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deli_dumrul
06-28-2008, 09:17 PM
It was supposed to be a party with balloons and a birthday cake but the eight-year-old Swedish boy had not reckoned on his country’s obsession with equality and inclusiveness. Two of his classmates were left off the invitation list – and that, deemed his school – was forbidden and a violation of their rights in the strictest “nanny state” in Europe.

The case has been sent to the Swedish parliament and has sparked a national debate about individual liberty. Does a child have the right to invite anyone he wants to a party, even if he risks hurting the feelings of those who were left out?

These issues are taken seriously in a society that has a very active Children’s Ombudsman and which encourages children to voice their complaints about school and society. Sweden is the best place in the world to grow up, according to the Save the Children Fund’s 2008 index. So much so, apparently, that adults and school managers have been put on the defensive.

The Swedish pressure group Children’s Rights in Society publicised recently 1,895 complaints by children about the way their parents used the household computer to access ****ographic websites or *** chatlines. The Government is now looking into the problem.

Lena Nyberg, the Children’s Ombudsman, is waging a campaign against collective punishment in schools too. Children have been complaining to her about the way that entire classes are kept behind after hours to punish an offence committed by a single pupil. “Adults at work would never accept being punished for something which a colleague is guilty of,” Ms Nyberg said.

The birthday party case takes state intervention to a new level. Before the beginning of lessons the boy had cheerfully threaded his way through the class handing out invitations. When the teacher spotted that two children had not received one he confiscated the invitations.

“One of the children had not invited my son to his own birthday party,” explained the father of the boy, who lodged an official complaint with the parliamentary ombudsman. “The other one had been bad to my son for six months. You do not invite your antagonists.”

That was not convincing enough for the headmaster or government deputies. “I believe the staff acted correctly, in a model way,” said Lars Hansson, of the Swedish Liberal party, one of the four ruling coalition partners in the country.

“It is their duty to reject any forms of insulting behaviour. To eliminate individual children from parties is not acceptable.”

The school, in Lund, southern Sweden, argues that if invitations are handed out on school premises, which are public areas, it has an obligation to ensure that there is no discrimination. It is irrelevant that the party will be held in a private household.

In other societies, exclusion from a party may be considered as a rite of passage. Many Swedes seem to believe, though, that equal treatment helps to reduce the unseemly scramble for classroom popularity and the splitting of pupils into groups of the socially attractive and those children perceived as unpopular.

A poll in Dagens Nyheter, a daily newspaper in Stockholm, showed that Swedes are divided on the matter: 56 per cent believed that a child should be free to choose who attends his party and 44 per cent backed the teachers.

The debate is likely to continue until a verdict is reached in September, in time for the next school year.

“My son has taken it pretty hard,” his father told the newspaper Sydsvenskan. “No one has the right to confiscate someone’s property in this way, it’s like taking someone’s post.”

In the meantime, the boy has several years to plan a very special celebration for his 18th birthday, when he will be free to leave anyone he wants to off the guest list.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4228131.ece

INAT
06-28-2008, 09:33 PM
And welcome to novus ordo seclorum.Come on people most of us know this is crazy so lets not pretend it is not.Where do you draw the line.
Do we stop picking teams for physical education for fear that the kid picked LAST will have his feelings hurt.This is just setting kids up for failure once they get to the real ,cold and indifferent world. What are these kids gonna do when they are criticized at work by their boss? How will they behave when they face rejection by the opposite ***?Poor kids. These partents need a few cases of HTFU.

Rictor
06-28-2008, 09:48 PM
Oh mother of Christ, what will they think of next!?

Alpheus
06-28-2008, 09:56 PM
Ever since the Swiss gave vegetation "Plant Rights", nothing like this surprises me anymore.

California Joe
06-28-2008, 10:10 PM
Children should be used in sweatshops and mines.

Conman
06-28-2008, 11:29 PM
Ridiculous...... Reminds me of another improper "intervention" by government in to a private life


Court overturns father's grounding of 12-year-old

OTTAWA (AFP) — A Canadian court has lifted a 12-year-old girl's grounding, overturning her father's punishment for disobeying his orders to stay off the Internet, his lawyer said Wednesday.

The girl had taken her father to Quebec Superior Court after he refused to allow her to go on a school trip for chatting on websites he tried to block, and then posting "inappropriate" pictures of herself online using a friend's computer.

The father's lawyer Kim Beaudoin said the disciplinary measures were for the girl's "own protection" and is appealing the ruling.

"She's a child," Beaudoin told AFP. "At her age, children test their limits and it's up to their parents to set boundaries."

"I started an appeal of the decision today to reestablish parental authority, and to ensure that this case doesn't set a precedent," she said. Otherwise, said Beaudoin, "parents are going to be walking on egg shells from now on."

"I think most children respect their parents and would never go so far as to take them to court, but it's clear that some would and we have to ask ourselves how far this will go."

According to court documents, the girl's Internet transgression was just the latest in a string of broken house rules. Even so, Justice Suzanne Tessier found her punishment too severe.

Beaudoin noted the girl used a court-appointed lawyer in her parents' 10-year custody dispute to launch her landmark case against dear old dad. taken from milnet.ca

LaoSexMachine
06-28-2008, 11:32 PM
Children should be used in sweatshops and mines.

