Is Israel indirectly buying Iranian oil?

[eurekaa]

Is Israel indirectly buying Iranian oil?

A former Israeli energy minister has told The Jerusalem Post that Iranian oil may have been imported indirectly for years and that he would have readily authorized such purchases himself.

"I don't see any problem if Iranian oil is arriving in Israel," said Moshe Shahal, who served as energy minister from 1984 to 1990, "because it's not coming straight from Iran."

Shahal explained that once oil is on the open market, its source becomes clouded. In a sense, he said, the oil loses its nationality while retaining its quality.

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OK ,

To import Pistachio/nuts (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=136238)form Iran (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=136238) is a thing and to import Iranian's OIL is another issue ..

Maybe I do not blame you for importing the cheap/tasty Iranian's pistachio specially that Iran wont cry for stopping importing Pistachio from them and it'll not really improve their economy if u did . But when it comes to import the Iranian's Oil which they rely on for their economy here your boycott claims becomes ridicules ..

Not only Israel who is not happy and infected by boycotting Iran , U.S is not happy and also we are not happy either ( in middle east countries ) !

As far as I know that U.S already started to burn their 1/3 of their crops production (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=133774) in order to produce biofuel as Oil alternative and this is mainly because of the Oil prices raising due to the situation in Iraq and their boycotting to Iran which cause a huge deficiency for their oil sources ..

For us in ME country , Iran is not officially stated as an enemy or aggressor state so far , so why U.S continues asking us to boycott our friend / neighbor if their declared enemy do not !

Why USA keep asking us ( ME countries ) to boycott Iran if Israel them self do not follow the book and their global sanctions against Iran , these sanctions that all of us know its approved for the advantage of the Jewish state itself !!!


Wondering ,

what else does Israel indirectly import from Iran after Pistacho and oil !!!

[Ordie]

what else does Israel indirectly import from Iran after Pistacho and oil !!!

A former President?

[LRPV]

Iran is a declared enemy of Israel?

[eurekaa]

Iran is a declared enemy of Israel?

If Iran is not the main enemy for Israel after Ahmed Najad's statemnts against the holocausts and his claims to wiped Israel off the map , then I do not know what the word enemy means :)

Specially after the last statements we hear from Israeli transport minister Shaul Mofaz that a strike on Iran's nuclear plans will be "unavoidable"

So , do not blame me for using the word declared enemy due to my understanding of the current situation and connection between Israel / Iran.

Or if something I'm missing here I appreciate if you clear it to me !

Thanks

[Mr.Flint]

Buying from a reseller is indeed something different than a direct purchase...
its often done with many things, and often involves legal (but dishonest) rebranding.

also Biofuel as a replacement to Oil has been pushed for years by environmentalists... so everyone happy...

[LRPV]

So , do not blame me for using the word declared enemy due to my understanding of the current situation and connection between Israel / Iran.



I'm not blaming you, just pointing out that your statement which YOU emboldened, is incorrect. We all make mistakes. I thought I made one once, but then realized I was mistaken...

[eurekaa]

Hi Mr.Flint

Thanks for being around and sharing us your POV all the time ( seriously ) , even if we disagree all the time :)


Buying from a reseller is indeed something different than a direct purchase...
its often done with many things, and often involves legal (but dishonest) rebranding.

From reseller or direct the result is the same ! , we are just deceiving ourselfs




also Biofuel as a replacement to Oil has been pushed for years by environmentalists... so everyone happy...

The question I have here that today the U.S are using their 1/3 of their crop production to produce biofeul because of the current oil's price crises ( 139$ per barrel so far )

Does this mean its possible that the U.S to burn 90% or more of their crops if the oil prices get more increased , lets assume to hit the record of 300$ , and the more price of oil increased the more we burn our food !

And you call it " every one happy "

Cheers :)

[Mr.Flint]

From reseller or direct the result is the same ! , we are just deceiving ourselfs
Not exactly, Iran already made the profit when the reseller bought the oil, he might have sold it to another reseller and made profit, the last reseller sells it to whoever would buy it.
In this case it happens to be Israel, who unlikely to know how many times that oil has been sold before it was bought by them.




