Palestinian APCs.

[ExtraT]

Looks like pals got new APCs at their disposal. They are made by Ford:

http://e.tln0.com/ame/archives/*******_UN_amblulances_11_may_04.wmv

Check it out, it's very educational.

[Maverick77]

hahaha

[American Patriot]

Red Crescent at work?

[ExtraT]

Nope. The ambulance in the end of the video is a UN ambulance.

[ExtraT]

BTW, Kofi Annan categorically denies that UN ambulances are used by terrorists. A couple of days ago he was asking for evidence.

I guess we're going to see another scandal in the UN now, right? Or, rather, the double standard will kick in as it always does?

[UkrainianAmerican]

Why wont the IDF machine gunners shred those APCs every now and then?

[Dennis G]

good quality video, I wish I had some Israeli special forces vodes like that

[ZeroPositive]

interesting video, sad to see the UN and ambulances used like this....

[One?]

The person in the middle was injured and he was taken to the hospital. He might be a high ranking person so he required bodyguards. I'm sure you have seen gunment in hospitals before. And Israel is known to go into hospitals to capture wanted people although they are wounded.

[American Patriot]

No, you are thinking too hard about this.

The UN supports terrorists, has terrorists as heads of its committees, and is anti-semitic. The fact that they are helping Palestinian terrorists is not a surprise.

[ZeroPositive]

No, you are thinking too hard about this.

The UN supports terrorists, has terrorists as heads of its committees, and is anti-semitic. The fact that they are helping Palestinian terrorists is not a surprise.

What a load of Bollocks.....

If you critize anything Israeli or Jewish....Instantly you get branded an anti semitic....

[RavenW]

If you critize anything Israeli or Jewish....Instantly you get branded an anti semitic....

Yep. That's pretty much in definition. If you got problems with something being "Jewish" or "Israeli" (like their homeland), then I think you are a brain moron.

What's your problem with Jews, anyway?

[RavenW]

As long as I know, last year UN wanted to elect Iraq (Saddam's) as a head of arms control comitee, Libya supposed to be the chairman of Human Rights committee, and Syria was presiding on Security Coucnicl...

that says it all, organization that elects Libya, Syria and Saddam's Iraq to chair their main bodies. And organization who honestly listen to the opinion of bunch of ****heads from Africa and Third world countries, whose only input in our civilization for the last 50 years was starvation, civil wars and slave trafficing (as well as drug trafficing) and GENOCIDE.

Cambodia, Sudan, Angola, North Korea... yeah... those are nice members of international community, whose opinions must be very important for the States and Israel.

For all I know, any sane civilized country must lieave that stupid organization, and stop to pretend that there is somekind of equality betwen civilized democratic world and bunch of bandits who just came out from the jungle 4 days ago raping and pillaging whole villages in the process, but already claim an ambition to rule the world and dictate their will in it.

[ZeroPositive]

If you critize anything Israeli or Jewish....Instantly you get branded an anti semitic....

Yep. That's pretty much in definition. If you got problems with something being "Jewish" or "Israeli" (like their homeland), then I think you are a brain moron.

What's your problem with Jews, anyway?

I have no problems with Jews, but I like the idea of being able to voice my opinion and not being instantly branded an anti semitic when it is something I am questioning about policy etc not religion.

anyway have a nice day.

[RavenW]

You can voice your opinion (and I believe you should voice your opinion) as much as you want as long as they are not anti-semitic in their core... like for example, let me ask you a question, do you believe in fundamental right of Jews to live in the land of their own? in the land where they and their ancestors lived for generations.

For example, Jews lived in Hebron uninterrupted for 2000 years before Jordanian and West Bank Arabs murdered most of Hebron's Jewish community.

Do you believe in the right of a child to live in the home that his father build with his own two hands and where his grandfather is buried? (precisely Gaza Strip, where third generation of Jews are born right now).

Or you perfectly fine with forcing thousands of Jews from their own homes (just because their neighbours are xenophobic anti-semites who cann't stand the sight of a Jew living in his own house) and at the same time so ultimately against "inhumane" transfer of Palestinian Arabs from the same area?

