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Calanen
06-29-2008, 09:52 AM
Who is this guy? UK Terror Suspect on the Run

Yesterday a man charged with multiple terror related offenses in Britain skipped bail. That's right, in the UK they let you out on bail if you're a suspected terrorist.

The man has only been identified as a 23 (or 24, depending on which paper you read) year old who had charged with "conspiracy to cause explosions and conspiracy to murder". His bail conditions were such that he was under virtual house arrest, with one noted exception: he was allowed out of the house daily to say prayers at the local mosque.

Man suspected of being a terrorist is allowed to go to mosque. Brilliant!
He left a suicide note and is currently being hunted by the British authorities. Police deny the suicide note was a martyr's last will as is common among terrorist suicide murderers.

But it seems odd that British authorities are not naming the suspected terrorist. It's quite common in Britain for authorities to forbid newspapers from carrying the names of persons accused of crimes. But terrorism?

You'd think they'd want the help of the public in finding this man. After all, what if the suicide note was just a ruse?

So, any one have any info on the identity of this guy? I've done some Googling around, but can't seem to figure out who is currently out on bail but will be tried for terrorism later this year.

And really, this deserves it's own post, but it's Saturday night and my outrage meter is already through the roof: Abu Hamza passed messages from his UK prison cell to Ayman Zawahiri (http://prairiepundit.blogspot.com/2008/06/arrested-cleric-sneaks-messages-to.html).

Seriously Briatain, WTF???
Thanks to Cindy

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/193150.php

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7478621.stm



Bailed terror suspect goes on run


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44786000/jpg/_44786722_8375a769-756f-4437-9e56-afdf6bd9fd8f.jpg The suspect, accused of terror offences, was out on bail


A man who is out on bail for terror charges is understood to have gone on the run from police.
The man, 24, who is due to face trial later this year, is accused of conspiracy to cause explosions and conspiracy to murder. Channel 4 News said the man, who has not been named, left a suicide note which was found by his family. A Metropolitan Police spokesman refused to comment further on the case for operational reasons

Calanen
06-29-2008, 09:53 AM
If I were a religious person, I'd say a special prayer for the UK 'Lord, we beseech thee, save the British authorities from their manifest muppetdom!'

Calanen
06-29-2008, 09:59 AM
Oh, what I didn't know, is its become something of a pattern:

http://www.israelforum.com/blog_article.php?aid=1537101

They have also faced problems with suspects slipping their control orders and at least three others are being hunted by police having absconded in the past year.
Zeeshan Siddiqui, a former London Underground worker linked to the leader of the July 7 bomb plot, has been missing since September last year.

He disappeared after leaping from the window of West Middlesex University Hospital in Isleworth, west London, where he had been sectioned under the Mental Health Act. Raised in Hounslow, west London, he once said he planned to run away to join the mujahideen [holy warriors] in Lebanon. He was also said to have been a friend of British suicide bomber Asif Hanif, who blew himself up in Israel in 2003.

One of the most embarrassing examples of terror suspects flouting control orders occurred in May last year.

Three men - all of whom had been placed under control orders - went on the run after failing to report to the authorities....

And yet procedures have still not been toughened up enough to keep this from happening.

pacifist
06-29-2008, 10:06 AM
This reminds of a swedish guy who back in the 80's was serving life sentence in prison for spying for Soviet Union and the dumb swedes let him go for a holiday.

He of course didn't return from his "holiday".

vinny_121_ND
06-29-2008, 11:22 AM
Unbelievable. I thought this only happens in episodes of 24.

GNR
06-29-2008, 11:44 AM
Unbelievable. I thought this only happens in episodes of 24.

LOL, it does sound a bit far fetched doesn't it?

Paddy51
06-29-2008, 01:38 PM
The UK prides itself on human rights while at the same time people moan about the authorities not doing enough to protect them. When parliament debates detention of terror suspects, 42 days is thought by many to be a violation of human rights - often the same people who are critical of the government for not doing enough.


By the way, the escapee has just been caught according to BBC radio Scotland.....

Lov3ll
06-29-2008, 01:44 PM
They were probably hoping he would **** off to another country.

CMNot
06-29-2008, 02:45 PM
The UK prides itself on human rights while at the same time people moan about the authorities not doing enough to protect them. When parliament debates detention of terror suspects, 42 days is thought by many to be a violation of human rights - often the same people who are critical of the government for not doing enough.

Much of the legislation passed through by the Gov't is leaky and poor. Which should come as no surprise.

28 days is long enough. If you couldn't produce results in 4 weeks in the business world, you'd sink before you could say swim.

I got threatened by a copper with anti-terror legislation after being pulled on my bike coming out of Brands Hatch :roll:

Frankly, it is beyond me why we (read, Gubbernment) don't pass some details on some folk through to someone with a little more teeth. Like the Israeli's for instance.

Paddy51
06-29-2008, 02:59 PM
Much of the legislation passed through by the Gov't is leaky and poor. Which should come as no surprise.

28 days is long enough. If you couldn't produce results in 4 weeks in the business world, you'd sink before you could say swim.

I got threatened by a copper with anti-terror legislation after being pulled on my bike coming out of Brands Hatch :roll:

Frankly, it is beyond me why we (read, Gubbernment) don't pass some details on some folk through to someone with a little more teeth. Like the Israeli's for instance.

This whole issue of "how many days" is a muddle which I can't get my head around. On the one hand some officials say that this amount of time is needed so that the security services have enough time to download and analyse masses of data stored on hard disks, DVDs, etc. Ok, that is maybe plausible if there is a massive number of them and there some encryption etc. However, then the security services say that they didn't ask for 42 days... hence I don't really know what is going on.

As passing data on to other security services like Mosad, I hope that we do. I hope that while some politicians may not approve or be involved that members of the security services have close working (mutually beneficial) relationships with other services - who have more teeth and are less scared to bite.

CMNot
06-29-2008, 03:45 PM
I hope very few politicians are involved in liason. They'd just **** that up too p-)

vinny_121_ND
06-29-2008, 04:13 PM
Is it possible to put suspects on bail with a tracking device? like a ankle bracelet?

CMNot
06-29-2008, 04:23 PM
I believe it was common practice, it was/is used extensively with people who are on curfews (ASBOs) etc. Only problem is that it was also a woeful failure (see a pattern appearing) :)

Calanen
06-29-2008, 07:23 PM
By the way, the escapee has just been caught according to BBC radio Scotland.....

He has, good-oh. I think he should apply for bail then.

CMNot
06-29-2008, 07:58 PM
lol, just bothered to read it. The part handily left out was leaving a suicide note :)

And as for Hamza...hell its the Mail. If I read in that ****e that cement was gray, I'd go outside and check.

Paddy51
06-29-2008, 07:58 PM
He has, good-oh. I think he should apply for bail then.

And he might just get it .... don't think so somehow. :)