eotech on a 249

[Desert*Fox]

well since my unit is cheep an only has 2 145 i was wonder if i can put an eotech on a 249 an if it worth it.. an if anyone know i good sight where i can get them on sale or cheaper then the reguler price excuess the spelling an the ormate i am drunk

[scrybe]

I've seen it done. Can't vouch for effectiveness, but I can't imagine there being any issues. Check the equipment exchange at www.ar15.com. Look for good prices on private sales, or finder a dealer that sells through the site. Most of them would likely give you a mil discount as well.

[Fireball Sanchez]

Screw an Eotech, get an Aimpoint.... put a battery in it.... turn it on..... and forget about it for the rest of your deployment.

google, downrange TV.... use the search and type in " Aimpoint-the red dot solution.

It'll take you to a forum with a link to a presentation by Maj.[ret.] Freddie J. Blish on Aimpoints and it's good stuff.

[Frens]

I like the eotech reticle but I have to agree with the above post: aimpoint's battery life is impressive!

ARfcom is a good source for good prices...US .mil are very welcome overthere ;-)

stay safe!

[Pook2]

There are different versions of the EOTech available IIRC, the most common is the rifle sight but I believe there are also Machine Gun and Less Lethal weapon versions available, though rare.

[Createdeemcee]

There are different versions of the EOTech available IIRC, the most common is the rifle sight but I believe there are also Machine Gun and Less Lethal weapon versions available, though rare.


I hear the SAW guys out there Love eo's on their weapons as it is used to clear rooms, and can still perform out doors effectively.

[Beowulf]

Screw an Eotech, get an Aimpoint.... put a battery in it.... turn it on..... and forget about it for the rest of your deployment.

google, downrange TV.... use the search and type in " Aimpoint-the red dot solution.

It'll take you to a forum with a link to a presentation by Maj.[ret.] Freddie J. Blish on Aimpoints and it's good stuff.

That's a pretty enthusiastic endorsement.

I am curious, on what experience are you basing your recommendation?

[Fireball Sanchez]

Well, I bought my M2 about 5-6 years ago and I'm still on the original battery. That's impressive and the newer models have the new ACET technology which effectively doubles the battery life to tens of thousands of hours.

Granted, Im only a civilian and turn the sight on & off. My other friends EoTech's drink batteries like kool-aid and one of them has gone down, with the reticule just not showing up one day. We all thought it was weird and they did take care of it, but then further searching has shown that this is a problem with eotech and that this wasn't an isolated incident.
This was I believe before the Rev.F, but regardless there is ample evidence that of the two red dot sights, the Aimpoint has less troubles than the eotech and besides I can't stand the reticule, but thats just my opinion FWIW.

Look, there are thousands of them in use and many people like them, I bought an aimpoint and it's never let me down and I still haven't changed the battery.

[Desert*Fox]

well since their are like 20 modles of each sight with 1 would you guys think betbhe best to but on a saw

[Beowulf]

well since their are like 20 modles of each sight with 1 would you guys think betbhe best to but on a saw

dude... you are so hammered right now. Stop typing with your elbow.

[Frens]

dude... you are so hammered right now. Stop typing with your KNEES.

fixed for yourofl

[Beowulf]

Well, I bought my M2 about 5-6 years ago and I'm still on the original battery. That's impressive and the newer models have the new ACET technology which effectively doubles the battery life to tens of thousands of hours.

Granted, Im only a civilian and turn the sight on & off. My other friends EoTech's drink batteries like kool-aid and one of them has gone down, with the reticule just not showing up one day. We all thought it was weird and they did take care of it, but then further searching has shown that this is a problem with eotech and that this wasn't an isolated incident.
This was I believe before the Rev.F, but regardless there is ample evidence that of the two red dot sights, the Aimpoint has less troubles than the eotech and besides I can't stand the reticule, but thats just my opinion FWIW.

Look, there are thousands of them in use and many people like them, I bought an aimpoint and it's never let me down and I still haven't changed the battery.

