View Full Version : The Reconstituted Iraqi military equipment list
moughoun
05-30-2004, 02:23 PM
Security Forces 200,000
Tanks
M1A2 500
M60A3 750
APC
M2 500
LAV 500
M113 1500
MORTARS
81mm
M29 81-mm 400
107mm
M30 107-mm 100
120mm
M121 120-mm 100
Towed Artillery
105mm
M101/M102 100
155mm
M198 50
M114 50
Self-Propelled Artillery
105mm
M52 150
155mm
M109A6 110
203mm
M110 100
MRLS
M270 MLRS 50
RCL
M-67 90mm 100
M40 200
Utility vehicles
AMEV 100
M548 500
Anti tank weapons
M136 AT4 500
M47 Dragon 750
Attack Helicopters
AH-64 50
General-purpose Helicopters
S-70 15
UH-60 25
SA-365n 5
Bell 406c 15
Air Force
25, 000
Fixed wing
F-15 40
F-16 160
Naval Forces
FF-1040 Garcia 3
PC- 1 Cyclone 30
Anti mine 5
Service Craft 2
Air Defense
20mm
M163 PIVADS 100
30mm
AMX-30 50
SAM
MIM-104 Patriot 5
MIM-23 Hawk 10
M6 Linebacker 100
FIM-92A Stinger and Redeye missiles 500
MIM-72 Chaparral FAADS 10
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/iraq-corps1.htm
Bombtrack
05-30-2004, 02:32 PM
Good lord, that sounds really excessive. Give it to us instead.
ShadowNeo
05-30-2004, 02:35 PM
We're giving all that to Iraq? It does sound a tad excessive.
perdurabo
05-30-2004, 02:35 PM
so nothing made in UK or Poland (or other coalition countries) ?? we should leave yankees alone.
moughoun
05-30-2004, 02:36 PM
I think some of the number's maybe wrong, "PC- 1 Cyclone 30", are there even 30 cyclone class ship's?
moughoun
05-30-2004, 02:38 PM
Come to think of it I think this is bogus, f-15, f-16's!!
LordHalbert
05-30-2004, 02:38 PM
500 M1A2s !!!!!!!!
I hope these guys can be trusted !!
C'mon, that list is obviously fake.
No way is the USA *giving* 500 of the best MBT to any country !!!
Resevoir Hogs
05-30-2004, 03:07 PM
Giving?! No if you read the article then you'd know this is only a outline plan that hinges on if Iraqi oil production reaches normal levels to support such purchases.
Moledet
05-30-2004, 03:39 PM
200,000? That's all? Iraq had the biggest army in the middle east.
Dennis G
05-30-2004, 03:43 PM
Iraq does live in a tuff neighborhood; they should be given the ability to defend their county. I think they should stay with the soviet bloc weapons with a small mix of western.
Maverick77
05-30-2004, 03:44 PM
jesus christ that a lot of ****
just give them all old captured soviet **** with a few newer western weapons to give them a technological edge over guerilla fighters.
Kampfbaer
05-30-2004, 03:51 PM
I doubt, that it is wise to equip any arab country with advanced western weapon systems.
Think of the Iranian Revolution....
Next time you have to face them it will be much harder to be victorious.
M60 Tanks OK, but no M1, Leo2, Challenger2 or LeClerc.....
I would like to equip them with obsolete WP equipment from the new EU member states.
kinghk
05-30-2004, 04:03 PM
200,000? That's all? Iraq had the biggest army in the middle east.
Yeah it was huge, but it was quantity instead of quality.
_Samez_
05-30-2004, 04:07 PM
New Iraqi Army (NIA)
A professional Iraqi army is being created to replace Saddam’s army with a professional force for maintaining peace and stability. Initial US plans were for Iraq is to get a new army division numbering 12,000 troops within a year. The New Iraqi Army’s primary responsibilities would be for border protection, securing roads and installations, and clearing mines and unexploded bombs left over from the war. Only a small number of officers would be employed in the new army, as plans called for it to be much smaller than that of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's. The US administration in Iraq envisions the new army to be purely for defense and wholly separate from the civil police force unlike during the Hussein regime.
Units are to reflect Iraq’s religious, regional, and ethnic mix, be non-political, under law-based civilian control, and a force for defense and security—not aggression and oppression.
Plans called for the first division to a light infantry unit with an ultimate goal of three divisions, composed of 9 brigades of 27 battalions, with about 40,000 soldiers by the end of 2004. US General Paul Eaton, a former commander of the infantry school in the United States, would supervise training which will likely be contracted out to US firms. Recruiting began in early July 2003.
CPA Order Number 22, Creation of a New Iraqi Army, August 7, 2003, established a military force for the national self-defense of a future free Iraq. CPA Order Number 23, Creation of a Code of Military Discipline for the New Iraqi Army, August 7, 2003, established a system of discipline to maintain order in the New Iraqi Army.
In August 2003, a number of Statements of Work (SOW) articulated the equipment, equipment training, logistics support requirements, and maintenance requirements for the New Iraqi Army (NIA) and the Iraqi National Defense Force (INDF). Detailed information was provided for the Light Infantry Battalion sets. Site Set Up and Prep of initial Battalion Sets (Including Government Acceptance Procedures) except the “A” Group (1st BN), the offeror was required to submit prices including delivery and site preparation for user operation of equipment to Kirkush Military Training Base (KMTB), Iraq (Mercator Grid Reference System 38SNC 22027 30374), approximately 70 miles west of Baghdad, and close to the Iranian border.
