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ZeroZen
05-24-2008, 09:57 AM
In Soiviet EA, Command & Conquer eats your money...
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/fxFDoumbQv4

http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Allies/RA3_Concept_AlliedPrecBom.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Soviets/RA3_Soviet_Conscript.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Soviets/RA3_Soviet_Dreadnaught.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Soviets/RA3_Soviet_AkulaSub.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Soviets/RA3_Soviet_NavalBattle.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Soviets/RA3_Soviet_TeslaTrooper.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Empire%20of%20the%20Rising%20Sun/RA3_EoRS_Sea-Wing.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Empire%20of%20the%20Rising%20Sun/RA3_EoRS_TsunamiTank.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Allies/RA3_Concept_AlliedDrone.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Allies/RA3_Concept_AlliedChrono.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Soviets/RA3_Soviet_IronCurtain.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Soviets/RA3_Soviet_Natasha.jpg

Shocking...new faction
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Screenshots/RedAlert3_screen10.jpg
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Screenshots/RedAlert3_screen8.jpg

Zoomie
05-24-2008, 09:59 AM
But in Soviet Russia, do they teach you to post in the right section? p-)

ZeroZen
05-24-2008, 10:01 AM
oh my bad....mod pls transfer this on "off topic"
lol

ltrowley
05-24-2008, 12:04 PM
Looks good, hope its better than the last c&c, that looked pretty but decended into rock-paper-scissors gameplay very quickly.

Hippo
05-24-2008, 12:08 PM
Watching the gameplay video I cant help but wonder if all the effects (explosions, BLOOM, etc) will wash out units and make it that much harder to control. And I hope EA doesnt **** this one up like theyve done in the past


but im liking the russian tanya for her...dragunov

Snoshi
05-24-2008, 12:24 PM
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Soviets/RA3_Soviet_Natasha.jpg
Oh yes, the standard issue of the Soviet Sniper.

Morboute
05-24-2008, 01:30 PM
...and i already lost all intrest of the game.. :|

packetloss
05-24-2008, 01:37 PM
Like every other good game company and franchise, EA has ruined westwood/c&c series.

Kap
05-24-2008, 01:38 PM
Like every other good game company and franchise, EA has ruined westwood/c&c series.

Yeap, I loved C&C when Westwood was still making it. :)

But now it has really turned into shizz...

Sousuke
05-24-2008, 01:48 PM
Agreed...i just hope that they do a decent job on this one dough...

Fade
05-24-2008, 01:55 PM
As others have mentioned EA has a habit of shytting up everything they touch. It looks nice too, but flashy graphics do not always make for decent gameplay. I'll still give it a try though :)

Shadowstorm
05-24-2008, 05:45 PM
I can't wait to this game, but I hope EA improve on this game though.

BloodyTalon
05-24-2008, 05:48 PM
Well its certainly looks good, i just hope they can add some new stuff to the gameplay to make it more interesting C&C3 was kinda stale after a while. They also need to hire Frank Klepacki (the guy who did the music for the Westwood-era C&C games) to create the music. No exceptions.

Also, are there any concept art or in-game pics of the Soviet bear cavalry?

IraGlacialis
05-24-2008, 05:51 PM
I think the idea of making Japan the third faction will be interesting.
Seeing that they have mechs as land units, I wonder if their equivilent to the dolphin and giant squid would be Godzilla.

BugHunt
05-24-2008, 05:55 PM
http://www.megatonnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/eatributeeaglewall4.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2043/thlolhayp9.gif

EA = the 4th German Trimester of game making.....

Shadowstorm
05-24-2008, 06:04 PM
http://images.ea.com/games/redalert3/Artwork/Allies/RA3_Concept_AlliedPrecBom.jpg
This picture looks like a old Lockheed Mach 5 reconnaissance plane proposal back in the 1980's.

ocean
05-24-2008, 07:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/7BJsxThahqE&hl=en

Messiah UKF
05-24-2008, 07:17 PM
looks awful... looks like the sordid love child of the settlers and warhammer series in a technicolour dream coat.

Red Alert has never been surpassed. Red Alert 2 was vaguely palatable, but this just looks awful, really awful. Mechanised walkers? WTF? That belong in the original tiberium C&C.

Just seems like EA ignored the entire premise of the Red Alert story.

Sousuke
05-24-2008, 07:34 PM
looks awful... looks like the sordid love child of the settlers and warhammer series in a technicolour dream coat.

Red Alert has never been surpassed. Red Alert 2 was vaguely palatable, but this just looks awful, really awful. Mechanised walkers? WTF? That belong in the original tiberium C&C.

Just seems like EA ignored the entire premise of the Red Alert story.
Ra2 "vaguely palatable", dude Ra2 is the king of the whole C&C franchise p-) And just for the record, walker units were planed for the original game ;)

Shadowstorm
05-24-2008, 08:30 PM
looks awful... looks like the sordid love child of the settlers and warhammer series in a technicolour dream coat.

Red Alert has never been surpassed. Red Alert 2 was vaguely palatable, but this just looks awful, really awful. Mechanised walkers? WTF? That belong in the original tiberium C&C.