Thats cool. I was just curious as to what you were basing your recommendation on.

Battery life is definitely something to be taken into consideration.

I like the wide field of view, and prefer the 1 MOA dot w/65 MOA ring of the EOtech as opposed to the 4 MOA dot on the aimpoint. (the comp m3 has a 2 MOA dot ifirc)

Eotech vs aimpoint is a big debate, but they are both great. It's just personal preference. Of course there is the ACOG to consider as well.

[Mordecai]

I have used the M249 with both the EOTech and Aimpoint and I prefer the EOTech on the SAW, mostly due to it have a wider field of view. I have also used M68's on my M4 and while it is better than no RD optic at all, I dont really care for them much. I have had failures in both the EOtech and M68 (anything that man makes is ****e to failure at some point) but find the EOTech more user friendly and an all around better sight for combat.

You will find varying opinions in the EOTech vs M68 debate and in the end it will come down to personal preference as Beowolf pointed out.

Crip

[SMGLee]

I like EOTech, I think there is no doubt especially over all the post I have written over all the internet forums.

that being said....

EOTech 552 or a decent 512 using lithium battery runs about 1000 hours and lithium battery are more stable than the standard alkaline. so if you stick a set of lithium AA into a 512, you are going to get a constant and stable usage of 1000 hours over a varity of climate and enviroment conditions.

The reason i like EOTech on SAW, it is because of the large 65MOA reticle, it is just that much easier to use in an area weapon.

most of the EOTech users complain of battery life and draining of battery like drinking kool-aide are those that bought into the 511/551 series sights that uses the N-Cell batteries. the N cell only come in alkaline form and it is one of the worst choice for a weapon sight battery. they are unstable and the battery life are short. as much as I love my EOTech, I HATE the 511/551 series of sights.

I curretnly run a 553 that utilize the CR123 batteries, I changed out the battery once a year desite the level of battery drain....some on forward operation area, change the battery once a month of every time they go on a big op. use the spare AA batteries to run the handheld video games....

[BrianT]

I've yet to see a m68 keep a zero after a decent amount of shooting on a SAW. We used to put them on because it beats the hell out of iron sights and you just rezero alot, but I haven't seen that sort of problem with EOTechs.

[James]

My other friends EoTech's drink batteries like kool-aid and one of them has gone down, with the reticule just not showing up one day. We all thought it was weird and they did take care of it, but then further searching has shown that this is a problem with eotech and that this wasn't an isolated incident.

They don't just quit working - when the battery is weak the reticle blinks when you turn it on, letting you know that the batteries are about to go.

[SMGLee]

They don't just quit working - when the battery is weak the reticle blinks when you turn it on, letting you know that the batteries are about to go.


In a way, I can understand EMT's statement.....we are manly man, we no need no stinking manual......:)

[Beowulf]

In a way, I can understand EMT's statement.....we are manly man, we no need no stinking manual......:)

haha.... bravo smash.

of course if the Ragnar gets it....ah nevermind.

Har p-)

[Pook2]

I'm not in the military but I've had my EOTech since Christmas of 2005 and have not changed the batteries yet. Then again I'm a nazi when it comes to using that thing and I only turn it on when I'm about to start shooting and as soon as I'm done and about to check the targets I turn it back off.

[tim003]

I like EOTech, I think there is no doubt especially over all the post I have written over all the internet forums.

that being said....

EOTech 552 or a decent 512 using lithium battery runs about 1000 hours and lithium battery are more stable than the standard alkaline. so if you stick a set of lithium AA into a 512, you are going to get a constant and stable usage of 1000 hours over a varity of climate and enviroment conditions.

The reason i like EOTech on SAW, it is because of the large 65MOA reticle, it is just that much easier to use in an area weapon.

most of the EOTech users complain of battery life and draining of battery like drinking kool-aide are those that bought into the 511/551 series sights that uses the N-Cell batteries. the N cell only come in alkaline form and it is one of the worst choice for a weapon sight battery. they are unstable and the battery life are short. as much as I love my EOTech, I HATE the 511/551 series of sights.

