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Silent Reader
05-27-2008, 08:21 AM
The starting shot sounds for a new vehicle family from Rheinmetall and Krauss-Maffei Wegmann



AMPV: Rheinmetall and KMW point the way with a trendsetting joint development project
Increased survivability thanks to state-of-the-art force protection technology
Fosters high national value added and preservation of Germany's technological edge

Rheinmetall Defence of Düsseldorf and Krauss-Maffei Wegmann of Munich have launched a joint programme to develop a highly protected new vehicle family in the 5 to 9 ton weight class. The first of the four-wheel drive Armoured Multi Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) vehicles should be ready for serial delivery by 2011. A life-size mock-up of the vehicle will be on show at Eurosatory 2008 in Paris this June, one of the world's leading venues for land systems. Completion of the first prototype is planned for 2009.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5822/ampv1alp3.jpg

Responding to the Bundeswehr's current GFF ("protected command and role-specific vehicle") procurement programme, Rheinmetall and Krauss-Maffei Wegmann have decided to develop a family of GFF 1/2-class vehicles which will fully comply with user requirements. The two defence contractors are financing the development project on their own.


The objective of the joint project is to supply the armed forces of Germany and other nations with a vehicle that sets an entirely new standard for mobility, modularity and protection technology; and to safeguard and promote certain technologies vital to German national security.


AMPV vehicle family


The vehicle family encompasses two type series. The agile AMPV1 is the smaller of the two, and makes an ideal liaison vehicle. A higher level of protection and a heavier payload are the primary characteristics of the bigger AMPV2. However, the entire vehicle family is based on standardized engineering principles and technologies.

Both type series feature a patrol vehicle with an unprotected floor in the rear section, and an equipment kit carrier with a safety cell extending all the way to the rear of the vehicle.

Also planned is a special patrol version of the AMPV1 that can be airlifted in a CH53 transport helicopter.


Protection and mobility are the driving forces behind the AMPV


Two of the world's best-known suppliers of land systems, KMW and Rheinmetall both bring extensive experience from previous programmes to the AMPV development project.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4834/ampv2ajpgmu4.jpg

The highly protected vehicle cell is an autonomous armoured steel structure with a spoor liner, while the reinforced undercarriage and reinforced cell structure offer optimum protection against landmines and IEDs. Moreover, add-on armour modules make sure that the various vehicle versions receive the required level of ballistic protection.


Drawing on past experience, the designers of the AMPV family have equipped the vehicles with a robust, high-performance running gear, independent wheel suspension, outstanding spring deflection and high ground clearance – all specifically designed with military requirements in mind. These engineering principles are borrowed from the Boxer programme. Special combat wheels with run-flat tyres assure continued mobility even in critical situations.

A powerful 3.2-liter diesel engine with an output of around 200 kW guarantees excellent performance in all conditions. The vehicles all feature permanent four-wheel drive as well as automatic transmission and automatic differential lock management, relieving the strain on the driver.

The AMPV1 and AMPV2 are both extremely compact, and differ only slightly in height, length and wheelbase.

All vehicles in the AMPV family consist largely of identical components; the workstations in the fighting compartment are also identical, ensuring uniform operation. The advantages in terms of simplified logistics and training are readily evident.
Source: http://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/index.php?fid=4710&lang=3 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=8)

Mackie
05-27-2008, 08:36 AM
Also planned is a special patrol version of the AMPV1 that can be airlifted in a CH53 transport helicopter.


That's what we need. But 2011? O.o

playtym
05-27-2008, 08:41 AM
Source: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=8

Interesting looking vehicle, but your source is the "post new thread" page?

Silent Reader
05-27-2008, 08:44 AM
Interesting looking vehicle, but your source is the "post new thread" page?


oops :oops:
fixed it :)

little icebear
05-27-2008, 10:48 AM
We just decided to buy round about 400 (!) MoWag Eagle and now they want to build another vehicle playing in the same class or league concerning size and mission profile?!

WTF?!

GETSOME
05-28-2008, 09:38 AM
It looks good,but how good is it?:roll:

Mackie
05-28-2008, 10:16 AM
We just decided to buy round about 400 (!) MoWag Eagle and now they want to build another vehicle playing in the same class or league concerning size and mission profile?!

