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b4bhc
04-19-2008, 03:40 AM
Hello all,

I hope that this is the right place to post this. If not, I will delete it immediatly.
I have been looking for some sort of list about which foreign countries military uses US made uniforms (woodland, desert, BDU, etc.)
Would anybody out here happen to know which countries use American uniforms or where I might be able to find a list?
Thank you.

el borracho
04-19-2008, 11:09 AM
Are you looking for US made/issued uniforms, or just similar patterns. I ask because many countries produce their own versions of patterns developed by the US. Woodland MARPAT, for example, is used by several nations but the uniforms themselves are not identical to what the US Marines wear.

shocker_HKG
04-19-2008, 01:11 PM
Hello all,
Would anybody out here happen to know which countries use American uniforms or where I might be able to find a list?
Thank you.

Try Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_camouflage_patterns p-)

Power_serj
04-19-2008, 01:17 PM
That's annoying when other countries use our cammies. It is a symbol of our military, so no other country should be using our combat uniforms. An exception is, obviously, if we are not actively using the camo anymore, such as BDU, DCU etc.

b4bhc
04-19-2008, 03:47 PM
Are you looking for US made/issued uniforms, or just similar patterns. I ask because many countries produce their own versions of patterns developed by the US. Woodland MARPAT, for example, is used by several nations but the uniforms themselves are not identical to what the US Marines wear.


Hello,

Actually, what I am looking for is actual US made uniforms (with English on the tag) that is used by foreign militaries.
I know and have seen all over the world countries that use the same pattern as US forces but which ones are actually made in the US and then shipped overseas?
Thank you all.

AROUETLJ
04-19-2008, 05:01 PM
That's annoying when other countries use our cammies. It is a symbol of our military, so no other country should be using our combat uniforms. An exception is, obviously, if we are not actively using the camo anymore, such as BDU, DCU etc.

What about allies, NATO or otherwise?

calvinb1nav
04-19-2008, 08:15 PM
Many of our allies that fly US-made aircraft also buy their flight suits, flight jackets, flight gloves, etc. directly from the US. For example, South Korean pilots wear US made flight jackets and gloves.

Ichhabe
04-19-2008, 08:55 PM
That's annoying when other countries use our cammies. It is a symbol of our military, so no other country should be using our combat uniforms. An exception is, obviously, if we are not actively using the camo anymore, such as BDU, DCU etc.

What if the US. Army give you that uniform to use? Should we have said no so you would'nt be upset?

Power_serj
04-19-2008, 11:12 PM
Well, I'm not calling anyone names. I'm just saying that it takes away from the American military identity when other countries use American camo. There is one US Army, One US Marine Corp etc.... To keep our identity, other countries should not use our camo, and we should not give it to other countries, [it's just my opinion].

Is there are a New World Order, where there's one joint country with Europe, Canada, United States that's going to happen through NATO?!?!










(Just kidding with the last part, I'm not a conspiracy theorist) :hug:

Crewdog
04-20-2008, 01:52 AM
Well, I'm not calling anyone names. I'm just saying that it takes away from the American military identity when other countries use American camo. There is one US Army, One US Marine Corp etc.... To keep our identity, other countries should not use our camo, and we should not give it to other countries, [it's just my opinion].

Is there are a New World Order, where there's one joint country with Europe, Canada, United States that's going to happen through NATO?!?!










(Just kidding with the last part, I'm not a conspiracy theorist) :hug:


A lot of smaller nations may not have the funding to develope their uniforms for its militaries use. Nations may very well use our(US) uniforms because of the simple fact that they work, not to mention they most likely recieved them as part of a military aid package. A lot of Latin American nations use/used our woodland BDU's same pattern same cut of fabric. Heck, Propper has a facility in Puerto Rico and I do believe that TruSpec has one in Honduras.

African nations seem to use our uniforms as well as those of the UK.

As far as certain patters representing our nationalistic pride. I think I can speak for quite a few in the uniformed service when I say we realy dont give a good God damn if they wear our uniforms.

Muddyboots
04-22-2008, 08:06 PM
Camouflage shouldn't be about unit identity, that's the "catching fishermen" argument. Camo should about effectiveness in use. Bar-coded digital freely available to less reliable allies is actually a plus. It looks pretty close to "X-pat" but functions differently and in OUR favor. Crewdog speaks truth.

