her book entitled The Hunt: Me and War Criminals, Carla del Ponte described atrocities against Kosovo Serbs and other ethnic groups committed by the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) during 1998-99.
Last Monday, the ministry denounced a ruling by the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia last week which saw a former Kosovo prime minister acquitted for crimes committed during the conflict between Kosovo and Serbia in 1998-1999.
Ramush Haradinaj, 39, a former KLA guerilla leader, accused of organizing the rape, murder and intimidation of thousands of Serbs and Roma was found 'not guilty' on April 3.
The ministry said in an official statement the verdict "questions the impartibility and objectiveness of the International Criminal Tribunal" and accused the court of "double standards" in their treatment of conflicts in the former Yugoslavia.
According to claims made in Del Ponte's book, Haradinaj was involved in the sale of organs taken from prisoners executed in Kosovo.
She alleges that there was sufficient evidence for prosecution of Kosovo Albanians involved in war crimes, but it "was nipped in the bud" focusing on "the crimes committed by Serbia."
The claims have caused a storm in Serbia and among the international community. The president of the Association of Families of Kidnapped and Missing Serbs in Kosovo, Simo Spasic, said he wanted to sue Carla Del Ponte for "concealing the crimes."



http://en.rian.ru/world/20080414/105052868.html

[KoTeMoRe]

You mean this Carla?
http://soulpower.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/bruni1.jpg

If yes...well.....

http://www.t-arty.com/images/designslarge/idhi****ealclubbing.jpg


With a Seal? Damn.

[Laworkerbee]

Old news....
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=131405&highlight=kosovo+organs

Save it, I've never heard of this before. Thank for posting it achilles.

I'm disgusted.

[Mate]

Save it, I've never heard of this before.
I`m surprised........

[Laworkerbee]

I've heard of it happening to Russian and other Eastern European women but to be honest I didn't put much faith in the articles since they always blamed the "Albanian mafia" what ever that is.

This is the first time I've heard of this happening to women who were "Spoils" of war. I find it hard to believe KFOR doesn't know anything about this or know where brothels are located.

[achilles]

Save it, I've never heard of this before. Thank for posting it achilles.

I'm disgusted.

I was disgusted too Laworkerbee.

Here is more on Carla Del Ponte's work:

The book entitled "The Hunt: Me and War Criminals" alleges those involved in the trafficking included leaders of the separatist Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) which fought Serbian forces at the time in mid-1999.

Del Ponte wrote that around 300 prisoners, including women and other Slavs, were kidnapped and transported from Kosovo to Albania, where they were locked up and had their organs removed.

"These organs were then sent from Tirana airport to private clinics to be implanted in patients abroad who paid," she said in the book, available in Italy under the title "La Caccia: Io e i criminali di guerra."

The victims were deprived of a kidney before being imprisoned again in sheds or other buildings until they were killed for other vital organs, she wrote in the chapter "Kosovo 1999-2007.""Leaders of an intermediate and high level of the KLA were well-informed and were implicated in an active way in the smuggling of the organs."

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci is one of three former senior KLA leaders to have served as Kosovo premier since the conflict. The others are his predecessor Agim Ceku and Ramush Haradinaj, recently freed by the UN court.
http://www.france24.com/en/20080414-del-ponte-justice-kosovo
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/12/warcrimes.kosovo

If this ex-thug, ex KLA drug traficker, whose authority as Kosovo's Prime Minister was recently recognized by most major countries, was also involved in this horrific splatter, then what can i say?

[baddy3]

This is the first time I've heard of this happening to women who were "Spoils" of war. I find it hard to believe KFOR doesn't know anything about this or know where brothels are located..

they know, they know:|.... been there quite too often not be offered a service of the receptionists cousin (who happens to be in the business). I was even offered commission for the persons under our protection, something like "discount for our liberators", this happened all over Kosova, last time two days ago in the Hotel Afa

[Crna Strela]

Sounds like a scene out of a Quentin Tarantino movie ... Maybe Hostel should've been depicted in Albania instead of Slovakia

[phoebus]

Trully horrible... :-(

[epictetus]

If this is true, it needs to be investigated and those responsible have the book thrown at them. I would never have thought of this happening in europe. It makes no sense, really to buy organs in the black market in europe. If you have that much money, go to Belgium, India, or better, China. Some of the details on the article seems unlikely. First the conditions in Albania medically are not good to horrible. Infections are common even after simple surgery. Taking a kidney out, closing it up and having the victim wait until needed again is crap. He would be dead by septic shock long before. Organ removal in a house is not a clean bussines. I am shocked really. As a I said above, this need to be investigated and those people need jail, or a bullet would actually be preferable. Lets bring the death penalty back to europe!!

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Bruno Vekaric, the Serbian prosecutor's spokesman, said later on B92 radio that Serbian war crimes investigators have also received their own information about alleged organ trafficking, but not enough for a court case. Vekaric said Serb investigators also received reports suggesting there might be mass graves in Albania containing the bodies of the Serb victims.The above in bold says it all for me yep not enough evidence for a court case which means no real proof, if we are talking 300 people then that in any other country would merit a full high court sitting.
That said I do believe that it has happened in the Balkans and the criminal elements on all sides are deeply involved.

