summer attack, if u was the terrorists...

[iflu]

will al qaida attack athen? if they tried to make a summer attack...that would be an ideal target. although greece has spent 4X as much as last one on security.

[squeak]

It is believed that a attack could occur at anytime.
If a attack is launched on CONUS then it will most likely be a so called soft target. Examples are shopping malls, schools, Universitys etc.
Other things are a bit too secure, such as taking over airplanes. One thing though, AQ have some odd fascination with airplanes.

However it is far more easier to attack US interests abroad. Embassies have been past favourites, and the Brit Consulates, and with a few bombing and shootings in Saudi.

[big80a2]

Maybe the EuropaCup soccer championship in portugal??

[seruriermarshal]

I'm afraid , those sh*t will first attack U.S. .

[scm77]

Nobody is ever gonna do what AQ did on 9/11 again. Because no passengers are gonna let terrorists take over the plane. They are gonna start fighting back as soon as the Ali Babbas stand up. Those terrorists will then proceed to be beaten to hell in the up-right position.

Unless of course the terrorists bought every ticket. But I think an American Airlines flight 145 full of 200 ali babbas would draw some attention. ;)

[seruriermarshal]

Nobody is ever gonna do what AQ did on 9/11 again. Because no passengers are gonna let terrorists take over the plane. They are gonna start fighting back as soon as the Ali Babbas stand up. Those terrorists will then proceed to be beaten to hell in the up-right position.

Unless of course the terrorists bought every ticket. But I think an American Airlines flight 145 full of 200 ali babbas would draw some attention. ;)

France AirBus so larger , perhaps terrorists hope use them .

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Maybe the EuropaCup soccer championship in portugal??

europacup? rofl is that what the dutch call it? What's with "soccer" if it's european it's always football.

[seruriermarshal]

Maybe the EuropaCup soccer championship in portugal??

europacup? rofl is that what the dutch call it? What's with "soccer" if it's european it's always football.

???

[Khabbi]

The pilot "door" should always be locked , from take off to landing

And its not "soccer" its called football , only americans and canadians call it "soccer " . FOOTBALL !

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The pilot "door" should always be locked , from take off to landing

And its not "soccer" its called football , only americans and canadians call it "soccer " . FOOTBALL !

aussies call it soccer too because they have Aussie Rules Football

I'll stop going off topic now.

[scm77]

In Canada we also have Canadian Football, which is basically American football with a few different rules. It's nothing like European football though. Also, in Canada we don't call it "American Football, we just call it "football".
rofl rofl

[big80a2]

hehe oke it's football :lol:

in the Netherlands it's called: Voetbal

[catalyst]

if i was a terrorist.....to send the world into panic and show the inability to fight terrorism with force, then i would attack Athens.....Opening Ceremony would be prime....in front of the worlds cameras.

The games would fall into disarray and the results would be massive.

Mind you, it would piss off alot of people.....Kinda the plan but yeah thats wat i would be doing myself

not that i am a terrorist or nething

[scm77]

I think 3RAR is one of them. ;)

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if i was a terrorist.....to send the world into panic and show the inability to fight terrorism with force, then i would attack Athens.....Opening Ceremony would be prime....in front of the worlds cameras.

The games would fall into disarray and the results would be massive.

Mind you, it would piss off alot of people.....Kinda the plan but yeah thats wat i would be doing myself

not that i am a terrorist or nething

easier said then done, because the greeks are still building the stadium the terrorists have no idea how to get in get passed security etc..

the hidden genius of lethargy ;)

[Moledet]

Nuclear power plants.

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Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

[big80a2]

water pumps,
Tv stations when there is a big football match,
oiltankers in the harbor or in front of the coast,
major traffic highway junctions.... jams for day's

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water pumps,
Tv stations when there is a big football match,
oiltankers in the harbor or in front of the coast,
major traffic highway junctions.... jams for day's

oil tankers is most likely I think.

[duck]

AQ has method in their madness:
-Several smultaneous attacks
-High-profile targets
-Prefer to hit American and Israeli interests
-High casualty rates preferred
-Use of WMDs if possible

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AQ has method in their madness:
-Several smultaneous attacks
-High-profile targets
-Prefer to hit American and Israeli interests
-High casualty rates preferred
-Use of WMDs if possible

last one is speculation

also recently they have been trying to avoid muslim casualties

[big80a2]

water pumps,
Tv stations when there is a big football match,
oiltankers in the harbor or in front of the coast,
major traffic highway junctions.... jams for day's

oil tankers is most likely I think.

they tried something like that not to long ago....


well I think Osama doesn't have this nic calender with special summer terror sun burning and extreemly cold winter damage.... ;)
They just hit as planed anytime but mostly unexpected....

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mind you they blew up a french one no-one really cared about it, except when petrol prices went up

[big80a2]

mind you they blew up a french one no-one really cared about it, except when petrol prices went up

well if the oil drifted toward the Dutch coast I would care real big time!! ;)

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mind you they blew up a french one no-one really cared about it, except when petrol prices went up

well if the oil drifted toward the Dutch coast I would care real big time!! ;)

true but it is far harder then doing something like that off the coast of yemen rather then in the North Sea

[maw]

Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

not from aerial attack with a small plane loaded with 500lbs of anfo....