I smell double standard. It's not okay to force Arabs from their homes, but when it comes to Jews, it's ok... after all they lived in misery and under persecution for 2000 thousand years, what's the big deal? they're only Jews!

I for one believe in 3 state solution, where both Arabs and Jews have a right to live in West Bank of Jordan river, and noone can take this right from them- not USA, not Europe, Not Israel or Arab countries.

This land belongs to the people that are living there.

[Javehn]

The person in the middle was injured and he was taken to the hospital. He might be a high ranking person so he required bodyguards. I'm sure you have seen gunment in hospitals before. And Israel is known to go into hospitals to capture wanted people although they are wounded.

No , dude , this is not local "Red sahar" ambulance . This is an ambulance of UNRWA . Of United Nations .
First of all , you are just guessing now .
Second , if it was a local Ambulance , let's say it wasn't such a big deal . But this is an official ambulance of United Nation . They cannot take any armed personnell .


This thing should raise a **** storm . Instead , ******* covered up that video tape , Koffi Annan repeated that there is no way Ambulances used this way . He asked a proof from Israel , and now when he got it , no **** storm . Interesting one .
Even on this forum a picture and a thread from this thing sank very fast without any responce what so ever (unlike other Israeli related threads) .

[RavenW]

Imagine what kind of **** storm there would be if Israelis would start to use Palestinian tactics... :roll:

[henksmoeder]

Imagine what kind of **** storm there would be if Israelis would start to use Palestinian tactics... :roll:

Imagine what kind of **** storm there would be if Palestinians would start to use Israeli tactics... :roll:

[Javehn]

What kind of tactics is that ?
Shooting pragnet woman from a blank zero , and her little kids too , or trying to shoot and blow up on a bus with custom workers ?

Or perhaps instead of using ATGM's to shoot military vehicles in fighting , to shoot civilian houses and buses ?

Yea , real outrage in the world :roll:

And what Israeli tactics that would be ? To bring a wounded Iraqi doctor , and treat him in Haddasa hospital ?
Or to compensate the families that got their houses demolished in operation in Rafah ?
How those ****ers dare , right ;) ?

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

The UN supports terrorists, has terrorists as heads of its committees, and is anti-semitic. The fact that they are helping Palestinian terrorists is not a surprise.

Yeah, US should kill all those terrorist motherf*kers in blue helmets and their bosses (presidents of 200 countries).

BTW. Red Cross helps terrorists too. Kill 'em all!

[Adri]

do they hijack the ambulance ?

seams natural to do what the armed menn tells you when some guys storm your ambulance....

[American Patriot]

The UN supports terrorists, has terrorists as heads of its committees, and is anti-semitic. The fact that they are helping Palestinian terrorists is not a surprise.

Yeah, US should kill all those terrorist motherf*kers in blue helmets and their bosses (presidents of 200 countries).

BTW. Red Cross helps terrorists too. Kill 'em all!

Flame bait will go unanswered

[big80a2]

so when gunman enter or shoot from an ambulance it's status change, doesn't it? and then it is alowed to engage it.

[S'13]

Imagine what kind of **** storm there would be if Israelis would start to use Palestinian tactics... :roll:

Imagine what kind of **** storm there would be if Palestinians would start to use Israeli tactics... :roll:

You mean actually attack military targets and combatants for a change and not civilians?!

[Sirpad]

so when gunman enter or shoot from an ambulance it's status change, doesn't it? and then it is alowed to engage it.

and then be forever condemned for attacking civilian ambulances(!), for god's sake...

somebody has to stop those raging lunatics... :roll:

[big80a2]

so when gunman enter or shoot from an ambulance it's status change, doesn't it? and then it is alowed to engage it.

and then be forever condemned for attacking civilian ambulances(!), for god's sake...

somebody has to stop those raging lunatics... :roll:

well it was a sireuos question you can pick it up sarcastic but that is not what I mean ;)

I was just thinking here to prove the point that the ambulance changes from a non combat vehicle to a combat vehicle.
And there for it's legal to ingage it.
Hehe must be my english formulation ;)

no ofencing here I'm on your side ;)

[Marmot1]

Imagine what kind of **** storm there would be if Israelis would start to use Palestinian tactics... :roll:

Imagine what kind of **** storm there would be if Palestinians would start to use Israeli tactics... :roll:

You mean actually attack military targets and combatants for a change and not civilians?!

