pics of civilian contractors (part 2)

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This is a continuation of Fronts thred found Here (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12365&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=pmcs&start=0)

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MSTNCustomer-2.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/animalM4s-2.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/Crybabies.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/DeltaSwords.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MSTNCustomer-1.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/NAJAFBOYZ.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/MSTNCustomer-3.jpg
Is an M203 considered a defensive weapon? Maybe he's not a PMC ??
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/MSTNCustomer-4.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/BWSPR1.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/BWSPR2.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/BUGEI009KABUL.jpg
What an ugly M16 varriant... but if it does the job p-)
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/BUGEI-1.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/BWBOYZ.jpg
wow 1st pic I've seen of a PMC with a saw (besides the ones of the Black Water helo's)



Please don't Flame we had enough of that in part 1 of this thred.

Enjoy :D

[ibstolidude]

Nice AA beowulf.
gee I wonder where they are from?

good pics.

[tuckerhat]

gj woot

[Dennis G]

great pics




What do you think this is a tattoo of?

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/MSTNCustomer-3.jpg

[Vance]

The Wild West... woot

[Wakizashi]

interesting pics... i think esquire mag or something did an interesting article on contractors awhile back... thks for sharing anyways

[ChuckThunder]

pics of civilian contractors in Iraq (part 2)

This pic isn't from Iraq... :lol:

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MSTNCustomer-2.jpg

[Dennis G]

yeah Pakistan look at that :lol:

[scrybe]

Those guys always have the coolest toys.

[SHELLSHOCK]

Great Pics. Would be interesting to find out what there doing in Pakistan.

[xjym2002]

I heard many of them are using AKs there. Why all M4s here?

[MEGR]

I heard many of them are using AKs there. Why all M4s here?

Don't matter, both of 'em are great...

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pics of civilian contractors in Iraq (part 2)

This pic isn't from Iraq... :lol:



hahaha good eyes Chuck ...
I'm using a low quality monitor here at work and didnt even notice that :oops:

Edited to add:
Ok I changed the title to this thred, again good eyes Chuck ;)

[ChuckThunder]

Great Pics. Would be interesting to find out what there doing in Pakistan.

Don't cream your pants yet, they're just providing security.

[Sir Zach of R.]

The guy in pic 5 might be SF. Since when have PMCs had the liberty of hauling around AT-4s?

[Vance]

The guy in pic 5 might be SF. Since when have PMCs had the liberty of hauling around AT-4s?
And that sure as hell ain't Iraq.

[TRACER_BULLET]

The guy in pic 5 might be SF. Since when have PMCs had the liberty of hauling around AT-4s?

Ahh good eyes Zach ... :P

I pulled these pics from a thred titled "customers" so a few of these guys being SF is an option ... unless anyone gets to upset I'm not gonna change the thred title any time soon ( I'm still @ work).

My intention wasn't to lable these pictures wrong ... but to give you all a chance to see them.
:D

[kommando]

great pics dude
havent been on in a while
just a questionare most of these guys SF? (as in ex)
they all look pretty ripped liek bulky arms adn stuff
i know the secutiry comntarctors from aussie were all ex SASR and NSW SPG.
how do you get to be a security contractor are you asked, or you olunteer or what?

and whats the vest of the first dude in the second pic looks really good design.


nathan

[tuckerhat]

Great Pics. Would be interesting to find out what there doing in Pakistan.

Don't cream your pants yet, they're just providing security.

it says welcome to pakistan... so the photo was taken by the border? maybe theyre "in" afghanistan?

[tony6]

Some former GROM operators will be also involved.
They are being recruited right now by "some private US corporation" :)

[Burncycle]

Ah, airsofters go to war is all I can think :)

No accountability with the US government. Such freedom......

[Argyll]

Ah, airsofters go to war is all I can think :)

No accountability with the US government. Such freedom......


Just what we need....................another expert who thinks he knows it all.

A lot of these pics are regular SF,but they have had customized upper recievers made for them.

There are quite a few PSD teams armed with SAW's,these guys are rear gunners,who sit facing the rear looking for fast movers.

A lot of PSD teams are getting "bumped" for being too overt,not sure if you are aware,but Bremer's PSD team has/is changing from to another reputable Security firm out here in Iraq.

[Burncycle]

Just what we need....................another expert who thinks he knows it all.

