US intelligence not entirely intelligence

[RA88IT]

As an proud American I find all these published news articles troubling. Our own government and media selling out our government's intelligence reports. On "China Military build up." and Iran, Syria, and North Korea on WMD."
Why can't the CIA and other agencies keep a lid on themselves.

Say we find a actual Nuclear Silo in Iran. Next you know its on the news. Then 48 days later theres a update on that very picture being a crapper. Wouldn't help if it were never mention?


Its a :-*$

[Dispatcher]

As an proud American I find all these published news articles troubling. Our own government and media selling out our government's intelligence reports. On "China Military build up." and Iran, Syria, and North Korea on WMD."
Why can't the CIA and other agencies keep a lid on themselves.

Say we find a actual Nuclear Silo in Iran. Next you know its on the news. Then 48 days later theres a update on that very picture being a crapper. Wouldn't help if it were never mention?


Its a :-*$

They are your governments reports. That means your government can do with them what they like i.e. publish them.

Governments are like that.

I could type a thesis of 10000 words to explain why the intelligence community works in the way it works, but i wont.

They get more things right then they get wrong. Always keep that in mind.

[RA88IT]

I just believe whenever US decided to brown nose someone they can do it incognito. So we don't get bad feedback.

What pisses me off is when the media likes to go for the wrongs. Because bad news somehow always outweigh the benefit of good news. Oh Well sometimes I think I am the only one that cares. Everyone else is watching news on their pop stars shaving there own heads. and watching that whacked ass show American Idol.

[Calanen]

Say we find a actual Nuclear Silo in Iran. Next you know its on the news. Then 48 days later theres a update on that very picture being a crapper. Wouldn't help if it were never mention?


The public *mostly* only get to see, what the government want them to see. Occasionally there is an embarassing leak. But only, occasionally. They think long and hard before they release anything, usually.

[Connaught Ranger]

In the Poor Foot Soldiers dictionary and almanac "Contradiction" is defined as:

Military Intelligence.

Connaught Ranger

[DesktopArmor]

As an proud American I find all these published news articles troubling. Our own government and media selling out our government's intelligence reports. On "China Military build up." and Iran, Syria, and North Korea on WMD."
Why can't the CIA and other agencies keep a lid on themselves.

Say we find a actual Nuclear Silo in Iran. Next you know its on the news. Then 48 days later theres a update on that very picture being a crapper. Wouldn't help if it were never mention?


Its a :-*$

China's military buildup is necessary to show the public the threat. It's an awful paradox for intelligence. If they say it in advance, but it doesn't really happen, then they look stupid. If they sit on it and it happens, they get blamed for not making it public. It's a no-win situation. As for military intelligence in general, I'd say the problem isn't saying to much, but sitting on too much that they're unwilling to share. That makes it harder for intelligence personnel to do their jobs, not bureaucrats making a few assertions. If you're an enemy of the US, it is stupid and idiotic to believe that you are not being watched 24/7/52 for any threatening behavior.

[Chulo]

In the Poor Foot Soldiers dictionary and almanac "Contradiction" is defined as:

Military Intelligence.

Connaught Ranger
My! that is a contradiction

[-Church-]

As an proud American I find all these published news articles troubling. Our own government and media selling out our government's intelligence reports. On "China Military build up." and Iran, Syria, and North Korea on WMD."
Why can't the CIA and other agencies keep a lid on themselves.

Say we find a actual Nuclear Silo in Iran. Next you know its on the news. Then 48 days later theres a update on that very picture being a crapper. Wouldn't help if it were never mention?

Two things, one transparency, second when you're the leader of a country actively seeking to put Iran in the crapper, you keep hammering your people with they have WMDs, they're building a giant catapult to strike their neighbours(i am not making this up), they have chemical weapons, they want to hit America.

Of course this is a bad exemple since its about Iraq but point is, if you strike out of the blue a country you're going to come out as a ****.

You make the threats clear to get the people to support you. We all live in a democracy, not in butt**** nowhere under the lead of some warlord.

