Anti-*** israel?

[black mamba]

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/20/***.israel.ap/index.html

This comes as a big surprise to me. Is this a widely held view in israel or is it just a small segment of the society getting their way?

on a related theme, i know that except for certain christian sects, pre-marital *** is no longer a taboo. for muslims, it still is. where do jews stand on this?

[Snoshi]

Did you read the article?

Authorities say "*** and the City" posters may offend residents in Jerusalm and Petah Tikva.

Forum Films, the Israeli distributor of the soon-to-be-released "*** and the City" movie, said advertising posters and billboards won't be hung in Jerusalem and Petah Tikva because residents there don't want the word "***" on display, said company spokesman Arye Barak.

Both cities have large religious populations.

The Israeli company that is handling outdoor advertising for the movie asked to have the word "***" removed from the posters because it would bother people in those cities, Barak said.

"We told them, the way you don't remove the word "Coca" from "Coca-Cola" and just leave "Cola," we can't do it in this case," he said. "It's ludicrous."

Ads for the movie, based on the popular TV series, were to go up elsewhere in Israel on Tuesday night, said an official at Maximedia, the outdoor ad company.

Alternative outdoor ads will not be hung in Jerusalem and Petah Tikva, though the movie is heavily advertised on TV, the Internet and in newspapers, Barak said.

The worldwide release of the movie is scheduled for May 29.

This isn't the first time movie advertisers have come under pressure from the religious. When the animated Disney movie "Tarzan" was released here, Tarzan's loincloth created an uproar among religious Jews who found it provocative, Barak said. The outdoor posters that were already hung were taken down so the cloth could be enlarged, he said.

Nor is this the first time that "*** and the City" has run afoul of Israeli religious sensibilities. Several years ago, a poster and billboard campaign showing star Sarah Jessica Parker in a skimpy, sequined dress was quickly pulled and replaced with new ads of her in a dress that covered her arms, back and thigh.

[black mamba]

what i meant was ..... how big is the religious community in israel?

is it significant?

also, any views on the second question?

[little icebear]

what i meant was ..... how big is the religious community in israel?


It´s not about how big they are - it´s about how anoying they can be. ;)

[Moledet]

what i meant was ..... how big is the religious community in israel?

is it significant?

also, any views on the second question?
They live in certain areas like Jerusalem, Bney Brak, etc...
Personally, the things I've seen in Israel in places like the Breakfast club, the Clinic, Dada and such I haven't seen anywhere else in the world and I doubt it exists anywhere else.

[Gulag]

Wow! Anything that is "anti-***" scares me! Still..better than "anti-booze"

[black mamba]

@Moledet

"Personally, the things I've seen in Israel in places like the Breakfast club, the Clinic, Dada and such I haven't seen anywhere else in the world and I doubt it exists anywhere else."

please elaborate......

so, that means that its not considered taboo in judaism if you are having pre-marital ***?

who does your avatar show?

[Moledet]

@Moledet
please elaborate......

so, that means that its not considered taboo in judaism if you are having pre-marital ***?

who does your avatar show?
Well, I prefer not to. Let's just say that you need to stand in a long line to the bathrooms and it's not because people need to pee or puke.

Judaism doesn't advocate pre-marital ***, though most people in Israel are secular so they couldn't care less.
The government itself isn't for or against it just like any democracy, since it knows it can't avoid it there are *** education classes at a young age (they go into *** and not just talks about puberty at about the age of 14).

Mahmoud Abu-Tir.

[mosh]

i'm from petah tikva and we've got billboards which are much more racy than those of *** and the city so i wonder why they focus on this and not on the posters of dosens of half naked models plastered all over the city?:roll:

ho, wait i do know! they want attention since they can "taste" the incoming elections and are afraid of losing seats, well it won't help you shas, you will lose seats and deservingly so!woot

[black mamba]

just read up on him on wikipedia.....why do you have him as your avatar, if you dont mind my asking

[Moledet]

just read up on him on wikipedia.....why do you have him as your avatar, if you dont mind my asking
There's a comedy show called Eretz Nehderet, they used to make fun of him in the show saying he organizes trance parties for Hamas. Why do I have him? Don't know, I changed to this avatar long ago and kept it.

