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delio
04-28-2008, 01:45 AM
Rage or Romance?

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April 26, 2008 at 1:35 AM EDT
GROZNY, Chechnya — Amina Edieva's abductor stalked her like a seasoned predator. He approached the slender, raven-haired 18-year-old student on a Grozny side street, hoisted her off the ground in a tight bear hug and dragged her into a waiting car.

She screamed, kicked and scratched at the man, but he brought three male friends, a driver and two backup abductors to ensure she couldn't escape. More young men in a second vehicle trailed, on the lookout for witnesses who might try to halt the brazen afternoon capture.

But Ms. Edieva knew that no Chechen would rescue her that September day nearly three years ago. Well versed in Chechnya's bride-abducting traditions, she understood she was caught up in a centuries-old ritual in which her captor, a suitor she had frequently rebuffed, was going to force her to marry him.

"I told him I hated him," she said, but he smiled.

"It doesn't matter if you love me or hate me," he told her calmly. "I want you, and you are going to be my wife."

Across Chechnya and neighbouring Ingushetia, violent bride abductions are staged nearly every week in the mountain-ringed, southern Russian republics known as the North Caucasus; during the spring wedding season, it can happen every day. Young women are snatched from bus stops, on their way home from school and sometimes out of their own yards. A shocking video with clips of men dragging screaming young women, their books, purses and cellphones sent flying, is a popular YouTube posting.

Authorities in the two restive republics routinely turn a blind eye to the violent practice, preferring to depict it as a romantic tradition, often staged by the starry-eyed young couples themselves.

Some claim the practice has a fairytale quality and many young women dream of being abducted by a handsome man.

"It's a sign that [a man] really loves her," said Mariyat Muskeeva, a cultural liaison officer with the Chechen local government. "If a woman can tell her children that their father kidnapped her, it's a great love story."

Most women interviewed across Chechnya and Ingushetia disagreed, saying they felt no affection from the men who stalked them and shoved them into waiting cars. Others said the custom has no place in modern society.

"The government wants to deny this is a problem," said Ms. Edieva, who eventually left her husband after a tense eight-month marriage. "They treat it as a normal thing."

There are no hard statistics on how many women are seized each year in Chechnya and Ingushetia, but human-rights organizations say it is in the thousands. Locals estimate that about half of all marriages begin with abductions.

During the Soviet era, Chechnya and Ingushetia were a single, autonomous republic, and the two cultures revolve first around the tightly knit, patriarchal families, followed by loyalty to the local clan.

Chechens, in particular, are proud of the region's non-Russian identity. In interviews, when asked why bride abduction persists in the 21st century, many replied: "It is our tradition."

Chechen magazine editor Lula Jumalaeva also noted that two wars have left a dire shortage of men. Unmarried women have no status in the society and many are desperate to marry, she said. With so few men, their odds are low of securing husbands of their choosing. If seized, they may feel pressure to marry the captor, especially if his family is suitable.

Family disputes, crimes and most social issues are settled by religious leaders and clan elders, not state authorities. Blood feuds and vigilante justice are common.

It is said that these strong family networks and disciplined religious brotherhoods helped Chechens survive three successive national tragedies, including the Stalin-ordered deportations of almost 400,000 Chechens to Kazakhstan in the 1940s, followed by two brutal wars with Russia in 1994 and 1999.

Women's roles in these tradition-bound societies are largely submissive and they perform the lion's share of household tasks. They are expected to act demurely in the presence of men and to eat at separate tables.

"In our society, we don't like girls who don't obey the rules and who have been touched," said Khamid Gabayev, 79, an elder in the alpine village of Vashendoroy in southern Chechnya. As he spoke, two women bustled around him, one pouring tea, the other cleaning his muddy shoes.

Ms. Muskeeva, the Chechen cultural liaison officer, said bride abductions are expressions of the passionate nature of North Caucasian men and women. "The kidnapping marriages are stronger than other marriages."

But Ms. Edieva barely knew her real-life captor and she was dating another man she longed to marry.

In the first minutes after she was grabbed, her mind flipped though the list of abduction rules most Chechen women know by heart: If she did not escape before morning, there would be no chance of avoiding the forced marriage.

If an unmarried Chechen woman spends a night in a man's house, she is considered to be his wife. If he touches her before marriage, she is thought to be tainted.

"I was about to faint," Ms. Edieva said in a recent interview at her parents' Grozny home. "He had already touched me. I was afraid that if my boyfriend found out, he would never see me again."

