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Snoshi
06-11-2008, 07:27 PM
As US President George W. Bush lobbies European Union leaders for tighter economic sanction against Iran, conservative elements in Tehran are taking steps to moderate the behavior of Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Bush was in Slovenia on June 10 for a summit meeting with EU leaders. A variety of media outlets reported that the United States and EU were in agreement that economic sanctions against Iran needed to be strengthened unless Tehran took verifiable action to halt its uranium enrichment activities. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive]. The EU’s foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, was expected to travel to Tehran later this week or early next week for another round of talks aimed at getting Iran to cooperate with the West on the nuclear issue.

While the nuclear program remains a priority concern for members of the governing elite in Iran, their attention is also focused on domestic politics, given that a presidential election is looming in 2009. Concern is mounting among various conservative factions in Tehran that Ahmadinejad’s confrontational approach to international politics, combined with his thorough mismanagement of the economy, is undermining the traditionalists’ hold on power. While many continue to view Ahmadinejad as the man who can best unite key conservative constituencies -- militant nationalists and Islamic pietists -- traditionalists want to place greater restraints on Ahmadinejad, hoping that he becomes a less divisive figure in Iranian politics.

In recent months, Ahmadinejad has exhibited a penchant for extreme partisanship in the domestic political arena, with his neo-conservative faction showing less and less interest in cooperating with other conservative factions on major policy decisions. Members of the government who have not remained in lock-step with his political agenda have been forced out.

The leaders of other traditionalist factions fear that a continuation of Ahmadinejad’s intolerant political course could leave the conservative movement divided during an election year, thus increasing the odds that reformists could regain the presidency in 2009.

The clearest indicator of mounting conservative unease about Ahmadinejad was the election of Ali Larijani as the speaker of parliament. Larijani, who formerly served as Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator, is a representative of what some experts in Tehran have dubbed the New Technocrat faction, which is philosophically conservative and pragmatic in its approach to politics. The New Technocrats -- as opposed to the Old Technocrats, who are now mostly allied to the reformists -- generally have a strong connection to the Revolutionary Guards, as do Ahmadinejad and his neo-conservative allies. In addition to Larijani, prominent New Technocrat leaders include the former head of the Revolutionary Guards, Mohsen Rezaii, and the current Tehran mayor, Mohammed Bagher Ghalibaf.

Larijani and Ahmadinejad are believed to despise each other, their mutual animosity rooted in their competition for influence over the nuclear program. Although widely acknowledged in Tehran for his skill in defending Iranian interests, Larijani’s refusal to go along with Ahmadinejad’s confrontational approach led him to resign as chief nuclear negotiator in the fall of 2007. During the months prior to the resignation, Ahmadinejad appeared to deliberately embarrass Larijani on several occasions. In one such instance, in February 2007, Larijani indicated in a speech given at a security conference in Munich that Iran was ready to meet International Atomic Energy Agency conditions concerning Tehran’s nuclear program. The very next day, Ahmadinejad dashed such expectations, announcing that "anyone who backed down on Iran’s right to a nuclear program would be the most hated man in Iran."

Presently, Larijani is viewed as one of the few politicians in Iran with sufficient stature to make Ahmadinejad listen to the complaints and desires of other conservative factions. In accepting the parliamentary speakership, Larijani made two key policy statements designed to put Ahmadinejad on notice. Concerning the nuclear issue, Larijani announced an intention to strengthen parliament’s oversight of the government. He went so far as to indicate that he might open an alternate, parliament-controlled channel of communication with the United Nations. In announcing this, Larijani employed hard-line language designed to preempt efforts by Ahmadinejad to undermine the initiative. "Our suggestion is that they (foreign powers) refrain from the dubious diplomatic game of bouncing around Iran’s nuclear file between IAEA and the 5+1," Larijani said, referring to the five permanent members of the UN Security Council, plus Germany.

"We declare here that the parliament will not allow such duplicity to go on," Larijani continued.

Larijani similarly let Ahmadinejad know that parliament would no longer allow the presidential administration to run roughshod over the legislative process, implementing policies without due input from MPs.

For now, it appears that the conservative factions that are disappointed with Ahmadinejad are not prepared to ditch him; they just want him to tone down his act. This much was evident with the recent publication of an anonymous letter to the editor on a website run by Rezaii, one of the New Technocrat leaders. Observers in Tehran said the publication of a letter by an anonymous writer was highly unusual, and prompted some to speculate that it was linked to the office of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. The letter cast Larijani and Ahmadinejad as colleagues in the same cause, and cautioned against them becoming embroiled in a political rivalry. "What is crucial … is for the two heads of the two branches of government to cooperate in resolving the country’s two main domestic and foreign challenges [spiraling inflation and the nuclear issue]," the anonymous editorialist stated. "Neither side should try to control the other, or to weaken the other."

