Jungle Fatigues

[Burch]

Moderator can close this thread, goodbye.

[Laconian]

OK, I'll bite...How is it that you have a CIB second award and are still an E-5. Also, the Air Assault Badge wasn't authorized for wear until early 1978 (Jan 18, '78 to be exact), although the 101st ABN (AA) was sporting it since April '74 - long after the 101st returned to Campbell from RVN in '72.

If you truly are an 11B, you would know how goofy it is to be a PX Ranger sewing patches and badges and tabs on uniforms that you didn't earn. As a museum piece, the jungle blouse pictured lack authenticity.

[Beowulf]

....It's a toyota

[Burch]

Okay **** this hostility, jesus. Goodbye.

[Burch]

IS it really worth railing me for? Its not at all impossible for someone who is "just an e-5" to have a C.I.B second award. How dare you call me a px ranger seeing as I recieved every patch on here except for the e-5 chevrons from vets. You need to get a grip on life seriously, grow up and stop acting like a know it all 12 year old.

[Britboy]

Apologies for butting in, but why is a Sgt having done two tours in this context implausible?

And why do US troops often wear 2 Divisional badges? Is the troopy who owns the shirt pictured in the Cavalry or the 1st Inf?

And why an Air Assault badge when all light troops could use helicopters to air assault into an area?

Hope these arent too dumb questions

Cheers
BB

[Dispatcher]

@Burch;

Thank you, your response has brightened an otherwise dull day.


Carry on.

[Burch]

Apologies for butting in, but why is a Sgt having done two tours in this context implausible?

And why do US troops often wear 2 Divisional badges? Is the troopy who owns the shirt pictured in the Cavalry or the 1st Inf?

And why an Air Assault badge when all light troops could use helicopters to air assault into an area?

Hope these arent too dumb questions

Cheers
BB

Answers: Because the gentleman above (if he was ever in) was probably an officer and doesn't realize that em's, and noncoms actually do most of the work.

The reason for the combat patches in Vietnam were as follows. Say the jacket in my case, left shoulder is the unit that they are in currently, while right shoulder is the unit that they were with on a previous tour. Nowadays, a combat patch is earned by serving 30 or more days with another unit or under their command.

The air assault badge (which I guess is unauthorized material) is supposed to go with the Air Cavalry patch seeing as how they were all airmobile at the beginning of the war and I reenact 1969.

Hope I could help,

Mike

[hank]

Burch, Laconian is a mod, a former officer, and otherwise an all around good guy. Please show a little respect. You asked a question and got an answer you didn't like. End of story.

But continuing to post like this will likely get you banned. I'd suggest you delete your smartass posts ASAP and apologize. Otherwise you are setting yourself for a heartbreak.

I'm just trying to give friendly advice. Please take it.

hank

[Burch]

nah, I will just get deleted. Every time I try to post something its always getting reamed for something. And I was right about him being an officer. GO ahead, ban me from an online forum where people can be ten feet tall and bulletproof behind the computer. I'm not taking **** anymore.

[Britboy]

Cheers, makes some more sense.

Just seems unusual having air assault as a qual (I take it its a qual as its where eg pilots wings, submariners dolphins etc would be worn) when just about anyone without heavy vehicles (esp light infantry) can hop onto a helo to attack into an area. Unless there was actually an air assault course to be passed, like parachute troops do a jumps course?

Also I can see how there can be a BIG attachment to former units deployed with, but don't troops often spend a long time in one unit, hence not getting their extra patch, whereas troops who have moved around more do get one? Plus all these different patches would be interesting for uniformity on the paradeground...

Didnt understand really how it was implausible that a Sgt could have toured twice, but then again I imagine the situ now and then is different - there would've been a lot more Cold War troops eg in Germany, to rotate through, and so perhaps mean time between tours was actually longer...

Regards
BB

[Burch]

Yeah, I will probably end up taking it off. But its not unusual to have a Sgt. do more than one tour. One of my friends who was in the 25th ID did three and was only an E-6. All you had to do was volunteer for another tour and if they were short handed, usually you would get it. Well, nice talking to you becuase im probably getting banned, cya.

