Chinese are the new "Blacks" in South Africa

[Afro-European]

The High Court in South Africa has ruled that Chinese South Africans are to be reclassified as black people.
It made the order so that ethnic Chinese can benefit from government policies aimed at ending white domination in the private sector.
The Chinese Association of South Africa took the government to court, saying its members had been discriminated against.
An estimated 200,000 ethnic Chinese live in South Africa.
The association said their members often failed to qualify for business contracts and job promotions because they were regarded as whites. The association said Chinese South Africans had faced widespread discrimination during the years of apartheid when they had been classified as people of mixed race.
The BBC's Mpho Lakaje in Johannesburg says the Broad-Based Economic Empowerment and the Employment Equity Acts were designed to eradicate the legacy of apartheid which left many black people impoverished. The laws give people classed as blacks, Indians and coloureds (mixed-race) employment and other economic benefits over other racial groups. The Black Economic Employment concept was initiated by the governing ANC to help previously disadvantaged individuals - to start their own businesses or become part of existing companies - thus redressing the country's historic inequalities. Whites still on top Our correspondent says the ruling provides clarity for corporations in South Africa on the rights of their Chinese staff - who were declared "coloured" under apartheid but are generally regarded as white today. An example cited in court papers includes an oil company that disqualified Chinese citizens from getting a slice of its biggest empowerment transaction to date. The company says the group is not catered for in the Black Economic Empowerment codes. Another example includes a Chinese national who was refused an opportunity to buy shares from the Johannesburg Stock Exchange two years ago. None of the three government departments cited as respondents in the court case opposed the application. A study released last month revealed that white South Africans still earn around 450% more than their black counterparts, 14 years after the end of apartheid.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7461099.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7461099.stm)
Yellow is the nwe black lol ."Positive" discrimination is great,isn't it?

[wilhelm]

Africa is a basket case for sound reasons. Some of your highlighted text illustrates this.

[Calanen]

None of the three government departments cited as respondents in the court case opposed the application.


There's the reason for the decision...

[Rudolph]

Can whites turning 18 after 1994 be classified as black as well?

[Calanen]

Can whites turning 18 after 1994 be classified as black as well?

The only thing you should be turning to is your travel agent bru. One way ticket to the UK, USA, or Australia.

[PeterRJG]

I thought the RSA abolished that race classification crap in 1994? Guess not...

Edit: And yep, Rudolph, you need to get on a plane for Perth and join half of your countrymen who've moved on to a better life.

[Rudolph]

I thought the RSA abolished that race classification crap in 1994? Guess not...

Edit: And yep, Rudolph, you need to get on a plane for Perth and join half of your countrymen who've moved on to a better life.

Oh, come now! Nothing like a bit of murder and rape to open up the airways.

[Snake Doctor]

Come on guys..this is our home, we cant just turn our back on it because times are tough... Bad people doing bad things is a travesty, but good people doing nothing is worse.. Get involved, join the saps or army reserve etc. Make a contribution.. Im sure I will open up a whole can of worms here, but leaving SA is not going to achieve anything for the future of this country and slateing this country while you are sitting in Perth or London etc is just bad form. Ive you've chosen to leave that is your decision, but dont try make the rest of us feel bad for staying

[Ritual]

:hug:Uncle Sam wants YOU!

[el borracho]

Sure, come on over. I've met a few Saffies in the States. They are a blast to hang out with and are excellent drinkers.

[Alpheus]

The only thing you should be turning to is your travel agent bru. One way ticket to the UK, USA, or Australia.
Don't forget Canada, there is a fair number of us up here.

[Lt. James Anderson]

The only thing you should be turning to is your travel agent bru. One way ticket to the UK, USA, or Australia.

LOL, only in ten to twenty years UK, USA or Australia won't be in much better state than SA today.

[PeterRJG]

LOL, only in ten to twenty years UK, USA or Australia won't be in much better state than SA today.

Explain.....

[STIG]

but but how can chinese be blacks? They have small *****es :(

[Bushranger]

LOL, only in ten to twenty years UK, USA or Australia won't be in much better state than SA today.

In no way are the above mentioned countries anything or anywhere SA.
Affirmative action what a joke that is. :bash:

[Lt. James Anderson]

Explain.....

My family had to move ten times since I was born. Living in a nice neighborhood one day, wake up the next day and it's a shiithole (if you stick around good luck selling your house). I figure in next ten to twenty years there won't be many places to flee to.


Affirmative action what a joke that is. :bash:

There's AA in the US too (and it isn't going to get any better if you're white "racist").

[Bushranger]

I figure in next ten to twenty years there won't be many places to flee to.

There's AA in the US too (and it isn't going to get any better if you're white "racist").

Aint going to happen in OZ no matter what people think.

[Lt. James Anderson]

Aint going to happen in OZ no matter what people think.