Excuse? What are you talking about?

[Fargin]

Ah, airsofters go to war is all I can think :)

No accountability with the US government. Such freedom......


Just what we need....................another expert who thinks he knows it all.

A lot of these pics are regular SF,but they have had customized upper recievers made for them.

Funny, I was thinking what so civilian about these guys, some of them even wear flags.

[moughoun]

Just what we need....................another expert who thinks he knows it all.

Excuse? What are you talking about?

He is talking of the fact that he work's for a pmc in Iraq so he know's a hell of alot more about what's going on out there then you ,me or anyone else on the forum :roll:

[Burncycle]

He is talking of the fact that he work's for a pmc in Iraq so he know's a hell of alot more about what's going on out there then you ,me or anyone else on the forum

Ah ok. Well, more power to him, I didn't insult anybody. I don't claim to know what's going on :)

[Argyll]

We are accountable mate,it's not a free for all out here

[fdt]

We are accountable mate,it's not a free for all out hereAlready in Green Zone?

[Argyll]

We are accountable mate,it's not a free for all out hereAlready in Green Zone?

Yeah been back for 5 days,lots going on and it's gonna get worse by all accounts

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Ah, airsofters go to war is all I can think :)

No accountability with the US government. Such freedom......


Just what we need....................another expert who thinks he knows it all.

A lot of these pics are regular SF,but they have had customized upper recievers made for them.

There are quite a few PSD teams armed with SAW's,these guys are rear gunners,who sit facing the rear looking for fast movers.

A lot of PSD teams are getting "bumped" for being too overt,not sure if you are aware,but Bremer's PSD team has/is changing from to another reputable Security firm out here in Iraq.

Thanks for the info Agryll, I'm glad you've come along give some info about these pics :D

I feel like I should have title this topic a bit diffrent, sence these pics are from the same source as the other PMC thred I wanted to continue it in a sence ;)

Btw Stay safe Agryll and snap some pics if / when you can :D
Take care mate

[Burncycle]

We are accountable mate,it's not a free for all out here

My apologies

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We are accountable mate,it's not a free for all out here

My apologies

huh? :|

[Argyll]

We are accountable mate,it's not a free for all out here

My apologies

No drama's mate,we still operate under the PMC ROE's,and can still be held accountable for incidents,RTA's etc.
There will be more accountability from 30th June,where we may fall under Iraqi Law,and for serious offences may end up at Abu Graib,nobody for sure knows what Laws will be implemented.
IMHO the Iraqi's are not ready for this,there is still too much work,and bridges to mend(Ethnic),it's too soon to allow them to Govern themselves,I might be wrong,but things will begin to escalate till then,and thereafter,it maybe pure chaos...........not the peacefull transition everyone thinks will occur............I hope I'm wrong,for the sake of the good Iraqi people.

[ZeroPositive]

You give us a real honest opinion on things and what from my mates tell me when they were in Iraq, it doesn't sound good and I hope you don't come to harm and if you do make it out alive.

Take care.

[Subliminal One]

Lots of cool pics on that thermaldynamics.com picture server. Kinda interesting... the homepage is about automobile technology. I wonder who runs that server?

[Argyll]

You give us a real honest opinion on things and what from my mates tell me when they were in Iraq, it doesn't sound good and I hope you don't come to harm and if you do make it out alive.

Take care.

Blimey mate,the way you wrote that sounded like we were all going to die.and that the place is like Dante's Inferno........it's not,there are quiet days and there are days like yesterday........so far today no drama's.this time yesterday 4 IED's had gone off.......zero so far.

It's not as bad as the media make it out to be,and that's from seeing it out on the ground,sure it's nuts at times.......but so is Glasgow ,Manchester and Los Angeles!! ;)

[MVSpartan117]

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/animalM4s-2.jpg

Can anyonr identify the middle guys vest?

[fokket]

TT MAV II

[Graeme]

What are the rules regarding weapons and private security firms in Iraq? I've noticed a couple of armalites only having a safe/semi trigger group, are these firms limited to semi only or what?

[ASSASSIN]

so wait, Argyll, your a "contractor" ?

i had no idea... with all the **** going on over there how do u have time to post on this forum?

[Argyll]

because I work with a very good contract company. ;)

Today was a long trip..........just short of the Iranian border........no dramas.

