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LaoSexMachine
05-22-2008, 10:42 PM
Saudi maid verdict 'outrageous'
Human Rights Watch has called on Saudi judges to overturn a decision to drop charges against a Saudi couple accused of severely abusing an Indonesian maid.
A judge in Riyadh awarded $670 damages to the maid, Nour Miyati, but dropped all charges against her employers.
The female employer, who admitted the abuse and was originally sentenced to 35 lashes, had her sentence overturned.
Human Rights Watch said the ruling on Monday was "outrageous", and sent "a dangerous message" to Saudi employers.
Ms Miyati, 25, contracted gangrene after allegedly being tied up for a month and left without food in 2005. She had to have several fingers and toes amputated.
New York-based Human Rights Watch called for an appeals court to "impose stiff penalties on the employers, including imprisonment, and payment of significant financial compensation".
Saudi officials have not commented on the report.
'Impunity'
Human Rights Watch says Ms Miyati was treated in a Riyadh hospital in March 2005 for gangrene, malnourishment and other injuries.
All charges against Ms Miyati's male employer were dropped early in the investigation, Human Rights Watch says.
On Monday a Riyadh judge found the female employer not guilty, despite her earlier admission and "compelling physical evidence", the group says.
A prior Saudi judgement, subsequently overturned, had seen Ms Miyati convicted of falsely accusing her employers and sentenced to 79 lashes.
Human Rights Watch said the latest ruling "sends a dangerous message to Saudi employers that they can beat domestic workers with impunity and that victims have little hope of justice".
Rights organisations say many foreign domestic maids in Saudi Arabia work in harsh circumstances and often suffer abuse by their employers.
The Saudi Labour Ministry has acknowledged some problems, but the government also says foreign workers' rights are protected under Islamic law.




Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/7415290.stm

gobdav
05-22-2008, 11:36 PM
Score another one for the idiots of....well, nevermind.....can't say it here.

2Sheds_Jackson
05-22-2008, 11:46 PM
ER...am I the only one who finds this kind of funny, in a sick way? Here is Human Rights Watch - champion of human dignity and individual freedoms...insisting that another human being be flogged.

rofl

Of course if they're to be consistent, as soon as the sentence is carried out, they have to turn around and accuse he Saudis of torture. They should just quit while they're ahead - issue a position statement that says "Saudi Arabia Just Plain Sucks!" and give up.

Warlord
05-23-2008, 01:38 AM
ER...am I the only one who finds this kind of funny, in a sick way? Here is Human Rights Watch - champion of human dignity and individual freedoms...insisting that another human being be flogged.

rofl

Of course if they're to be consistent, as soon as the sentence is carried out, they have to turn around and accuse he Saudis of torture. They should just quit while they're ahead - issue a position statement that says Saudi Arabia Just Plain Sucks!" and give up.

Well you have to consider that it is a law here in Saudi Arabia to be flogged for "such and such" offense and a Saudi citizen shouldn't be treated any different just because the victim was a lowly maid from Indonesia.

The few Saudis who do abuse their workers do in the most horrible way imaginable. The most vulnerable among these group of workers are maids.

Calanen
05-23-2008, 01:43 AM
ER...am I the only one who finds this kind of funny, in a sick way? Here is Human Rights Watch - champion of human dignity and individual freedoms...insisting that another human being be flogged.

rofl

Of course if they're to be consistent, as soon as the sentence is carried out, they have to turn around and accuse he Saudis of torture. They should just quit while they're ahead - issue a position statement that says "Saudi Arabia Just Plain Sucks!" and give up.

What's more amusing is that the Arab League recently signed a Human Rights Treaty. It says that they are committed to the destruction of Zionism as one of its aims.

2Sheds_Jackson
05-23-2008, 09:24 AM
Well you have to consider that it is a law here in Saudi Arabia to be flogged for "such and such" offense and a Saudi citizen shouldn't be treated any different just because the victim was a lowly maid from Indonesia.


I don't really disagree with you - I just think it's ironic that Human Rights Watch is effectively demanding something that they'd otherwise oppose. If the US decided to flog guys at Gitmo in order to serve justice, no doubt HRW would go completely ballistic and state that it was unacceptable no matter the justification.

sexyhamburger
05-23-2008, 10:12 AM
Screw it. I'm going to stop reading this stuff 'cause it makes me angry and honestly, I can't care anymore. Using kids as suicide bombers, lashing a rape victim for being raped, decapitating little boys in supermarkets because someone got into an argument with his mom. All this and no one is doing anything about it. It just boggles the mind to be completely honest.

gobdav
05-23-2008, 10:15 AM
Screw it. I'm going to stop reading this stuff 'cause it makes me angry and honestly, I can't care anymore. Using kids as suicide bombers, lashing a rape victim for being raped, decapitating little boys in supermarkets because someone got into an argument with his mom. All this and no one is doing anything about it. It just boggles the mind to be completely honest.


Don't forget not letting a group of girls out of a burning building because they weren't covered properly, thus killing them.

Laworkerbee
05-23-2008, 12:45 PM
The Saudi Labour Ministry has acknowledged some problems, but the government also says foreign workers' rights are abused with impunity under Islamic law.

Fixed...............

STIG
05-23-2008, 12:51 PM
I was talking to my Indonesian friend about this yesterday. Apparently a lot of Indonesian women work as maids in SA. They come from really poor families and will endure all kinds of crazy **** just so their family back home can have two meals a day. ****ing barbarians.

Warlord
05-23-2008, 12:58 PM
I don't really disagree with you - I just think it's ironic that Human Rights Watch is effectively demanding something that they'd otherwise oppose. If the US decided to flog guys at Gitmo in order to serve justice, no doubt HRW would go completely ballistic and state that it was unacceptable no matter the justification.

Neither do I disagree with you. But the Saudis did write their laws or rather followed what's said in the Shari'ah. Then they should follow it no matter the social status of the offender. FYI, different degrees of punishments are metted out to infidels such as I. If I raped a Muslim woman, I'd be executed. If the Saudi raped a non-Muslim woman, the punishment would not be as bad if he had raped a Muslim woman.

gobdav
05-23-2008, 01:04 PM
If the Saudi raped a non-Muslim woman, the punishment would not be as bad if he had raped a Muslim woman.


Yeah, if the saudi raped a Muslim woman, the woman would be the one flogged or, as they did in Iran, hanged.

Laworkerbee
05-23-2008, 01:09 PM
If the Saudi raped a non-Muslim woman, the punishment would not be as bad if he had raped a Muslim woman.

Lets not forget that multiple male witnesses need to testify about the rape since a woman (especially a Kuffar) is not equal in the courtroom under sharia.

ed316
05-23-2008, 01:25 PM
Fvcking disgusting!!! You can keep your Sharia.

gobdav
05-23-2008, 02:53 PM
Fvcking disgusting!!! You can keep your Sharia.


I sharia'd in a blown-up Iraqi tank once....

deagle
05-24-2008, 04:12 PM
thats dispicable. employers of foreign workers have been keeping a keen eye. now that they know they can basically get away with such actions, it puts ppl at risk.

One?
05-24-2008, 06:27 PM
Actually according to sharia law the employers should be punished for their crime. They have tortured and abused a human being.

But then again Saudis are always free to do what they want....thats the sad part.