[KET]

If this is true, it needs to be investigated and those responsible have the book thrown at them.
I don't think there's much to investigate.


I would never have thought of this happening in europe. It makes no sense, really to buy organs in the black market in europe. If you have that much money, go to Belgium, India, or better, China.
Maybe because it didn't.


Some of the details on the article seems unlikely. First the conditions in Albania medically are not good to horrible. Infections are common even after simple surgery. Taking a kidney out, closing it up and having the victim wait until needed again is crap.
And you would know this how? Have you ever been operated in Albania?



He would be dead by septic shock long before. Organ removal in a house is not a clean bussines. I am shocked really. As a I said above, this need to be investigated and those people need jail, or a bullet would actually be preferable. Lets bring the death penalty back to europe!!

It's probably not true, but that doesn't mean its not possible. I've read somewhere in a newspaper about 6 years ago of beggars in Albania and FYROM who were kindapped. They were killed and their organs were sold in Greece and Italy. However, that was it and nobody heard anything about it anymore. Maybe because they didn't have any relatives or something of that sort.

Other than that there's no proof that this happened. Nothing but words.

[Laworkerbee]

KET

Posts like yours make me believe this type of stuff has happened and continues to happen, you come in all bold and disclaim everything but offer nothing.

You have a lot in common with the Chinese :roll:

[KET]

KET

Posts like yours make me believe this type of stuff has happened and continues to happen, you come in all bold and disclaim everything but offer nothing.

You have a lot in common with the Chinese :roll:
I just told you that it is possible that it happened and I also told you why. However, when there's no evidence... well there's no evidence. I fail to see the similarity to the Chinese.

[epictetus]

I don't think there's much to investigate.

Maybe because it didn't.


When there's smoke, there's flame



And you would know this how? Have you ever been operated in Albania?

Yes as a matter of fact I have. Plus I have medical background.



It's probably not true, but that doesn't mean its not possible. I've read somewhere in a newspaper about 6 years ago of beggars in Albania and FYROM who were kindapped. They were killed and their organs were sold in Greece and Italy. However, that was it and nobody heard anything about it anymore. Maybe because they didn't have any relatives or something of that sort.

I don't know anything about this. It would make more sense to kidnap them and transport them than to remove and transport organs.


Other than that there's no proof that this happened. Nothing but words.

I agree a lot on of the claims were a bit much. But who knows.

[KET]

I don't know anything about this. It would make more sense to kidnap them and transport them than to remove and transport organs.

I would guess that it's easier to illegally transport an organ than a person.

[FlankerFlyer]

I just told you that it is possible that it happened and I also told you why. However, when there's no evidence... well there's no evidence. I fail to see the similarity to the Chinese.

Map to navigating the Balkans: Serbian war criminals whom Miss Del Ponte investigates did everything they stand accused of, real or imagined, but the crimes of Albanian war criminals investigated by the same Miss Del Ponte are “imagined, or in KET'S way dismissed as not evidentiary enough to be believable . That explains why the Albanian criminals are set free while Serbian ones are sentenced to 20+ years or discovered dead in their cells.

What's your reason to doubt the competency and the informations provided by the former Hague tribunal head prosecutor regarding this issue? If you want to get to the bottom of it wouldn't you agree it is necessary to conduct a detailed investigation of the facts cited by Del Ponte, with the aim of determining their veracity, rendering justice to the victims of the crimes and finding the criminals involved in these atrocities?? TOO MUCH TO ASK, when non-Albanians are alleged victims huh? I thought so.

As for actual thread, I got to say,well well well. For perhaps the first time in history, the mainstream media have deemed the dismemberment of Serbs newsworthy. More accurately, they have deemed newsworthy the dismemberment of the Serb and non-Serb victims of our friends, and almost all living Albanians’ great heroes, the KLA. (Recall the crowds cheering “KLA! KLA! KLA!” last month from Tirana to Pristina to Times Square.)



In its March 26 edition, Press Online published an excerpt from the testimony of one of Hague witnesses about Kosovo Serbs kidnapped by the KLA for organ harvesting…The Hague eyewitness, who personally took part in the harrowing ordeal, testified that trade with vital organs of the kidnapped Kosovo Serbs was conducted under a direct supervision of Hashim Thaci, the current ‘Premier’ of the fake mafia state in southern Serbia.
The witness, listed in the ICTY documentation under the protective code K-144, stated that kidnapping of the Serbs and harvesting their organs before they were killed was a “well organized and very profitable business”, conducted under the control of the KLA leaders and with the consent of the Albanian state officials.
…There was a precise documentation, all of the extracted organs were listed, along with the amounts of money charged. The reports were submitted to the KLA commanders, who submitted them in person to Hashim Thaci…


Albania, Mass Grave for Serbs
…He stated that the killed Serbs were buried in mass graves which were moved several times in 2000…”I have personally helped burying the Serbs there… When it was heard about the action and there was a danger of investigation being launched, this mass grave was opened, and the killed were moved to around dozen of other locations. Some remains were burned…”, [the] ICTY protected witness stated.