The speeding car drove past a military checkpoint manned by Chechens and Russians. The Chechen soldiers would not blink an eye, but she screamed out to the Russian soldiers. No one helped.

For nine hours, Ms. Edieva was held captive, pressured by a crowd of her abductor's relatives, who gathered at his home.

"There were nine men standing around me in a circle," she said. "I was screaming that I will die if I spend the night here. But they were laughing at me."

Just before 1 a.m., she found a cellphone and called home, but her mother was reluctant to rescue her. After she pleaded with an older brother, relatives took her home. Her mother and sister told her she was silly for resisting the match.

The next day, under pressure from her mother and grandfather, she gave in and agreed to marry her abductor, a man she identified only as Aslambeck.

Nine days later, Ms. Edieva, her makeup smudged by tears, was married in a traditional Chechen ceremony where she stood alone in a corner for hours at the groom's house, forbidden to speak or sit until the elders left.

Today, as a divorced young woman in a traditional Muslim culture, her marriage prospects have narrowed. She could marry a divorced man, or become a second wife, neither of which appeal to her.

Back home at her parents' house, Ms. Edieva has not re-enrolled in university and spends hours watching TV. She loves to try on bridal gowns and watch wedding videos.

Her future, she said, is ruined.

"Chechen traditions, they're all about what the parents want," she said bitterly.

Despite the official line that bride abduction is largely stage-managed by the young lovers themselves, scores of young Chechen and Ingush women told similar stories of abductions followed by hours of agonizing negotiations, often with complicit relatives.

Ms. Muskeeva said she doubted these stories, insisting that few Chechen women are forced to marry.

"If a girl doesn't want marriage, if the man's family doesn't want the marriage, if there is no mutual agreement, there is no marriage," she said.

During the interview, her boss, Isa Askhagov, entered the room and described how he captured his wife years ago. The two were dating and planned to marry, but she wanted to first finish medical school. He snatched her on her way home from classes. She was angry at first but he allowed her to finish her studies and today they have five children.

"It's like a play that's acted out," Mr. Askhagov said. "Chechen girls grow up in strict families. A girl wants a real man she can respect."

Of all the Chechen and Ingush traditions, the rules governing courtship and marriage are among the most strict.
Physical contact between an unmarried couple is forbidden. "Dates" normally consist of two people meeting in a public space for a conversation. A man must keep a distance of at least a metre from his female companion.

Chechen and Ingush women are rarely seen in public without head scarves and they never wear pants.


For many young Chechen men, the lack of physical intimacy is unbearable. Umar Makhauri abducted his 16-year-old bride, Malika Makhaeva, outside her grandparents' village house 34 years ago.


He said he had been overcome with desire. "I needed her and so I kidnapped her. I was young and my blood was boiling."

His family and friends supported the abduction and helped lure Ms. Makhaeva from her grandparents' house.
Now 57, he regrets what he did, admitting it caused his wife a lifetime of emotional pain.
Mr. Makhauri's midlife regrets have cost him little, though. He later took a second wife, a Grozny lawyer with whom he now lives part of the week.

His first wife and five of their six children, meanwhile, live outside Grozny in a large family compound. She said she has "never had a day of happiness" with her husband, adding she stayed in the marriage to keep custody of her children.

According to Chechen tradition, children of a divorced couple live with the father.

Ms. Makhaeva said the heartbreak of her marriage left more emotional scars than both wars combined. "My husband has a full life, with his family here and a second wife. I don't.

"And there was another boy I was in love with … ," she added, her voice trailing off.

"It's a sign that [a man] really loves her," said Mariyat Muskeeva, a cultural liaison officer with the Chechen local government. "If a woman can tell her children that their father kidnapped her, it's a great love story."




http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20080424/wbrides04262/02brides_500big.jpg

Chechen Heda Beckova, 26, was kidnapped from a refugee barracks in Ingushetia, in Russia's
North Caucasus region. Its neighbours are Chechnya and North Ossetia.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqPf9hnazxs

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Calanen
04-28-2008, 01:48 AM
Borat approves. High five!

INAT
04-28-2008, 01:49 AM
If an unmarried Chechen woman spends a night in a man's house, she is considered to be his wife.

Sounds like the plot to a really bad sitcom.

This whole bride abduction business is on par with hitting a woman in the head with a club and taking her back to you cave.

