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Mr Gently Benevolent
06-27-2008, 03:55 AM
Germans To Put Ivan The Terrible On Deaths TrialJun 20 2008 By Allan Hall

Extradition For Evil Guard

PROSECUTORS in Germany have taken the first steps to extradite the man known as Ivan the Terrible from the US.

They want 88-year-old John Demjanjuk to stand trial for his alleged wartime role herding prisoners into gas chambers in Poland.

Demjanjuk is said to have beaten, whipped and sliced off the breasts of naked victims as they ran to their deaths at the Treblinka camp, near Warsaw.

The Ukrainian was sentenced to death by an Israeli court in 1988 but freed after his conviction was overturned five years later.

Now Demjanjuk - second on a list of most-wanted Nazi war criminals - could face another trial in Germany.

Kurt Schrimm, Germany's chief Nazi prosecutor, said: "We believe he could be convicted by German criminal law."

The Ludwigsburg-based Central Office for the Investigation of Nazi Crimes, which Schrimm heads, is in the process of applying to Germany's federal court of justice to have Demjanjuk extraditated from the US.

Germany's highest criminal court will then decide if the case can be tried. According to Schrimm, the chances of German prosecutors succeeding in bringing Demjankuk to court are "good".

Schrimm said prosecutors could make use of an exception in German law.

Normally the justice system can only prosecute someone if the criminal is German or the crime was committed in the country.

But in this case, Schrimm said, "a large number of the victims came from Germany and Demjanjuk was acting on German orders".

If Demjankuk is brought to justice in Germany, it could have far-reaching consequences for the prosecution of other Nazi war criminals. Schrimm said: "There are many other people who, like Demjanjuk, don't come from Germany but who could be held accountable under German law."

Demjanjuk emigrated to the US in 1952.How much money and political pressure has been exercised in this pursuit, Israel has a fair legal system and overturned his conviction so maybe its time to call it a day.

gaijinsamurai
06-27-2008, 09:19 AM
If Demjanjuk is truly "Ivan the Terrible", he deserves every bit of misery that can legally be inflicted upon him.

However, that "IF", is in doubt. He has already been tried by the Israelis and freed. Of course, the Germans are under no legal obligation to respect that, but if the allegations cannot be proven beyond any shadow of a doubt, they ought to leave the old man alone.

khalifah
06-28-2008, 12:17 AM
well hell, even if the Germans do get what they want, IVAN is 88 he's already lived his life. what would they do to him?

seraosha
06-28-2008, 12:29 AM
Letting a Nazi war criminal off the hook is in no ones best interests.
If he is tried and found guilty, let Germany do it's worst to him.

khalifah
06-28-2008, 12:38 AM
^
I hear that, people need to be held accountable for the things they do, and face the conciquences.

i was just wondering what would the punisment be? I meen, you cant really take anymore years away from him, he's probably a few months/years from death anyway.

gaijinsamurai
06-28-2008, 01:24 AM
I agree that if he was a Nazi/Nazi collaborator who committed crimes, he should pay.
It just seems to me, and many others, that the evidence against him is murky, at best.