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Snoshi
05-28-2008, 07:20 AM
Defense Minister Ehud Barak says he believes prime minister cannot run government, his personal affairs at the same time. In special press conference, he calls on Olmert to detatch himself from management of State as soon as possible

I believe Prime Minister Ehud Olmert cannot run the government and his personal affairs at the same time, Defense Minister Ehud Barak said in a special press conference Wednesday afternoon convened following US businessman Morris Talansky's pre-trial deposition Tuesday, in which he said he gave Olmert hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash.

"The prime minister must detach himself from the daily management of the government. He can do so in a variety of ways, which will not be determined by us," Barak said.

Asked what he would do if Olmert's ignores his stance, Barak replied that "the prime minister must act, and the Kadima party must make decisions."

The defense minister noted that "Olmert cannot deal with the challenges Israel faces, like Hamas, Hizbullah, Syria, Iran and the kidnapped soldiers, and run his personal affairs at the same time."

He added that "the Labor Party will not hold a stopwatch in Kadima's face, but things have to happen as soon as possible… The State deserves stability, and therefore we must have a government in the Knesset. I am not afraid of elections. The public will decide and we will win."

The Labor chairman briefed his faction members on his remarks several minutes before the press conference. He told them that he would call on the prime minister to leave office.

Earlier Wednesday, Barak told Olmert that he cannot stay in office, as the two met for about an hour at the Prime Minister's Office in Jerusalem.

The meeting was held following the recent developments in the police investigation launched against the prime minister and Olmert's fear that the Labor Party chairman would call on him to take leave of absence.

Wednesday's meeting was held following a National Security Cabinet discussion. As Barak prepared to return to the Knesset and prepare for his press conference, Olmert summed him to his office.


Ministers call on Kadima to 'take responsibility'

A large number of politicians have called on Barak to declare that the prime minister must leave office following Talansky's testimony.

Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer said Wednesday morning that "Kadima must take responsibility and make difficult decisions. I am not ruling out an election campaign. The problem is of a person who I hope manages to prove his innocence and is acquitted. The problem is Kadima's and Olmert's."

Minister Ami Ayalon told Ynet that "the prime minister cannot stay in office." He said that Israel's citizens had the right to have a prime minister who is capable of governing.

"He should draw the necessary conclusions from Morris Talansky's deposition. If he fails to do this – the Labor party will work towards pushing up the elections," Ayalon said.

Dramatic voices were also heard among members of the prime minister's party. Knesset Member Amira Dotan (Kadima) sent a letter to Olmert, calling on him to vacate his office in favor of "an alternative leadership which will advance the State's affairs."

MK Dotan wrote in the letter, "Mr. Talansky's testimony still echoes in my years and requires a public leadership statement. We must serve as an example for values and norms which are what gained us the public's trust."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3548932,00.html

TheBelgian
05-28-2008, 07:24 AM
Christ, when I read the title I though it was Obama who was saying it hehe

Korath
05-28-2008, 07:55 AM
it's an interesting moment to disperse Knesset with tension around gaza and with HA/Syria. I wonder if Olmert decides to launch a military operation just to stay in power?

LRPV
05-28-2008, 08:59 AM
it's an interesting moment to disperse Knesset with tension around gaza and with HA/Syria. I wonder if Olmert decides to launch a military operation just to stay in power?

As I stated elsewhere, I'd give Olmert 1-2 months. He took money, that has killed him politically.

As for a military operation, Olmert has 2006 behind him to haunt Israel. Rather than treat it as a war he treated it as an operation. IDF battle plans to isolate the south, isolate Tyre were not put into operation. With his record, I hope the IDF hold off on Gaza until Barak takes over.

AGE-Ranger
05-28-2008, 09:19 AM
Christ, when I read the title I though it was Obama who was saying it hehe

http://www.youtube.com/v/3NOXvCXV968&hl=en

Korath
05-28-2008, 09:51 AM
Olmert aide: He'll weather the storm

PM's associates call Barak's demand that Olmert resign or suspend himself 'cynical', say move aimed at destroying Kadima

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3549060,00.html

Ariha
05-28-2008, 12:05 PM
until Barak takes over.

I donīt see Barak doing things any different than Olmert, I even fear Barak doing things like Barak (2.000). And now Sharon is not around to clean the mess.

