And Yes, Iran Has Unsettling al Qaida Connections

[emiljoe]

And Yes, Iran Has Unsettling al Qaida Connections :fork:

http://www.globalpolitician.com/24592-iran

....The 9/11 Commission report, for example, concludes amongst other things that

a) in late ’91 or early ’92, Iran agreed to train al Qaida operatives during meetings in Sudan, and not long afterwards al Qaida members traveled to Iran to receive training in explosives;

b) that al Qaida operatives traveled to Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley to receive training from Iranian Revolutionary Guards;

c) that Iran facilitated the transit of Sunni jihadists to al Qaida training camps in Afghanistan via Iranian territory, opting not to stamp the jihadists’ passports when they passed through Iran, making it impossible for countries to know when someone had attended a training camp in Afghanistan (needless to say, it would have been polite of the Iranians had they stamped the passports of the eight or nine 9/11 hijackers that transited through their country prior to the attack — that could have helped);

d) and that al Qaida and Iranian government officials maintained contact after bin Laden’s move back to Afghanistan....

[Masai]

Wow!!

thats shocking news !!!

[Lau]

It's settled then.. Let's nuke nuke Iran, turn the place into a parking lot!!! America **** YEA!!! :cantbeli:

[Calanen]

The 9/11 report came out when..2004?

[Anti_tanky]

The 9/11 report came out when..2004?

Indeed, I also remember it made mention of FIM-92 Equipped Leprechauns operating deep in the rocky mountains, in addition to the recent sightings of unicorns there.

That definitely makes it legit imo.

[Masai]

The 9/11 report came out when..2004?

maybe hes a really slow reader ...

[Calanen]

maybe hes a really slow reader ...

Heh..well it was quite a thick document. You could read the executive summary however, which was much more slender.

[wilhelm]

Heh ... didn't the 9/11 report/commission also state it was un-important where Al Quada got their funding from for 9/11?

Or did I see that on Zeitgeist?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

And Yes, Iran Has Unsettling al Qaida Connections :fork:

http://www.globalpolitician.com/24592-iran


Oh great how often is this neocon BS going to be recycled...

Next week it will be Saddam's WMDs again :roll:

I guess if they keep repeating their mantras they think it will come true in neocon lala land.

[Holycrusader]

And Yes, Iran Has Unsettling al Qaida Connections :fork:

http://www.globalpolitician.com/24592-iran

....The 9/11 Commission report, for example, concludes amongst other things that

a) in late ’91 or early ’92, Iran agreed to train al Qaida operatives during meetings in Sudan, and not long afterwards al Qaida members traveled to Iran to receive training in explosives;

b) that al Qaida operatives traveled to Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley to receive training from Iranian Revolutionary Guards;

c) that Iran facilitated the transit of Sunni jihadists to al Qaida training camps in Afghanistan via Iranian territory, opting not to stamp the jihadists’ passports when they passed through Iran, making it impossible for countries to know when someone had attended a training camp in Afghanistan (needless to say, it would have been polite of the Iranians had they stamped the passports of the eight or nine 9/11 hijackers that transited through their country prior to the attack — that could have helped);

d) and that al Qaida and Iranian government officials maintained contact after bin Laden’s move back to Afghanistan....

One of al Qaida operatives going thru RPG 29 somewhere in Bekaa Valley

http://www.ttgnet.com/images/armed-squirrel.jpg

[phoebus]

One of al Qaida operatives going thru RPG 29 somewhere in Bekaa Valley

http://www.ttgnet.com/images/armed-squirrel.jpg

No multikams camo? I'm surprised :cantbeli:

[Calanen]

The US did send disguised squirrels on skis into the mountains of iran, so a gopher with a bazooka is not so far fetched.

[BugHunt]

10 pounds of homemade fertilser IED now counts as WMD gentlemen.....

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=132977

"A brave new world".....

[LRPV]

They weren't squirrels....just had the fur coats...and I can tell you they were damn tight....p-)

[Alexandr]

Yaaw,Bin Laden and Hattab was Iranians,and 9\11 planes hitch-hihkers was Iranians?
Why all that yelllin about Iran and Syria looks like a conjuration :
"Dont Look At Saudi Arabia.
Theres Nothing There.
Dont Look At Saudi Arabia.
Theres Nothing There."
-and repeated many-many times.
Most un-democratic tyrany in the world,worst harsh Shariat law with public hooking of kids,most dangerous ideology spreader,best training centre for sunni extremist all over the world does not exist?Is that some kind of magic of what?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Yaaw,Bin Laden and Hattab was Iranians,and 9\11 planes hitch-hihkers was Iranians?
Why all that yelllin about Iran and Syria looks like a conjuration :
"Dont Look At Saudi Arabia.
Theres Nothing There.
Dont Look At Saudi Arabia.
Theres Nothing There."
-and repeated many-many times.
Most un-democratic tyrany in the world,worst harsh Shariat law with public hooking of kids,most dangerous ideology spreader,best training centre for sunni extremist all over the world does not exist?Is that some kind of magic of what?

How dare you criticise the country that bailed out the Bush family business!
Are you a communist?

[Alexandr]

How dare you criticise the country that bailed out the Bush family business!
Are you a communist?

In Soviet Russia i would be commie fo sure.Now im just imperial chauvinist p-)

[LtVacan]

Oh great how often is this neocon BS going to be recycled...

Next week it will be Saddam's WMDs again :roll:

I guess if they keep repeating their mantras they think it will come true in neocon lala land.


Sorry, not BS.

And there were no "Neocons" on the 9/11 commision.

[Mordoror]

Look a good way to warm up the ambient against Iran
somebody needs a war ??

[MPNFL]

hmm...interesting.

but, i just find it odd that an a "neo-sunni" group (if you will) like Al-Qaeda would work with shiite backed groups and a nation like Iran.

[Sanat-e-naft]

Even if that was the case, we are talking early 90's. Heck, we (the US)had just stopped arming them in late 89 early 90. And back then who knew what AQ was, they were all just mujahadeen. Im not excusing, just saying that when you look at something from 20 years ago, politics and policy change.

[helomech]

One of al Qaida operatives going thru RPG 29 somewhere in Bekaa Valley

http://www.ttgnet.com/images/armed-squirrel.jpg

Awwwww,look at da cute wittle squirrel!

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Sorry, not BS.




Yeah of course the Wahabi Sunni fanatics are really good mates with the heretical Shiite fanatics of Iran. What medication have you been taking?

[Alexandr]

Yeah of course the Wahabi Sunni fanatics are really good mates with the heretical Shiite fanatics of Iran. What medication have you been taking?

Probably same meds as McCain use.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v6GBdyws5YU
But theres only one Lieberman in the world,who can gently whisper "hey you talkin retarded nonsense sh*t" and he belongs to McCain.

[Mr.Flint]

Yeah of course the Wahabi Sunni fanatics are really good mates with the heretical Shiite fanatics of Iran. What medication have you been taking?
That didnt stop the Salafi Hamas from allying to heretical Shiites... Why would it stop Wahabis? They are after all the same sh1t.

[Alexandr]

That didnt stop the Salafi Hamas from allying to heretical Shiites... Why would it stop Wahabis? They are after all the same sh1t.

What exactly allying?Can you provide facts please?We got about 20 millions of Sunii muslims in Russia (non-immigrants,muslims with over-500 years history as part of Russian Emprie).And during conflict with Chechen separtists almost from all of them comes small numbers of illegal militants to separatist army.But from Azerbaijan,Shia muslim country,former part of Soviet Union,that share 200-км border with Chechnya comes only 1 documented warrior to separatist troops.And he was catholic christian....

[Ulytau]

Shiite Fanatics and Vahabi fanatics are good mates?
Hmm who were bombin then Shiitee sides in Iraq and same for Sunni sides too?

But i think you guys remember some comments about who supported so called ''GREEN GENERATION'' aganist Soviets before..

Also last issues about retired generals and their actions..

If they are really honest first they need to speak about some people in the Saudi Dynasty and Oil Lords in this geography..

When there is Taleban Government in Afghanistan only a country was acceptin and sendin serious support to them i think we all know about the answer right?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

That didnt stop the Salafi Hamas from allying to heretical Shiites... Why would it stop Wahabis? They are after all the same sh1t.


When?
123456

The Taliban/AQ and the Iranians were virtually at war with each other. Who do you think was supporting the Northern Alliance in A'stan before they became fashionable with the Americans post 911?

[Bia]

Oh great how often is this neocon BS going to be recycled...

Next week it will be Saddam's WMDs again :roll:

I guess if they keep repeating their mantras they think it will come true in neocon lala land.

Exactly....

[randomguy]

Alexandr please stop saying lies about Americas great ally in the Middle East: Saudi Arabia

-NO Saudi Arabia does not provide funds to spread a extremist interpretation of Islam like Wahabism to Muslim populations in Mid East and Europe

-Bosnian Wahabists did not have plans and equipment, and preparation to bomb an American embassy in Serbia. And they were not arrested and are not on trial facing terrorism charges.

- Saudi Arabia does not oppress women, or gays.

- Saudi Arabia does not abuse human rights, they dont execute people for theft or assault. They dont give lashings to female rape victims.

-Saudi Arabia does however, have a ****load of oil. And after all according to United States foreign policy, No country with vast oil reserves can be accused of abusing human rights or supporting terrorism in any way.

[avedis]

Syria is sunni
Iran is shi-ite (gap is there because it keeps getting censored)
they seem to be quite friendly

[Snoshi]

Syria is sunni
Iran is shi-ite (gap is there because it keeps getting censored)
they seem to be quite friendly

Syria is Sunni, but the Baath Party is pretty secular.

[Ulytau]

Syria is sunni
Iran is shi-ite (gap is there because it keeps getting censored)
they seem to be quite friendly

We can say Syrian sect Synthesis with Hanefism and Malikism..Most of them Safii :)

Also if we speakin about this issue Hugo Chaves is communist but have great relitionship with Iran then..

About Snoshi he is right also Beşar Esad pretty different then his father i think..

Father of Baath Party ideology a Syrian Christian Misel Eflak..

It was something like Arabian Nationalism and European Socialism..

Also wanted to say one thing about Iran i hope one day Muhammed Hatemi can be president of Iran..Mosty women and youngs are supportin him..

[avedis]

My point basically was they can put their disagreements aside until they accomplish their common goal. Besides after the invasion of Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda kind of broke off in different groups. Some of these groups such as Al Qaeda in Iraq were being criticized by Bin Ladin for some of their operations.
(for the record I am not saying attack Iran or that I am buying the article, just trying to spice up the discussion)

[Mr.Flint]

When?
123456

The Taliban/AQ and the Iranians were virtually at war with each other. Who do you think was supporting the Northern Alliance in A'stan before they became fashionable with the Americans post 911?
When Hamas allied to Iran?
Where youve been for the last decade?
Iran supports Hamas from the 90ies... and Islamic Jihad as well...
Money, logistics, training, etc... Didnt both Mashal and Hanieyh visited their buddy Ahmanidejad recently?

[Alexandr]

.edit - will post later

[gaijinsamurai]

Syria is sunni
Iran is shi-ite (gap is there because it keeps getting censored)
they seem to be quite friendly

Syria is predominantly Sunni, but the Assad family are Alawites, which are considered to be a splinter group associated with the Shiites.

Read about the massacre of Sunni militants in the Syrian city of Hama, and you'll see there is no love between the Syrian Baathists and the Sunni fundamentalists.