[maw]

if i was a terrorist.....to send the world into panic and show the inability to fight terrorism with force, then i would attack Athens.....Opening Ceremony would be prime....in front of the worlds cameras.

The games would fall into disarray and the results would be massive.

Mind you, it would piss off alot of people.....Kinda the plan but yeah thats wat i would be doing myself

not that i am a terrorist or nething

easier said then done, because the greeks are still building the stadium the terrorists have no idea how to get in get passed security etc..

the hidden genius of lethargy ;)

rofl :D

[usa320]

There are lots of potential targets, but i think we will see attacks in Europe and the middle east, not the US. Al Queda just doesnt have the reach anymore IMHO.

We will never see hijackings again, ever. Hundreds of passengers will no longer stand idly by while a few lightly armed nutjobs crash their plane.

It wont happen. I can tell you if i was on a plane that got hijacked i would kill the sons of bitches or die trying. Beause they are gonna kill me anyway...

[Moledet]

Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

not from aerial attack with a small plane loaded with 500lbs of anfo....
They don't have to use a small plane, the security in many european countries airports is very weak.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

There are lots of potential targets, but i think we will see attacks in Europe and the middle east, not the US. Al Queda just doesnt have the reach anymore IMHO.

We will never see hijackings again, ever. Hundreds of passengers will no longer stand idly by while a few lightly armed nutjobs crash their plane.

It wont happen. I can tell you if i was on a plane that got hijacked i would kill the sons of bitches or die trying. Beause they are gonna kill me anyway...
You think! If anything Al-Q have shown us that they do not follow trends or patterns, never assume.

[Saint]

Tim Hortins

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Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

not from aerial attack with a small plane loaded with 500lbs of anfo....
They don't have to use a small plane, the security in many european countries airports is very weak.

very weak compared to israeli ones but not compared to the ones that let the terrorists through in the states, if our airports were that weak then the IRA and ETA would have made use of it long ago.

[maw]

Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

not from aerial attack with a small plane loaded with 500lbs of anfo....
They don't have to use a small plane, the security in many european countries airports is very weak.

ok then. i large plane with 10,000lbs of anfo.
imho, moledet has highlighted one the most likely avenues for attack by a-q.

[Marmot1]

Amsterdam... will be next... (I know it since I am going there on friday ) ;)

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Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

not from aerial attack with a small plane loaded with 500lbs of anfo....
They don't have to use a small plane, the security in many european countries airports is very weak.

ok then. i large plane with 10,000lbs of anfo.
imho, moledet has highlighted one the most likely avenues for attack by a-q.

can you use anfo on its own, i thought it was used to exacerbate explosives.

[maw]

Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

not from aerial attack with a small plane loaded with 500lbs of anfo....
They don't have to use a small plane, the security in many european countries airports is very weak.

ok then. i large plane with 10,000lbs of anfo.
imho, moledet has highlighted one the most likely avenues for attack by a-q.

can you use anfo on its own, i thought it was used to exacerbate explosives.

you mean as a booster charge? negative, while anfo is commonly used in such a capacity, anfo can stand on it's own, it is used daily as a primary explosive in the mining industry. i only mentioned anfo because of it's availability. you only really need petn and rdx based explosives (7,000+ meters per second) to cut steel etc. anfo won't cut steel. but it will cause a concussive effect (refer to the oklahoma city bombing) certainly enough to leave a lasting impression on a containment dome.

[big80a2]

Amsterdam... will be next... (I know it since I am going there on friday ) ;)

holymenoly, you gonna attack Amsterdam, no way ;)

well oke only if you destroy all drugshops ;)

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Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

not from aerial attack with a small plane loaded with 500lbs of anfo....
They don't have to use a small plane, the security in many european countries airports is very weak.

ok then. i large plane with 10,000lbs of anfo.
imho, moledet has highlighted one the most likely avenues for attack by a-q.

can you use anfo on its own, i thought it was used to exacerbate explosives.

you mean as a booster charge? negative, while anfo is commonly used in such a capacity, anfo can stand on it's own, it is used daily as a primary explosive in the mining industry. i only mentioned anfo because of it's availability. you only really need petn and rdx based explosives (7,000+ meters per second) to cut steel etc. anfo won't cut steel. but it will cause a concussive effect (refer to the oklahoma city bombing) certainly enough to leave a lasting impression on a containment dome.

Sounds right, I spoke to a miner about it, but I remembered wrong, I have seen it used with dynamite, though... Is anfo made of diesel soaked foam or something like that?