[IDF_TANKER]

It's all very stupid, considering that *** and the City was aired at prime time on one of the two Israeli biggest channels.

[cbreedon]

Mosh

What does your avatar say? Don't tread on me in Hebrew? Do you have a bigger version of it?

[black mamba]

i have seen a decent number of jokes about jewish people not having *** before marriage. why is that? is it true that a lot of them dont have *** before marriage?

[IDF_TANKER]

i have seen a decent number of jokes about jewish people not having *** before marriage. why is that? is it true that a lot of them dont have *** before marriage?

"a lot of them"... Man, Israel is a secular western liberal democracy. There is a large religious community, which indeed restricts all this *** stuff. Judging Israel by this community is like judging all Americans by the Amish people.

[mosh]

Mosh

What does your avatar say? Don't tread on me in Hebrew?

yes



Do you have a bigger version of it?
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=153&pictureid=2296

[Moledet]

i have seen a decent number of jokes about jewish people not having *** before marriage. why is that? is it true that a lot of them dont have *** before marriage?
I guess it's because you live in Pakistan.
Orthodox Jews don't usually have *** before they are married, just like in every monotheistic religion the orthodox follow the rules and don't have pre-marital ***.
Secular Jews don't care much about these rules.

[mosh]

I guess it's because you live in Pakistan.
Orthodox Jews don't usually have *** before they are married, just like in every monotheistic religion the orthodox follow the rules and don't have pre-marital ***.
Secular Jews don't care much about these rules.

most jews in israel are orthodox you're talking about the ultra orthodox (haredi).

[Moledet]

most jews in israel are orthodox you're talking about the ultra orthodox (haredi).
Hmmm no, most are secular, there's a minority of Orthodox and Ultra Orthodox.

[Stan187]

most jews in israel are orthodox you're talking about the ultra orthodox (haredi).

You must be confused on what either orthodox or what most means.. then again maybe in Petah Tikva it is like that.

[Peris]

when it comes to this *** and city series i think it's the absolute lack of taste and devaluation of ***. Talking about naked lawyers who don't wipe their asses properly and leave dirty spots in the white sofa really advances the human mind:)

[mosh]

Hmmm no, most are secular, there's a minority of Orthodox and Ultra Orthodox.

secular is not a stream in Judaism. there are three of those -reform, Conservative and orthodox.

most jews in israel are orthodox in their affiliation even if they don't follow most of the religious laws (just like the affiliation of most french is catholic even if they're secular).

[black mamba]

@ Moledet

well, actually, pakistan has nothing to do with the jokes....hell, more than half of pakistan hasnt had ***....even i havent!....so, not too many jokes about that.

i see a lot of it in the western media .... especially in stand ups.

tell me something....why do orthodox(?) or conservative(?) jews wear black and white clothing? and hats? and keep beards? i know its probably a religious injunction but what's the history behind it and is it linked to Moses or David or Solomon or any other prophet?

[Snoshi]

tell me something....why do orthodox jews wear black and white clothing? and hats? and keep beards? i know its probably a religious injunction but what's the history behind it and is it linked to Moses or David or Solomon or any other prophet?

Now you are talking about ultra-orthodox(Haredi)

[Moledet]

@ Moledet

well, actually, pakistan has nothing to do with the jokes....hell, more than half of pakistan hasnt had ***....even i havent!....so, not too many jokes about that.

i see a lot of it in the western media .... especially in stand ups.

tell me something....why do orthodox(?) or conservative(?) jews wear black and white clothing? and hats? and keep beards? i know its probably a religious injunction but what's the history behind it and is it linked to Moses or David or Solomon or any other prophet?
Because that's the way they decided to dress like in Europe in the 18th or 19th century (don't remember). It's modest and respectable. In Arab countries Jewish rabbis used to dress much like the Mullahs and Imams dress. In Israel both decided to change a little from the European version and created the Israeli dress you see, but still spahardi rabbis wear that old Arabian dress.