IDF_TANKER
05-28-2008, 12:14 PM
I donīt see Barak doing things any different than Olmert, I even fear Barak doing things like Barak (2.000). And now Sharon is not around to clean the mess.
Whom you are going to vote then? Bibi?

loganinkosovo
05-28-2008, 05:48 PM
Christ, when I read the title I though it was Obama who was saying it hehe

Wouldn't that be the definition of Irony! rofl

loganinkosovo
05-28-2008, 05:49 PM
it's an interesting moment to disperse Knesset with tension around gaza and with HA/Syria. I wonder if Olmert decides to launch a military operation just to stay in power?
Thats what Bill Clinton did all those years..... :)

Korath
05-28-2008, 05:57 PM
Thats what Bill Clinton did all those years..... :)

it's a classic move - to focus attention on something other than the current scandal and rally public behind a 'fighting leader'. such tactics would, however, require Olmert to actually make some significant decisions...

throwback
05-28-2008, 08:55 PM
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb187/sonias_2007/maio/20080527125257ENLUS0135915912118927.jpg

Announcer: "Prime Minister Olmert, you've just resigned from office in disgrace. You've got a load of American money. What are you going to do next ?"

Prime Minister Olmert: "I'm going to DisneyWorld !!!!!"

(sorry, I couldn' resist)

LRPV
05-29-2008, 08:41 AM
Barak: Early elections seem inevitable
JPost.com Staff , THE JERUSALEM POST May. 29, 2008

A day after the press conference in which he called on Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to "detach himself from the day-to-day leadership of the country" in light of the Morris Talansky affair, Defense Minister and Labor party chairman Ehud Barak said Wednesday that he would prefer to strengthen the government and keep the current coalition in the Knesset over going to early elections.
Speaking at a meeting of Labor ministers, Barak added that despite this preference, he believes it is most likely that the political system will be forced to go to early elections.
During the meeting, the ministers made sure to comment to the defense minister that they did not know in advance about Wednesday's press conference.
Despite this, the ministers expressed support for Barak's position.
The ministers decided that they would grant Kadima a period of a few weeks to organize themselves and to decide whether or not to replace Olmert internally and keep the current coalition intact. If Kadima does not take this option, the minister decided that the Labor party will begin the process of early elections.



Won't be long now before The Great Appeaser is gone...

Violet Fashion by Mindy
05-29-2008, 08:46 AM
Haha man Israeli politics is worse then Italian politics.

gilgoul
05-29-2008, 10:26 AM
You hold on something here Minardiau, in fact, the entire political system here is corrupt beside a few and noteworthy exceptions.
What is most needed is a profound reform of the way things are done here, but first of all, I'll be glad to see Olmert go in jail.

Violet Fashion by Mindy
05-29-2008, 10:45 AM
All political systems are ****ed. Especially in democracies.

Take Australia for example.

A few years ago Newcastle had one (still does really) of the biggest and most advances shipbuilding industries in the country.

When the ANZAC Class frigates were put to tender it was between Newcastle and Melbourne bidding for the contract.

Newcastle had been on the receiving end of a major earthquake. Faced massive unemployment problems and at the time was very much the slums of Australia. A contract like this would have done wonders for Newcastles rebuilding and unemployment problems. Alas because Newcastle is ALP heartland IE every body votes for the one party guess where the contract was awarded?

Melbourne.

Why?

Why give the contract to a city that always votes for you.

Newcastle has been crying out for years for a new stadium. Guess where all the federal and state government funding to new stadiums goes to? Cities that also contain marginal seats. Result Newcastle still makes do with a rundown stadium and other cities get new stadiums they don't even use.

Collins class subs. Again. Newcastle already had the shipbuilding infrastructure in place. What do they do? Build NEW unneeded infrastructure in a city that did not need infrastructure nor faced the same unemployment problems.

Newcastle is in major need of public spending in public transport and infrastructure. Yet because they don't need to spend money here to buy votes they just ignore the city. Hence the loss of all these contracts. Removal of rail lines and public transport.

Democracy eye. Most inefficient and corrupt system there is going. It's all about buying votes. No need to spend money if your already got the votes.

Ariha
05-29-2008, 04:18 PM
Whom you are going to vote then? Bibi?

Maschiach p-)

IDF_TANKER
05-29-2008, 04:20 PM
Maschiach p-)
You mean - Lieberman? :)

Ariha
05-29-2008, 05:57 PM
You mean - Lieberman? :)

To see the Machiach? Ale Yarok, of course.

Snoshi
05-30-2008, 02:05 PM
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has agreed to hold primaries for the leadership of Kadima in the near future, Channel 10 reported Friday.

According to the report, which quoted unnamed sources in Kadima, Olmert does not intend to participate in the process.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1212041436507&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull