Know at the end of the movie Black Hawk Down...

[Sierra]

when they are closing up the plane with the coffins then giving all the facts on who died and what not. There was a poem or a letter sent home in the back ground from a dad to his wife saying, Tell My Children I love them and That i will Be ok and when you tuck them into bed tonight, given them a kiss goodnight from daddy. If anyone knows where I could find the words from that thatd b great!

Thanks! :)

[LAPD 85]

Its just made up. :roll:

[Wilco]

I'm recording it right now.

[Vance]

Its just made up. :roll:
Why don't you be a bitch about it? :roll:

[mocking_loudly_died]

Its just made up. :roll:

Is it?

On an interview with ridly scott in Australia he said it was a letter found after the operation. Author unknown.

[StarvingStudent47]

Its just made up. :roll:

So was For Whom the Bell Tolls, and yet some people still find it interesting to read...

[Wilco]

Almost

[Sierra]

Its just made up. :roll:i didnt ask if it was real or not. i asked if i could find the lyrics anywhere. :roll: :bash:

[Wilco]

Ahh, here it is.

http://akurt.homedns.org/wilco/ending.wav

[NcDeuce]

It's been a while since I've watched the movie or looked at the book but if I'm not mistaken, the voice belongs to the character who plays SFC Randy Shughart.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8418/BHD-OPORD3.JPG

Whether it's fictional or something taken from his death letter, I cannot recall.

[Sierra]

Ahh, here it is.

http://akurt.homedns.org/wilco/ending.wavThanks a lot!

[Wilco]

No problem, anytime.

[Sierra]

It's been a while since I've watched the movie or looked at the book but if I'm not mistaken, the voice belongs to the character who plays SFC Randy Shughart.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8418/BHD-OPORD3.JPG

Whether it's fictional or something taken from his death letter, I cannot recall.hmmm. thats interesting thanx. It is very sad. :(

[Wilco]

It is, it brought tears to my eyes in the movie theatres.



R.I.P to the 18

[Sierra]

It is, it brought tears to my eyes in the movie theatres.



R.I.P to the 18AMEN. May they R.I.P. :(

Hearing him say goodbye to his kids and his wife is very sad. :(

[Wilco]

Yeah, you know what he means as soon as he says that.


I think I'm going to make a slideshow about the timeline of Operation Gothic Serpent.

[Sierra]

Yeah, you know what he means as soon as he says that.


I think I'm going to make a slideshow about the timeline of Operation Gothic Serpent.ya if u do send it to me. or if u need help ask me cause i may b able to.

were ther 18 or 19 killed?

cause i have sene both.

but its really 19 right?

[NcDeuce]

Yeah, you know what he means as soon as he says that.


I think I'm going to make a slideshow about the timeline of Operation Gothic Serpent.ya if u do send it to me. or if u need help ask me cause i may b able to.

were ther 18 or 19 killed?

cause i have sene both.

but its really 19 right?

160th SOAR
CW4 Raymond A. Frank
CW4 Clifton P. Wolcott
CW3 Donovan L. Briley
SSG Thomas J. Field
SSG William D. Cleveland

Delta Force
MSG Gary Gordon
MSG Timothy Martin
SFC Earl Fillmore
SFC Matthew Rierson (died in a mortar attack following the battle)
SFC Randy Shughart
SSG Daniel Busch

75th Ranger Regiment
SGT James Joyce
SGT Lorenzo Ruiz
SGT Dominick Pilla
CPL James Cavaco
CPL James Smith
PFC Richard Kowalewski

10th Mountain
SGT Cornell Houston
PFC James Martin

[Sierra]

why have i seen 18 before? hmmm. maybe some dont count the guy killed in the mortar attack :|

and ive always wondered if anyone fron the 10th mtn was killed. 2 of em huh? (Those were the people on the final resuce mission. correct?)
sad

RIP :(

[Tane Angle]

There were actually dozen US personnel killed in Somalia. 18 gave their lives during that operation, and Matt died shortly afterwards, but there were others, including an AC-130 crew, Larry Freedman, and several 101st troops.

Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[SEALInTheMaking]

18 were killed on the mission itself, the 19th was killed in the mortar attack shortly after, so its very common to see both.

im pretty sure the monologue at the end is supposed to be Shughart. if you remember, there's a part just before the battle where he calls home. watched the movie again the other night, ive quit trying to watch the part with Shughart and Gordon, gets me every time.

[M1A2U2]

Is it true at the end that hoot goes back out to retrieve the bodies? I heard that operation was kept under the blanket but i heard they killed hundreds of somalis

[Sierra]

18 were killed on the mission itself, the 19th was killed in the mortar attack shortly after, so its very common to see both.

im pretty sure the monologue at the end is supposed to be Shughart. if you remember, there's a part just before the battle where he calls home. watched the movie again the other night, ive quit trying to watch the part with Shughart and Gordon, gets me every time.That was Shughart that calls home at the beginning. OMG! I never knew that.
Wow. His wife never heard from him again. WOW!