He also testified that there were few dozens of “used-up prostitutes” in the prison camps in northern Albania, who, after the medical examinations, were also mutilated and had their vital organs extracted before being killed. “There were also some Russian women, Romanians and Moldavians. I once asked about them. They told me that those are the whores who have done their jobs,” the ICTY witness said.


…Spasic said that Del Ponte was also informed about the telephone call he received in 2003, when a male who did not want to reveal his identity, told him about the things Albanians are doing to Serbs before they kill them. “He told me their vital organs are being extracted, heart and kidneys, and even the sperm, for sale in Western Europe and USA”, said Spasic.
…
Muslim Representative of Helsinki Committee Confirmed KFOR and UNMIK Knew About KLA Concentration Camps


The late President of the Raska region Helsinki Committee, Muslim Shefko Alomerovic was also pointing to the fact that Albanians held Kosovo-Metohija Serbs in concentration camps. His testimony was especially shocking for the foreigners, because it was coming from someone who could not be labeled a “pro-Serbian” source.
Alomerovic testified that Aljos Malja, the chief of the KLA secret police, [ran] all the concentration camps for Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija province, which existed in six locations, most often in boiler rooms, garages and cellars of the public buildings and private homes.


In the interview to the magazine “Reporter” given in April 2000, Alomerovic said: “KFOR and UNMIK are aware of the charges by the Sandzak Helsinki Committee. Committee has people who are employed with both KFOR and UNMIK, and these men confirmed that KFOR offices in Pristina, Pec and Kosovska Mitrovica have received the relevant documentation from the Committee. These are our men whom we trust and their testimony is a sufficient evidence that KFOR is aware of the concentration camps.”


Scott Taylor: Western Leaders and Media Know About Atrocities Against Serbs, but Prefer to Ignore Them
“In 1999 there were rumors in Kosovo that the vital organs of the kidnapped and missing Serbs are being sold, but they were discarded as a ‘Serb propaganda’,” said Scott Taylor, Canada’s military analyst and former member of the peacekeeping forces in Kosovo province in 1999.
…
“Nothing was published about the crimes against the Serbs that Albanians in some cases committed even in the plain view of foreign reporters and NATO troops,” said Taylor.



I'm curious to know,why was Del Ponte Waiting for Eight Years?
Why did she wait for eight years before publishing that? Is it a mere coincidence that allegations concerning not just unnamed Albanians, but quite particularly those that are in power, accusing them of having been involved in human organ trading and killing of innocent Serb civilians happen now?
Why did it not appear before the recognition of Kosovo? This is quite strange. The nervous reactions of some governments, including her own, the Swiss government, that chose to hurriedly dispatch her to Buenos Aires and gagged her from promoting new book,does not contribute to confidence on this issue.

[INAT]

I don't think there's much to investigate.


Maybe because it didn't.


And you would know this how? Have you ever been operated in Albania?


It's probably not true, but that doesn't mean its not possible. I've read somewhere in a newspaper about 6 years ago of beggars in Albania and FYROM who were kindapped. They were killed and their organs were sold in Greece and Italy. However, that was it and nobody heard anything about it anymore. Maybe because they didn't have any relatives or something of that sort.

Other than that there's no proof that this happened. Nothing but words.


http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/E/8/baghdadbob.jpg

No Serb organs were harvested right KET? Well you make a compelling argument.

@Flankerflyer I think she waited for 8 years because it would have made the so called indepedence of Kosovo-Metohija a bit
more shameful to the offending powers that be (if that is possible)It also allowed enough time to pass as to make any evidence gathering and forensic investigation very difficult.They did say that they found evidence of a house in northern Albania where they found traces of blood and other tell tale signs but investigation in Alabnia as Del Ponte claimed would be near impossible.Guess why?

[KET]

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/E/8/baghdadbob.jpg

No Serb organs were harvested right KET? Well you make a compelling argument.
lol well played... As I stated before, there is no proof. I don't think I can add anything else to it.

[INAT]

lol well played... As I stated before, there is no proof. I don't think I can add anything else to it.


Sure there is proof people that have been transplanted with a Serbian heart know the truth.:)

[FlankerFlyer]

lol well played... As I stated before, there is no proof. I don't think I can add anything else to it.


No evidence, no evidence echooes...After the case was cleansed of the witnesses through murder and intimidations, the process has been led to a false end.

[achilles]

lol well played... As I stated before, there is no proof. I don't think I can add anything else to it.

Its sad that you worry more about "proof" than the "extremely high possibility" that those attrocities took place.

[INAT]

Its sad that you worry more about "proof" than the "extremely high possibility" that those attrocities took place.


Good point if even one human had to die like that it is a evil act.
Just because there is no "proof" does not mean it did not occur.
I guess it comes down to what people will personally believe.I personally do not believe there were 7-8 thousand Muslims killed in Srebrenica I do believe however that there were summary executions by Serbian soldiers against those whom a few years before killed Serbs in the area.My point is that it is very much so possible that this death for organs story did occur.
If it was rumor why would Del Ponte risk writing about this.Whatever the truth is Serbs must always lose.That is the one constant no matter what.