This meant that all delivered items would be unwrapped, unpackaged, assembled, re-assembled, and otherwise placed in operational order while all packing items related to shipment would be assembled and moved to a refuse site identified by the point of contact for the Coalition Military Assistance Training Team (CMATT) at KMTB. All CLINS except for 0002 will be priced this way. An alternative pricing arrangement was not authorized for CLINS 0003 through 0010. Delivery and site preparation for Group B (2nd BN) was to be completed by 8 November 2003 at KMTB. There was no alternative pricing proposal arrangement for the “B through I” series CLINS.
The New Iraqi Army’s first battalion of some 700 soldiers graduated on 04 October 2003. The first army battalion had a bad start with about 300 members of the 700-strong force quitting over low salaries.
Excluded from New Iraqi Army include:
Former persons from regime security organizations
Intel organizations
Special Republican Guards
SSO
Ba’ath Party security and militia organizations
Top-level Ba’ath Party members
Former military officers of the rank of Lt Col and below were being accepted into the new organization with all other males between the age of 18–40 years and not listed on excluded list allowed to sign up at recruiting centers.
Recruitment Centers have been set up in Baghdad, Al Basrah, Mosul with an additional one at Irbil planned.
The first battalion trained by the CMATT graduated on 4 October 2003 and is based at Kirkuk. It was employed by the 4th Infantry Division Mechanized. The second battalion was employed by the 1st Armored Division, and has been garrisoned at Taji since its graduation on 6 January 2004. Following its graduation in late January 2004, the 3rd Battalion was deployed to the Mosul area.
The remaining 23 battalions will follow a course of action, where officers and non-commissioned officers will conduct separate courses. They then come together to form the battalion cadre, and will train their own soldiers are recruited and brought together en masse to the locations where the garrisons are set. This will be an Iraqi army trained by Iraqis.
As of 15 February 2004, more than 3,500 personnel had been recruited; nearly 2,000 were operational and over 1,700 were in training.
A groundbreaking ceremony for a new training base for the Iraqi Army took place in Kirkuk on April 29, 2004. The facility will accommodate an entire brigade of soldiers.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/nia.htm
500 M1A2 :roll:
Moledet
05-30-2004, 04:17 PM
500 M1A2s !!!!!!!!
I hope these guys can be trusted !!
C'mon, that list is obviously fake.
No way is the USA *giving* 500 of the best MBT to any country !!!
What chance do they have with 1250 tanks vs. 2,500 or so of other Arabian countries or vs. the 4,000 tanks of Israel?
And it's not the best in the world, it's one of the best. I don't think that you can say which tank is the best as long as the best tanks don't fight eachother.
usa320
05-30-2004, 04:36 PM
This obviously lists both IRaqi, Coalition and American units.
So far the only armor ive seen Iraqis using are various BMP's, BRDM's and the likes.
And I dont think Iraq will ever have F-16's...or AH-64's. I reckon they have a fleet of C-130's and UH-1's.
Jesus.... they are better armed then Canada!
_Samez_
05-30-2004, 04:44 PM
Jesus.... they are better armed then Canada!
Yes, and for example: Poland and a lot of other European countries :roll:
What chance do they have with 1250 tanks vs. 2,500 or so of other Arabian countries or vs. the 4,000 tanks of Israel?
And it's not the best in the world, it's one of the best. I don't think that you can say which tank is the best as long as the best tanks don't fight eachother.
added:
yhy... Poland have <1200 Tanks -- Russia >10000 and what?
usa320
05-30-2004, 04:45 PM
Jesus.... they are better armed then Canada!
So the hick down the street from me is better armed than Canada.
rofl
Moledet
05-30-2004, 04:56 PM
Jesus.... they are better armed then Canada!
Yes, and for example: Poland and a lot of other European countries :roll:
What chance do they have with 1250 tanks vs. 2,500 or so of other Arabian countries or vs. the 4,000 tanks of Israel?
And it's not the best in the world, it's one of the best. I don't think that you can say which tank is the best as long as the best tanks don't fight eachother.
added:
yhy... Poland have <1200 Tanks -- Russia >10000 and what?
English please, I can't understand the arrows lenguage.
radon
05-30-2004, 05:02 PM
If that list was true , how much of the stuff would rot in some storage area rofl
We're giving all that to Iraq? It does sound a tad excessive.
their oil is paying for it!
500 M1..? Is this a sort of a magic number? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Egypt has also about 550 pieces... with some 200 more ordered on the way.
Marmot1
05-30-2004, 05:56 PM
ALL this data is correct but this is only plan for their army and equipment will be from all around the world... US equipment is only listet for comparision so YOU can understand what class will be...
I.E. M1A2 meand modern MBT
M60 something older like T-72 or LEO 1
AH-64 means attack helicopter but it can be AH64 ,Tiger, or Mi-24...
F-16 meand multirole fighter/atack plane... could be F-16 could be Su-27 could be even something diferent
crazyman
05-30-2004, 06:11 PM
its really not all that much stuff if you think about it...3d ACR alone has 120 M1A2's...also, you'll notice a lot of the stuff listed is out-of-date for U.S. forces. probably selling 'em a lot of stuff out of old reserve stores, things like that. M60 tanks and a lot of the artillery listed are older then the majority of people on here by quite a bit, for example
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