[ASSASSIN]

haha, got any pics of u and your "co-workers" perferably with a decent amount of firearms :D

[ZeroPositive]

Yeah Argyll didn't mean anything :) Just that you never know right, you sound pretty cool and we still need you to moderate this forum hehehehehee
No way Glasgow is way more Dangerous then Iraq :D

[Sir Zach of R.]

Argyll, you talk of how the violence might escalate over the next month or so. Look man, just don't get shot.

[PYCB]

Their equipements are better than most of regular Army men, but who support their weapons? Army or their contract company? and they need to pay for the scope and other accessoires theself or by their boss?
thanks

[deutschersoldat]

they have got a good equipment? why dont the use g 36?

[Argyll]

Their equipements are better than most of regular Army men, but who support their weapons? Army or their contract company? and they need to pay for the scope and other accessoires theself or by their boss?
thanks

All Equipment is privately ownen my friend,not issued!
Weapons are mostly bought local,ie AK's,or from confiscated insurgents,in CP work,scopes are not essential,iron sights are just fine,if you want a scope.........you buy it..........simple as that.
Some guys have also bought weapons privately too,such as MP5K's.


they have got a good equipment? why dont the use g 36?

AMMO!!!.......there is plenty of 7.62mm short here,so the AK is the preferred weapon........5.56mm is tied to the Coalition,and is not that easy to bring into Iraq,but then again,there are a few PSD teams tooled up with M4's.
I'd be happy to take a G36C,perfect for CP/PSD work.... ;)

[Upfrontreporting]

Subliminal One:


Lots of cool pics on that thermaldynamics.com picture server. Kinda interesting... the homepage is about automobile technology. I wonder who runs that server?


You got any direct link?


regards.

Disregard, found it.

www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures

[Raistlin]

www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures

Wow, some really cool pics there. My favorites:

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/COPWest03/552.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/COPWest03/BriefcaseHK.jpg

Never seen that gun before:

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/COPWest03/MP7-2.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/COPWest03/Wall-1.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/guns/VTAL-05.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/DD-1.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/Tubbs-3.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SpecOp185.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SpecOp242.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SS04/F2000-3.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SS04/EOTech-01.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SS04/Magpul-01.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SS04/SageM14.jpg

Never saw those guns as well:

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SS04/XM8-4.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SS04/XM8-5.jpg

Overall, it seems that the majority of pictures were made by a company which either manufactures or sells all those parts.

[SOG]

i have ****ing woooooood!!!!!

is that the heavily modified m14 socom 3rd pic from bottom!? ive seen the gun plain but not decked out!

[MaxPayne]

SOG: pretty sure its a modified m14 socom

Raistlin:

this gun is a h&k MP7

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/COPWest03/MP7-2.jpg

[scrybe]

There are all kinds of pics tucked away in there. I was just looking at some pics of them taking apart the bolt of H&K's M4. Haven't seen any pics like that online yet.

[SOG]

yeah i just went through them all, found a pic of a 6.8 barrel
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/OPS68-2.jpg

and found a cooler clearer pic of the latter end of the m14/manufacturer
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SS04/Troy-06.jpg

[dumdidum]

putting the flashlight behind a bipod must be very effective... anyhow theres to much junk on the rifle.

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/SS04/Magpul-01.jpg

[Raistlin]

anyhow theres to much junk on the rifle.
Yeah, I thought to myself "can it shoot as well?"

[scrybe]

Yea I kind of decided all that stuff is on there "because we can."

[ctcboy]

If you look closely it seems that the bipod is mounted in an off set manner so the beam from the flashlight would clear it.

[Dennis G]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040607/capt.mh10406072014.iraq_death_mh104.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040607/capt.mh10306072011.iraq_death_mh103.jpg

[Bulkowski]

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/BUGEI009KABUL.jpg
That rifle looks fake

[scrybe]

I woudn't want to find out the hard way that it isn't.

