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05-10-2008, 04:37 PM
Milosevic's ghost haunts Serbia as nationalists exploit anti-western feelings

BELGRADE, Serbia - Serbia is haunted anew by the ghost of Slobodan Milosevic.

Eight years after the late Serbian strongman was toppled in a popular revolt, and a little more than two years after his death while on UN trial for genocide and crimes against humanity, his former loyalists have never been closer to regaining power.

On the eve of Sunday's parliamentary elections, experts warned that nationalists who have tapped into widespread outrage over Kosovo's independence may ride an unprecedented wave of anti-western sentiment to victory.

"People here just can't shake the feeling that Europe isn't fair and just toward Serbia," Braca Grubacic, a prominent political analyst, said Saturday. "Serbia is not like it used to be, but the problems and the political agenda are the same as they were during the Milosevic era."

A pro-democracy movement ousted Milosevic in 2000, and the man who presided over the bloody 1990s breakup of Yugoslavia died in March 2006 in a prison cell in The Hague, Netherlands, where a UN tribunal was trying him for atrocities in the Balkans.

Milosevic is gone, but he's far from forgotten.

The ultranationalist Serbian Radical party, whose leader, Tomislav Nikolic, proudly proclaims himself even more of a hardliner than Milosevic was, clung to a slim lead heading into Sunday's vote.

Although President Boris Tadic's pro-western coalition was running a close second, potential kingmakers included nationalist Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica's conservative coalition and Milosevic's Socialists. One - or both - were expected to team up with the Radicals to form a new government with a ****ounced anti-western and pro-Russia stance.

"Our time has come. We have to get rid of the western stooges, who have brought us nothing good," said Radmila Mihajlovic, a 75-year-old Radical supporter and self-proclaimed former Milosevic follower.

Nikolic and Kostunica have capitalized on an acute sense of betrayal felt by many Serbs after Kosovo declared independence in February and gained formal recognition from the United States, Canada, Japan and key European powers.

Serbs see Kosovo as the heart of their ancient homeland and Serbian Orthodox faith, and their bitterness has nudged the country toward ultranationalists promising to restore bruised national pride.

The nationalists also have exploited disenchantment with 30 per cent unemployment, rising prices and corruption.

Under dictator Josip Broz Tito, who died in 1980, many Serbs had enough extra cash to travel the world. Today, most struggle mightily just to make ends meet on a monthly salary that averages about $690.

Tadic, who opposes Kosovo's independence but wants to steer Serbia toward the European Union, has received death threats. He also has been publicly denounced as a traitor for signing a pre-entry aid and trade pact with the EU, a deal that Kostunica and Nikolic contend amounts to blood money in exchange for giving up Kosovo.

Nikolic, meanwhile, has basked in a growing sense that his day has come.

Over the past five years, the Radicals have steadily gained power and influence in Serbia. In the last three elections, they won a majority in the 250-seat parliament, but were unable to govern without the support of Kostunica's bloc.

It remains unclear exactly what combination of parties will join forces to form a government, but a Kostunica-Nikolic alliance has become increasingly likely.

"It would be a nightmare for the West," said Grubacic, the political analyst. "But you have to integrate these Radical voters into the political system. If you want to get rid of Radicals and that mentality, you have to give them a chance to show they're bad."

Both Kostunica and Nikolic have said Serbia should shelve its proclaimed goal of joining the EU, and concentrate instead on establishing close political and economic ties with Russia.

Some Serbs are understandably skittish about the possibility that their country could revert to nationalist or even ultranationalist rule and slide deeper into instability and isolation.

"God help us if those Radicals come to power with the help of Kostunica," said Zorica Katanic, 22, an economics student.

"I could not live through that nightmare once again," he said.

But Charles Ingrao, a Balkans expert at Purdue University, insists the world shouldn't fear a reprise of Milosevic-style bloodshed.

"The days of Milosevic are gone," he said. "Serbia can no longer project power beyond its own borders like it did in the 1990s. I don't know what we're afraid of. Times have changed."

Source.... (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2008/05/10/5528771-ap.html)

KninGrad
05-10-2008, 08:35 PM
I just read the title and can tell u thats is a bull****. The reason why Nationalistic(patriotic) bloc is gaining more and more votes every election is because of living standards. In 8 years they didnt do anything and EU is just ****ing with them. They destroyed Serbian army, sold all Serb companies etc etc etc
Why the **** is that bad to be a nationalist I mean u are proud of that in USA. Serbs should be ashamed for defending Kosovo but americans must respect USA soldiers that were killing people in Vietnam.....where is the logic?

BW2
05-10-2008, 08:36 PM
Yawn... all this brouhaha if the nationalists win. Frankly I don't like the "Radical party" but I can't stomach the "Democrats" either, my ideal vision would be for Kostunica's Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) to win hands down and not have to enter a coalition with anyone. But alas people in Serbia are so indecisive and so disunited that I wouldn't hold my breath over it.

The common folk think with their hearts rather than their brains. On one side of the hand we have Tadic and his Democratic Party (DS) who's sole purpose is to get Serbia into the EU as fast as they can no matter what they do, pathetic really more like groveling idiots than democrats.... and on the other we have Nikolic and his Radical party (SRS) which despite the name is not a threat really to anyone, sure they advocate closer cooperation with Russia,China,India etc but for all the chest beating they do they are more talk than anything. Both share in common one thing, their ability to manipulate the masses with dumbed down words of Go EU! and SERBIA STRONG1111!!!

And then comes the thumb (most important part of the hand) The current Prime Minister of Serbia, Vojislav Kostunica who is the only real intellectual in the government, a law professor who in his has taken time from his study and practice of law to apply it in defending the country! By far the most and only consistent politician in the country who knows what he's doing and is both loved and hated for it.

Loved by Russia for his defiance to massive western pressure, for being a man of principle without fear and despised by some western officials because he is the only serious threat in their foreign policy. His intentions and actions are not only genuine and sincere but the most important for Serbia.

Come May 11th (tomorrow) I sincerely hope most Serbs will realize who has done the most good for Serbia and has its true interests in mind and vote for Kostunica, its most likely a coalition of (DSS/SRS) will be made which I don't mind but either way the Democrats don't have a chance really, their times up and they haven't delivered.

And all this Milosevic crap is getting really old and annoying. Dead, Buried, MOVE ON!

INAT
05-10-2008, 09:58 PM
Article is shyte.:roll::cantbeli:

"People here just can't shake the feeling that Europe isn't fair and just toward Serbia," hmm maybe that is because Europe isn't anything remotely "fair" or "just" if they were they would not have
backed every extreme ultra-nationalist group that had a point of contention with Srbija.The double standards are seen by anyone who
reads news.

Josip Broz
05-10-2008, 11:14 PM
Agreed, to pretty much all of it. Nothing is going to change. The Serbian people will continue to suffer and be bitter for another 10 years.

In the back of my mind, I grin at the idea of Serbia teetering towards Russia and if it turned into a great success for both countries. Not because I am pro-Russia, but because I think it would be great to see a real viable alternative to the mess that is the EU.



Yawn... all this brouhaha if the nationalists win. Frankly I don't like the "Radical party" but I can't stomach the "Democrats" either, my ideal vision would be for Kostunica's Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) to win hands down and not have to enter a coalition with anyone. But alas people in Serbia are so indecisive and so disunited that I wouldn't hold my breath over it.

The common folk think with their hearts rather than their brains. On one side of the hand we have Tadic and his Democratic Party (DS) who's sole purpose is to get Serbia into the EU as fast as they can no matter what they do, pathetic really more like groveling idiots than democrats.... and on the other we have Nikolic and his Radical party (SRS) which despite the name is not a threat really to anyone, sure they advocate closer cooperation with Russia,China,India etc but for all the chest beating they do they are more talk than anything. Both share in common one thing, their ability to manipulate the masses with dumbed down words of Go EU! and SERBIA STRONG1111!!!

And then comes the thumb (most important part of the hand) The current Prime Minister of Serbia, Vojislav Kostunica who is the only real intellectual in the government, a law professor who in his has taken time from his study and practice of law to apply it in defending the country! By far the most and only consistent politician in the country who knows what he's doing and is both loved and hated for it.

Loved by Russia for his defiance to massive western pressure, for being a man of principle without fear and despised by some western officials because he is the only serious threat in their foreign policy. His intentions and actions are not only genuine and sincere but the most important for Serbia.

Come May 11th (tomorrow) I sincerely hope most Serbs will realize who has done the most good for Serbia and has its true interests in mind and vote for Kostunica, its most likely a coalition of (DSS/SRS) will be made which I don't mind but either way the Democrats don't have a chance really, their times up and they haven't delivered.

And all this Milosevic crap is getting really old and annoying. Dead, Buried, MOVE ON!

Karaahmetoglu
05-11-2008, 01:08 AM
I just read the title and can tell u thats is a bull****. The reason why Nationalistic(patriotic) bloc is gaining more and more votes every election is because of living standards. In 8 years they didnt do anything and EU is just ****ing with them. They destroyed Serbian army, sold all Serb companies etc etc etc
Why the **** is that bad to be a nationalist I mean u are proud of that in USA. Serbs should be ashamed for defending Kosovo but americans must respect USA soldiers that were killing people in Vietnam.....where is the logic?


Wow couldn't agree with you even more. But anyway fact is fact unfortunately you guys had a past record and keeping a military in an unstable country is dangerous (mind you not as much as having Pakistan having Nuclear Weapons that might get stolen).

Hyde
05-11-2008, 05:35 AM
The Serbian people voted for Pro-Western Partys the last decade, in hope they would get closer to the EU and the EU would accept Serbia as a Partner and stop f***ing them whereever it can, but the West has done different and thus the people will ask themselves wheter they should keep running behind the West if the West doesnt really want them but is only trying to hold em out of the russian "sphere", so serbia is hanging lost in space between not being wanted by the west and not being able to get closer ties to russia because of the serbian will of getting closer to the west (but also keeping good relations with russia) and most importantly the ongoing "threats" (so to say, diplomaticly spoken but understood by everyone) by the west about getting closer to russia and thus being "anti-european", "anti-democratic", "against european integration" etc...

Afro-European
05-11-2008, 05:46 AM
Since Milosevic's fall in 2000,Serbia has been leaning toward the West, with zero result.So it's hard for them to keep running after the EU that helped steal their land(Kosovo)on one hand and trying to get it into their organization on the other hand.They are in a tough position i must admit.
Whoever will become the prime minister after this election has to manage to have good ties with both the West and Russia.Leaning toward one side only 'd be detrimental for Serbian development.

AN_TPS_63A
05-12-2008, 03:03 PM
I just read the title and can tell u thats is a bull****. The reason why Nationalistic(patriotic) bloc is gaining more and more votes every election is because of living standards.

Well, they lost some seats in parlament during latest election.