[avedis]

Syria is predominantly Sunni, but the Assad family are Alawites, which are considered to be a splinter group associated with the Shiites.

Read about the massacre of Sunni militants in the Syrian city of Hama, and you'll see there is no love between the Syrian Baathists and the Sunni fundamentalists.
Will do thanks.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

When Hamas allied to Iran?
Where youve been for the last decade?
Iran supports Hamas from the 90ies... and Islamic Jihad as well...
Money, logistics, training, etc... Didnt both Mashal and Hanieyh visited their buddy Ahmanidejad recently?


Read the thread title - its about AQ not Hamas. They are not the same thing.

[blackshadow69]

Syria is predominantly Sunni, but the Assad family are Alawites, which are considered to be a splinter group associated with the Shiites.

Read about the massacre of Sunni militants in the Syrian city of Hama, and you'll see there is no love between the Syrian Baathists and the Sunni fundamentalists.
Exactly!That was massacre but that was a right thing!Brothers of Islam had there base in Hama and becoz of there attacks on Syrian community during the 80's period Assad sent an army to clear it there.

[Mr.Flint]

Read the thread title - its about AQ not Hamas. They are not the same thing.
Are you missing the point on purpose?

The point of Hamas being the same Sunni fanatical sh1t as AQ?
(remember it was Hamas who demanded the return of Andalus)
Being fanatical Sunni Salafists (=Wahabbists) didnt stop them from allying to Iran's shiites.
Why would it prevent AQ then?
I advise you to read on Lebanons civil war, to learn how quickly two enemies can become best friends against someone they both hate.


Exactly!That was massacre but that was a right thing!Brothers of Islam had there base in Hama and becoz of there attacks on Syrian community during the 80's period Assad sent an army to clear it there.
Lol after your other comments, this one is a real pearl... what happened to your statement that killing civvies is bad?:)

[Holycrusader]

Exactly!That was massacre but that was a right thing!Brothers of Islam had there base in Hama and becoz of there attacks on Syrian community during the 80's period Assad sent an army to clear it there.

I can say that killing 20 000 people is not a right thing to do...

Btw I was in Hama some yrs ago (lovely and beautifoul place)

[blackshadow69]

Lol after your other comments, this one is a real pearl... what happened to your statement that killing civvies is bad?:)
There r a diffirents between what we were talking about and those gys...Im against Hamas against qaida against all this wahhabi sh1t.

[blackshadow69]

I can say that killing 20 000 people is not a right thing to do...

Btw I was in Hama some yrs ago (lovely and beautifoul place)
Yes ofcorse a lot of people died there and thats why Assad's brother Rafaat living outcide Syria he is the one who made all this massacre.

[Snoshi]

There r a diffirents between what we were talking about and those gys...Im against Hamas against qaida against all this wahhabi sh1t.

So all the 20k people were Islamists? :roll:

[blackshadow69]

So all the 20k people were Islamists? :roll:
And the guy who did that now hiding in France....

[Snoshi]

And the guy who did that now hiding in France....

It was on Assad's order it was carried out.. Hes brother was tasked with the mission, but the orders came from the top

[blackshadow69]

It was on Assad's order it was carried out.. Hes brother was tasked with the mission, but the orders came from the top
Assads order was to take them those brothers of islam but Rafaat had his calculations his own opinion and thats why he left Syria.

[Mr.Flint]

There r a diffirents between what we were talking about and those gys...Im against Hamas against qaida against all this wahhabi sh1t.
So Syria killing 20000-40000 people is ok because they were all terrorists
But Israel is bad for defending itself from the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah?

[blackshadow69]

So Syria killing 20000-40000 people is ok because they were all terrorists
But Israel is bad for defending itself from the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah?
Hahaha...Before a minute it was 20000 and now it is 20000 to 40000?rofl
Look the one who defend his land by attacking another is the same like that who attack the first one...Hizzballa didnt occupate Israel so be quite but Israel occupated and still occupaing Lebanese land!