Just seems like EA ignored the entire premise of the Red Alert story.
Will Japan uses futuristic weaponry and vehicles in this game. So that's why you see Japan using mechs and EA stated that in there RA3 website.

http://www.ea.com/redalert/factions.jsp

Bulletproof
05-24-2008, 09:33 PM
This is horrible, Red Alert is way better than that. I wouldm't mind a remake of the first RA.

Shadowstorm
05-24-2008, 09:51 PM
Right now it's in the alpha stage. So there going to improving this game.

Messiah UKF
05-25-2008, 04:34 AM
Ra2 "vaguely palatable", dude Ra2 is the king of the whole C&C franchise p-) And just for the record, walker units were planed for the original game ;)

RA2 was mediocre at best. Granted there were some additions that I enjoyed and were well thought out, but I've still not found any of the C&C series that rival the Red Alert original.

And they may have planned walker units for the original game, but they never made it. In my mind, having played the C&C series to death, they are the staple of the Tiberium wars. If they were planned in the original RA, why didn't they then make it to RA2?

I'll probably still buy RA3 and see what it's like, but with EA's money making touch, I just worry thats its going to be the horrific love child I described above.

Doublethinker
05-25-2008, 05:51 AM
Ra2 "vaguely palatable", dude Ra2 is the king of the whole C&C franchise p-) And just for the record, walker units were planed for the original game ;)

RA2 was complete crap. All these zeppelins with evil faces, heir of Russian monarchy (Romanov) as chairman of the Soviet party...

RA was interesting, playable and believable (despite Stalin made look like a comical figure from time to time), RA2 was extremely childish.

NimDod
05-25-2008, 06:05 AM
RA2 was mediocre at best. Granted there were some additions that I enjoyed and were well thought out, but I've still not found any of the C&C series that rival the Red Alert original.

I think RA2 was the best game in the C&C world.
best Cinematics (except for the chick that "played" Tanya), best music and best overall gameplay.

Did you play Yuri's revenge?

Snoshi
05-25-2008, 06:11 AM
I think RA2 was the best game in the C&C world.
best Cinematics (except for the chick that "played" Tanya), best music and best overall gameplay.

Did you play Yuri's revenge?

I agree....

RA2 was complete crap. All these zeppelins with evil faces, heir of Russian monarchy (Romanov) as chairman of the Soviet party...
Dont forget Lenin with telepathic abilities.

OMON
05-25-2008, 06:13 AM
i agree too, i had so much fun with that game, it even had humor in it, and hot chicks, and guns, what else do u want?

Sousuke
05-25-2008, 07:29 AM
Westwood with Ra2 never wanted a serious game, but a fun game! And that they did, extremly well :) Even according to wikipedia games are supposed to be fun p-)

AlexMartin2
05-25-2008, 08:00 AM
Well, from point of view of causal player as myself, I found RA3 cool :)
I'd like to play ordering evil soviet masses to conquer the west :)

Messiah UKF
05-25-2008, 08:05 AM
I think RA2 was the best game in the C&C world.
best Cinematics (except for the chick that "played" Tanya), best music and best overall gameplay.

Did you play Yuri's revenge?

Yes, I own every C&C series game (unfortunately in many cases). I'm not saying RA2 wasn't enjoyable, I just don't think it had the same depth or fun as RA. Childish was a very good way to sum it up actually. Mutant Squid? Sonar Gun Dolphins? I know RA had its own set of 'novelty' weapons, but at least most of them kept themselves within the vague realms of reality/possibility.

I think a lot to do with is is I got a lot more playability out of RA and the 2 expansions, than RA2 and Yuri gave me. I might have to dust it off and try it again. Maybe I just miss the dirty, murky, gritty underworld of RA, as apposed to the Early Learning centre paint by numbers RA2.

*shrug*

Bring on RA3 I guess?

usa320
05-25-2008, 01:12 PM
Other than C&C Generals and Zero Hour, i always shyed away from the C&C series due to the "childishness" of it.... the weapons systems and units were always just a bit far fetched for me to swallow. Giant squid.... wtf?

FIA_cn
05-25-2008, 01:29 PM
Soviet vs USA vs Japan ?

Malleus
05-25-2008, 02:40 PM
RA2 was complete crap. All these zeppelins with evil faces, heir of Russian monarchy (Romanov) as chairman of the Soviet party...

RA was interesting, playable and believable (despite Stalin made look like a comical figure from time to time), RA2 was extremely childish.

Agreed. For me, C&C went downhill after Tiberian Sun (after EA stepped into the picture). RA3 looks like crap too.

BloodyTalon
05-25-2008, 03:12 PM
RA2 was complete crap. All these zeppelins with evil faces, heir of Russian monarchy (Romanov) as chairman of the Soviet party...

RA was interesting, playable and believable (despite Stalin made look like a comical figure from time to time), RA2 was extremely childish.
rofl Explain to me again what's believable about killer tesla coils, giant ants, and a time-traveling, Hitler-killing Albert Einstein? The RA series has always been campy and tongue-in-cheek.

Cipher
05-25-2008, 03:16 PM
I loved Red Alert 2 back in the day. Hope this one is good.

