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Lee
06-23-2008, 12:51 PM
Whats your opinion? I always thought that it would be a real diffecult matter for Israel to destroy Iran's nuclear program. As the article below states Iran claims that Israel can't do it. It would be a chancy move for Israel to say the least. What if they tried and failed? Anyway it will be interesting what opinions other people have.

article: http://www.*******.com/article/topNews/idUSDAH32979820080623?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

Elemental666
06-23-2008, 12:57 PM
Ohhh, god. This is getting ridiculous. There are 6032526 different "experts" with even more opinions.

If and when we attack, then lets open a thread and discuss about it. Until then, it's just pointless to open a thread every time someone says "Iran" and "Israel" in the same sentence.

sosed
06-23-2008, 12:59 PM
This is possible if Iran removes important installations from Natanz and other known locations in to new unknown locations and disperse them in multiple locations.

SBL
06-23-2008, 01:03 PM
This is possible if Iran removes important installations from Natanz and other known locations in to new unknown locations and disperse them in multiple locations.

You seem like a real expert in the matter.

Adux
06-23-2008, 01:08 PM
Well it is true, they will just drive'em underground, and atleast Iranians acknowledged that they have a nuke program which can be nothing peaceful

gobdav
06-23-2008, 01:09 PM
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p168/gobdav/iran.jpg *hearts* http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p168/gobdav/bagdadboblargeng5.gif

KEEPER0311
06-23-2008, 01:11 PM
This is possible if Iran removes important installations from Natanz and other known locations in to new unknown locations and disperse them in multiple locations.

Israel could always carpet nuke Iran...pretty sure they'll hit it eventually...

frenchy
06-23-2008, 01:14 PM
Israel will do nothing without US help, according to me.
Sites are not centralized like in Iraq or Syria.

Iranians know that israelis want to attack them, so they prepared.

By the way, what about airspaces to cross to reach the targets ?

Mackie
06-23-2008, 01:15 PM
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p168/gobdav/bagdadboblargeng5.gif

Thought the same. rofl

sosed
06-23-2008, 01:21 PM
If they disperse them somewhere deep in Zagros mountains, they will be difficult to find, not only to bomb.

phoebus
06-23-2008, 02:16 PM
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the Iranians will use several locations and facilities for each component/installation of their nuclear programme. Some may end up in rubble, others will take over and compensate the work in a matter of years (if not months). They have the both geography and manpower (engineers & scientists) to do so, plus the capital.

A single air-strike will simply set them back, not stop them.

jokuvaan
06-23-2008, 02:20 PM
More Iran does decentralization, more it will hamper their timetable and I have feeling their nuke program's final outcome success is heavily based on beating expectations.

The very moment Iran possess so many nukes that they cant be all taken out in first strike then its big green "mission accomplishment" for Iranian hardliners.

These are basic Iranian comments that you hear often:
-nobody dares to attack
-if they attack, we will crush them
-if they attack, we will revenge

Thor
06-23-2008, 02:23 PM
Don't they have mines in Iran? If located a >500 meters below it would take a massive a nuclear attack to even come close.

phoebus
06-23-2008, 02:35 PM
More Iran does decentralization, more it will hamper their timetable

In my view it won't severely hamper anything with respect to any production timeframe, development is another issue, which again can only be just set back and not stopped by airstrikes solely. Once they figure out the whole science and overcome any design issues (if they haven't already) it would be rather easy to slowly outsource and decentralise any line for producing nuclear weapons.

The seriousness and danger here is that unless the regime changes or there are boots on the ground, this country will be in position to potentially acquire nukes, whether that's in this year or in 10 years.

Player
06-23-2008, 02:48 PM
Whats your opinion? I always thought that it would be a real diffecult matter for Israel to destroy Iran's nuclear program. As the article below states Iran claims that Israel can't do it. It would be a chancy move for Israel to say the least. What if they tried and failed? Anyway it will be interesting what opinions other people have.

Only time will tell. But if we take a look in the past, Israel always successfully destroyed targets. Also people shouldn't forget that it is matter of Israel's existence, a failure is out of the question.


This is possible if Iran removes important installations from Natanz and other known locations in to new unknown locations and disperse them in multiple locations.

If they disperse them somewhere deep in Zagros mountains, they will be difficult to find, not only to bomb.

I don't think the Iranians are stupid enough not to guess it themselves, IMO they have done it already or are at least busy with it. I'm sure that Israel is aware of it and is busy making plans to counter this problem, probably together with the US.

However waiting too long may result in a disaster, considering the awful leadership of Israel at the moment.


Sites are not centralized like in Iraq or Syria.


What do you mean by 'centralized'?

I thought Syrian nuclear reactor was pretty good hidden and isolated, having been located somewhere near Iraqi border, are you sure about the centralized thing?


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the Iranians will use several locations and facilities for each component/installation of their nuclear programme. Some may end up in rubble, others will take over and compensate the work in a matter of years (if not months). They have the both geography and manpower (engineers & scientists) to do so, plus the capital.

A single air-strike will simply set them back, not stop them.

True, therefore it will be most likely more than a just single air-strike.
Ground operation is very likely, occupation is very doubtful though.

phoebus
06-23-2008, 05:44 PM
True, therefore it will be most likely more than a just single air-strike.
Ground operation is very likely, occupation is very doubtful though.

I agree with you. Unforunately I do not want to see Iran being torn appart, yet I would imagine the slow way for engaging them may be to enforce seperatist movements. That would require Iraq and Afghanistan to stabilise first and that's the reason why invading Iraq was a horrible move, since throughout the 90's it was known Iran is heading towards their nuclear era.

I could foresee all sorts of people and exotic groups emerging in there (Arabs, Kurds, Azars and even Balukhistanis). This way USA and Israel may dispose of the regime and the prospects of getting nukes but simoultaneously they'd have opened the can of worms; creating an new terrorist axis (Iraq-Iran-Afghanistan) and an instability heaven that Arabs, Russia, India and China would not want.

Regime change is the best for both Iranians and the international community.

Arvin
06-23-2008, 11:45 PM
I agree with you. Unforunately I do not want to see Iran being torn appart, yet I would imagine the slow way for engaging them may be to enforce seperatist movements. That would require Iraq and Afghanistan to stabilise first and that's the reason why invading Iraq was a horrible move, since throughout the 90's it was known Iran is heading towards their nuclear era.

I could foresee all sorts of people and exotic groups emerging in there (Arabs, Kurds, Azars and even Balukhistanis). This way USA and Israel may dispose of the regime and the prospects of getting nukes but simoultaneously they'd have opened the can of worms; creating an new terrorist axis (Iraq-Iran-Afghanistan) and an instability heaven that Arabs, Russia, India and China would not want.

Regime change is the best for both Iranians and the international community.

Persians wouldn't like it either.All talk though nothing is going to happen.

Winger
06-24-2008, 12:00 PM
Its a good bet Israeli intelligence knows most of the locations through multiple means. If so, they can kill their nuke program.

Even if something is located underground some 500m you can cave in any known entrances and effectively seal off passages.