UN tells Britain to dump the Queen.

[Mu-Meson]

Well, maybe not quite, but they do want a referendum on it. And a written constitution, preferably republican mind you. So here we have Cuba calling for a free and fair election, Saudi Arabia criticizing the British monarchy, and Iran complaining about ****** discrimination in Britain. FFS! This "human rights council" should just be dissolved. What an absolute f**king farce.



The UN Human Rights Council said the UK must "consider holding a referendum on the desirability or otherwise of a written constitution, preferably republican".
The council has 29 members including Saudi Arabia, Cuba and Sri Lanka.
......
The UN report was also critical of the UK's treatment of immigrants from Sudan.
Syrian representatives accused the UK of discriminating against Muslims and Iran complained about the UK's record on tackling ****** discrimination.


http://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/2122182/Britain-should-get-rid-of-the-monarchy,-says-UN.html

I hope Britain says to the HRC, "Go Eff yourselves". In diplo-speak of course.

[Laworkerbee]

I really hope Western funds do not end up financing this council in any way, its a sad joke.

[Lazy Lob]

Peter Tatchell is probably crying with laughter. Yarp.

[Moledet]

How else are they going to divert the attention from the massacres in Darfur if not by ridiculous statements such as these?

[Adux]

I have always respected British Monarchy, it would be sad for the people of britain if they do away with creators of Imperial Britain, the greatest yet on the face of this world. This coming from an Indian, whose country has been at the recieving end of this nation. That said, that is history, and will be the till man exist.

[Britboy]

Do they not understand that various court rulings on test cases already act as a de facto British constitution?

I think it is laughable what some of these nations are saying. Still, I suppose its easier to sling accusations at GB than it is to resolve the injustices in your own society.

I wonder when it is our turn to say whatever we please in this council?

Regards
BB

[LEB101]

just another way for syria and iran to annoy the world

[rajkhalsa]

I have always respected British Monarchy, it would be sad for the people of britain if they do away with creators of Imperial Britain, the greatest yet on the face of this world. This coming from an Indian, whose country has been at the recieving end of this nation. That said, that is history, and will be the till man exist.
As someone of Indian origin, I disagree. Calling something the 'best monarchy ever' is like saying 'nicest rapist in the world'; its still the best of an inferior political system.

Apart from the tourism-related economic benefits of the queen, it seems like the whole institution is pretty useless.

But, I'm not British. It's up to them to decide.

[Mr.Flint]

Wow, this is as good as Monty Pythons "No one expects the Spanish Inqusition" skit...


The UN report was also critical of the UK's treatment of immigrants from Sudan.
Oh the irony of UNHRC criticizing a country that takes Sudanese refugees... after all the should just die in Darfur, not live and thrive in England:roll:


Syrian representatives accused the UK of discriminating against Muslims
Isnt Syria is a violently secular country? Oh wait i forgot, its non of foreigners business... You Brits should be ashamed of yourself.... rofl
Hey Ex-Stab how do ya like the pill? p-)


Iran complained about the UK's record on tackling ****** discrimination.
:cantbeli:rofl
Iran?!!!!
Iran. Fvck yeahhh!!!




So after this "report" anyone still supports UNHRC on this forum? if you do you should be ashamed of yourself.p-)

[Lazy Lob]

Instability is at times the best form of democracy even if doesn’t appear to be so. Stability can be a form of stagnation which in turn leads to an “establishment”. A country governed by the elite for the elite that gives the perception of pluralism is so Logan’s Run.

[oldsoak]

Peter Tatchell is probably crying with laughter. Yarp.

- considering his ******ity, he might not welcome the opinions of some of the countries on that board. I dont think he'll welcome the opinions of countries where stoning to death is required for his ilk.

what a load of 'lox. :rofl:

Yep we'll have a referendum - "do we think the UNHRC - as it is currently - is worth listening to ? "

[Connaught Ranger]

Why use the title: "UN tells Britain to dump the Queen."