[FlankerFlyer]

Guess why? Oh I'm guessing.Because in this case Hashim Thaci would have been behind the bars rather than the leader of the so-called independent Republic of Kosovo,if former prosecutor of the Hague [International War Crimes] Tribunal Carla Del Ponte would have decided a bit earlier to reveal what she had been silent about for a long time.

Anybody can now buy memoirs The Hunt: Me and War Criminals" about the Balkans conflict, published as a cheap softback. It costs only 20 euros to learn about horrific secrets which the former prosecutor of the Hague Tribunal was silent about for eight years. Carla Del Ponte rarely uses the first person singular ****oun and cites various sources while describing shocking episodes. For instance, it transpires that it was from journalists that she learnt that in summer 1999 Kosovo Liberation Army [KLA] gunmen, one of whose leaders was the incumbent prime minister of the region, Hashim Thaci, kidnapped people from Serb enclaves. Three hundred Serbs, Russians, Moldavians and Romanians were taken to northern Albania, to the area near the town of Burrel.According to book excerpt,the crimes described in Carla Del Ponte's book were known to the government and Balkans specialists and experts.It was not a secret to them that these crimes, comparable only to tortures in the Third Reich's concentration camps, were not the only ones committed against Serbs.Of course Carla Del Ponte knows more than she said in her book. She knew everything but still was always against the Serbs and did not conceal this

In the corner is picture of Albright's favorite terrorist, Hashim Thaci ,who is accused by Del Ponte of running a mass organ-harvesting atrocity against the Serbs kidnapped by the KLA in Kosovo province. For his grisly war crimes, Thaci was awarded by the West with a premiership over a NATO carved up state in Serbia..

[Johan M]

it must however be possible to find evidence IF these facts are true. For such a terrible thing, they would have needed surgeons, nurses, traders of the organs, foreign hospitals that knew that something was "wrong" with these organs etc...

Horrible story.

[achilles]

In the corner is picture of Albright's favorite terrorist, Hashim Thaci ,who is accused by Del Ponte of running a mass organ-harvesting atrocity against the Serbs kidnapped by the KLA in Kosovo province. For his grisly war crimes, Thaci was awarded by the West with a premiership over a NATO carved up state in Serbia..

I am sure Americans dont hear much about Thaci's curriculum vitae.

[Afro-European]

I am sure Americans dont hear much about Thaci's curriculum vitae.

Who installed him where he is?

[KET]

Who installed him where he is?

George Bush? NWO? Aliens? Tell me more!

http://planetquo.net/tinfoil%20(550%20x%20374).jpg

[Afro-European]

George Bush? NWO? Aliens? Tell me more!



You already know the answer to that question.

[achilles]

Who installed him where he is?

Its not the first time an American administration installs a thug, drug / organ / womens' traficker in the leadership of a puppet state.

The guy is, or lets say used to be, a full-time terrorist. The leader of UCK (KLA). This is not very compatible with the notion of "the war on terror", now is it?

Bah...double standards...good ol' politics...

[Laworkerbee]

Its not the first time an American administration installs a thug, drug / organ / womens' traficker in the leadership of a puppet state.

Can we leave Manuel Noriega out of this please p-)

[Nebelwerfer.]

Florence Hartmann today said in her column in Le Temps newspapers that Del Ponte's indications about organs trafficking are worth of despise because of lack of evidences.
Source (in croatian only): http://www.jutarnji.hr/clanak/art-2008,4,16,,116251.jl

[Afro-European]

I agree with ouy both Achilles and Lawor.The thug running that islamo-mafiacracy will someday in a way or another pay for his misdeeds.
The US,EU backing will not last forever.

[KET]

The thug running that islamo-mafiacracy will someday in a way or another pay for his misdeeds.


Islamo-mafiacracy? You're a joker! I would suggest you go to Kosovo and see for yourself. Just make sure you stay away from public stonings and... oh yeah the narcotic bazzar.

[INAT]

Here is a bundle of sources that offer some interesting points.
Serbian authorities gave UNMIK various information that
they refused to investigate.
From RepublicanRiot.com (http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1526)
by Julia Gorin

Some follow-ups on the story (http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1524) of Serb-slaughter for organs sold throughout Europe:


Diplomat gagged over Kosovo organ sale claim (http://www.russiatoday.ru/news/news/23193)

Switzerland has gagged one its Ambassadors from promoting a controversial new book about war crimes in the former Yugoslavia. Carla Del Ponte, who prosecuted crimes at The Hague, claims some current Kosovo leaders once sold vital organs from Serb prisoners.
…
The book, “The Hunt: Me and War Criminals”, was due to be launched in Milan. It details atrocities committed by Albanians against Kosovo Serbs in the late 1990s and says that some of those currently in power in Kosovo made money selling Serb organs.
Swiss authorities ban presentation of Del Ponte’s book “Hunt, Me and War Criminals” in Milan (http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=12558914&PageNum=0)

