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Lov3ll
05-23-2008, 06:08 AM
How Israeli fighter pilots threatened to blast Tony Blair’s jet out of sky

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00313/blair2-385_313745a.jpg
Tony Blair had been travelling to a Palestinian regeneration conference in Bethlehem

Tony Blair came within moments of being killed when two Israeli fighter aircraft threatened to shoot down a private jet taking him to a Middle East conference in the belief that it might have been staging a terrorist attack.
The warplanes were scrambled to intercept after the jet pilot failed to contact air traffic control. Mr Blair, the international community’s envoy to the Middle East, was flying from the World Economic Forum (WEF) summit in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh to attend a major conference on private investment in the Palestinian city of Bethlehem.
The Israeli aircraft used to intercept Mr Blair’s plane would have been versions of the F16 or F15, armed with Shafrir and Python air-to-air missiles. Both missiles have proved to be devastatingly effective and versatile. The Shafrir 2 missile shot down nearly 100 aircraft in the 1973 Arab-Israeli war.
Air traffic controllers spotted a suspicious aircraft heading into Israeli airspace from the Sinai peninsula on Monday and made several attempts to establish contact. When the pilot failed to respond to their urgent requests, the Israelis scrambled two fighters to intercept what they feared could have been a terrorist attacker.

The fighters flew above Mr Blair’s civilian aircraft to indicate to the pilot that he was considered a suspect target, at which point he finally made contact. The pilot told them that he was carrying Mr Blair.
During the entire incident, Mr Blair — flying with other delegates from the WEF, who were also attending the Bethlehem conference — was not informed of the situation by the pilot.
“They were unaware of it while they were on the plane,” Ruti Winterstein, spokeswoman for Mr Blair’s office in Israel, said. “They didn’t hear about it until afterwards, from the media.”
An Israeli army spokeswoman said the military would not comment on the incident, but another security source said the manoeuvre was standard procedure in such circumstances.
Israeli forces have been on high alert for threats from the Sinai region since Hamas knocked down a wall on the Egyptian border five months ago and had free access in and out of the besieged Gaza Strip for a week. It is also an area where terrorists linked to al-Qaeda have carried out bomb attacks on hotels in recent years.

Initial investigations into the events indicated a technical malfunction was to blame for the breakdown in communication, the Israeli newspaper Maariv said, adding that new systems had been set up in recent months to identify suspicious aircraft. Israeli fighters have been scrambled on several occasions to intercept potential attackers.
The conference in Bethlehem aimed to attract up to £1 billion in capital to jump-start the Palestinian economy, the main focus of Mr Blair’s mission in the region. More than 2,000 delegates and would-be investors attended the conference, which many welcomed as a positive first step towards creating a viable Palestinian state.
But as the West Bank looked hopefully towards renewed economic growth, Gaza, which is run by Hamas and which has in effect been under an Israeli blockade for almost a year, was again stricken by bloodshed.
A Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up in a lorry packed with four tonnes of explosives near an Israeli crossing point, but failed to kill anyone except himself.
The explosion was claimed by the fanatical group Islamic Jihad and the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
Hours later, at another crossing point, Israeli soldiers opened fire on a crowd of Hamas demonstrators who were protesting at the prolonged closure of the borders. One person was killed and ten wounded. An Israeli army spokesman said the soldiers had fired on armed men in the crowd.
Mr Blair, meanwhile, was heading back to London on a scheduled flight, his office said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3987705.ece

They should have shot first asked questions later p-)

Snoshi
05-23-2008, 06:12 AM
I am quite sure that Shafrir wasent used..

pacifist
05-23-2008, 06:30 AM
They should have shot first asked questions later p-)

You would've been cool with it?

IsraDani
05-23-2008, 06:43 AM
what a mess if he actually shot down blair
maybe we would had a chanche to see the HMS Ark Royal in the Haifa bay and some Chally in Dizengoff street.

BugHunt
05-23-2008, 07:05 AM
Sidewinders FTW! ;)


Wouldve been one incident where id have supported IDF stonewallings and "there was no incident!" / "who me?" / "ok we were there but..." during there enquires.........

Billy No Mates
05-23-2008, 07:13 AM
what a mess if he actually shot down blair
maybe we would had a chanche to see the HMS Ark Royal in the Haifa bay and some Chally in Dizengoff street.

I doubt it,we probably would of settled for sending you a sternly worded note .

BugHunt
05-23-2008, 07:48 AM
Brown wouldve sent bubbly! :D

Moledet
05-23-2008, 08:02 AM
Such a sensational headline for a mistake of Blair's pilot, makes you wonder (or not) what headlines we get for our own mistakes.

a_very_ex_STAB
05-23-2008, 10:35 AM
Just for once I wish someone would have followed the shoot first and ask questions later policy. It's just a shame it would have been a quick death.