:(

[Hman123]

THE LETTER IS NOT FICTIONAL.....The saying at the end of the movie was taken from parts of an actual death letter that Randy Shugart wrote to his wife and children. Ive seen the whole thing and the movie only shows some of it.

[molly747]

THE LETTER IS NOT FICTIONAL.....The saying at the end of the movie was taken from parts of an actual death letter that Randy Shugart wrote to his wife and children. Ive seen the whole thing and the movie only shows some of it.

Actually, it was Gary Gordon. Randy Shugart and his wife had no children (though they planned to start one after he returned :(

For anyone asking question, READ THE BOOK. It is a really great read. It's so well-written, it reads like fiction, very smooth. It will anwer all your questions about the movie. And when you're done, read 'Killing Pablo,' too.

[FRO]

For anyone asking question, READ THE BOOK. It is a really great read. It's so well-written, it reads like fiction, very smooth. It will anwer all your questions about the movie. And when you're done, read 'Killing Pablo,' too.

Yes, the book is amazing. Great read. Literally could not put it down. Stayed up until 4 in the morning to read the end. Had to get up at 6 to go to work. Needless to say, not the most productive day on record.

I've seen Killing Pablo in book stores and I've considered buying it but I never did. Is it similar in structure to BHD? I would assume the writing is similar . . .

[shrek]

Yes, it was Gordon.

If I have a hero that I worship, it is either of those guys. They are, of course, legendary in the SF community. I have shot at their range, trained at CQB in their house and eaten chow in their dining facility. They showed what two men, with the right training and sized balls can do in a bad situation.


Before I left, I wrote a letter (death letter they call it) to my kids and wife. Wow, did that put things in perspective. Just sit down and think about what you want to say to those you love, knowing that it is the last words of yours that they will ever see. Your day will take on a whole new meaning. Just my 2c

[scm77]

THE LETTER IS NOT FICTIONAL.....The saying at the end of the movie was taken from parts of an actual death letter that Randy Shugart wrote to his wife and children. Ive seen the whole thing and the movie only shows some of it.

Indeed it's where the guy says, "I'm not taking no death letters." "We've got a deal" or something to that extent. :(

[molly747]

For anyone asking question, READ THE BOOK. It is a really great read. It's so well-written, it reads like fiction, very smooth. It will anwer all your questions about the movie. And when you're done, read 'Killing Pablo,' too.

Yes, the book is amazing. Great read. Literally could not put it down. Stayed up until 4 in the morning to read the end. Had to get up at 6 to go to work. Needless to say, not the most productive day on record.

I've seen Killing Pablo in book stores and I've considered buying it but I never did. Is it similar in structure to BHD? I would assume the writing is similar . . .

I read that sucker (BHD) in 2 days. I literally read it in 2 sittings.

'Killing Pablo' is by the same author (Bowden), so it's a similar structure. He really fleshes the people out. Bowden is a terrific writer. As a writer myself, I really admire him.
For really cheap, quality books, go to http://www.bookfinder.com/
Used and new books for super super cheap. Just like Amazon, only cheaper. :)

[molly747]

THE LETTER IS NOT FICTIONAL.....The saying at the end of the movie was taken from parts of an actual death letter that Randy Shugart wrote to his wife and children. Ive seen the whole thing and the movie only shows some of it.

Indeed it's where the guy says, "I'm not taking no death letters." "We've got a deal" or something to that extent. :(

Actually, that's Ruiz, a Ranger. Gordon was the Delta Operator shot down protecting the downed helo.

[Sierra]

For anyone asking question, READ THE BOOK. It is a really great read. It's so well-written, it reads like fiction, very smooth. It will anwer all your questions about the movie. And when you're done, read 'Killing Pablo,' too.

Yes, the book is amazing. Great read. Literally could not put it down. Stayed up until 4 in the morning to read the end. Had to get up at 6 to go to work. Needless to say, not the most productive day on record.

I've seen Killing Pablo in book stores and I've considered buying it but I never did. Is it similar in structure to BHD? I would assume the writing is similar . . .

I read that sucker (BHD) in 2 days. I literally read it in 2 sittings.

'Killing Pablo' is by the same author (Bowden), so it's a similar structure. He really fleshes the people out. Bowden is a terrific writer. As a writer myself, I really admire him.
For really cheap, quality books, go to http://www.bookfinder.com/
Used and new books for super super cheap. Just like Amazon, only cheaper. :)I just got home and I bought Killing Pablo at Barnes and Noble. Cant wait to start reading it.

[Wilco]

Give me some nice shots that pertain to Operation Gothic Serpent and I'll start on it.

IE:
Shots from the movie Blackhawk Down
Blackhawks
Militia
Delta/Rangers/SOAR

[Sierra]

Give me some nice shots that pertain to Operation Gothic Serpent and I'll start on it.

