China destroys mosque for not backing Olympics !

[eurekaa]

China destroys mosque for not backing Olympics !

Group claims China forcing mosques to publicize Beijing games


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Chinese authorities in the restive far western region of Xinjiang have demolished a mosque for refusing to put up signs in support of this August’s Beijing Olympics, an exiled group said on Monday.

The mosque was in Kalpin county near Aksu city in Xinjiang’s rugged southwest, the World Uyghur Congress said.


“China is forcing mosques in East Turkistan to publicize the Beijing Olympics to get the Uighur people to support the Games (but) this has been resisted by the Uighurs,” World Uyghur Congress spokesman Dilxat Raxit said in an emailed statement.



Beijing says al-Qaeda is working with militants in Xinjiang to use terror to establish an independent state called East Turkistan.


Oil-rich Xinjiang is home to 8 million Turkic-speaking Uighurs, many of whom resent the growing economic and cultural influence of the Han Chinese.
Dilxat Raxit added that the mosque, which had been renovated in 1998, was accused of illegally renovating the structure, carrying out illegal religious activities and illegally storing copies of the Muslim holy book the Quran.


“All the Qurans in the mosque have been seized by the government and dozens of people detained,” he said. “The detained Uighurs have been tortured.”


The Olympic torch relay passed through Xinjiang last week under tight security, with all but carefully vetted residents banned from watching on the streets and tight controls over foreign media covering the event.

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[junglejim]

*crickets crickets crickets* :)

[dc_b4.mc]

although they did want to do so,
current chinese officials are not that stupid to stir up a nest of hornets
they prefer moderate policies towards muslims while repressing christians much more harshly

[eugenlitwin]

China destroys mosque for not backing Olympics !

Group claims China forcing mosques to publicize Beijing games


http://www.onlines.ws/wp-content/img/mousqe_china.jpg

Chinese authorities in the restive far western region of Xinjiang have demolished a mosque for refusing to put up signs in support of this August’s Beijing Olympics, an exiled group said on Monday.

The mosque was in Kalpin county near Aksu city in Xinjiang’s rugged southwest, the World Uyghur Congress said.


“China is forcing mosques in East Turkistan to publicize the Beijing Olympics to get the Uighur people to support the Games (but) this has been resisted by the Uighurs,” World Uyghur Congress spokesman Dilxat Raxit said in an emailed statement.



Beijing says al-Qaeda is working with militants in Xinjiang to use terror to establish an independent state called East Turkistan.


Oil-rich Xinjiang is home to 8 million Turkic-speaking Uighurs, many of whom resent the growing economic and cultural influence of the Han Chinese.
Dilxat Raxit added that the mosque, which had been renovated in 1998, was accused of illegally renovating the structure, carrying out illegal religious activities and illegally storing copies of the Muslim holy book the Quran.


“All the Qurans in the mosque have been seized by the government and dozens of people detained,” he said. “The detained Uighurs have been tortured.”


The Olympic torch relay passed through Xinjiang last week under tight security, with all but carefully vetted residents banned from watching on the streets and tight controls over foreign media covering the event.

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does turkey support Uighurs somehow?

[RallyPointCebu]

this is interesting. Chinese and Turks in action.,....

[J-10]

does turkey support Uighurs somehow?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Turkestan_Islamic_Movement

[Mackie]

China in war on terror? lol
They don't care about human rights and nuke the terrorists out.

[eugenlitwin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Turkestan_Islamic_Movement

not much actually

[Holycrusader]

I must believe it.Its on Iternet.