[Snoshi]

Hahaha...Before a minute it was 20000 and now it is 20000 to 40000?rofl
Look the one who defend his land by attacking another is the same like that who attack the first one...Hizzballa didnt occupate Israel so be quite but Israel occupated and still occupaing Lebanese land!

What Lebanse land are you talking about? Again so its ok to massacre 20000 of people?

[Mr.Flint]

Hahaha...Before a minute it was 20000 and now it is 20000 to 40000?rofl
Look the one who defend his land by attacking another is the same like that who attack the first one...Hizzballa didnt occupate Israel so be quite but Israel occupated and still occupaing Lebanese land!
The estimates run from 20000 to 40000, if you have a problem with that. take it to the experts who compiled those numbers.

Israel havent been holding an inch of Lebanese land since 2000, and you should know why Israel got there in the first place, though you will just spew even more ridiculous crap, right out of the textbook of your beloved Nasrallah.

[blackshadow69]

The estimates run from 20000 to 40000, if you have a problem with that. take it to the experts who compiled those numbers.

Israel havent been holding an inch of Lebanese land since 2000, and you should know why Israel got there in the first place, though you will just spew even more ridiculous crap, right out of the textbook of your beloved Nasrallah.
Israel have no rights to go there!That is not an Israeli land so be quite.

[blackshadow69]

What Lebanse land are you talking about? Again so its ok to massacre 20000 of people?
Againe that guy is hiding in France....im talkin about Shabaa fields.

[Mr.Flint]

Israel have no rights to go there!That is not an Israeli land so be quite.
Hey, your Hezzi friends started that war, so knock off the talk about rights, will ya?

Againe that guy is hiding in France....im talkin about Shabaa fields.
Syria says its Syrian, UN confirms... sorry...

[Snoshi]

Againe that guy is hiding in France....im talkin about Shabaa fields.

Shebe farms are not Lebanese but Syrian

"On 15 May 2000, the United Nations received a map, dated 1966, from the Government of Lebanon which reflected the Government's position that these farmlands were located in Lebanon. However, the United Nations is in possession of 10 other maps issued after 1966 by various Lebanese government institutions, including the Ministry of Defense and the army, all of which place the farmlands inside the Syrian Arab Republic. The United Nations has also examined six maps issued by the Government of the Syrian Arab Republic, including three maps since 1966, which place the farmlands inside the Syrian Arab Republic

On a fact-finding visit to the region, Terje Rød-Larsen, the UN special envoy to the Middle East, noted that the 1923 Anglo-French demarcation and the 1949 Armistice line clearly designated the area as Syrian territory.[23]

More recently, the January 20, 2005 UN Secretary-General's report on Lebanon stated rather emphatically:

"The continually asserted position of the Government of Lebanon that the Blue Line is not valid in the Shab'a farms area is not compatible with Security Council resolutions. The Council has recognized the Blue Line as valid for purposes of confirming Israel’s withdrawal pursuant to resolution 425 (1978). The Government of Lebanon should heed the Council’s repeated calls for the parties to respect the Blue Line in its entirety."[39]

quoted Timur Goskel, a spokesman for the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) as saying that "no-one disputed that the village of Shebaa itself was in Lebanon, but most of the farms fell into an undefined area that may be either in Lebanon or Syria" and although the UN was not a "boundary marking authority [...] on all maps the UN has been able to find, the farms are seen on the Syrian side [of the border]."[40]

[blackshadow69]

Hey, your Hezzi friends started that war, so knock off the talk about rights, will ya?

Syria says its Syrian, UN confirms... sorry...
Israel attacked them and they were deffending there land...Give a link where Syria says its Syria...if yes "my hat down" man u will know more than about Shiba but that dosent change the fact that Hizbolla deffended there land:)

[LRPV]

So Syria killing 20000-40000 people is ok because they were all terrorists
But Israel is bad for defending itself from the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah?