IE:
Shots from the movie Blackhawk Down
Blackhawks
Militia
Delta/Rangers/SOARok. i am writin an essay for English (i may have 2 to write) but ill look for some here and there and after.

[NcDeuce]

Give me some nice shots that pertain to Operation Gothic Serpent and I'll start on it.

IE:
Shots from the movie Blackhawk Down
Blackhawks
Militia
Delta/Rangers/SOARok. i am writin an essay for English (i may have 2 to write) but ill look for some here and there and after.

I used to keep a couple of cool PowerPoint presentations w/ tons of pics and audio files but I can't find them. :|

[Wilco]

I'll take some pictures from the movie, get some good audio also.


If possible, could someone send me Gortoz A Ran over MSN?

[NcDeuce]

I'll take some pictures from the movie, get some good audio also.

You'll be able to find some of the actual radio transmissions online.



THE LETTER IS NOT FICTIONAL.....The saying at the end of the movie was taken from parts of an actual death letter that Randy Shugart wrote to his wife and children. Ive seen the whole thing and the movie only shows some of it.

Actually, it was Gary Gordon. Randy Shugart and his wife had no children (though they planned to start one after he returned :(

For anyone asking question, READ THE BOOK. It is a really great read. It's so well-written, it reads like fiction, very smooth. It will anwer all your questions about the movie. And when you're done, read 'Killing Pablo,' too.

Defnitely. Stephanie Shughart's letter is also very powerful. I cried the first time I read it...

12 November 1993

Dear Mike,

I know that Wednesday evening was as difficult for you as it was for each of us. You will never know how much it meant to me to see you face to face and give you a hug. There are so many things I would like to tell you and ask you but I don't want to cause you any more pain or suffering.

When I thanked you for giving Randy's death a purpose I meant it. It is not meant to detract from the bravery or heroism of the others that died, however, I can look at you and talk to you and see that his efforts were not in vain. Perhaps your wife can explain to you what I'm sure she too experienced during those days. When you are a wife in this situation the global and political picture pales and you concentrate only on the one you love and what his immediate isolated situation is. Many people may not understand my feelings and indeed it is difficult to express them accurately. But I am going to try to express them to you.

I want you to know that because of your bravery and refusal to give up while captured I can sleep at night. Your refusal to be defeated and give up was as brave an act as Randy's. Had you given up I would have never known for sure exactly what happened to him. I can live with the fact of knowing he died to save another man rather than had he died from a random bullet shot from a hidden source. If you knew Randy you would know that he was a very quiet and unselfish man. He always put others first and therefore it is fitting and appropriate that he died the way he did. Randy truly loved what he did and had God given him the choice of how to die I know in my heart he would have chosen to go down just as he did. I also know that had Randy been injured in a helicopter you would have piloted a helicopter in to save him no matter how dangerous the situation was.

I don't ever want you to question why you lived and Randy and the others with you did not. You lived to come back and give me some peace of mind to what would have been an otherwise unexplainable situation. You are a living reminder and testament of what the Delta soldiers and those that work with them are all about. The squadron can look to you and know what the beliefs they have and the oath they swear to are valid. Randy and Gordy were not alone when they tried to rescue you. They carried a lot of insight, knowledge and strength from each mate they had ever worked with inside of them.

I want you to enjoy your life and be happy. Look back with pride not sorrow. Just as Randy fought to save you, you fought and did not give up, perhaps not knowing you were fighting to save me...from a tortured mind and heart.

Sincerely,
Stephanie Shughart

[Sierra]

I'll take some pictures from the movie, get some good audio also.

You'll be able to find some of the actual radio transmissions online.



THE LETTER IS NOT FICTIONAL.....The saying at the end of the movie was taken from parts of an actual death letter that Randy Shugart wrote to his wife and children. Ive seen the whole thing and the movie only shows some of it.

Actually, it was Gary Gordon. Randy Shugart and his wife had no children (though they planned to start one after he returned :(

For anyone asking question, READ THE BOOK. It is a really great read. It's so well-written, it reads like fiction, very smooth. It will anwer all your questions about the movie. And when you're done, read 'Killing Pablo,' too.

Defnitely. Stephanie Shughart's letter is also very powerful. I cried the first time I read it...

Wow. Thats so sad. When I looked at the date before I read it I was like, O! Nov., after he was killed. I thought she was writing s letter to hom to ease the pain but when I saw Mike, I was like, HUH, ooo, Mike Durant, But that letter is very moving

:(

[FRO]

Defnitely. Stephanie Shughart's letter is also very powerful. I cried the first time I read it...

I made the mistake of reading it. I'm at work. I'm tearing up. Jesus but she's a perfect match for a hero. I simply can't imagine making that kind of sense from the death of a loved one. That is fortitude and bravery.

Thanks for sharing, NcDeuce.

[Minjin]

Never seen the letter before. Thanks for posting it, it is indeed a moving thing to read.