Exiled groups are not on my most belivable sources list :)

[Calanen]

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Terrorism and Beijing Olympics


Chinese Official Says Government Will Fight 'Evil Forces'


By STEPHANIE SY
BEIJING, March 10, 2008
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Chinese officials were keen Monday to push aside security concerns for this summer's Olympic Games after the announcement of two thwarted terror attacks.
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Delegates to China's National People's Congress seen behind the logo of an Olympic sponsor in Beijing's Great Hall of the People Monday March 10, 2008. In separate incidents, Chinese police apprehended alleged terrorists who were plotting to attack the Beijing Olympics, while a flight crew managed to prevent an apparent attempt to crash a Chinese jetliner last week, officials said Sunday at the congress. http://a.abcnews.com/assets/images/icons/icon-arrow-up.gif (http://abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=4420970&page=1#)
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"An efficient Olympic security command system is in place," Sun Weide, a spokesman for the Beijing's Olympic Organizing Committee told The Associated Press. "We're confident of holding a peaceful and safe Olympic Games."

News that a flight crew may have halted an attempt to down a Chinese jetliner emerged this Sunday, two full days after the flight made an emergency landing.

At the same event, a Communist Party leader said police had raided a "terrorist gang" that was plotting to disrupt the Olympics.

The incidents were unconnected, but both plots apparently took root in China's Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region.

The announcement of the flight incident did not come from the Chinese Civil Aviation Administration but during a discussion of Xinjiang issues at the national parliamentary session.
"Some people were attempting to create an air disaster," Nur Bekri, the governor of Xinjiang told the round table participants as reporters looked on.

China Southern Flight CZ6901 took off from Xinjiang's capital Urumqi Friday, en route to Beijing. The flight made an emergency landing in Lanzhou, in the neighboring Gansu Province at 12:40 p.m. The passengers and crew members were unharmed and flew to Beijing the next day.

Authorities released few details, but the Chinese Civil Aviation Administration carried a statement on its Web site saying the flight made an emergency landing after "flammable materials were discovered in the toilet."

Aviation officials spoke only on condition of anonymity to the few Chinese media outlets that reported the incident.

The Southern Metro newspaper in Guangzhou quoted a source saying that a flight attendant caught an 18- to 19-year-old woman, described as Uighur, attempting to set a gas canister on fire in the bathroom. The paper reported that at least two suspects were taken into custody.

With few details released by authorities, the Chinese blogosphere is rife with speculation and unsubstantiated rumor surrounding the incident. One blog, supposedly written by a passenger on the plane, read, "four Uighurs disguised as Pakistani businessmen...brought gasoline to the plane. They planned to ignite it upon landing in Beijing airport. They wanted to crash the plane during the NPC (National People's Congress) annual session and on the eve of the Olympics."

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[Lokos]

The Chinese would come down like the fist of an angry God on serious unrest. And no one would do a thing to stop them. Ahh, to be the world's economic engine.

Lokos

[LEB101]

i would like to see people in the arab world burn down chinese embassies . like they did when the ugly demark cartoons came out .

[CreepingDeath]

i would like to see people in the arab world burn down chinese embassies . like they did when the ugly demark cartoons came out .

I look forward to that.

I think theyd be burning chinese flags along with US and denmark flags too.

[frenchy]

Hmmm, some countries aren't afraid of arab world reactions ...

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Hmmm, some coutries aren't afraid of arab world reactions ...A small restriction on China's oil supply will ease our oil woes and teach them to be nice.

[Migman]

A small restriction on China's oil supply will ease our oil woes and teach them to be nice.

A small restriction on cheap Chinese goods and labor will teach the Arab world to be nice. ;)

[Eztyga]

Got to love the Chinese, balls of titanium...

Ezy

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

A small restriction on cheap Chinese goods and labor will teach the Arab world to be nice. ;)I think the Arab world could survive longer without Widgets than the Chinese without oil. Maybe cutting China out of the energy loop might be a way to solve our energy problems, just a thought.

[Migman]

I think the Arab world could survive longer without Widgets than the Chinese without oil. Maybe cutting China out of the energy loop might be a way to solve our energy problems, just a thought.

No matter if cutting China out of the energy loop would ease oil prices, I don't think anyone would want a belligerent oil-deprived China. No good can come from that. Just look at pre-WWII Imperial Japan. :(

[dava]

Plus relations between SA and PRC are much better than those between SA and USA.