And then start your post off with the words . . . .

" Well, maybe not quite,. . . . " ???????????

[Calanen]

Just ignore it. It is designed to ignore putting their own houses in order, and shift the focus onto anything else. Many of the rogue states on this council never want to debate the real issues, too close to home. So they say, 'Oh, yeah...well what about you!' to shift the focus away from them. The only way to meet this tactic, is to doggedly focus on the correct issues - and just say 'This is ridiculous' and keep the spotlight back on them.

Uk has its own system. It may not be perfect, but, it is their system and can be changed or altered only at the urging of the British people. Not some joke of a committee at the UN.

[Adux]

As someone of Indian origin, I disagree. Calling something the 'best monarchy ever' is like saying 'nicest rapist in the world'; its still the best of an inferior political system.

Apart from the tourism-related economic benefits of the queen, it seems like the whole institution is pretty useless.

But, I'm not British. It's up to them to decide.

You didnt get my point, I dont consider any country holier than thou. As a country the monarchy has brought its people and nation glory, just because I was at the recieving end, it doesnt mean i shouldnt respect the sheer accomplishment, nobody is forgeting nor relieving britain of its rape, plundering, or jalinwalabagh. Tell me which nation history doesnt have muddy hands. I just pointed out the best part, from a british perspective, not from an Indian one.

[SniperLane]

http://www.jderose.com/images/austin_powers.gifYeah baby, yeah...

[Power_serj]

Saudi Arabia? LOL wtf? Saudi Arabia is run by kings and princeses, and Cuba is a friggin dictatorship. How about they make a deal. Saud Arabia and Cuba hold free elections, then Britain will run somekind of non-sense "exploratory committee" on dropping the Queen. rofl

[Col.O'neill]

Heres a thought maybe Britain could just tell the UN to shut there gob!

[California Joe]

Maybe Charles is behind this so the old broad will finally step down and give him his shot at it. :)

[Mu-Meson]

Why use the title: "UN tells Britain to dump the Queen."

And then start your post off with the words . . . .

" Well, maybe not quite,. . . . " ???????????

Because they might not have come out and explicitly said Britain should abolish the monarchy, but saying that a 'republican' consititution is preferable and calling for a referendum is only "not quite" the same thing.
And besides, I thought if I didn't put that qualifier in there, someone (like yourself) would complain in a post (similar to yours) about the thread title being misleading. Heads you lose, tails you lose, eh?

[STIG]

You didnt get my point, I dont consider any country holier than thou. As a country the monarchy has brought its people and nation glory, just because I was at the recieving end, it doesnt mean i shouldnt respect the sheer accomplishment, nobody is forgeting nor relieving britain of its rape, plundering, or jalinwalabagh. Tell me which nation history doesnt have muddy hands. I just pointed out the best part, from a british perspective, not from an Indian one.

X2. The Jews should learn from you.

[seraosha]

Wow, this topic has really brought out a side to some folks I didn't suspect.

[Power_serj]

What's the big deal about the monarchy? There are no real reasons to ditch it, and there are no reasons to keep it. If there was a vote to ditch it, I don't think it would change Britain a whole lot.

[PeterRJG]

"Saudi Arabia and Cuba should pay a little more attention to their own human rights record."

QFT.



Syrian representatives accused the UK of discriminating against Muslims and Iran complained about the UK's record on tackling ****** discrimination.

No wonder the US is reluctant to pay its UN dues. Seriously.

[Mr.Flint]

What's the big deal about the monarchy? There are no real reasons to ditch it, and there are no reasons to keep it. If there was a vote to ditch it, I don't think it would change Britain a whole lot.

Think of it like someone (UNHRC specifically) telling you that the Second Amendment have to go, because frankly speaking there is no real reasons to ditch it and no real reasons to keep it... Are you that certain that majority of Americans would vote to keep it, to risk a vote on that?

[Power_serj]

:cantbeli:You are comparing rights to a figurehead monarchy......apples and oranges.

