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Okay this is not really a war related question....but i know with the wars going on that gas prices have increased world wide...or at least i assume so...i dont wanna be ignorant..so the people over seas or around the u.s... whats ur avg gas price... and do any of u think it will ever come down to where it was in ur country ...or do you think it will always remain near the same give or take 10-15 cents...(or whatever ur currency your country uses)?
Here in California are gas prices are between 2.30 to 2.60/ gallon... before the war it was arond 1.30-1.50 ...i dont think it will ever dip below 2 dollars again tho :(
Mr Gently Benevolent
05-28-2004, 04:23 PM
I read an article in the FT and gave the opinion that there has been little if any new investment in US oil refineries in the last ten years which means if more oil supplies come online then production volumes of petrol/gas will not increase sufficiently to ease prices at the pump. Just sayin. :|
kinghk
05-28-2004, 04:27 PM
Okay this is not really a war related question....but i know with the wars going on that gas prices have increased world wide...or at least i assume so...i dont wanna be ignorant..so the people over seas or around the u.s... whats ur avg gas price... and do any of u think it will ever come down to where it was in ur country ...or do you think it will always remain near the same give or take 10-15 cents...(or whatever ur currency your country uses)?
Here in California are gas prices are between 2.30 to 2.60/ gallon... before the war it was arond 1.30-1.50 ...i dont think it will ever dip below 2 dollars again tho :(
Where I live, gas cost about 1,5 USD. For 1 liter. I don't have a car, so frankly I don't care, and high oil prices is indeed positivt for the countrys economy, so overall high oil prices is positive.
Howitz
05-28-2004, 04:43 PM
It's about an average of 2.10-2.14 recently in detroit
scm77
05-28-2004, 06:21 PM
Here it's around $0.80 Canadian for a Canadian litre of gas. (A Canadian litre is different then an American litre (i think) and I'm not sure how many in a gallon. Confusing I know. ;)
All I can say is thank god Bush went to war for oil because it's really helped me save money on gas. :roll:
memphiz
05-28-2004, 06:27 PM
Here it's around $0.80 Canadian for a Canadian litre of gas. (A Canadian litre is different then an American litre (i think) and I'm not sure how many in a gallon. Confusing I know. ;)
All I can say is thank god Bush went to war for oil because it's really helped me save money on gas. :roll:
Litres is the same ;)
4 litres = 1 gallon
its $.89 for gas here in oil country Alberta ($3.56/gallon)
I heard in Britain for a gallon of gas it is $10.88 CND per gallon
budanski
05-28-2004, 08:38 PM
I read an article in the FT and gave the opinion that there has been little if any new investment in US oil refineries in the last ten years which means if more oil supplies come online then production volumes of petrol/gas will not increase sufficiently to ease prices at the pump. Just sayin. :|
Enviromental policies have made it difficult/expensive for new refineries to be run and built. Refiners now supply 18 different formulations of gasolines due to these policies and last being built in the late 70's. Even if more oil is imported to the U.S., the prices of gas all depends on how quickly these already over-burdened refineries can convert them out. supply and demand.
Bush has offered a workable fuel policy, but the dem have tied his hands behind his back. Since the spotted owl doesnt reside in Alaska, the enviro-wackos uses a general wildlife endangerment if drilled in ANWR, we can't drill anywhere on the Pacific coast, we no longer are allowed to drill in the Gulf of Mexico, we cannot drill along the Atlantic coast. Enviromental extremists in cahoots with the Democrats have made the U.S. almost 100% dependent on people who despise us.
Given all that, they turn it around and blame Bush (http://www.wluctv6.com/Global/story.asp?S=1880961) for the increase.
scm77
05-28-2004, 08:53 PM
Here it's around $0.80 Canadian for a Canadian litre of gas. (A Canadian litre is different then an American litre (i think) and I'm not sure how many in a gallon. Confusing I know. ;)
All I can say is thank god Bush went to war for oil because it's really helped me save money on gas. :roll:
Litres is the same ;)
Are you sure. Check this out.
http://www.thetipsbank.com/convert.htm#CAPACITY
They have both "litres" and "liters" which makes me think there are two seperate measurements.
radon
05-28-2004, 09:09 PM
Enviromental policies have made it difficult/expensive for new refineries to be run and built. Refiners now supply 18 different formulations of gasolines due to these policies and last being built in the late 70's. Even if more oil is imported to the U.S., the prices of gas all depends on how quickly these already over-burdened refineries can convert them out. supply and demand.
But nobody wants to wear a gas mask because of dirty gasoline. Lead , sulphur and what else .If the gasoline was the same like before many people would get sick there , because there are more cars. Those regulations are propably there for a reason , not useless bureaucracy.
usa320
05-28-2004, 10:06 PM
I think gas-hogging SUV's, stricter environmental laws and OPEC pissing and moaning have a far greater affect on gas prices than the war does.
catdat
05-29-2004, 12:00 AM
radon wrote:
But nobody wants to wear a gas mask because of dirty gasoline
You're "putting me on" right? Ha Ha good one. Unless of course you live in L.A. -then I'm sorry for being insensitive. Just in case you don't live in L.A. -do you think a Gas mask works best against high test or regular?