As Snoshi mentioned, these are Ultra Orthodox. Orthodox Jews wear a yamulka and under their clothes you can't see but they wear a Talit, other than that they dress like everyone else but try to keep it modest.

[Snoshi]

Because that's the way they decided to dress like in Europe in the 18th or 19th century (don't remember). It's modest and respectable. In Arab countries Jewish rabbis used to dress much like the Mullahs and Imams dress. In Israel both decided to change a little from the European version and created the Israeli dress you see, but still spahardi rabbis wear that old Arabian dress.

As Snoshi mentioned, these are Ultra Orthodox. Orthodox Jews wear a yamulka and under their clothes you can't see but they wear a Talit.

Yep.. Shas founder Ovadia Yosef looks like Ayatollah and he was from Iraq AFAIK
http://www.ety.com/HRP/immages/ovadia_yosef.jpg

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Frankly, as far as I'm concerned the more areas ban this nauseating celebration of everything wrong with America, the better.

[little icebear]

Yep.. Shas founder Ovadia Yosef looks like Ayatollah...
http://www.ety.com/HRP/immages/ovadia_yosef.jpg

And he has the same charming personality as well... :D


Well, I prefer not to. Let's just say that you need to stand in a long line to the bathrooms and it's not because people need to pee or puke.


If they care to head for the toilet stalls before engaging in ****** intercourse, than those clubs aren´t that wild. ;)

[Snoshi]

And he has the same charming personality as well... :D

And so do many in hes idiotic party..
Quake caused by homos
Only sinners died in Holocaust
etc.

[deagle]

it isn't a matter of *** so much as promiscuity i think. aren't the girls from *** and the city sluts or someting ? like, don' t they sleep around in and out of relationships and stuff ??

[Snoshi]

Forum Films, the Israeli distributor of the soon-to-be-released "*** and the City" movie, said advertising posters and billboards won't be hung in Jerusalem and Petah Tikva because residents there don't want the word "***" on display, said company spokesman Arye Barak.
Haredim whining about "***".. Oh the irony. :)

[little icebear]

it isn't a matter of *** so much as promiscuity i think. aren't the girls from *** and the city sluts or someting ? like, don' t they sleep around in and out of relationships and stuff ??

Promiscuitive women equal sluts? Where are you from? Sudan? Utah?

[Mr.Flint]

I say it is nothing but an attempt to promote the stupid show once again as its popularity sagging...
Nothing attracts more viewers than a little "modesty" scandal...

[Bombtrack]

Google "Tel Aviv" and "Parade".

[GNR]

I know that except for certain christian sects, pre-marital *** is no longer a taboo

Certain Christian sects?
What Christian sect says it's okay?

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Promiscuitive women equal sluts? Where are you from? Sudan? Utah?

Well yes, actually.

slut, n
a. A person, especially a woman, considered ******ly promiscuous.
b. A woman prostitute.

I have no idea what audiences find appealing in these characters. It's kinda sad that the net result of the ****** revolution isn't men being held to the higher standard that women once demanded...but that women have sunk to the depths of what they detest in men. It's like a movie featuring 4 versions of Herb Tarlek.

[Military-G]

Heh^ Most tv is **** nowdays, I can't figure how Big Brother continues but it does :fork: I guess this **** entertains some folk.

[little icebear]

I used to like those depths of detastable male behaviour. But since my girlfried disapproves I changed my ways...

[kahn267]

Israel has too many koosiyot to be conservative

[Stan187]

secular is not a stream in Judaism. there are three of those -reform, Conservative and orthodox.

most jews in israel are orthodox in their affiliation even if they don't follow most of the religious laws (just like the affiliation of most french is catholic even if they're secular).