Mike

[hank]

nah, I will just get deleted. Every time I try to post something its always getting reamed for something. And I was right about him being an officer. GO ahead, ban me from an online forum where people can be ten feet tall and bulletproof behind the computer. I'm not taking **** anymore.

Suit yourself. I was just trying to ask you to calm down in a friendly way. Guess that was a waste of time.

I'm not banning anyone its not my job.

hank

[California Joe]

IS it really worth railing me for? Its not at all impossible for someone who is "just an e-5" to have a C.I.B second award. How dare you call me a px ranger seeing as I recieved every patch on here except for the e-5 chevrons from vets. You need to get a grip on life seriously, grow up and stop acting like a know it all 12 year old.

He can call you anything he wants, he's not some dink that dresses up and takes pictures of himself in his Moms cellar pretending it's a VC tunnel you annoying prick.

And as was pointed out correctly before, your authentic, from actual Vets, uniform that you pieced together is historically innacurate.

[Laconian]

IS it really worth railing me for? Its not at all impossible for someone who is "just an e-5" to have a C.I.B second award. How dare you call me a px ranger seeing as I recieved every patch on here except for the e-5 chevrons from vets. You need to get a grip on life seriously, grow up and stop acting like a know it all 12 year old.

1. You posted a picture and asked for input. I'm not railing, I merely pointed out there are some inconsistencies in the way articles were attached to the blouse.

2. The second award for the CIB would have meant infantry service in either WWII or Korea + a tour in RVN, not just multiple tours in the RVN. Hence it would have been very unlikely to have served in WWII, and/or Korea the RVN and still be an E-5.

3. I have a pretty firm grip on life. Your snide comment about officers not doing any work is, quite frankly, a crock of shyte. I lead/commanded infantry platoons and a company. Like most officers I never asked my troops to do anything I wasn't able to do myself and to the standard I wanted it done. That's not braggadocios, its fact. The ribbing that took/takes place between an NCO and his officers, is just that: good-natured ribbing among professionals. You and I don't share that relationship.

4. I never said you were a PX ranger, I said if you were an 11B you know how goofy PX rangers are to sew insignia on their uniforms that they didn't earn.

5. I did not think my tone, often missed in written word, was offensive. Have the best day ever.

[Britboy]

Ah, I see. I thought that two CIBs = two tours. Didnt realise it had to be two theatres or two different wars.

Cheers for clearing that up.

Regards
BB

[Beowulf]

Yeah, I will probably end up taking it off. But its not unusual to have a Sgt. do more than one tour. One of my friends who was in the 25th ID did three and was only an E-6. All you had to do was volunteer for another tour and if they were short handed, usually you would get it. Well, nice talking to you becuase im probably getting banned, cya.

Mike


Multiple tours doesn't qualify you for multiplle awards of the CIB.

Quit being a knob-head.

I called it earlier.

[Beowulf]

Okay **** this hostility, jesus. Goodbye.

I'm gonna comment on this, if you were my troop, and you were really that thin-skinned. I would ensure that you had a tough time until you were thick-skinned. There is no time for that kinda prissy BS.

Have a great day Suzy.

edit: custom user title awarded, thank you Dr. Cox

[Pete031]

You know what Chopper always says:

Harden the fvck up Suzy.

[digrar]

if you were my troop, and you were really that thin-skinned. I would ensure that you had a tough time until you were thick-skinned.

We spent 5 months in Timor ripping the piss out of one of our sensitive souls. Finally got a thick skin and a sense of humour instilled in him. He wasn't a bad bloke after that.

[Hollis]

We spent 5 months in Timor ripping the piss out of one of our sensitive souls. Finally got a thick skin and a sense of humour instilled in him. He wasn't a bad bloke after that.


One of the reasons boot camp should be hell. Some guys thought their DIs where too hard. After a week in Viet-Nam, they felt their DIs where not hard enough.


Josephus stated, "Roman military practices where bloodless battles and battles where bloody practices." or something like that.