[PeterRJG]

:cantbeli:You are comparing rights to a figurehead monarchy......apples and oranges.


BTW, there are reasons to get rid of it, and reasons to keep it.


You don't have the first clue how the UK works, do you? Figurehead, my ass. Get a clue Serj....in fact get a whole tribe of clues.

[Mr.Flint]

:cantbeli:You are comparing rights to a figurehead monarchy......apples and oranges.
You completely missed the point.

The issue of Monarchy to Brits is the same as Second Amendment to Americans. Clear now?

[Eztyga]

Good Lord!! Get rid of the Queen. I just spilled my tea from a fine china cup...

And my bloody monocle has rolled under the settee.

Ezy

[PeterRJG]

Get rid of the Queen, and it leaves the political systems of 16 other nations in the lurch. Including Australia. Without a monarch on the throne of the UK, Australia's Govt, at the federal and state level, has no legitimacy. Our constitution explicitly makes mention of the UK throne and we'd need to amend that *first* before the UK ditched Lilybet.

Because all federal politicians here serve at the pleasure of the Crown, as I think the wording is.

I'm pretty sure it'd leave Canada, New Zealand, Jamaica in the lurch as well.

I'm also fairly positive that Lilybet on the throne keeps the home countries together (maybe a Brit can correct me here). Without a monarchy, I'd say England, Scotland, etc, would go it alone, which would weaken the positions of the respective countries.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

:cantbeli:You are comparing rights to a figurehead monarchy......apples and oranges.

Figurehead?

What planet are you from.

[Power_serj]

:cantbeli:You guys are taking what I said out of context.

I never said that they should get rid of the monarchy, I was saying that it's ridiculous for this to even come up because it's not a big deal. However, yes, the monarchy is a figurehead. The monarchy is severly limited by the British Parliamnent.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

No the Parliament is severely limited by the Monarchy.

There is a thing called "Royal Prerogative"

[Power_serj]

de facto who is limited by whom?

(Please lets not derail this thread, it looked like it was going to get interesting....one person's figurehead is another person's powerful ruler...I guess.)

[Billy No Mates]

de facto who is limited by whom?

No one knows but it works....so were not about to let some tin pot dictators rock our rather spiffing boat....

[RJMC]

is this for real? cuz c'mon

cuba saying that they should have free elections?

saudi arabia criticizing kings?

iran saying they treat bad the women?

whats next? north korea saying is "too autorithary"?

sure if the UN make a critisism of those countryes they will consider it a offense and will leave the UN

[Moledet]

sure if the UN make a critisism of those countryes they will consider it a offense and will leave the UN
It's more simple than that, these countries simply remove anyone that oppose them from the Human Rights committee (talk about freedom of speech).
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/06/02/2008-06-02_unspeakable_hypocrisy.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhWgZu6tcZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCuEjN2vHLo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsKwfmaUfgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMRIKlZlYrw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGdzYiUlWC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-Jkf2EXNg

[Bia]

Royalty...
such an antiquated notion.


Princess Di.... pffffft

[Bia]

:cantbeli:You guys are taking what I said out of context.

I never said that they should get rid of the monarchy, I was saying that it's ridiculous for this to even come up because it's not a big deal. However, yes, the monarchy is a figurehead. The monarchy is severly limited by the British Parliamnent.
Power........moot point.

Massive waste of hard earned $ is the point.

[Alpheus]

Power........moot point.

Massive waste of hard earned $ is the point.

Yes, I'm sure everyone in Britain wants their hard earned 62 pence back.

[PeterRJG]

Power........moot point.

Massive waste of hard earned $ is the point.

The Queen generates money. Didn't know that, did you?

[emiljoe]

I really hope Western funds do not end up financing this council in any way, its a sad joke.


Unfortunately western funds are already financing this idiotic council. :fork:

[Dodge]

I wouldn't mind there being a vote to abolish the monararchy here.

I'd vote YES. :D