Mackie
05-25-2008, 03:24 PM
Supreme Commander FTW p-)

IraGlacialis
05-25-2008, 03:32 PM
Supreme Commander FTW p-)
Supreme Commander is indeed sheer awesomeness.

Messiah UKF
05-25-2008, 05:33 PM
rofl Explain to me again what's believable about killer tesla coils, giant ants, and a time-traveling, Hitler-killing Albert Einstein? The RA series has always been campy and tongue-in-cheek.

Giant Ants was merely a hidden bonus level, not the entire premise of the game.

Tesla coils, as I pointed out, fit RA's premise of probability/reality. You are aware of a man called Nikola Tesla, yes? Tesla Coils exist, although not to the degree in RA (I agree, giant lethal coils is a tad dramatic, but fun never-the-less). Hence they fit the realms of possibility criteria.

Time traveling - Yes indeed, but one has to shoe horn the story in somehow :)

I completely agree that RA has always had a certain tongue in cheek, carry on campness about it, but it also managed to retain some sort of dimension of realism/probability. RA2 committed suicide on these aspects. I mean, christ, a psychotic mind control lenin who can coerce cows to walk into mine fields? The list really does go on.

I actually enjoyed Generals more than RA2 (God forbid). This is really an argument of people's tastes, rather than what should and shouldn't be in the game, and many clearly like the new aspects, and many clearly don't. I always enjoyed the division between C&C and RA because they were two clearly defined realms of conflict. From first glance it just looks like EA mated them and then dropped the child on its head at birth.

I pray it will be a enjoyable game. C&C is the most endearing memory of PC gaming for me. The obliteration of westwood was a travesty.

Shadowstorm
05-26-2008, 12:46 AM
Really the Red Alert series has been based on real life WWII, Cold War and modern programs and which some are still classified to this day like the Allies dolphins which both Soviets and US navies uses dolphins in real life for anti-frogmen, anti-mine and surveillance duties and the dolphins are still being used by the US Navy to this day. Psychic research has been experimented by the United States and the Soviet Union during the Cold War like the famous Stargate Program and others which are still classified. Tesla technology which is based on Nikola Tesla research on electricity. Optical camouflage like the Allies Mirage Tank in RA2 uses is being studied by various military and civilians programs around the world. Also the Chrono technology is based on the infamous Philadelphia Experiment and other teleportation and time travel experiments which is too being researched. So saying Red Alert is a kiddie or tongue in cheek, just think about it.

Shadowstorm
05-26-2008, 04:43 AM
Anyway, I can't wait to get this game.

Doublethinker
05-27-2008, 02:22 AM
I agree....

Dont forget Lenin with telepathic abilities.

lol.

I mean, seriously, how is Germany having or not having nazis in power connected to the fact that zeppelins became obsolete soon after WWI and weren't used for bombing runs in WWII?

Was it Hitler who created aircrafts known as 'bombers' or what??

Doublethinker
05-27-2008, 02:26 AM
rofl Explain to me again what's believable about killer tesla coils, giant ants, and a time-traveling, Hitler-killing Albert Einstein? The RA series has always been campy and tongue-in-cheek.

It was believeable and playable as a sci-fi piece. In general, but not in all of its parts, of course (I don't remember giant ants in RA, but then again I played RA1 only for Allies, maybe the reds had them).

Snoshi
05-27-2008, 02:43 AM
lol.

I mean, seriously, how is Germany having or not having nazis in power connected to the fact that zeppelins became obsolete soon after WWI and weren't used for bombing runs in WWII?

Was it Hitler who created aircrafts known as 'bombers' or what??

Yeah but Zeppelins could take more punishment then the crappy allied harrier jet.. But there are other "unrealistic" things in that game.. Like for example i did not know that US had Patriot in 1950's while soviets still relied on flak cannons and Iraq was so advanced in their nuclear research(1950's) that they could build "desolators" that spoke with soviet accent

Shadowstorm
05-27-2008, 03:06 AM
lol.

I mean, seriously, how is Germany having or not having nazis in power connected to the fact that zeppelins became obsolete soon after WWI and weren't used for bombing runs in WWII?

Was it Hitler who created aircrafts known as 'bombers' or what??
We could say that about Turning Point: Fall of Liberty when the Luftwaffe zeppelins were over New York City in 1953! But the zeppelin concept is coming back and both civilian and military are interest in these airships, so I would never say they were obsolete.

Yeah but Zeppelins could take more punishment then the crappy allied harrier jet.. But there are other "unrealistic" things in that game.. Like for example i did not know that US had Patriot in 1950's while soviets still relied on flak cannons and Iraq was so advanced in their nuclear research(1950's) that they could build "desolators" that spoke with soviet accent
Really the game takes place in the 70's. But I do agree the AV-8B Harrier II and MIM-104 Patriot missile were in early stage in development during that time, but the Soviets kept there flak cannons in service and reserves.

Clearday-TRForce
05-27-2008, 04:54 AM
Actually I am waiting for Blizzard's Starcraft 2 to compare truly. But of course RA is a classic like Starcraft.