786mine
05-29-2004, 04:17 AM
I read an article in the FT and gave the opinion that there has been little if any new investment in US oil refineries in the last ten years which means if more oil supplies come online then production volumes of petrol/gas will not increase sufficiently to ease prices at the pump. Just sayin. :|
you said well. the rest are all speculations. the us leadership is to be blamed for this price hike. not neccessarly Bush, the government has not built a new refinery in over two decades. plus EPA put out toughter standards. OPEC is not to be blamed for this AT ALL! the problem is not the crude oil supply its the freaking gasoline supply. and since there is a bottleneck with the refineries, the U.S. leadership it to be blamed for this.
All I can say is thank god Bush went to war for oil because it's really helped me save money on gas. :roll:
No, the war has nothing to do with geopolitics, absolutely nothing.
csqnsas
05-29-2004, 04:44 AM
Ok. lets say Bush went to war "Iraq" to oust the nasy man. He may have used the threats that the nasy man had WMD and mr Nasty was going to give them to the terrorists.
As a side issue it now seems that the US has a controlling option of one of the last known reserves left in the world.
Bush is a oil-man, made money in oil and got to be who he is due to oil.
The US uses more energy per head than any other. Hence needs a supply of oil. Retaining its own reserves so that in 2050, when the oil starts to runout , the US still has a oil industry to feed the demand . The rest of the world will have to tough it out. i would say that in itself will start a new conflict .
If Bush was trully a statesman, he would cancell the propossed " flight to Mars" and set aside "whatever it takes" to develop oil independant energy sources.
Fuel cells , solar, wind, hydro, current flow .
Wake up and smell the coffee. There is a finite amount of oil, we are using it at a greater rate every year.
your fuel prices will just keep on going up and up.
Bush and his oil friends are wealthy enough to ignore that fact. You and your kids won't be.
n.ignomo
05-29-2004, 06:46 AM
France : 1/4 of a gallon costs 1.10€ (no diesel for me) or 1.15€. You're still lucky !
kinghk
05-29-2004, 06:55 AM
Here it's around $0.80 Canadian for a Canadian litre of gas. (A Canadian litre is different then an American litre (i think) and I'm not sure how many in a gallon. Confusing I know. ;)
All I can say is thank god Bush went to war for oil because it's really helped me save money on gas. :roll:
Litres is the same ;)
4 litres = 1 gallon
its $.89 for gas here in oil country Alberta ($3.56/gallon)
I heard in Britain for a gallon of gas it is $10.88 CND per gallon
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=1+gallon+in+liter&btnG=Google+Search
1 gallon is 3.7854118 liter
When are you yanks going to start using the metric system like the rest of the civilized world?
Nondescript
05-29-2004, 01:31 PM
Here it's around $0.80 Canadian for a Canadian litre of gas. (A Canadian litre is different then an American litre (i think) and I'm not sure how many in a gallon. Confusing I know. ;)
All I can say is thank god Bush went to war for oil because it's really helped me save money on gas. :roll:
Litres is the same ;)
4 litres = 1 gallon
its $.89 for gas here in oil country Alberta ($3.56/gallon)
I heard in Britain for a gallon of gas it is $10.88 CND per gallon
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=1+gallon+in+liter&btnG=Google+Search
1 gallon is 3.7854118 liter
When are you yanks going to start using the metric system like the rest of the civilized world?
correction
1 US gallon is 3.78whatever liter
and then you have the British system, where 1 gallon is 4.55 liter
I think the gas-prices here in Sweden is somewhere around 10,60kr/l, that's like 5,40$ per gallon (In US of course). What can I say it sucks.
Trident-za
05-29-2004, 01:42 PM
Here in South Africa, fuel is roughly R4.30 per litre (with a massive price hike due next week :(), which works out to be about $3.30 per gallon (depending on exchange rate). It's a bugger for a "developing country" to deal with.... cost of living is soaring because a huge percentage of our goods are transported by road, instead of rail. To put it into perspective... the "average" salary in SA is enough to buy just under 90 gallons of fuel a month - which would be fine if you didn't have to pay for anything else.
I don't know who is to blame, but I hope it goes away soon :(
memphiz
05-29-2004, 01:57 PM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=1+gallon+in+liter&btnG=Google+Search
1 gallon is 3.7854118 liter
When are you yanks going to start using the metric system like the rest of the civilized world?
Im Canadian ;)
Here it's around $0.80 Canadian for a Canadian litre of gas. (A Canadian litre is different then an American litre (i think) and I'm not sure how many in a gallon. Confusing I know. ;)
All I can say is thank god Bush went to war for oil because it's really helped me save money on gas. :roll:
Litres is the same ;)
Are you sure. Check this out.
http://www.thetipsbank.com/convert.htm#CAPACITY
They have both "litres" and "liters" which makes me think there are two seperate measurements.
A "litre" is the same as "liters", its like 'Color'='Colour' its just spelt different.
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