Bushranger
04-28-2008, 02:10 AM
why dont they wake up its the 21st century, this & honour killings whats doing in this world.

Lt-Col A. Tack
04-28-2008, 08:18 AM
Didn't Romulus try something similar with the Sabine women? :)

Warlord
04-28-2008, 08:26 AM
why dont they wake up its the 21st century, this & honour killings whats doing in this world.

Hold up with this 21st century thing....

No I don't approve of honor killings or clubbing women in the head....but there's a tradition we have like eating dogs or whatever that should not be included in this kind of mindset just because it's "already the 21st century and people shouldn't be doing that". Somethings must be kept legal even if it's already the 23rd century.

Actually. I have no argument here.

Move along.

Nothing to read.

Vehemence
04-28-2008, 08:28 AM
Hold up with this 21st century thing....

No I don't approve of honor killings or clubbing women in the head....but there's a tradition we have like eating dogs or whatever that should not be included in this kind of mindset just because it's "already the 21st century and people shouldn't be doing that". Somethings must be kept legal even if it's already the 23rd century.

Actually. I have no argument here.

Move along.

Nothing to read.

Now we know how you meet your significant other.

BugHunt
04-28-2008, 08:34 AM
Bride abductions the stalkers charter.....


Trouble seems to be a large part of the world actually exsists in the medieval era - they may use cars phones and cameras but they sure as hell dont think like us.....


If you had a daughter over there you'd have to get a bunch to Elite Team Fighters to protect her ;)

Warlord
04-28-2008, 09:29 AM
Now we know how you meet your significant other.

It's called Chloroform.

Salman
04-28-2008, 09:35 AM
An effective way of making complicated things simple! :)

The women should do the same thing. How would you guys feel about being abducted by a 200kg peasant women and forced to marry her? :)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100157/

MichaelF
04-28-2008, 09:41 AM
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9344/pedophileae4.jpg

Vehemence
04-28-2008, 09:46 AM
It's called Chloroform.

You'll be the first person that lacks the capability to satisfy an unconscious woman.

Snoshi
04-28-2008, 09:49 AM
http://kinomuz.ru/files/2088/image.jpg

:)

Fargin
04-28-2008, 09:59 AM
Do they have a website. I'm ofcause slightly outraged.

SOG
04-28-2008, 12:36 PM
"It doesn't matter if you love me or hate me," he told her calmly. "I want you, and you are going to be my wife."
And here I thought ladies loved confidence in a man. I have to admit, as stupid as it is, it does have a somewhat weird romantic vibe to it. The whole pre-arranged marriage thing but way more crazy.

Laworkerbee
04-28-2008, 12:52 PM
why dont they wake up its the 21st century, this & honour killings whats doing in this world.


In interviews, when asked why bride abduction persists in the 21st century, many replied: "It is our tradition."............................

WKD
04-28-2008, 02:24 PM
Hey there is hope for me yet.

2Sheds_Jackson
04-28-2008, 03:15 PM
And here I thought ladies loved confidence in a man. I have to admit, as stupid as it is, it does have a somewhat weird romantic vibe to it.

No, see that's what I used to think. After trial and error, I discovered it's only romantic for them if the guy looks like Matthew McConaughey. Otherwise, it's assault, or attempted what-not. Pfft, women.

SOG
04-28-2008, 04:04 PM
No, see that's what I used to think. After trial and error, I discovered it's only romantic for them if the guy looks like Matthew McConaughey. Otherwise, it's assault, or attempted what-not. Pfft, women.

You have crushed my confidence. My eyes are not gem cut blue diamonds as McConaughey but instead a vomitous bastard mix of hazel.

2Sheds_Jackson
04-28-2008, 04:47 PM
God tell me about it. And did you know they're not as crazy about back hair as chest hair?

Squeezee
04-28-2008, 05:06 PM
Didn't Romulus try something similar with the Sabine women? :)


Yes actually he did. He had a huge feast, and his men kidnapped them while the Sabine men were elsewhere. They all got raped and were now part of Roman families. The Sabine king, Titus Tatius, tried to fight for the women back, but it was stopped when the women ran on to the battlefield. They pleaded to stop fighting because they loved their Roman husbands so much. So Romulus and Titus Tatius ruled together, then Titus was killed in battle. From what I know Romulus went missing in a storm.


Sorry if you didn't feel like learning today:|.


Anywho, this is one weird way of life. But if it is their tradition, so be it.