WTF?!

GGF1!
Like Gavial, Survivor or Fretchen, which failed in the recent testing.

mountainbear
05-30-2008, 07:35 AM
We just decided to buy round about 400 (!) MoWag Eagle and now they want to build another vehicle playing in the same class or league concerning size and mission profile?!

WTF?!

Interesting when did it happen and do you have more info? I haven’t seen anything about it yet.

Silent Reader
05-30-2008, 09:21 AM
Interesting when did it happen and do you have more info? I haven’t seen anything about it yet.

http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/16/070/1607094.pdf

according to this the Eagle IV has been selected as the new GFF 2 vehicle. there is a need for 486 GFF 2 vehicles. first deliveries were planned for 2008 (this paper is from the end of 2007)
the first deliveries of GFF 1 vehicles were planned for 2010 though no decision had been made at that point so the new AMPV has a realistical chance of becoming the new GFF 1 (of which we plan to acquire 247 according to this paper)

Silent Reader
06-08-2008, 10:39 AM
While the Bundeswehr’s current GFF (“protected command and role-specific vehicle”) is being addressed by heavier vehicles, the companies decided to develop a GFF 1/2-class to address evolving requirements. Development costs are being shared by the two partners. The AMPV vehicle family will encompass two type series - an agile AMPV 1 will be the smaller of the two, proposed as a well protected liaison vehicle. A higher level of protection and a heavier payload are the primary characteristics of the bigger AMPV 2. The AMPV1 and AMPV2 are both extremely compact, and differ only slightly in height, length and wheelbase. The entire vehicle family will be based on standardized engineering principles and technologies. Both type series will also have patrol vehicle configuration, a utility version with an unprotected floor in the rear section, and an equipment kit carrier with a safety cell extending all the way to the rear of the vehicle. Also planned is a special patrol version of the AMPV1 that can be airlifted in a CH53 transport helicopter.
The crew compartment will comprise a highly protected vehicle cell configured as an autonomous armored steel structure with a spoor liner. Reinforced undercarriage and reinforced cell structure will enhance protection against landmines and IEDs. Add-on armor modules could be added, to meet higher ballistic protection requirements. All vehicles in the AMPV family consist largely of identical components; the workstations in the fighting compartment are also identical, ensuring uniform operation. The advantages in terms of simplified logistics and training are readily evident.
The vehicle will receive a high-performance running gear, independent wheel suspension and spring deflection and run-flat tires assuring high performance on and off-road and continued mobility even in critical situations; it will maintain high ground clearance to improve cross-country and cross-obstacle mobility. The vehicle will be powered by a 3.2-liter diesel engine with an output of around 200 kW. It will have a permanent four-wheel drive as well as automatic transmission and automatic differential lock management, relieving the strain on the driver.
Source: http://www.defense-update.com/newscast/0508/news/news1205_rws.htm

mountainbear
06-08-2008, 01:22 PM
I nearly forgot about this thread.
Thanks for your answer Silent Reader. So Eagle IV was selected but no order were made yet?
A shift to the AMPV 2 might still happen?

Praet
07-24-2008, 08:19 AM
Eagle IV was selected but no order were made yet?
A shift to the AMPV 2 might still happen?
No orders have been placed yet due to internal quarrels within the political party CDU/CSU concerning former Bundeswehr sites that were apparently sold under value.
The members of the Haushaltsausschuss, though, have recently given green light for the first 25 Eagle IV to be procured this year, although a formal agreement hasn't yet been reached and full procurement won't start until this happens.
There will be no shift to the AMPV2 in the near future, however the AMPV1 might be cosidered for GFF cat I. Another theoretical possibility would be the AMPV2 being considered for later batches of GFF cat II vehicles after the first batches of Eagle IV have been procured.

solidarnosc
07-24-2008, 03:14 PM
Shame for Iveco because if Germany had bought LMV it would have been the European standard. MOWAG probably went deep to get this order.

Praet
07-24-2008, 04:06 PM
They didn't have to.
The Eagle IV is the better vehicle (e.g. in terms of payload, power/weight ratio and protection levels), and the non-impressive performance of the LMV both in Norwegian service in Afghanistan and during the WTD trials in Germany didn't help in selling it either.