[maw]

Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

not from aerial attack with a small plane loaded with 500lbs of anfo....
They don't have to use a small plane, the security in many european countries airports is very weak.

ok then. i large plane with 10,000lbs of anfo.
imho, moledet has highlighted one the most likely avenues for attack by a-q.

can you use anfo on its own, i thought it was used to exacerbate explosives.

you mean as a booster charge? negative, while anfo is commonly used in such a capacity, anfo can stand on it's own, it is used daily as a primary explosive in the mining industry. i only mentioned anfo because of it's availability. you only really need petn and rdx based explosives (7,000+ meters per second) to cut steel etc. anfo won't cut steel. but it will cause a concussive effect (refer to the oklahoma city bombing) certainly enough to leave a lasting impression on a containment dome.

Sounds right, I spoke to a miner about it, but I remembered wrong, I have seen it used with dynamite, though... Is anfo made of diesel soaked foam or something like that?

ammonium-nitrate-fuel-oil. sometimes the ammonium nitrate pellets come in a foam like goo. dupont provides it like this because the raw pellets are extremely hydroscopic (absorb moisture) and the foam helps to inhibit this. moisture is bad. also, a liquid form is better at filling in a bored out cavity (bore hole), therefore you'll get uniform density, which is desirable.
you can substitute the fuel oil for more potent hydro-carbons like rocket fuel/av gas (think hydrazine) and have a real eventful experience.
amm-ni is used as a building block in several modern explosives. rdx crystals are what make c3 and c4 such a rump shaker. i believe the most effective way to produce rdx by extracting it from agricultural grade amm-ni was developed by the germans during the war.

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doh... I know amonium nitrate.. shouold have put 2+2 together

[Midav]

summer attack, if u was the terrorists...

If I was one of the terrorists, I'd try this new tactic:

1. Go to terrorist compound.
2. Take stick of dynamite and light it up.
3. Stick dynamite up fellow jihadists asses.
4. Watch jihadists, errr, I mean infidels go boom.

Works every time. Guaranteed!

[ZeroPositive]

they will go for high profile buildings/cities.

If it is the UK probably London/Oxford or a sports match if possible.
London Underground would be a good target if it is a suicide mission there are a lot of Camera's but if they know what they are going the system is old and can be a death trap.

[Moledet]

Nuclear power plants.

nah too much security really, the ideal for terrorism would be bombing something that the maximum amount of people will see directly

not from aerial attack with a small plane loaded with 500lbs of anfo....
They don't have to use a small plane, the security in many european countries airports is very weak.

very weak compared to israeli ones but not compared to the ones that let the terrorists through in the states, if our airports were that weak then the IRA and ETA would have made use of it long ago.
I haven't said:"British airport security is weak", I mean countries like Holland, Denemark and France where the security didn't pass the tests many times.

[iflu]

Guys i put this thread because i noticed that there were 5 explosions in May in athen. its only 3 months left and still people could blow up sth 5 times within one month. And I guess AQ wont use airplanes anymore coz those SOBs want sth exciting which means that they would possibly use some methods new. ALso coz many us athletes as well as travelers will be in athen that makes athen an attractive target for terrorists. maybe so soft so valuable. it is also clever to claim that u will do sth here but in fact will do it there when u have not enough resources. anyway they got a lot of time to plan only ONE big thing, who knows how long they planed for 911 attack. they even could easily blow trains in spain months ago and the problem is who knows that it was not a rehersal for sth big. so we should be really careful.

[The Walrus]

If I were a terrorist I would strike at economic targets, more specifically Saudi Arabias oil facilities in order to cause economic catastrophe. Not only are those targets easier than those in the west with all their good intelligence services and all, but this would be far more damaging to the west than a suicide bomb in Athens.

[Fargin]

Denemark ... where the security didn't pass the tests many times.

Denmark would be a waste of terrorist efforts, Danish planes are perfectly capable of doing the crashing by them selves. p-)

[Sayeret]

If I were a terrorist, I would target hotels in Saudi Arabia housing mostly Westerners with suicide bombs in order to try to scare them off. If the SA government tried to arrest people from the cell I was in I would attack a lot of their government officials with suicide bombers in order to try to scare off the leader from any further attempt to arrest memebers of my cell. I would tell him that I would stop attacking the government if they stopped trying to kill me and if they stopped selling oil to the United States.

Then to make the situation more complicated I would send some terrorists to try to attack a United States embassy and send the planners and other people who helped carry out the attack back to Saudi Arabia. The CIA would probably find out about where the terrorists went back to after the bombing of the embassy. They would tell the government who would probably try to put pressure on the SA government. If SA tried then my cell would carry out a huge amount of attacks and would warn them that more would occur unless they called off their security forces. The SA government might not try to arrest my cell because they would be afraid of retaliation and this would put the United States in an awkard position. I would continue carrying out attacks against American political and economic targets in SA until the US might finally respond by going to war to SA, which a lot of the world would oppose since it gets oil from SA.

The only reason I could think that the terrorists would want to attack at the Athens Olympics is to show how much power they have and that even the best security in the world can't stop them. I doubt that the terrorists will carry out any attacks in Athens but I could be wrong, hopefully they won't.

[gbos]

I don’t think there is an AQ operational cell in Athens. Muslim immigrants here are very cooperative and report every suspected extremist to police. They don’t want to get a bad name; they just try to earn a living.