Everytime I see Bliar's smug face on the TV I want to kick his fcuking head in.

IDF_TANKER
05-23-2008, 11:10 AM
Such a sensational headline for a mistake of Blair's pilot, makes you wonder (or not) what headlines we get for our own mistakes.

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It actually makes me very angry. The issue here is clearly the Blair's pilot mistake and not IAF response which was absolutely adequate. A person who read only the headline automatically gets an impression that the issue is IDF was doing something stupid and dangerous.

a_very_ex_STAB
05-23-2008, 11:11 AM
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It actually makes me very angry. The issue here is clearly the Blair's pilot mistake and not IAF response which was absolutely adequate. A person who read only the headline automatically gets an impression that the issue is IDF was doing something stupid and dangerous.

This report is all about Blair trying to make himself look 'heroic' in some way.

What you have to remember about Blair is that 'It's all about Tone!'

frenchy
05-23-2008, 11:40 AM
If you understand french, just a little joke.

Le pilote de blair est un "blaireau". rofl

kahn267
05-23-2008, 12:05 PM
Private Jet for terrorist attack after concerns from breaking the wall into Sinai ------strange connection and what an expensive upgrade from the usual home made rockets if it really was.

Cedan
05-23-2008, 12:24 PM
Private Jet for terrorist attack after concerns from breaking the wall into Sinai ------strange connection and what an expensive upgrade from the usual home made rockets if it really was.

well, you never know what jihadis are gonna do next...

Billy No Mates
05-23-2008, 01:05 PM
well, you never know what jihadis are gonna do next...

There is no way they would steal a jet they're such honest joes that they will only crash aircraft they have bought a ticket for .

Billy No Mates
05-23-2008, 01:07 PM
This report is all about Blair trying to make himself look 'heroic' in some way.

What you have to remember about Blair is that 'It's all about Tone!'

Yes his daring deeds in search of world peace will surely prove to be an inspiration to us all.....

nemowork
05-23-2008, 01:09 PM
Your lucky you didnt shoot, the wicked witch would have been on the phone for big compensation before the first piece hit the water!

(all major currencies accepted, and if you've go a nice villa at Eilat to put her up during the legal battles i'm sure she wouldn't complain)

Zeev
05-23-2008, 07:10 PM
If you understand french, just a little joke.

Le pilote de blair est un "blaireau". rofl

surtout un incompétent..

Power_serj
05-24-2008, 01:35 PM
This is news? Seems like standard operating procedures for the Israelis to protect their airspace. Seems like a pilot (Blair's pilot) error. Not news worthy.

Connaught Ranger
05-24-2008, 02:20 PM
Blair plane sparks security scare.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080523/tuk-blair-plane-sparks-security-scare-6323e80_2.html

Press Assoc. - Friday, May 23 07:02 am Israeli (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/fc/israel.html) fighter aircraft (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/fc/airlines.html) were scrambled to intercept a jet carrying former Prime Minister Tony Blair (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/fc/tony-blair.html) after it failed to identify itself as a friendly aircraft.
It was only after the two warplanes had taken up an attack position that his aircrew used the radio to explain who they were and who they had on board.

Mr Blair (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/fc/tony-blair.html), who has served for 11 months as Middle East (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/middleeast.html) envoy for The Quartet, was en route to Israel (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/fc/israel.html) from a World Economic Forum meeting at Sharm El Sheikh in neighbouring Egypt on Wednesday morning.


After the aircrew accounted for themselves the intercepting aircraft peeled off and returned to base.


A spokesman for Mr Blair said: "Mr Blair was one of a number of delegates on a flight back from the World Economic Forum in Sharm El Sheikh.


"We were not aware of any problem at the time, and have not been notified of any issue with the flight."


Israel has one of the most stringent air defence systems in the world and warplanes are often scrambled for false alarms.

Connaught Ranger.The jet was not under Tony Blair's control during the incident, or even owned by him, I believe he was just a passenger.:roll:

The Israeli response was standard operating procedure, and I very much doubt the Israeli pilot was issuing any "threats".

deagle
05-24-2008, 04:10 PM
i honestly don't think Israel didn't know an international VIP wasn't going to be in the air, and they prob called to make sure. or the pilot didn't notifiy IDF airforce b/c they thought they were expected. i highly doubt Israel pre-emptively thought it was a possible attack , and just scrambled jets to investigate/confirm/make sure. if it had been a terrorist plot, it wouldve been dealt with. isreael isn't that stupid (at least i hope not).

throwback
05-24-2008, 06:08 PM
Same story as on the Gatwick airport train; claimed he didn't have money for the fare.