SO why out of 3000 palestinians killed since year 2000, 500 of them were children??? 1/6 ... ?
Edit: At the same time 110 israeli kids were kiled by palestinians... which give ratio 1/8... (around 800 jews were killed) ? Terrorists puck up targets better??? or what?

[S'13]

Imagine what kind of **** storm there would be if Israelis would start to use Palestinian tactics... :roll:

Imagine what kind of **** storm there would be if Palestinians would start to use Israeli tactics... :roll:

You mean actually attack military targets and combatants for a change and not civilians?!

SO why out of 3000 palestinians killed since year 2000, 500 of them were children??? 1/6 ... ?
Edit: At the same time 110 israeli kids were kiled by palestinians... which give ratio 1/8... (around 800 jews were killed) ? Terrorists puck up targets better??? or what?

Because fighting Palestinian terrorists in a place like the territories isn't like fighting a regular army on a regular battlefield and there is greater risk of civilians and children among them getting hurt because of the army's actions against terrorists and combatant as a whole.

I hope you're aware that in many cases Palestinian terrorists got children involved in the conflict, also there are plenty of cases in which Palestinian terrorists were directly responsible for the death of Palestinian civilians and children among them.

I would like to know the source of the figure you brought forth and see if that source gives a definition as to in which age a person is seen as a chilled, that's because I know of figures showing 18 year olds to be children.

[Felix]

Javehn, how did ******* cover this up? It was not only on their website, but on several channels. I saw it.

Dumbass.

[Felix]

Javehn, how did ******* cover this up? It was not only on their website, but on several channels. I saw it.

[Javehn]

Javehn, how did ******* cover this up? It was not only on their website, but on several channels. I saw it.

One time is enough , dude :) .

******* videotaped a case of Ambulance using in 11 this month . Reuterts held the videotape away from the screen , until official Israeli petition to show that videotape .
Another funny story (or less funny) is , that on May 14 , ******* had a news flash with anext headline: Israeli gunmen used UN ambulances to carry remains . It was a typo , but it held for a long time .

Ok , now about the dumbass ... ?!?

[UkrainianAmerican]

so when gunman enter or shoot from an ambulance it's status change, doesn't it? and then it is alowed to engage it.
Yeah, according to Geneva Convention, once the armed men got inside the ambulance, it is perfectly legal to shoot a tank shell or two at it.

[Javehn]

Let's not carry away , this is still Ambulance , and the ****storm as Sirpad said , would be gigantic .

[big80a2]

so when gunman enter or shoot from an ambulance it's status change, doesn't it? and then it is alowed to engage it.
Yeah, according to Geneva Convention, once the armed men got inside the ambulance, it is perfectly legal to shoot a tank shell or two at it.

that's what I also think

[Moledet]

No, you are thinking too hard about this.

The UN supports terrorists, has terrorists as heads of its committees, and is anti-semitic. The fact that they are helping Palestinian terrorists is not a surprise.

What a load of Bollocks.....

If you critize anything Israeli or Jewish....Instantly you get branded an anti semitic....
read:
http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/un/all.html

[GrimmyRX]

No, you are thinking too hard about this.

The UN supports terrorists, has terrorists as heads of its committees, and is anti-semitic. The fact that they are helping Palestinian terrorists is not a surprise.

What a load of Bollocks.....

If you critize anything Israeli or Jewish....Instantly you get branded an anti semitic....
read:
http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/un/all.html

And how does that disprove his point/question?

[Moledet]

No, you are thinking too hard about this.

The UN supports terrorists, has terrorists as heads of its committees, and is anti-semitic. The fact that they are helping Palestinian terrorists is not a surprise.

What a load of Bollocks.....

If you critize anything Israeli or Jewish....Instantly you get branded an anti semitic....
read:
http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/un/all.html

And how does that disprove his point/question?
It proves him that the UN has a double standard towards Israel particularly and towards Jews generally. Having a double standard towards Jews is being Antisemitic.

[SeanAshi]

It's time to send Yasser Arafat into exile.