Yes, now you are learning....p-)

[Snoshi]

Israel attacked them and they were deffending there land...Give a link where Syria says its Syria...if yes "my hat down" man u will know more than about Shiba but that dosent change the fact that Hizbolla deffended there land:)

First of all Syrians do not regonzie Lebanon as a country

MP Habib who represents the Koura district of North Lebanon is a member of the Lebanese Forces bloc headed by Samir Geagea, who is currently on an official visit to the US.

Habib confirmed that Geagea wants Lebanon to boycott the summit unless Syria recognizes Lebanon as an independent and sovereign state.

Habib told Kuwait News Agency: "Lebanon is a founding member of the Arab League since its creation in 1945."

Habib said that he expects the cabinet decision will call for boycotting the summit.
http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2008/03/mp_habib_let_sy.php

SO FAR this seems straightforward - until Syria enters the picture.

At the time of the 2000 Israeli withdrawal the UN asked Syria about its position on the issue. Damascus was in a quandary: On the one hand, this was obviously Syrian territory; on the other, if Syria conceded that the farms belong to Lebanon, there might be a chance of getting one more sliver of Arab territory out of Israeli hands.

Syria thus responded that whatever its former claims to the Shaba Farms, it now agreed to cede them to Lebanon.

But when the UN asked Damascus for a formal document stating that the area had indeed been legally transferred to Lebanon, Syria balked - and it has still not supplied such a document.

WHY? AT the root of the issue is the simple fact that up to this very day Syria has not accepted the legitimacy of the existence of a separate, sovereign Lebanese state. Lebanon was carved out by the French imperial powers in the 1920s as an attempt to create a pro-Western, Christian entity in the Levant - hence France's continuous solicitude for Lebanon, including its recent support for UN decisions calling on Syria to evacuate Lebanon.

This Syrian non-recognition of Lebanon as an independent state has consequences.

There are no formal diplomatic relations between the two countries; there is no Syrian ambassador in Beirut, no Lebanese ambassador in Damascus; and during the Syrian occupation of Lebanon in the 1980s, Syria's representative in Lebanon was the director of Syrian military intelligence (Ghazi Canaan, who eventually committed suicide in murky circumstances).

In Syrian textbooks Lebanon appears as part of "Greater Syria."

The Syrian refusal to supply a document confirming the ceding of the Shaba Farms to Lebanon is not a mere formality: Were Syria to issue such a document - clearly stating that the farms are part of Lebanon and not of Syria - this would mean Syria recognizes Lebanon as a separate, independent, sovereign state.

Syria has never accepted this, and has never made such a statement.

DIPLOMATS who are now concerned with a cessation of violence in South Lebanon and northern Israel should be aware of this conundrum, which is no mere formality.

If the Shaba Farms appears in any form as part of the deal, this should be accompanied by an unequivocal statement from Syria recognizing that the area belongs to the Republic of Lebanon.

It is my guess that the chances of such a statement are minimal. Without it, the international legitimacy of the agreement - and its subsequent implementation - may be extremely problematic.

The author is professor of political science at the Hebrew University.

Syria dominated Lebanon politically and militarily for almost three decades before disengaging two years ago amid huge anti-Syrian street protests in Beirut. Although the troop withdrawal was subsequently verified by a United Nations team, it was well known that some Syrian military units remained on Lebanese soil, mainly in remote border hills in south east Lebanon. But a report released last week by an anti-Syrian lobby group in Lebanon claims that Syria still controls 177 square miles of Lebanon, almost 4.5% of this tiny Mediterranean country. The report also highlighted dozens of illegal border crossings snaking through the rugged mountains used to smuggle weapons and militants into Lebanon as well as more benign goods such as diesel fuel and cigarettes. "Because Syria will not recognize Lebanon as a sovereign country and because it still considers it as part of Syria, it has kept the border issue alive by creating regular incidents of conflict and contention," the report said.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1649250,00.html

[LRPV]

Hahaha...Before a minute it was 20000 and now it is 20000 to 40000?rofl
Look the one who defend his land by attacking another is the same like that who attack the first one...Hizzballa didnt occupate Israel so be quite but Israel occupated and still occupaing Lebanese land!