[frenchy]

A small restriction on China's oil supply will ease our oil woes and teach them to be nice.

Probably, and when people will go to work, they'll pay higher again for their car.:roll:

[Ordie]

Hmmm, some countries aren't afraid of arab world reactions ...

What do the Arabs have to do with it?
It's a Uighur issue.

[LEB101]

What do the Arabs have to do with it?
It's a Uighur issue.
muslim not only arab

[damagejackal]

A small restriction on China's oil supply will ease our oil woes and teach them to be nice.

Nope, That trick didn't work on America, infact it forced USA to deploy its military forces into the Persian Gulf to protect the free flowing supply of oil. Hence Gulf war 1 an 2

[LEB101]

A small restriction on cheap Chinese goods and labor will teach the Arab world to be nice. ;)
china needs the middle east oil more then the middle east needs chinese stuff

[Ordie]

Eurekka,

Given the proximity of Xingzhan in relation to Afghanistan and Central Asia, I expect a muted responce from the West and Muslim world.

Moreover, China's foreign policy is one of non-interference within the domestic affairs of the Middle Eastern countries. And China serves a a model of an economic non-democratic authoritarian state for many countries. Don't expect an outcry.

Interestingly, China has been low key and quiet about US intervention in Iraq, Lebanon, Israel, and Afghanistan.

The Chinese Government has been very controlling in the matters of religious affairs. Especially in the periphery where ethnic and class discrimination along with income disparity are creating tensions with the population.

Though this is not different than many places within the China, it becomes magnified in areas where more prosperous Han Chinese are in the minority but control the majority.

[Ordie]

muslim not only arab

Not all Arabs are Muslims.
And the majority of Muslims are Asians.

[vinny_121_ND]

Got to love the Chinese, balls of titanium...

Ezy

LOL. Now AQ will make a video condemning china and urging all muslims to boycott chinese goods, and start violent protests. Not again.

To be honest, I think destroying mosques might have been too harsh, but this is China. Love the motherland or else.

[Ordie]

To be honest, I think destroying mosques might have been too harsh, but this is China. Love the motherland or else.

There is a reason why the Chinese Communist Party has not won an election.

[Eztyga]

Not all Arabs are Muslims.
And the majority of Muslims are Asians.


Indonesia is home to the world's largest Muslim population.

Ezy

[Ordie]

Indonesia is home to the world's largest Muslim population.

Ezy

And where the Indonesian-Chinese community are nervous.

[Xaito]

they should have forbidden religion alltogether...

[Eztyga]

And where the Indonesian-Chinese community are nervous.

Yep, they copped a battering in Ambon during the trouble there a few years back, though they only made up a small part of the population on that island. Pity, it was a nice little island and had a great Chinese resturant.

Ezy

[khukuri]

Its not only about Islam for the uighur minority. Its about Han chinese changing their culture. Just like tibet.

[Ordie]

Its not only about Islam for the uighur minority. Its about Han chinese changing their culture. Just like tibet.

Cuture issues are just an externality.
The real issue is one of discrimination, disenfranchisement and equality.

A common issue for many Chinese citizens who have not benefitted from market based economic policies, in addition to Beijing/Shanghai/Guangzhou centric attitudes and norms imposed on the locals.

[khukuri]

Cuture issues are just an externality.
The real issue is one of discrimination, disenfranchisement and equality.

A common issue for many Chinese citizens who have not benefitted from market based economic policies, in addition to Beijing/Shanghai/Guangzhou centric attitudes and norms imposed on the locals.


Well, thats far better put! I agree

[dragonlord]

I'm wondering if this might not be a good thing. China messes with the Uighurs, incurring the wrath of extremists, they then commit a terrorist attack inside China...and all of the sudden, there's a billion man army with little, or no care for world opinion and disdain for religion, coming after them. Hmmmm...