The question I have here that today the U.S are using their 1/3 of their crop production to produce biofeul because of the current oil's price crises ( 139$ per barrel so far )

Does this mean its possible that the U.S to burn 90% or more of their crops if the oil prices get more increased , lets assume to hit the record of 300$ , and the more price of oil increased the more we burn our food !

And you call it " every one happy "

Cheers :)
The push to move from Oil has been on, in the west for quite a while, the Oil prices are just another incentive.
and crop based biofuels are not the only alternative, there are other more effective and more advance.
What you fail to understand is that what you see is the dying throes of an Oil dependency, that were coming for a while and the crazy oil prices are simply speeding the process.

[Limeyfellow]

Not exactly, Iran already made the profit when the reseller bought the oil, he might have sold it to another reseller and made profit, the last reseller sells it to whoever would buy it.
In this case it happens to be Israel, who unlikely to know how many times that oil has been sold before it was bought by them.



You could say though that all oil is sold and resold on the market dozens of times before it reaches market to raise the price it will go for, so you can buy oil no matter the source, because it went through a bunch of middlemen first. That would include buying from Iran, Iraq during the previous regime, Libya in the 80s or just about anywhere else is all justified, no matter anything else. It is still fueling the market for such deals because the last traders can sell it to a country that has a ban on selling that oil which makes it illegal.

[eurekaa]

Not exactly, Iran already made the profit when the reseller bought the oil, he might have sold it to another reseller and made profit, the last reseller sells it to whoever would buy it.
In this case it happens to be Israel, who unlikely to know how many times that oil has been sold before it was bought by them.


Nothing change , back to the same result .. there is no clear boycott against Iran , its just matter of playing with words justifying our acts ..



The push to move from Oil has been on, in the west for quite a while, the Oil prices are just another incentive.
and crop based biofuels are not the only alternative, there are other more effective and more advance.
What you fail to understand is that what you see is the dying throes of an Oil dependency, that were coming for a while and the crazy oil prices are simply speeding the process.

I agree here :)

The main problem that all these changes comes suddenly , having alternate source for the energy is what we need for our future , the oil wont last for ever , there are many alternative sources for energy that the scientists and governments are working on for years .. our main problem that they want to switch to these alternative sources right away for the wrong reasons ..

[Excalibur]

I also suspect that in israel the air contains oxygen produced by trees in iran. worth of sending UN inspectors to israel to check that.
:roll:

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Buying from a reseller is indeed something different than a direct purchase...
its often done with many things, and often involves legal (but dishonest) rebranding.The port of loading is to be clearly marked in the manifest and the source of the crude is usually known for distallation purposes. Israel does not have an embargo on Iran so it's no big deal.

[kahn267]

Why USA keep asking us ( ME countries ) to boycott Iran if Israel them self do not follow the book and their global sanctions against Iran , these sanctions that all of us know its approved for the advantage of the Jewish state itself !!!


Wondering ,

what else does Israel indirectly import from Iran after Pistacho and oil !!!

What 'advantages' does Israel make from it?
Israel doesn't produce oil so what is your point?
They still are effected by price escalations also, so proove to me where Israel's advantages from it?

[Ariha]

As an arab you feel the sudden need of Israel NOT buying anything from Iran? I wonder why.

Not a big deal, the arab countries have declared a + 50 years embargo of Israel and are his sworn ennemies, yet you buy hundreds of millions of dollars of goods every year from the country.

[Power_serj]

Yes, they are buying oil from Iran, and everyone else that hates them. So what?

[eurekaa]

What 'advantages' does Israel make from it?
Israel doesn't produce oil so what is your point?
They still are effected by price escalations also, so proove to me where Israel's advantages from it?

My point is this show how hypocrite they are when they come to talk about boycott , they claim their own advantage and we must do the same as well . We shouy not get involved in the problem between Iran/west , its not our problem .