Whether Ahmadinejad gets the message remains to be seen. If he doesn’t, conservative factions may take action to replace Ahmadinejad with Larijani as the carrier of the conservative banner in the 2009 presidential election. But such a move would be fraught with risk for the conservatives, as some view Larijani as less able to mobilize the nationalist/traditionalist voting bloc.
http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav061008.shtml

Not suprising since the Ahmadinejad dont know how economy works

Davoud Danesh-Jafari, Iran’s outgoing economy minister, today outlined the major challenges facing the country’s economy and slammed government officials, including President Ahmadinejad, who without any deep knowledge of the economy support policies that make the country’s economic situation even more bleak.

Danesh-Jafari made his harsh criticism during his farewell address at the ministry, a highly unusual step for a civil servant or a politician in Iran.

Danesh-Jafari identified the growing, and seemingly out-of-control, money supply and the resulting inflation rate as the major economic challenge facing Iran.

Danesh-Jafari said last year Iran oil exports brought in $61 billion. The petro-dollars were converted into rials to meet the government’s budget expenditures, with the money supply reaching levels that naturally produces high inflation. Danesh-Jafari voiced concern that government officials did not understand the relation between the money supply and the inflation and insisted in printing ever more rials.

“Do not worry about the money supply,” the officials told Danesh-Jafari.

The problem is that the money supply is on the rise at a whooping 35-40% annually. When the additional money is not used to create goods, but to purchase what goods are available, then the price of those goods go up. Danesh-Jafari had a tough time as the country’s minister of economy to convince officials of this simple casual relation.

Danesh-Jafari also criticized Ahmadinejad for creating hostile relations between the government and the Majlis, the Expediency Council, the IRIB (Radio/TV), the newspapers, his rivals in the last presidential election, his potential rival in the future Majlis, and with certain individuals. He paints an administration with a limited knowledge of the economy and an administration with a siege mentality.
http://uskowioniran.blogspot.com/2008/04/outgoing-economy-minister-on-irans.html

Sabzweb
06-11-2008, 07:58 PM
As I had said on several occasions, Ahmadinejad's days are numbered. He knows this as well, which is why he's not going out without a bang, his allies have become so desperate that they're openly accruing every top IRI official or ayatollah who is not close to Ahmadinejad of corruption.

Scandal as ally of Ahmadinejad acccuses old guard of corruption (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4107326.ece)

A close ally of President Ahmadinejad has accused 44 leading members of the Iran’s old guard of corruption, among them several prominent ayatollahs.

The unprecedented accusations are seen as a daring challenge to Iran’s ruling establishment by the intensely ambitious president as he strives to secure more power for himself and his office.

The incendiary “disclosures” were made by Abbas Palizar, a member of a parliamentary investigative committee into corruption. In a speech to students at Hamedan University in western Iran this month, he denounced the country’s judiciary as the “centre of economic corruption”, according to reports from Tehran.

Some Iranian newspapers have touched on the scandal without naming names but it is receiving far wider coverage on Iranian news websites. A video of Mr Palizar’s speech, in which he identified allegedly corrupt officials and clerics, has been posted on the internet by Hamedan University students .

He accused many of the President’s opponents in the conservative camp, some of them Mr Ahmadinejad’s former allies, of exploiting the country’s wealth for their own benefit. Mr Palizar said that Iran’s natural resources, such as timber in the Caspian region, had been plundered, and factories sold off at bargain-basement prices to regime insiders. He also alleged that judges and influential organisations had acquired hundreds of new, Iranian-made cars at knock-down prices.
Mr Palizar told of a senior cleric who won government support to found a hospital to take care of his disabled son and then allegedly secured four very profitable mining concessions to finance the venture.

Whether true or not, most Iranians are likely to believe the corruption allegations, which will put Mr Ahmadinejad’s rivals on the defensive.
Some analysts see the allegations as an implicit challenge to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s Supreme Leader. Others believe Mr Ahmadinejad would not dare embarrass Ayatollah Khamenei, who they suspect has allowed the debate to go public in order to play rival wings in the conservative camp against each other.

When Mr Ahmadinejad, the son of a humble blacksmith, ran for the presidency three years ago, he portrayed himself as an incorruptible man of the common people. He posed as a Robin Hood-figure who would tackle cronyism, corruption and nepotism and give the poor a fairer share of Iran’s oil wealth.

He is reviving that challenge to the old elite and its vested interests now as his conservative rivals attack his mishandling of the economy: inflation and unemployment are soaring.