"You attack our interests...we blow up your mosque...stuff your mouth full of pork before we execute you...bill your family for the bullet before carting them all off to the ghulag."

Dang! A terrorist attack on China just might be our ace-in-a-hole.

[Ordie]

I'm wondering if this might not be a good thing. China messes with the Uighurs, incurring the wrath of extremists, they then commit a terrorist attack inside China...and all of the sudden, there's a billion man army with little, or no care for world opinion and disdain for religion, coming after them. Hmmmm...

"You attack our interests...we blow up your mosque...stuff your mouth full of pork before we execute you...bill your family for the bullet before carting them all off to the ghulag."

Dang! A terrorist attack on China just might be our ace-in-a-hole.

The Chinese Communist Party is primarily interested in maintaining thier rule at home. They will make every effort to maintain control with no apologies to any outsider. However, they do not realise the global consequences with a destruction of a Mosque.

Just as China's nationalist and netizens get worked up with an internet image of a Japanese lawmaker visiting the Yasukuni shrine. Muslim fundamentalist will equally get worked up if images of a destroyed Mosque in China.

This may serve as a rationale for violence against ethnic Chinese communities in Indonesia, Malaysia, or Chinese workers in Nigeria, Sudan and Pakistan. If this happens, what will be the Chinese people's reaction and demand on the Chinese Communist Party? and to its legitimacy?

[annihilation]

*crickets crickets crickets* :)

Pretty much.

[LEB101]

I'm wondering if this might not be a good thing. China messes with the Uighurs, incurring the wrath of extremists, they then commit a terrorist attack inside China...and all of the sudden, there's a billion man army with little, or no care for world opinion and disdain for religion, coming after them. Hmmmm...

"You attack our interests...we blow up your mosque...stuff your mouth full of pork before we execute you...bill your family for the bullet before carting them all off to the ghulag."

Dang! A terrorist attack on China just might be our ace-in-a-hole.
dosnt sound to bad to me

[eugenlitwin]

i would like to see people in the arab world burn down chinese embassies . like they did when the ugly demark cartoons came out .

oh yes Denmark...

[Bia]

"Chinese authorities have demolished a mosque for refusing to put up signs in support of this August’s Beijing Olympics"

Yay China

rofl

[4X4Driver]

does turkey support Uighurs somehow?

The US has a greater support for them (Uighurs) by allowing them to establish a government in exile in US.

They should not be mixed with the (East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) fundementalists though...


China Protests Establishment of Uighur Government-in-Exile in Washington

Luis Ramirez
Beijing
21 Sep 2004, 11:57 UTC

China has protested to the United States after members of China's Uighur minority group announced the creation of a government in exile in Washington.
Chinese officials blasted the United States following reports that the group headed by Uighur emigrants had announced their government in exile at the U.S. Capitol building in Washington.





http://www.uygur.org/wunn04/09_22.htm

[dava]

Then the US doesnt have to look further for a country that wants to accept the Uighurs who are in Guantanomo Bay.

[4X4Driver]

Then the US doesnt have to look further for a country that wants to accept the Uighurs who are in Guantanomo Bay.

Like I said...They(Uighur Government-in-Exile in Washington)

should not be mixed with the (East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) fundementalists...

[J-10]

"Chinese authorities have demolished a mosque for refusing to put up signs in support of this August’s Beijing Olympics"

It's from Idiot's BS.

[Biu]

Its not only about Islam for the uighur minority. Its about Han chinese changing their culture. Just like tibet.
Dalai Lama's faeces used as drugs,Should such cultural heritage?

[Ordie]

Dalai Lama's faeces used as drugs,Should such cultural heritage?

Our friends from China have just arrived.
Get ready for some fireworks.
Ni Hao!

[Henry's Fork]

Our friends from China have just arrived.
Get ready for some fireworks.
Ni Hao!

rofl

The nile has take over the yellow river, in size, it seems.