Are you a plague upon MP.net? You have hijacked one thread and sent any intellectual debate scurrying, now you are trolling this thread, how about doing what you wrote on the other thread and thinking 100 times before posting?

[Mr.Flint]

Israel attacked them and they were deffending there land...Give a link where Syria says its Syria...if yes "my hat down" man u will know more than about Shiba but that dosent change the fact that Hizbolla deffended there land:)
Really? What kind of defense is it, when out of the blue you shell border towns, attack border patrols on the other side of the border, and kidnap soldiers? Because thats what you Hezzi friends did...

[Masai]

holy cr@p!!!

why is this sh!t still going on ?

[blackshadow69]

Really? What kind of defense is it, when out of the blue you shell border towns, attack border patrols on the other side of the border, and kidnap soldiers? Because thats what you Hezzi friends did...
And what kind of defense is that what Israel did in 2006?What kind of diffense Israel did for past 15 years before year 2000 when it had to leave Lebanon?What kind of diffense is when Israeli jets make a ride over Lebanon evry month?

[Snoshi]

And what kind of defense is that what Israel did in 2006?What kind of diffense Israel did for past 15 years before year 2000 when it had to leave Lebanon?What kind of diffense is when Israeli jets make a ride over Lebanon evry month?

The kind of defence that taught Hezbollah a lesson.. Now they are quite and haven't even retaliated after Muganie assassination.
Since 2006 war Israeli-Lebanon border have been quitest since Israeli withdrawal in 2000..

Do you even know why Israel had to invade Lebanon in 1982?

[blackshadow69]

The kind of defence that taught Hezbollah a lesson.. Now they are quite and haven't even retaliated after Muganie assassination.

Do you even know why Israel had to invade Lebanon in 1982?
I dont call this invade i call this occupate!Defending is when i came to ur house and u kick me out if i didnt enter ur house and u r comming becoz u want to diffence ur house i will ... u know what i will do.

[khukuri]

Are you missing the point on purpose?

The point of Hamas being the same Sunni fanatical sh1t as AQ?
(remember it was Hamas who demanded the return of Andalus)
Being fanatical Sunni Salafists (=Wahabbists) didnt stop them from allying to Iran's shiites.
Why would it prevent AQ then?
I advise you to read on Lebanons civil war, to learn how quickly two enemies can become best friends against someone they both hate.


Lol after your other comments, this one is a real pearl... what happened to your statement that killing civvies is bad?:)


No majorly big difference.

AQ = Wahhabi = Beleives shiites are infidels and should be killed like the jews (literallly)

Hamas = classical sunni = Beleiveies shiites are wrong but still brothers

[a_very_ex_STAB]

No majorly big difference.

AQ = Wahhabi = Beleives shiites are infidels and should be killed like the jews (literallly)

Hamas = classical sunni = Beleiveies shiites are wrong but still brothers

My point exactly

[Bia]

What Lebanse land are you talking about? Again so its ok to massacre 20000 of people?
Sure it is. We do it. Why cant others?

[Midnight-Magic]

Don't you guys know that one of the reasons for America wanting to invade Iran is for a -Stargate- located there?

The first thing they did in Bagdad was storm the museum and steal ancient Babylonian artifacts. I'm puzzled no one has heard of this. I think I will have to open a topic soon so you guys can catch up on some stuff.

[Pars]

Let me give you my in-depth analysis of this complex issue:

No, AQ and Iran aren't and have never been allies. Iran almost went to war with them.

[Mordoror]

and it is pityful tha the western countries did not let the Iranian army run over the Taliban and squash then when they kidnapped and killed some of iranian diplomats in 2000
If it was done, many things (including 9/11, Astan war and other things) may have be different ....