I curretnly run a 553 that utilize the CR123 batteries, I changed out the battery once a year desite the level of battery drain....some on forward operation area, change the battery once a month of every time they go on a big op. use the spare AA batteries to run the handheld video games....

You said all of that about Eotech just because you are working for L3 or a good friend of them :).

+1 for Eotech with AA lithium, but if someone give me a free Aimpoint I would use it too. IMO, they are both good optic just depend on personal preferences. I myself like the 65 MOA outer reticle, because one can use it as a reference for faster target acquistion.

[Scout223]

Aimpoint = 2moa or 4moa

10,000-80,000 hours of battery life depending on the model

Aimpoint comp4 uses 1 AA battery

[Pete031]

I've used the EoTech on a C6 (M240B). Worked fine. Never on a 249 (C9). We use the Elcan... I prefer it without a sight though.

[Winger]

I've used the EoTech on a C6 (M240B). Worked fine. Never on a 249 (C9). We use the Elcan... I prefer it without a sight though.

Indeed. The M145 works well. I would check it out.....if you have the money.

[SMGLee]

Elcan is okay, I always run into the eye relief problem when I shoot from asymmetric positions.

[Heazy]

i just got ordered a eotech 557. Should be here on friday. Next friday im going to the saw range, i'll be glad to tell you how it works out. :)

[Desert*Fox]

i just got ordered a eotech 557. Should be here on friday. Next friday im going to the saw range, i'll be glad to tell you how it works out. :) where you order it from? i worked with the 145 an 68 we only have 2 145 an i dont really like the 68 on a saw

[Virus]

Elcan is okay, I always run into the eye relief problem when I shoot from asymmetric positions.

The elcans we had on our m240b's I borderline hated. To me it was **** to use at night, it seemed to be so much darker than if I looked through my ACOG. Ah, let me clarify, night time AND low light conditions. Just imho.

[Heazy]

where you order it from? i worked with the 145 an 68 we only have 2 145 an i dont really like the 68 on a saw
Took a little bit of searching to find one in stock. I ordered from http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/, everywhere else is out or 4-6 week wait. Yeah, i generally don't like the 68, 145 is good but like SMGlee said i have trouble acquiring things with it in some positions.

[Winger]

The elcans we had on our m240b's I borderline hated. To me it was **** to use at night, it seemed to be so much darker than if I looked through my ACOG. Ah, let me clarify, night time AND low light conditions. Just imho.

What version of 145 were you issued? Reason I ask is that the new ones are supposed to have improved view for dusk and dawn conditions.

[Virus]

To be honest I do not know. I only really bothered myself with the 240 itself. I will say that I've used it during a daylight OP, for about a 4 hours straight, and boy it worked then. All I know is that it was a regular 145 with the sunscreen honeycomb shade thing on the front part. Gave everything a somewhat purpleish haze when looked through.

[goose36]

i rate the eotech on any platform, i had a compM2 on the start of my trip but switched to the eotech after i used my mates, better field of view...way better. i'm using a elcan at the moment and dont have have any problems in low light, some people love em, some hate them.

[Seiran]

My brother Chris used an EOTech 552 on his Para and loved it. The only time he took it off was when they re-issued him a 145 later in his deployment.

[Virus]

Well like a lot of things, I guess it all just boils down to personal preference. I've no doubt they are all proven optics. But...I <3 my ACOG. I do own a EOTech, but it was bought from a friend and I was not allowed to use it on my issue weapon. :/

[Pete031]

I love ACOG's. Especially the ones with the small holo sight on top.
I hate the Elcan.

[Virus]

I love ACOG's. Especially the ones with the small holo sight on top.
I hate the Elcan.

twas the one I had, but it was a bitch if you lost the cap to the J-Point. But if you zeroed it right, worked pretty decent.

[crazyman]

EO Techs' on M249s is pretty much the standard in 2 SCR. Personally i think they are a lot more rugged than a M68, but thats just my opinion.