The Swiss Federal Department of Foreign Affairs Department has banned the presentation in Milan of Carla Del Ponte’ s book “[The] Hunt, Me and War Criminals”…Del Ponte’s book tells, in particular, about the obstructions she had to surmount “in her attempts to prosecute people guilty of the war crimes, committed during the armed conflicts on the Balkans in the nineties”.
…
“Carla Del Ponte’s book on her work as Chief Prosecutor of the Hague Tribunal, contains statements, which are impermissible for a representative of the government of Switzerland,” Spokesman for the Swiss Foreign Department Jean-Philippe Jeannerat stated.
He did not indicate the exact passages in Del Ponte’s book that had displeased Berne officials. Some local commentators believe they are those that contain “certain nuances” of her assessment of the situation on the Balkans in light of the fact that Switzerland had officially recognised the independence of Kosovo and Micheline Calmy-Ray (http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1534), the head of the Swiss Foreign Service, had taken part last week in the official opening (http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1528)of a Swiss embassy in Pristina.
Balkan Insight also had the story: Swiss Ban Del Ponte Book Promotion (http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/9225/), and the Italian news site AKI did (http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=1.0.2051413441) as well:

…[Del Ponte] claimed she was in no position to press charges or obtain sufficient evidence due to a lack of cooperation by the UN and Kosovo officials.
Swiss and Serbian commentators said Del Ponte’s disclosures were embarrassing to the Berne government, because Switzerland was among the first countries that recognised Kosovo independence in February and opened an embassy in Pristina last week.
The Kosovo Liberation Army’s veteran leader, Hashim Thaci, now Kosovo’s prime minister, in the mid-1990s spent (http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1528) time in Switzerland, a centre for radical Albanian emigre circles, where he mysteriously acquired funds for the KLA.
Serbian press reported the organ scheme worth about four million euros was masterminded by Thaci. Kosovo leaders have however refuted the accusations as “Serb political propaganda”. [Note: that is the auto-pilot response of the Serb-killers we’re friends with.]
…
[Del Ponte] has in particular accused UN officials and local authorities in Kosovo of being uncooperative in investigating alleged crimes against Serb civilians during the ethnic Albanian rebellion in 1998-1999, which ultimately led to independence.
Last week the Hague tribunal acquitted former Kosovo prime minister and KLA leader Ramush Haradinaj of war crimes, causing a storm of protest in Belgrade.
Russia wants details of del Ponte’s controversial book (http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080408/104105245.html)

MOSCOW, April 8 (RIA Novosti) - Russia’s Foreign Ministry has asked the Hague to provide details…”Batching freedom of speech concerning crimes against civilians, one may assume, is aimed at softening the reaction within international social and political circles to the facts revealing the criminal prehistory to the illegitimate sovereignty of Kosovo,” the ministry said.
On Monday, the ministry denounced a ruling by the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia last week which saw a former Kosovo prime minister acquitted for crimes committed during the conflict between Kosovo and Serbia in 1998-1999.
Ramush Haradinaj, 39, a former KLA guerilla leader, accused of organizing the rape, murder and intimidation of thousands of Serbs and Roma was found ‘not guilty’ on April 3.
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According to claims made in del Ponte’s book, Haradinaj was involved in the sale of organs, taken from prisoners executed in Kosovo.
She alleges that there was sufficient evidence for prosecution of Kosovo Albanians involved in war crimes, but it “was nipped in the bud” focusing on “the crimes committed by Serbia.”
More on America’s Friend and current Kosovo “prime miniser” Hashim Thaci’s Involvement (http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/02-04-2008/104752-Carla_del_Ponte-0):

These villainous crimes, [comparable] to the horrors of Third Reich, were [committed] by the leaders of Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) whose co-leader was the present-day prime minister of Kosovo Hashim Thaci. His profile, gathered by his opponents, contains the evidence of dozens of crimes made by him as a field commander against the Serbians in Kosovo.
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[M]any Serbian organizations tried to make ICTY investigate crimes…by Albanians in Kosovo, mailed detailed maps of the concentration camps in the north of Kosovo and in the north of Albania. However, no investigation was ever initiated…According to Belgrade’s newspaper “The Press”, the entire criminal business (http://english.pravda.ru/business/finance) was controlled personally by Hashim Thaci. He earned millions of dollars on human organs’ trade. This is what the former judge of the District court of Pristina [Danitsa] Marincovic tried to say during the proceedings against Slobodan Milosevic in the Hague. She also said that the United Nations Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK), headed at that time by France’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Bernar Kushner, prohibited from investigation of the cases of people disappearance and kidnapping…
The Belated Confession of Carla Del Ponte (http://news.panarmenian.net/details/eng/mail/?nid=870), from PanArmenian.Net:

…According to Del Ponte, the leaders of Kosovo Liberation Army, among who[m] was the present Prime Minister of the independent Kosovo Hashim [Thaci], committed atrocities….However, even after in 2003 when the public prosecutor himself visited the place where the crime had been committed, in the north of Albania, in the house where the extraction of organs was committed, she didn’t initiate any procedure, although according to her own confession, marks of blood and medical equipment were found.
However, none of the declarations became a criminal case. Del Ponte herself in one of her recent interviews to the Italian La Stampa confessed that the prosecution of the military criminals in the modern world is exceptionally of political character. If these crimes had been revealed before, no Kosovo independence could ever be mentioned. It is not by chance that the book by Del Ponte was published only now, when the independence has already been declared. This means that the Islamic militants are of greater importance for the USA and EU, than the Christian Serbs.
According to the Belgrade newspaper “Press”, Hashim [Thaci] himself was the head of the business. He earned millions on trade of organs, extraction of organs of people…Ponte and her former assistant Florence Artman assure that the UN administration…prevented the attempts of calling the Albanians to responsibility…It is hardly possible that Martti Ahtisaari or George Bush doesn’t know about the bloody past of [Thaci]. In the given case, like in many others, there is the policy of double standard…
And from Russia Today: Exposed: Kosovo Serbs were butchered for organs (http://www.russiatoday.ru/news/news/22913) (Video report here (http://www.russiatoday.ru/news/news/22913/video).)