I guess will have to wait and see. Australia might be a little bit better off now but who knows what future holds. One day you have everything, the next day you have nothing. And China has a population surplus too ;)

[Bushranger]

I guess will have to wait and see. Australia might be a little bit better off now but who knows what future holds. One day you have everything, the next day you have nothing. And China has a population surplus too ;)

I already have 3 Safa friends that have moved here & trust me Australia is the closes to SA you will get in everything. You would have to support the Wallabies though. Gaan die Wallabies
Cant see hord of Chinese taking over if thats what you mean.

[Lt. James Anderson]

Cant see hord of Chinese taking over if thats what you mean.

Yes ... at least that's what I've heard/read.

[Bushranger]

Yes ... at least that's what I've heard/read.

Although there are a lot of Asians immigrating, here i dont believe they are any more than any other population mass,(the largest is still from the UK) there are areas you go through & hey you could think you were in asia but there no problem as a whole dont cause trouble & if they do its between themselves. I could take you to areas is Sydney & every third preson is a Safa, my misses even works for a Safa bank.

[delio]

Can whites turning 18 after 1994 be classified as black as well?

Nope, but they can come and make their life in the United States, and legitimately classify themselves as African-American.p-)

[Bushranger]

Nope, but they can come and make their life in the United States, and legitimately classify themselves as African-American.p-)


Thats reminds me of my mates brother (born n bred in capetown,travels around africa a lot also) when he went to America he had a discussion with some african americans & they were telling him they were more african than he was.

[Calanen]

Aint going to happen in OZ no matter what people think.

Hope that is right. The level of common sense amongst the population seems to be against pandering appeasement too much.

[Bushranger]

Hope that is right. The level of common sense amongst the population seems to be against pandering appeasement too much.

True mate, & as for where you are living it certainly has changed from what we grew up with just have a look down kingsford. Over this side its very different.


sorry to take this off the original topic

[Afro-European]

but but how can chinese be blacks? They have small *****es :(
Only Chinese that caught "jungle fever" can be seen as blacks.:roll::roll::roll:

[baboon6]

I already have 3 Safa friends that have moved here & trust me Australia is the closes to SA you will get in everything. You would have to support the Wallabies though. Gaan die Wallabies
Cant see hord of Chinese taking over if thats what you mean.

Guess I'm staying here then. Seriously though, I don't think I would qualify on points.

Most people I know who have left here recently have gone to the UK, Dubai or other places in Africa. People in the latter two categories seem to spend as much time back here as possible...

[playtym]

Outstanding news, if you ask me.

I can finally employee skilled, and literate, workers and make my employment equity targets at the same time! woot

[PeterRJG]

Outstanding news, if you ask me.

I can finally employee skilled, and literate, workers and make my employment equity targets at the same time! woot

For real? That quota nonsense extend off the sporting field and into business?

[baboon6]

Outstanding news, if you ask me.

I can finally employee skilled, and literate, workers and make my employment equity targets at the same time! woot

It's an ill wind indeed that blows no good!

I bumped into some white Zimbabweans who still live there in a pub here last Friday, they were down from Harare for the weekend. No plans to leave yet though they were quite vague about what they did for a living.

[playtym]

For real? That quota nonsense extend off the sporting field and into business?

Oh yes, you get to submit returns telling them how many white, black, coloured and indian employees you have, and it's all broken down into male and female, able-bodied and disabled, and different job levels - senior managers, junior managers, trainees, packers, cashiers etc.



they were quite vague about what they did for a living.

I think the only economy that stills function in Zim is the black market - I imagine you'd have to rely on it to survive there.

[wilhelm]

For real? That quota nonsense extend off the sporting field and into business?

It's not law, but they entice larger companies with contracts and punish those without quota's. If you don't do business with the government, you're fine, particularly seeing as the government is composed of the criminally corrupt here anyway....

I got a call from some or other government department asking about our family run company's BEE status. I told her that all the employees were born in Africa, except one whom I'm married to, and that any further questions asked by her as to the racial make up would result in a call by me to the police with a charge of harrassment.

She went away...

[wilhelm]

Outstanding news, if you ask me.

I can finally employee skilled, and literate, workers and make my employment equity targets at the same time! woot

I couldn't agree more. I wonder if we can't institute a worker exchange programme with China.........p-)

"Liberation before Education" is the kind of mindless thing that'll always come back and bite you on the bum....p-)

[Rudolph]

For real? That quota nonsense extend off the sporting field and into business?

Can't believe you didn't know? You cannot legally get government contracts without achieving BEE status, which can only be achieved by having a certian racial make-up in your company. Same with University intakes, and such, there's no regard for top marks or ability. Only race.

[Snake Doctor]

Thats why I love my business - I have a few government customers, they ask my BEE status, I tell them I dont have any..They tell me they cant do business with me, but come back a month later cos they cant find anyone else to supply.. Being unique in your field is the key..
Have a good weekend y'all.

[RA88IT]

I want to be black too!

C'mon :oops:

[jd123]

but but how can chinese be blacks? They have small *****es :(
how do you know? you sucked one?