Muddyboots

ICUS
04-23-2008, 01:45 AM
Hello,

Actually, what I am looking for is actual US made uniforms (with English on the tag) that is used by foreign militaries.
I know and have seen all over the world countries that use the same pattern as US forces but which ones are actually made in the US and then shipped overseas?
Thank you all.

To answer this question properly would require consolidating a lot of research into a lengthy reply. I am not aware of any such list in existence, but have certainly done plenty of research on the subject myself, so can provide you with the short answer.

Prior to Asian manufacturing firms in China and South Korea firmly establishing their control of the international military uniform market, United States military uniform contractors did export to a number of countries in Central America, South America and parts of the Middle East. Most of these countries now either have their own small military uniform industries, or they import uniforms much more cheaply from Asia. Additionally, some countries imported or were given surplus military uniforms by the United States in more recent years. African nations have been the most prominent recipients of this kind of aid, and a cursory search of military exercises among nations on this continent will reveal widespread use of surplus US camouflage uniforms, including the M81 woodland, 6-color "chocolate chip" desert, and the tricolor desert pattern. These same patterns, however, have also seen widespread copying and production by local industries as well as by the aforementioned large Asian manufacturing firms. Without having concrete information on the sources of these uniforms, identifying precisely which countries have used which uniforms is largely a matter of being able to differentiate a US-made uniform from a copy based on photographic evidence or in-person physical examination.

Off the top of my head, I know Honduras, El Salvador and Colombia have at one time or another worn surplus US military uniforms; Honduras was also supplied with unique uniforms made from US-produced camouflage cloth during the early 1980s. The Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Haiti, Argentina, and perhaps other Latin American nations also seem to have utilized readily available US produced uniforms at one point. In Africa, surplus US uniforms have been supplied to Ghana, Niger, Senegal, Sudan, and Uganda, among others.

Cheers,

pretorian669
04-24-2008, 05:35 AM
In Israel limited use of US woodland, 3 color desert and 6 color desert bdu's.
I have pictures if you need...uniforms are original US...
In the last offensive in Gaza I have even seen some ACU pattern items but not full uniforms.

b4bhc
04-25-2008, 04:38 AM
Hello,

Thank you all for your replys. Especially you, ICUS. Thanks.
I do know that the El Salvadorian uniform that I traded for in Iraq has an English tag on the inside. That's what got me thinking about this whole topic.
Would you happen to know though, (not asking for a full list of course) if Chile, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Latvia or Turkey would be apart of this list?
Any help or point in the right direction would be great.
Thank you.

ICUS
04-26-2008, 08:24 PM
Hello,

Thank you all for your replys. Especially you, ICUS. Thanks.
I do know that the El Salvadorian uniform that I traded for in Iraq has an English tag on the inside. That's what got me thinking about this whole topic.
Would you happen to know though, (not asking for a full list of course) if Chile, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Latvia or Turkey would be apart of this list?
Any help or point in the right direction would be great.
Thank you.

My pleasure to be of some help.

I would be very interested to see a photograph of the Salvadoran uniform you received in Iraq. There has been some hint that the Salvadorans have used more than one type of uniform over there, so just curious if yours is the same as the one I have.

As far as I know, Chile has had its own localized industry for producing military uniforms for years. I have seen dozens of Chilean uniforms over the years, and they were all produced locally and not simply US imports. I am fairly certain the same situation has existed for Turkey, as the uniforms are probably more cheaply produced there than imported from the US. Most Turkish camouflage is either a unique pattern or a pattern variant, anyway, rather than an exact copies of a US-pattern.

Latvian uniforms are locally produced, although their m81 woodland uniforms may be made from imported US NYCO cloth. The old Latvian tricolor desert uniform is actually a completely different pattern, although some have simply assumed it is a copy of US tricolor desert.

I cannot say for sure about Georgia. The Dominican Republic, however, is likely to use surplus US uniforms or cloth. Strangely enough, some commercial BDUs sold here in the US are made in the Dominican Republic (others in Honduras) for US-owned companies.

Cheers,

ICUS