The places [Del Ponte] mentions as hidden operation rooms are in exactly the same location as the camps Albanians used for training soldiers. “In these hospitals they decided amongst themsemselves what each commander of the KLA would have after victory. They decided who would make his money from drug dealing, who from weapons, and who from selling body parts. Hashim Thaci, the prime minister, was among them,” [Serbian military intel chief] General [Mamir] Stayanovich claims.
There are more than 2,000 names on the list of missing Serbs. Sima Spasich is the leader of an organisation trying to discover their fate. He showed the pictures of body parts he filmed in 2003.
“Right after the war, when we understood that too many people had disappeared, I went to the K-For commanders and asked them where were the people, and they just shrugged their shoulders. Only after they saw Serbian people demonstrating and were afraid of their anger, they took me to some place,” Spasich said.
“I cannot explain what I saw there. It was a small mountain of pieces of bodies and the first thing I saw was a baby who’d been taken from his mother’s stomach, lying there. It was impossible to look. It was a massive grave they’d dug before. Today I know in this massive grave were 26 Serb bodies - also there was my brother Milosh,” Spasich added.
Families who once had a small glimmer of hope of finding their loved ones are now planning to sue Del Ponte. They claim she withheld this information for years - and in that way helped the criminals with their crime.
More (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=03&dd=23&nav_id=48733) on the suing:

An association of the families of kidnapped Kosovo Serbs says it will file charges against Carla Del Ponte…The association’s president, Simo Spasic, says the families will sue the Swiss prosecutor for covering up the crimes committed against the Serbs kidnapped and killed by Kosovo’s Albanians since the end of the 1999 war.
“In 2004, Del Ponte told us in The Hague that she had information that all Serbs kidnapped in Kosovo were later murdered, but she kept silent about her knowledge that before they died, their organs were removed,” Simic told the daily Dan.
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“Del Ponte hid the truth and left this information about the grave crimes committed against the kidnapped Serbs out, in this way helping the crime, although she received the list of names of those kidnapped and those who kidnapped them in 2001. She never arrested anyone and she must answer for this,” Spasic said.
He believes it is impermissible to have a chief prosecutor do nothing, although she knew the names of the Serbs who were abducted in their land, in front of their homes and in their farms, to later have their organs removed and in the end be murdered.
“Del Ponte needs to explain why there were no convictions of the KLA leaders and why she never stopped it, the removal of organs from our loved ones, when she had information from many sources, Deutsche Welle, Sky News, BBC journalists, who said KLA was securing the transport of the kidnapped Kosovo Serbs to Albania,” Spasic continued.
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But her office decided to drop the case since the investigation in Albania was “impossible to conduct”…
Del Ponte received data on mass graves (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=03&dd=27&nav_id=48844)

The former head of the Coordinating Center for Kosovo…Nebojsa Covic said that seven years ago, Serbianauthorities presented the Hague Prosecution a list of locations of potential mass graves and secret prisons in Kosovo and northern Albania.
In an interview with Serbian Radio Television (RTS), Covic said that they had never received a reply from
former Hague Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte concerning the material the Serbian security services had prepared.
“The only answer was that KFOR did not want to cooperate, that some data had been lost when the first
contingent of KFOR troops had left Kosovo, and that UNMIK refused to cooperate, which I was also assured
of,” he said.
Covic said that Del Ponte had never raised that issue, and said that the fact that she had mentioned the case
in her book “Hunt - Me and War Criminals” represented an attempt at “biography laundering.”
The former coordinator believed that, by doing so, she was trying “to solve the problems linked to her guilty
conscience,” and that it was probably some kind of a marketing move to boost sales of her book…
Note that not a single source cited above is American, as per the unwritten official U.S. policy — of government, media, military and pundits: Ignore or bury any and all stories that come across as sympathetic to Serbs or challenging the entrenched official propaganda. Only the original AP report about the organ-trafficking made it past the censors, but FoxNews.com — one of a handful of sources to carry it — made sure to put a headline on it that would give the impression that the official villains, the Serbs, were the ones harvesting the organs: Serbian Prosecutor Investigating Reports of Organ Trafficking During War in Kosovo (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340369,00.html)
In closing, Serbianna.com’s Mickey Bozinovich makes a good point about organ harvesting in general, underscoring the contradiction between Muslim-made films and reality. For example, in the 2006 Turkish film “Valley of the Wolves” American soldiers randomly massacre guests at an Iraqi wedding, and a Jewish doctor played by desperate, non-Jewish-looking, D-List actor Gary Busey cuts out and sells organs from the poor Muslims:
Blaming Jews for Organ Smuggling (http://serbianna.com/blogs/bozinovich/?p=162)