[DE_Six]

Hot

http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MEU-SOC.jpg

:D

[Apogeumus]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040607/capt.mh10406072014.iraq_death_mh104.jpg



WoW!! This guy has polish miliary desert trousers (old type), he is propably ex-GROM soldiers !! p-)

[tuckerhat]

WoW!! This guy has polish miliary desert trousers (old type), he is propably ex-GROM soldiers !! p-)

he was ex-nsw (disregard if ure being sarcastic)

[Alphabet76]

WoW!! This guy has polish miliary desert trousers (old type), he is propably ex-GROM soldiers !! http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smiles/icon_pirate.gif

No, his name is (was http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif) Chris Neidrich. He has been working for CIS and was killed some time ago in an ambush near Baghad International Airport. Here is what happend:


Two PSC vehicles, a soft skin Suburban (with four occupants: 2 American, 2 Poles) in
the lead and an armored Suburban (3 occupants: 1 American, 2 Poles) in the trail,
headed toward BIAP from CPA. Past the second bridge, they were approached by two
enemy vehicles at a very high rate of speed. SAF from enemy vehicles disabled the lead
(softskin) vehicle which almost immediately caught fire. Second (armored) vehicle
moved into screening position near disabled vehicle. Armored vehicle had a flat tire and
catches fire. Enemy vehicles stop approximately 100 meters away and begin SAF.
Occupants of softskin vehicle try to exit- some/all possibly dead or may be near dead at
that time. At least one more enemy vehicle possibly two approached and was stopped to
the rear of two vehicles and began SAF. At this point with both vehicles disabled,
remaining personnel decide to break contact. Depleting all available ammunition, PSC
exfilled across highway to oncoming traffic, commandeered a vehicle from local national
and are driven to GZ by vehicle owner. Four KIA (2 Americans, 2 Poles), three WIA.

http://www.cisworldservices.org/memorial/RAVEN18.html

It was confirmed by the Blackwater representative that those tho Poles who died were ex-Grom soldiers. RIP

[Alphabet76]

BTW. Some other photos of Chris Neidrich:
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/CN/Chris_Friends-1.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/CN/Chris_Friends-2.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/CN/Chris_MIG-1.jpg
http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/MSTN/CN/Chris_MIG-2.jpg

[Seraphim]

RIP

[DE_Six]

RIP

[Apogeumus]

WoW!! This guy has polish miliary desert trousers (old type), he is propably ex-GROM soldiers !! http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smiles/icon_pirate.gif

No, his name is (was http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif) Chris Neidrich. He has been working for CIS and was killed some time ago in an ambush near Baghad International Airport. Here is what happend:


Two PSC vehicles, a soft skin Suburban (with four occupants: 2 American, 2 Poles) in
the lead and an armored Suburban (3 occupants: 1 American, 2 Poles) in the trail,
headed toward BIAP from CPA. Past the second bridge, they were approached by two
enemy vehicles at a very high rate of speed. SAF from enemy vehicles disabled the lead
(softskin) vehicle which almost immediately caught fire. Second (armored) vehicle
moved into screening position near disabled vehicle. Armored vehicle had a flat tire and
catches fire. Enemy vehicles stop approximately 100 meters away and begin SAF.
Occupants of softskin vehicle try to exit- some/all possibly dead or may be near dead at
that time. At least one more enemy vehicle possibly two approached and was stopped to
the rear of two vehicles and began SAF. At this point with both vehicles disabled,
remaining personnel decide to break contact. Depleting all available ammunition, PSC
exfilled across highway to oncoming traffic, commandeered a vehicle from local national
and are driven to GZ by vehicle owner. Four KIA (2 Americans, 2 Poles), three WIA.

http://www.cisworldservices.org/memorial/RAVEN18.html

It was confirmed by the Blackwater representative that those tho Poles who died were ex-Grom soldiers. RIP

But he got polish trousers p-) I'm wondering how he got it, maybe one of those two exGROM operators gave it to him

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www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures

Wow, some really cool pics there. My favorites:


Never saw those guns as well:



Overall, it seems that the majority of pictures were made by a company which either manufactures or sells all those parts.


Guys thermaldynamics.com , I THINK is run by a great guy ... who just so happends is member here he usually goes by SMGLEE. SMGLEE has a website where he sells some gear rite HERE (http://www.CLTactical.com).
:D
If I'm wrong I apologize in advance.

[Tate]

All I see is a red x instead of the picture. I typed the url in my address box, still no picture.

[East]

I second that. ^

I SEE X's

[scrybe]

Look at the dates of the original posts, guys. The pictures have probably been removed or moved since they were posted.

[Tate]

Does anyone know where they can be found, there where some good photos on there?

[Raistlin]

Some really good photos. And unfortunately I didn't mirror any of them.

[Tate]

Oh well, thanks anyways man.