Professor Gary Sick, an Iran expert at Columbia University in New York, said that commentators were mistakenly writing off Mr Ahmadinejad in next year’s presidential elections. “He is a ferocious competitor, an edgy populist who wins the hearts of his lumpenproletariat countrymen even while he is demolishing the economy, and a supremely ambitious politician who is a threat to the entire post-revolutionary establishment,” Prof Sick told The Times.

Mr Palizar told of another ayatollah who applied to build a law faculty for women in the holy city of Qom and asked for the ownership of a tyre factory to finance it. He allegedly bought the factory at a tiny fraction of its real value and then sold it on the stock market.

sinophile
06-12-2008, 12:06 AM
Iran is going nuclear and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Just thought I'd toss that into the ring.

Calanen
06-12-2008, 12:11 AM
Iran is going nuclear and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Just thought I'd toss that into the ring.


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Nothing you say.....

sinophile
06-12-2008, 12:35 AM
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Nothing you say.....

Israel doesn't have the capability. There's been many threads on the subject. Even if they had the means, the repercussions aren't worth it. Deterrence against first use is all that's left. Its a draw.

Say a prayer the Iranians can keep the materials and weapons under lock and key.

Oh, and those wild weasels's are useless too.

Hilbert
06-12-2008, 12:38 AM
Israel doesn't have the capability. There's been many threads on the subject. Even if they had the means, the repercussions aren't worth it. Deterrence against first use is all that's left. Its a draw.

While I have no real proof in the matter, I sincerely doubt that Israel lacks tha "capability" as you put it.

-Hilde

Lambert58
06-12-2008, 12:58 AM
Israel doesn't have the capability. There's been many threads on the subject. Even if they had the means, the repercussions aren't worth it. Deterrence against first use is all that's left. Its a draw.

Say a prayer the Iranians can keep the materials and weapons under lock and key.

Oh, and those wild weasels's are useless too.


I'm thinking the "repercussion" of survival is always "worth it."

Lt-Col A. Tack
06-12-2008, 01:06 AM
Israel doesn't have the capability.

For a strike against Iran? I think the Israelis on this board would beg to differ.

Delay is more likely a result of complex diplomatic, strategic, and economic calculations.

Winger
06-12-2008, 10:05 AM
Israel doesn't have the capability. There's been many threads on the subject. Even if they had the means, the repercussions aren't worth it. Deterrence against first use is all that's left. Its a draw.

Say a prayer the Iranians can keep the materials and weapons under lock and key.

Oh, and those wild weasels's are useless too.

And what happened in Syria not to long ago? Or, Iraq in the early 80's.

Whats funny is the oil price has gone up a few times now due to speculators because of Iranian "hostility". The government has openly threatened war multiple times.

Yet, when Israel says one thing one time about potentially striking Iran, the price goes up like it never has before. Goes to show you who is talk and who has substance.

Pars
06-12-2008, 10:15 AM
Funny how quickly this thread derailed. Nice work... So much for an intelligent discussion.

Winger
06-12-2008, 10:38 AM
Not derailed but related to the subject. Impending strikes and fear of pre-emptive assault has many in Iran placing a lot of pressure on Ahmad.

Pars
06-12-2008, 10:42 AM
Not derailed but related to the subject. Impending strikes and fear of pre-emptive assault has many in Iran placing a lot of pressure on Ahmad.

Read the earlier comments one more time buddy. Statements regarding Israeli capabilities and probabilities of an Iranian Nuke is not the same as you just wrote.

So yes, derailed.

Ariha
06-12-2008, 10:49 AM
Israel doesn't have the capability.



I absolutely agree, and the Iranian should conduct themselves according to this assessment. But somehow they don´t.

Snoshi
06-12-2008, 10:49 AM
Oh fk.. Can we stay on topic?

Tareece
06-12-2008, 02:25 PM
Read the earlier comments one more time buddy. Statements regarding Israeli capabilities and probabilities of an Iranian Nuke is not the same as you just wrote.

So yes, derailed.

So, instead of further derailing it...put forth some re-railing, insightful, and particularly impressive counter argument....Like...

Iran is full of people that are interested in living in a peaceful world, where they envision their children being the next Bill Gates or Warren Buffet. Where their childrens dreams of a better life or fulfilling their most precious of dreams can be accomplished.
These people far outweigh the ruling party and are only waiting for the "revolution" to run its course and then hope for a more modern course for their proud country and the world.

There.

Pars
06-12-2008, 02:44 PM
So, instead of further derailing it...put forth some re-railing, insightful, and particularly impressive counter argument....Like...

Iran is full of people that are interested in living in a peaceful world, where they envision their children being the next Bill Gates or Warren Buffet. Where their childrens dreams of a better life or fulfilling their most precious of dreams can be accomplished.
These people far outweigh the ruling party and are only waiting for the "revolution" to run its course and then hope for a more modern course for their proud country and the world.

There.