In a roomful of US “dignitaries” such as “Madeleine Albright, Francis Fukuyama, Sandy Berger of the Hillary Clinton team [and] Susan Rice of the Barack Obama [team]” [in] Qatar…a Turk Cengiz Çandar declared that Muslims “welcome the birth of the new baby in Europe [Kosovo] and baby brother of Turkey in Europe!”
…[A]nother Turk, Mehmet Celebi, was kicked off the Clinton campaign because of his ties to a film depicting a Jewish doctor as an organ smuggler of butchered Iraqi Muslims by Americans… An amazing coincidence befitting of any pious Muslim Turk to blame Jews for a fictitious organ smuggling just in time when the Turkish offspring in Kosovo, the extremist Albanians, are marred in [an] organ smuggling ring….
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So let’s get this full loop straight: Clinton bombs Serbs in 1999 so that extremist Muslim Albanians can butcher Serbs for organs only to find another Muslim on [the] Clinton fundraising team financing a film that scapegoats Islamic organ trafficking on Jews.
[The] Clinton campaign says that it has no plans to return the money to Celebi.
So Muslims harvest Christian organs while making movies in which Jews harvest organs, so that Gary Busey can get a gig.
In reality, however, Israeli doctors insert healthy organs into Muslim children from Jewish children killed by Muslims (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1020923/asp/foreign/story_1225758.asp). And of course provide open-heart surgery to Iraqis and Palestinians (http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200802/INT20080201b.html).
In contrast, Iranian Students Urge Kidney Donations to Raise Funds for Bounty on Israeli Officials (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336669,00.html).

[KET]

WOW that was deep INAT. Your name does not help though. Nor do your conspiracy theories.

[BW2]

Islamo-mafiacracy? You're a joker! I would suggest you go to Kosovo and see for yourself. I would suggest otherwise...

[Afro-European]

Islamo-mafiacracy? You're a joker! I would suggest you go to Kosovo and see for yourself. Just make sure you stay away from public stonings and... oh yeah the narcotic bazzar.

My point stands until proven otherwise.

[Pleonasm]

Florence Hartmann today said in her column in Le Temps newspapers that Del Ponte's indications about organs trafficking are worth of despise because of lack of evidences.
Source (in croatian only): http://www.jutarnji.hr/clanak/art-2008,4,16,,116251.jlDidn't Florence Hartmann claimed in her book that the Russian government hid Karadzic somewhere in Belarus? Such a stupid bitch, I bet she would have already gone mad if the organ story involved Serbs as perpetrators.

[KoTeMoRe]

I would suggest otherwise...

The islamic part is always tossed in to blurr the lines between them thugs and play on the soft spot of Big Brother.

But the fact the KPA isn't a Jihadi bunch doesn't make them less "controversial". To me it is quite the contrary.

They need new faces and a new vision. That's bare daydreaming.

[INAT]

WOW that was deep INAT. Your name does not help though. Nor do your conspiracy theories.

Could you please remind me what my conspircy theories are?
What does my name have to do with anything?
And just so you know I did not myself write that I simply obtained it from a blog including various sources on the subject.:) But thanks I guess

[epictetus]

Could you please remind me what my conspircy theories are?
What does my name have to do with anything?
And just so you know I did not myself write that I simply obtained it from a blog including various sources on the subject.:) But thanks I guess

Your name means "grudge" in Turkishp-)

[BW2]

Your name means "grudge" in Turkish It means a lot more in Serbian...grudge just doesn't justify it I'm afraid.p-)

[Ichhabe]

Islamo-mafiacracy? You're a joker! I would suggest you go to Kosovo and see for yourself. Just make sure you stay away from public stonings and... oh yeah the narcotic bazzar.

Sorry to say, but I would not visit Kosovo today, even if it was the last place on earth with solid ground surrounded by an ocean of diarrhea. Going to a place filled with compulsive liers who just want to tell you that 20 of their relatives were killed ain't just my place.

[Laworkerbee]

Sorry to say, but I would not visit Kosovo today, even if it was the last place on earth with solid ground surrounded by an ocean of diarrhea. Going to a place filled with compulsive liers who just want to tell you that 20 of their relatives were killed ain't just my place.

I'm going to have to call you on that Buddy, I would put up with a lot to get away from an ocean of diarrhea.

You have a way with words rofl

[V.I.D.]

Update on the issue:

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Albania mass grave site photos surface

23 December 2008 | 09:30 -> 19:56 | Source: B92

BELGRADE -- The Serbian War Crimes Prosecution has come into possession of photographs of the locations believed to be mass graves in northern Albania.

B92 has seen the photographs, taken by UN investigators in 2004, with places marked as possible mass graves containing the remains of Serb and other non-Albanian victims, who were first kidnapped in Kosovo, and then taken to Albania where their vital organs were removed and sold in the black market.

The mass grave in question is some 1.5 kilometers away from the so-called yellow house near the town of Burrel where the criminal activity was taking place.