[J-10]

As an proud American I find all these published news articles troubling. Our own government and media selling out our government's intelligence reports. On "China Military build up." and Iran, Syria, and North Korea on WMD."
Why can't the CIA and other agencies keep a lid on themselves.

Say we find a actual Nuclear Silo in Iran. Next you know its on the news. Then 48 days later theres a update on that very picture being a crapper. Wouldn't help if it were never mention?


Its a :-*$

"Our own government" need some excuse to get more and more money yearly from US taxpayer. :)

[INAT]

Two things, one transparency, second when you're the leader of a country actively seeking to put Iran in the crapper, you keep hammering your people with they have WMDs, they're building a giant catapult to strike their neighbours(i am not making this up), they have chemical weapons, they want to hit America.

Of course this is a bad exemple since its about Iraq but point is, if you strike out of the blue a country you're going to come out as a ****.

You make the threats clear to get the people to support you. We all live in a democracy, not in butt**** nowhere under the lead of some warlord.


Right there is a word for that and it is called propaganda.

[Ordie]

The majority of 'intelligence' gathered comes from journal articles, academic university papers, books, newspapers, coulumnists, media and simple observations. The majority comes from public sources accessible through the internet. Only 5% of intelligence gathered comes through spying.

It's the analyst's job to use this information to connect the dots and provide policy recommendations to the leaders. At this point in time there are several schools of thought about China. One only needs to visit a China section at a bookstore chain to see this wide spectrum.

On one end we have authors who advocates closer ties with China, on the other end we have China as a threat. Sadly, there are few if not, none of the books were written by Chinese authors. The English language academic books printed in China are difficult to follow and too detailed.

The CIA is much more than a spying agency. It's also an 'academic farmer' funding non-profit organizatrions for research on areas with little or no information. During college, I interned at one of these non-profit organizations promoting academic exchanges with the newly formed country of Kyghizstan. The goal was to sponsor graduate students on exchange with Kyghizstan. In turn the students are encouraged to become Central Asian experts. Over time, several of these students become academic professors writing countless of journal articles and books on Central Asia. Thus providing a resource of background information for anybody including the CIA.

My sole job at that time was to keep an environmental professor from Kyghizstan from getting into trouble at strip bars in San Francisco's North Beach. (He was Borat's twin brother).

[BadKarma26]

Why can't the CIA and other agencies keep a lid on themselves.






Three can keep a secret, if two are dead.

-Ben Franklin

[INAT]

The majority of 'intelligence' gathered comes from journal articles, academic university papers, books, newspapers, coulumnists, media and simple observations. The majority comes from public sources accessible through the internet. Only 5% of intelligence gathered comes through spying.

It's the analyst's job to use this information to connect the dots and provide policy recommendations to the leaders. At this point in time there are several schools of thought about China. One only needs to visit a China section at a bookstore chain to see this wide spectrum.

On one end we have authors who advocates closer ties with China, on the other end we have China as a threat. Sadly, there are few if not, none of the books were written by Chinese authors. The English language academic books printed in China are difficult to follow and too detailed.

The CIA is much more than a spying agency. It's also an 'academic farmer' funding non-profit organizatrions for research on areas with little or no information. During college, I interned at one of these non-profit organizations promoting academic exchanges with the newly formed country of Kyghizstan. The goal was to sponsor graduate students on exchange with Kyghizstan. In turn the students are encouraged to become Central Asian experts. Over time, several of these students become academic professors writing countless of journal articles and books on Central Asia. Thus providing a resource of background information for anybody including the CIA.

My sole job at that time was to keep an environmental professor from Kyghizstan from getting into trouble at strip bars in San Francisco's North Beach. (He was Borat's twin brother).

Interesting point.The sort of activities that previously belonged exclusively to the CIA's covert operations have, for the past few decades, been taken over by one of these NGOs that you mentioned the US Congress-funded NED(national endowment for democracy.This group more than most was featured in every color revolution and every enforced change of regime around the world for the last few decades.Their latest projects are
Myanmar,Tibet and Vojvodina.