I like where you are going with this. Sometimes I need someone small to go inside the drainage pipe to look for cracks.

gaijinsamurai
06-28-2008, 11:40 PM
I know a guy who's a chimneysweep. He could make good use of a skinny six-year-old.

Midav
06-28-2008, 11:45 PM
I honestly believe that in 200 years from now humanity will look back and call this era the "Stupid Times"...

May as well join the crowd... getting drunk tonight :)

Bushranger
06-28-2008, 11:52 PM
What a bloody joke this is, no wonder some children are becoming absolute soft c*cks & sooks, PC world gone mad lets return to the good old days of parents having a say in how there children grow up & not schools & authorities making all the rules, these children being left out might have actually taught them a lesson. We are giving children this false alls nice & rosie outlook on the world instead of teaching them the differences out there.

WarriorMonk
06-29-2008, 12:20 AM
Won't somebody PLEASE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

/sarcasm.

Nanny state supporters GTFO...

although collective punishment does seem slightly absurd.

LaoSexMachine
06-29-2008, 01:21 AM
This is what happens when you let pussies dictate the way you live.

-Church-
06-29-2008, 08:30 PM
In other societies, exclusion from a party may be considered as a rite of passage. Many Swedes seem to believe, though, that equal treatment helps to reduce the unseemly scramble for classroom popularity and the splitting of pupils into groups of the socially attractive and those children perceived as unpopular.


Yeah cos theres no better way to help an unpopular kid to fit by crashing to a party he wasnt invited.

Rudolph
06-29-2008, 08:41 PM
Uh, huh. The next generation of kids are definitely gonna be tough sob's. Ready to face problems, think for themselves, live amongst people with all their problems, etc... What a sad, sad article.

signatory
06-29-2008, 08:56 PM
School policy.

There's ~6000 other schools with their own individual policies in Sweden.

You can find stories like that all over the world. *shocking*

lol... there's no debate about this in Sweden.

kosse
06-29-2008, 11:42 PM
Sweden is doomed anyway. This is just a small symptom in a big scheme of a country going to hell.

Bulletproof
06-29-2008, 11:50 PM
Dear God! I can't believe what I just read. How can people be so stupid? It's unbelievable. A national debate over children party invitations. That Lars Hansson, please someone take him down.

signatory
06-29-2008, 11:56 PM
Sweden is doomed anyway. This is just a small symptom in a big scheme of a country going to hell.

Remind me, how many children died in Finnish schools last year ?

@ Bulletproof, then don't believe it... since it's not true.

T3ngu
06-30-2008, 12:07 AM
Its the same in my daughters school.

If you hand out the invites in class, the whole class must be invited.

If you hand them out on the sly, only the ones you like get invited.

I remember as a child not getting invited to certain parties and wanting to go, but hey, didn't hurt me in the long wrong.

Some rejection is good for us all.

PeterRJG
06-30-2008, 12:08 AM
Its the same in my daughters school.

If you hand out the invites in class, the whole class must be invited.

If you hand them out on the sly, only the ones you like get invited.

I remember as a child not getting invited to certain parties and wanting to go, but hey, didn't hurt me in the long wrong.

Some rejection is good for us all.

QFT.

You can't force "friends" upon people, kids or adults. It's just crazy.

T3ngu
06-30-2008, 12:08 AM
QFT.

You can't force "friends" upon people, kids or adults. It's just crazy.

Thats ok, your not invited to my party and your not my friend anymore.

..

..

now you are my friend again.

kosse
06-30-2008, 12:24 AM
Remind me, how many children died in Finnish schools last year ?


Shyt sometimes happens. We still beat your ass by far in PISA learning results. PC madness is not going to help you there. In fact, PC madness and bending over to every demand will be your downfall in your multicultural paradise.

ozumn
06-30-2008, 01:59 AM
Shyt sometimes happens. We still beat your ass by far in PISA learning results. PC madness is not going to help you there. In fact, PC madness and bending over to every demand will be your downfall in your multicultural paradise.

Yeah i can't wait to kick you all out of here.

Basillicus
06-30-2008, 02:23 AM
This is a pretty hilarious case, but also troubling at some extent. These leftists in Nordic countries may have done a good job until now making our countries perhaps best places to live in the world, but the problem is that now that they have achieved pretty much all of their goals they don't know how to stop. They continue pressing this equality stuff over the top and meddling in peoples private business. Human relations between private people should be off the limits. It is only natural that if you are an arsehat you don't get an invitation to a party, it has nothing to do with equality. It's sort of same thing if they would introduce a law that good looking people shouldn't discriminate fat and ugly people in their relationships. In an ideal world we all might have the access to same things, but that is just not how we really are. People have different abilities and that is what makes us human.

I hope that their comrades here in Finland don't follow the Swedish way. It seems though that there is a slight right wing backslash especially among young people which should balance things.

Calanen
06-30-2008, 06:43 AM
I think I should run some late night informercials in Sweden 'Have you been left off a birthday guest list? Did someone hand out cookies at school recess and not give you one? Did someone not let you play with their Pokemon cards? You have rights, and you need to enforce them! Call 1-800-I-WILL-SUE right now, and get the justice you deserve!