[Zerazax]

You won't find a whole lot of people out in the US that mind about destroying some mosques

Wouldn't be bad though I'd bet to have a rising superpower nation that doesn't care about rights on our side against forces of terror though I bet

[LEB101]

You won't find a whole lot of people out in the US that mind about destroying some mosques

Wouldn't be bad though I'd bet to have a rising superpower nation that doesn't care about rights on our side against forces of terror though I bet
it actually dose not seem like a bad idea . china fighting terrorist . but i dont like how no one condems them . if america destoryed a mosqe the whole world would go crazy

[Adux]

One-UP China, Good go, Though destroying the mosque was bit extreme, but maybe thats what was needed in that situation.

[dc_b4.mc]

destroying a mosque for not supporting olympic is simply impossible


chinas authority not that stupid, hard to believe someone actually believes


china always has (relatively) moderate policies towards muslims, in order not to "distablising" the "autonomous region",

people in the region have more (relatively, again) human rights (although economically they poor) than Han population


i support fighting for human rights,

but it shouldnt be done by lying and provoking muslim population


China authority might be "EVIL", but not "STUPID"

[LazerLordz]

LOL. Now AQ will make a video condemning china and urging all muslims to boycott chinese goods, and start violent protests. Not again.

To be honest, I think destroying mosques might have been too harsh, but this is China. Love the motherland or else.

AQ will learn one thing very fast. You do not f*ck with the Chinese.

[Adux]

AQ will learn one thing very fast. You do not f*ck with the Chinese.

They wont show 'empathy to terroist' especially when they bill the **** ing bullet to their family.

[vinny_121_ND]

They wont show 'empathy to terroist' especially when they bill the **** ing bullet to their family.

No empathy, no rights, no lawyer, quick and speedy trial, and amnesty international won't ever hear about it. If chinese muslims wanted sharia law instead of state law, the government would flip out and clamp down on islam to the point where they can't even practice the religion.

[khukuri]

"Chinese authorities have demolished a mosque for refusing to put up signs in support of this August’s Beijing Olympics"

Yay China

rofl

You think thats good? I will like to see your reaction if the same happened in the us. typical hypocrisy

[-CROAT-SOLDIER-]

LOL. Now AQ will make a video condemning china and urging all muslims to boycott chinese goods, and start violent protests. Not again.

To be honest, I think destroying mosques might have been too harsh, but this is China. Love the motherland or else.

I wish Canada was a little more like China in some ways, or other countries that don't let a group push them around. Here in Canada, I remember back in high school a few years ago, the Arab people had complained about Christmas and the school could not be decorated for Christmas. And the auditorium can not be used in the morning and all muslims are excused for "morning prayers" while half of them run off to Mc Donalds to eat a egg mc muffin or smoke pot out front of the school. Also when "fasting" they are excused from class without "reason".

[vinny_121_ND]

I wish Canada was a little more like China in some ways, or other countries that don't let a group push them around. Here in Canada, I remember back in high school a few years ago, the Arab people had complained about Christmas and the school could not be decorated for Christmas. And the auditorium can not be used in the morning and all muslims are excused for "morning prayers" while half of them run off to Mc Donalds to eat a egg mc muffin or smoke pot out front of the school. Also when "fasting" they are excused from class without "reason".

I haven't seen anything too crazy with muslims here in canada to be honest. The honor killings here and there, but that's about it. I'm very very glad that our welfare, unemployment insurance isn't abused like it is in europe. To give you an idea of what I mean, I can't live off welfare. Not even close. I can live off minimum wage full time, and if I went on welfare, I would get about half of minimum wage salary, to put things in laymen terms.

If these muslim kids want to skip school because of their religion, great. Just don't complain to the teacher when they get an F on the final exam.

Muslims are very demanding and anything can be offensive to them as we have seen in the uk, and I'm glad the Chinese have some backbone. Muslims can't use the islamophobia card because nobody's going to listen.