The photographs are a part of a report on the case compiled by UN investigators. However, despite numerous appeals, this organization is yet to officially send the document to the War Crimes Prosecution.

It was revealed today that the prosecution managed to obtain the missing pages of the report through unofficial channels.

The mass grave marked in one picture is located in a field close to a cement plant near Burrel. The UN document, first reported about by B92, states that surgical instruments and various medication, including muscle relaxants, were found in the yellow house.

But the report, in its available format, is missing the photographs that now confirm these claims.

The prosecution has learned that the yellow house served "to prepare patients for surgery", while the extraction of organs from the victims was conducted in a psychiatric hospital in Burrel, registered as Prison 320, where the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army, KLA, took the persons it kidnapped in Kosovo.

Suspicion that human organ trafficking was taking place here is additionally strengthened with information that 75 persons captured in Kosovo and 75 kidney patients were taken to the same place in Albania at the same time.

"The number of people kidnapped in Kosovo is equal to the number of patients brought there. It seems to us that those patients could have been organ recipients while the kidnapped could have been donors. When you have a donor whose life is unimportant to you, the surgery takes 20 minutes," prosecution spokesman Bruno Vekarić explained.

The prosecution also says that the best course of action would be to cooperate with their counterparts in Albania on this case, and in line with a cooperation agreement signed in 2005.

However, should the prosecution in Tirana stick to its position that it will not cooperate, it seems likely that CoE-appointed envoy **** Marty, expected in Serbia and Albania as soon as in January, will investigate the case.

In the meantime, the location marked as the mass grave is "monitored around the clock" to make sure there is no exhumation done there, reports say.

[KET]

Oh this topic again, beating a dead horse. I can't wait to see this great evidence that the Serbs have come across.

[eugenlitwin]

I was disgusted too Laworkerbee.

Here is more on Carla Del Ponte's work:


If this ex-thug, ex KLA drug traficker, whose authority as Kosovo's Prime Minister was recently recognized by most major countries, was also involved in this horrific splatter, then what can i say?

nothing´ll happen, you know Serbs are bad guys Albanians good onep-)

[AK-Lover]

nothing´ll happen, you know Serbs are bad guys Albanians good onep-)

Yes and unfortunately that's where it is probably going to end. Even with the over thousand Serbs forced from their land and humiliated but who's greatest pain is still not knowing where there fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers and so on are since 1998. I am sure for many of them death would have been an easier way than being some sociopathic mobsters ***-slave in some Western European ghetto.

[G-AWZT]

I think quite a few people have woken up to the fact that the KLA and organized Albanian mafioso rule 2/3 of Kosovo and that it's a pit stop for drugs and prostitutes going to Europe from the Middle East or vice versa.
The whole '99 war was a sham that the liberals thrust upon the Serbs. The NATO bombing was punishment which is interesting considering the last time Belgrade was bombed, it was by the Luftwaffe in "Operation Punishment", April '41. NATO's first war was a travesty and a pity, quite sad really.
The Albanians got away with murder pure and simple.

[GIJOEJK]

Your name means "grudge" in Turkishp-)

In Serbian it means "in spite of".

[Stefan850]

Oh this topic again, beating a dead horse.


One very dear to me old men is "missing" from Kosovo and so are who knows how many more Serbs. I dont know what happened to them but every investigation that will lead to the punishing of the Albanians who had something to do with them missing is a good thing.

We are at the moment neighbours, and to us Serbs this and some other things will never be a "dead horse", never.

The only good thing you Albanians could do for yourselfs is to help with investigation like this, find the people responsible and hand them over to the war crime tribunal for a swift and firm punishment.

You would get a lot of simpathy in Serbia because of that.

You wouldn't get it from me personally but from other people you would, Albanian run Kosovo would get a lot of sympathy and your independence would be a lot stronger with a part of Serbia feeling that way.

And what do you do? Deny and actually laugh at the investigation, tease us to come up with some evidence.

Because of that teasing, I would say something but I dont want to get banned.

Lets just end it with what I said, for the Serbs, things like that will never be a dead horse.

[Stefan850]

Jose-Pablo Baraybar, the former chief of the UNMIK Office on Missing Persons and Forensics who headed the 2004 team, said his was only an initial probe and the case warranted further investigation.

“Based on what we found alone, [it] was kind of inconclusive. It was a preliminary investigation. With that information alone, no case could be built,” he said in a telephone interview from Peru.

Pressed to give his own opinion as a forensic pathologist on the likelihood of organ trafficking having taken place, Baraybar said: “I would say that I think it is probable. At the very least possible.”

In addition, the allegation that Serbs, Roma (Gypsies) or other non-Albanians were taken into Albania was “neglected for a long time, but it is totally true,” he said.

This, Baraybar said, was based on information from “eight different sources” on the kidnapping and transportation of the victims to the house, adding: “Obviously, we did not go there by chance.”

New York-based Human Rights Watch, which said it had seen the information from Del Ponte’s sources and considered it credible, has called for a proper investigation into the missing.http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2008/12/23/2003431823


Bold part makes me very angry, Serbian victims are neglected because we are not US allies and the guilty ones are, yes?

Western sleaziness in all it's glory.