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Afro-European
04-28-2008, 07:17 AM
Two Ways out for Georgia

You can consider the possibility of using force addressing the Georgian-Abkhazian and the Georgian-South ossetian conflicts only when you compare two variants of the developments.

Scenario 1: According to the first scenario, President Saakashvili won’t dare use military force against the unrecognized republics, understanding what consequences this might have for his relations with Russia. Acting this way, Mikhail Saakashvili would give Moscow every reason to believe that the policy it has conducted towards Tbilisi can be justified. The policy suggests that the relations between Russia and Georgia must be improved, with the pressure in trade, post communications and visas decreased; and at the same time Moscow should make no concessions regarding the frozen conflicts and Georgia’s admission to NATO. Besides Moscow and the unrecognized republics, Georgia’s neighbors disputing Nagorno-Karabakh will be among those benefiting from this scenario. “Georgia didn’t dare use force in Abkhazia, and neither will Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh,” they’ll think in Yerevan. In case the use of force can be avoided, Europe will feel the sense of relief because it simply doesn’t want the situation to escalate. Only Washington can feel disappointed, considering another opportunity to demonstrate its hard line on Moscow to be lost.

But it’s Mikhail Saakashvili who will hardly benefit from the scenario. From the viewpoint of the Georgian nation, he will lose another sufficient element of his charisma, which was initially based on his image of “the gatherer of the Georgian lands.” As a result, he will lose to the Georgian opposition, whose line on the unrecognized republics is even tougher. You can have no doubt that the opposition will use its chance to accuse the president, with his reputation already spoiled, of conceding to the Kremlin.

Scenario 2: The second possible variant suggests military escalation. We’ll proceed from the assumption that Georgia will be defeated in this case. Paradoxically, this military defeat will turn out a political victory for President Saakashvili. First, he will retain his charisma, appearing a hero in the view of his nation, and uniting society. Second, the military conflict will worsen the prospects of the Georgian opposition, exploiting the theme of patriotism. Third, a clear message will be sent to Moscow: Putin’s plan concerning Georgia doesn’t work. Such a scenario will imply that it’s impossible to develop normal relations with Tbilisi without resolving the Abkhazia and South Ossetia conflicts. For Europe – Germany, France and Italy – the military scenario will appear a real headache. In Washington they’ll probably say, “You see, Georgia is weak, it needs to be placed under the NATO umbrella as soon as possible.”

Conclusion: Mikhail Saakashvili can risk it, convincing himself that “nothing ventured, nothing gained.” His career as the leader of the nation is at stake today. And it’s his last chance to stay afloat

http://www.kommersant.com/p887482/r_520/Two_scenarios_of_resolving_frozen_conflicts_in_Georgia/

Excalibur
04-28-2008, 08:01 AM
Interesting analysis.
true, in current status-quo Saakashvili's stragle for political survival is not an easy task, but I don't think the 2nd scenario is realistic since another defeat in war and lost lives of hundreds or possibly thousands of georgian
soldiers and civilians will make Saakashvili more popular. Politically, I think, that from any unsuccessful war or even limited military operation
only opposition will benefit.

Afro-European
04-28-2008, 08:14 AM
Interesting analysis.
true, in current status-quo Saakashvili's stragle for political survival is not an easy task, but I don't think the 2nd scenario is realistic since another defeat in war and lost lives of hundreds or possibly thousands of georgian
soldiers and civilians will make Saakashvili more popular. Politically, I think, that from any unsuccessful war or even limited military operation
only opposition will benefit.

Accoring to the analysis,Shakashvili is hoping that Nato would jump in if Georgia were to front Russia(which remains to be seen).I don't think Georgia would have retake those 2 breakaways regions.
The best solution for both sides would the the "Taiwan way": status-quo.

Excalibur
04-28-2008, 08:49 AM
Accoring to the analysis,Shakashvili is hoping that Nato would jump in if Georgia were to front Russia(which remains to be seen).I don't think Georgia would have retake those 2 breakaways regions.
The best solution for both sides would the the "Taiwan way": status-quo.

His rhetorical effort to join NATO is just another populist move. He (as many people in Georgia) knows that neither US nor other NATO countries will get into Caucasian ethnic conflicts. Nevertheless, the idea of joining NATO and EU is very popular in Georgia. They terribly want to become part of Europe, part of western world. of course they are dreaming. they are decades away from joining EU or even NATO, but Saakashvili uses those dreams as fuel for his populism.

Igor01
04-28-2008, 12:17 PM
His rhetorical effort to join NATO is just another populist move. He (as many people in Georgia) knows that neither US nor other NATO countries will not get into Caucasian ethnic conflicts. Nevertheless, the idea joining NATO and EU is very popular in Georgia. They terribly want to become part of Europe, part of western world. of course they are dreaming. they are decades away from joining EU or even NATO, but Saakashvili uses those dreams as fuel for his populism.

Exactly right, his entire pitch to the electorate is that of "joining the West" to have a prosperous life and security from a supposed military threat by Russia. These are the guys that named a city square in their capital after George W. Bush and hang the EU flag next to Georgian flag in every televised press-conference. They insist on using English to communicate to other ex-Soviet republics leaders at summits, even though they all speak perfect Russian and struggle with English.

They blame Russia (and Putin personally) for all Georgian problems, regardless of facts or even the timing of events. Even the very fact that Georgia asked the Russian Empire repeatedly to take it under protection from Turks that were well on the way to completely wiping Georgians off as a nation is somehow the fault of Russia.

The worst thing is that the young generation of Georgians grew up believing that Russians are to blame for everything, that Georgians have superior democratic traditions and deserve to be a part of the "developed world" unlike the savage Ivans with their inherent liking for serfdom and oppression.

The whole thing would be quite comical if it wasn't so tragically misguided.

blackshadow69
04-29-2008, 01:43 AM
This one is interesting...sorry its in Russian.
http://www.newsru.com/world/29apr2008/georgia.html

Kangars
04-29-2008, 05:58 AM
This one is interesting...sorry its in Russian.
http://www.newsru.com/world/29apr2008/georgia.html

Amusing! Georgian propaganda failed again!