Nice post, I enjoyed it - even though it was filled with clichés p-)

It's no surprise that Ahmadinejad is facing growing internal dissent within the establishment. His cabinet has brought incompetence to a whole new level with their bad decisions. And that says a lot when we know what kind of economic disaster the Islamic Republic has been for the last 30 years.

Larijani will only lessen the constant idiotic statements, but as long as the IR survives in its current form, not much will change in the domestic politics.

LEB101
06-12-2008, 03:07 PM
Funny how quickly this thread derailed. Nice work... So much for an intelligent discussion.
when one person says something about iran you make is a derailed thread . the second you posted the thread became derailed . the thread is about iran . so we talk about iran what you want us to talk about . what ahmadinajad was wearing to days ago :hug::hug:

Nansouty
06-12-2008, 03:56 PM
Larijani will only lessen the constant idiotic statements, but as long as the IR survives in its current form, not much will change in the domestic politics.

Certainly, IMO. This said, I'm somewhat surprised not to see Rafsandjani's name quoted in this article. Is he so far out of touch from Khamenei that Larjani's substuted as Amahdinejad's rival? Oh, and interesting insight on Amahdinejad's populist side. This guy is playing with matches, he might end up setting the regime on fire.

Pars
06-12-2008, 04:24 PM
Certainly, IMO. This said, I'm somewhat surprised not to see Rafsandjani's name quoted in this article. Is he so far out of touch from Khamenei that Larjani's substuted as Amahdinejad's rival?

Rafsanjani is one of the richest and most powerful men in Iran right now. I don't think he's too much on Khamenei bad side, after all he is a pragmatic conservative. I think his willingness to talk directly to the US has given him enemies within the halls of power.

Tareece
06-12-2008, 05:44 PM
Rafsanjani is one of the richest and most powerful men in Iran right now. I don't think he's too much on Khamenei bad side, after all he is a pragmatic conservative. I think his willingness to talk directly to the US has given him enemies within the halls of power.

I was pretty encouraged by Rafsanjani's moderation during his tenure....But am I correct in my assumption (which I know the meaning of) that the President is just working for the Supreme Leader and he alone truly controls the policy strings of the nation?

Pars
06-13-2008, 03:03 PM
I was pretty encouraged by Rafsanjani's moderation during his tenure....But am I correct in my assumption (which I know the meaning of) that the President is just working for the Supreme Leader and he alone truly controls the policy strings of the nation?

The President can influence and somewhat control the domestic policies of the nation. But he is completly powerless in military and foreign issues. Those powers lie in the hand of Supreme Leader.

Snoshi
06-22-2008, 01:24 PM
TEHRAN (*******) - An Iranian newspaper has been banned after carrying articles critical of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's economic policies, the state Press TV satellite station said on its website.

A government media body revoked the license of Tehran Emrooz on Saturday, Press TV said.

It said the newspaper was launched 18 months ago and was seen as being close to Tehran Mayor Mohammed Baqer Qalibaf, a conservative who analysts say is a potential rival of Ahmadinejad in next year's presidential election.

Tehran Emrooz's publisher was summoned to a court on Sunday to answer charges of "printing pictures and editorial material insulting to the president and propagation of lies with the intention of agitating public opinion", Fars News Agency said.

The daily last week published a special issue on the third anniversary of Ahmadinejad's election that included articles criticizing the government's economic record, Press TV said.

The daily's editorial board acknowledged in a statement on Sunday it had gone beyond fair criticism of the government and issued an apology, the official IRNA news agency said.

"We declare (that the special issue) ... was devoid of a fair and moderate stance, and the daily's editorial board hereby apologizes to the government officials ... ," IRNA quoted the board's statement as saying.

Ahmadinejad, who came to power in 2005 on a pledge to share Iran's oil wealth more fairly, has come under mounting criticism from parliament, the media and the public over a failure to rein in inflation now running at around 25 percent annually.

Although Iran says it allows free speech, journalists say they have to tread carefully to avoid being closed down.
Earlier this month, Fars was shut down for three days, accused of publishing "lies" about the possible dismissal of the central bank governor, one of its editors said.

Since 2000, Iran has closed more than 100 publications, accusing many of being "pawns of the West". Many subsequently reopened under different names.
http://www.*******.com/article/worldNews/idUSDAH22263220080622?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

Moti
06-22-2008, 02:33 PM
I don't know if any of you heard of this but in 1985, the IAF attack the base of the Palestine Liberation Organization in Tunisia.

That a distance of 1600 kilometers from israel

MG 3
06-22-2008, 02:47 PM
Snoshi (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=12443) dude you post an article almost every day about Nijad but when are you folks going to blow up his ****ter while he's taking a dump? Cause somebody needs to prove that he no hero.