Most Jews in Israel are secular. That means they are not part of a religious stream, they identify with Jewish ethnicity and not with religion. The fact that they don't ride the train on shabbat because national companies have to follow orthodox decrees does not make people orthodox in their affiliation.

[cbreedon]

yes


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=153&pictureid=2296
Todah Rabah

BTW my wife is one of those who likes *** in the City... I don't mind her watching it as I get benefit from it afterwardswoot

[Eztyga]

Well, I prefer not to. Let's just say that you need to stand in a long line to the bathrooms and it's not because people need to pee or puke.


Thats because you live in such a wee tiny country and have no other place else to do it except in a sh#thouse cubicle...

Ezy

[The Dane]

Ha... Just read that Sweden are going to sell *****s and other sextoys from their phamachys.
So israelies(the religious ones) shouldn't get headaches when visiting Sweden.
-"I would like a package of asprins, please." - " Of course sir, but if you buy 2 we will through in a free butt plug!"... :)

[Moledet]

Thats because you live in such a wee tiny country and have no other place else to do it except in a sh#thouse cubicle...

Ezy
It has to do with having *** with more than one partner in the same night. Places like the Breakfast open at 5am on Saturday so that after you've gone through some clubs you go there last and since it's a cellar it's still dark there (it always is).

[mosh]

Most Jews in Israel are secular. That means they are not part of a religious stream, they identify with Jewish ethnicity and not with religion. The fact that they don't ride the train on shabbat because national companies have to follow orthodox decrees does not make people orthodox in their affiliation.

almost every 13 year old jewish boy in israel has a bar mitzva in an orthodox synagogue even though there are conservetive and reform ones in israel, and almost every jewish couple marries in an orthodox wedding even though they can take a short trip to cyprus and a have a civilian wedding.
the few other religious obligations isarelis uphold are done according to the orthodox way.

so most israelis are orthodox in their affiliation even if they are not at all devout just like turks are Sunni in their affiliation even if they are not at all devout.

[Kaplanr]

almost every 13 year old jewish boy in israel has a bar mitzva in an orthodox synagogue even though there are conservetive and reform ones in israel, and almost every jewish couple marries in an orthodox wedding even though they can take a short trip to cyprus and a have a civilian wedding.
the few other religious obligations isarelis uphold are done according to the orthodox way.

so most israelis are orthodox in their affiliation even if they are not at all devout just like turks are Sunni in their affiliation even if they are not at all devout.

No, that's called a monopoly. If you believe what you're writing then you're either naive or out of touch with reality. As an example; there are two Reform kibbutzim in the Arava and a Reform Mitzpe in the Galilee. When they have weddings, it's the Rabbi from Eilat who presides (just like he does at Kibbutz Ketura, Grofit, Yotvata and the others), or whoever is near Carmiel, because that's who the state recognizes as the presiding authority. The comment about 3 streams of Judaism is almost ridiculous in the Israeli context; it's a diaspora reality. With all due respect to both the Reform and Conservative movements in Israel, they haven't been successful in shedding their diaspora image. As for labels, I'm sick of them. Better an ethical shmutznik who eats bacon than the Rebbe Yosef and his pack of SHAS goniffs (thieves in Yiddish)

Go to Cyprus because it's nearby to get married, absurd.

[Mr.Flint]

Kaplanar you shouldnt bother answering him, because he is a) banned b) has no friggin clue.

I, my brother, all of my former classmates, all of my brother's former classmates had a Bar Mitzva in "conservative" synagogues, so mosh obviously talks out of his ass.


Better an ethical shmutznik who eats bacon than the Rebbe Yosef and his pack of SHAS goniffs (thieves in Yiddish)
x2

[Eztyga]

It has to do with having *** with more than one partner in the same night. Places like the Breakfast open at 5am on Saturday so that after you've gone through some clubs you go there last and since it's a cellar it's still dark there (it always is).

If you think that this only happens in Israel then you need to get out more. I could take you to places like this in Sydney.

...except I would probably get done for attempting to have *** with a minor, even if I wasn't trying too. :cantbeli:

Ezy