Too scary: Ron Paul: I hear members of Congress saying "if we could only nuke Iran"

[wildcat]

Ron Paul: I hear members of Congress saying "if we could only nuke Iran"

Very scary to here that coming from congress, but then I not surprised either.


Congressman Ron Paul has warned millions of radio listeners that the US is heading into a deadly confrontation with Iran, revealing his disbelief at members of Congress who have openly voiced support for a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the country.

"If we do (attack) it is going to be a disaster," the Congressman told the Alex Jones show this Thursday.

"I was astounded to see on one of the networks the other day that the debate was not are we going to attack? but are we going to attack before or after the election?" Paul continued.

The Congressman recently voiced his concern over House Congressional Resolution 362 which he has dubbed a 'Virtual Iran War Resolution'.

"If that comes up it is demanding that the President put on an absolute blockade of the entire country of Iran, and punish any country or any business group around the world if they trade with Iran." Paul told listeners.

Experts have predicted gas will rise to $6 per gallon if the resolution passes, Paul believes that may happen anyway just by anticipation.

"The frightening thing is they say they are taking no options off the table, even nuclear first strike." The Congressman stated.

Paul believes from talking with his contacts in and around Congress that a strike on Iran has already been green lighted.

"That is my sense because the Democratic leadership in the House are proposing no resistance whatsoever, we saw this when a supplemental bill came up and the President asked for $107 billion for the war, the Democrat leadership gave them $162 billion.

It is still totally bewildering to me when I see men and women in the Congress that I know and like doing this just to get along. Most of them will say "I agree with you on all you say but the Iranians are bad people and they might attack us some day... I hear members of Congress saying 'if we could only nuke them'."

Ron Paul also spoke in detail about his new Campaign For Liberty Group and his views on the upcoming election.


http://infowars.net/articles/july2008/040708RonPaul2.htm

[Zoomie]

Ron Paul and Alex Jones. . .need I say more? :roll:

[LineDoggie]

I'm sure when his adjusts his Tinfoil chapeau just right, Paul does hear voices.......

David Berkowitz did as well

[wildcat]

I'm sure when his adjusts his Tinfoil chapeau just right, Paul does hear voices.......

David Berkowitz did as well

LOL...I am not a big fan of Ron Paul, then I not a big fan of politicians period.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Ron Paul and Alex Jones. . .need I say more? :roll:

The very fact that Ron Paul is on Alex Jones' show should tell you something.

[SilentType]

There are certainly those out there that would like to see Iran go up in a mushroom cloud and I'm sure there are those in Iran that would like to see the same thing happen to the USA.

However, both nations need the other whether they like it or not for economic reasons so we better all work things out and play nice.

[Adux]

If USA, Iran and Israel can sort out their mess, they can turn their eye on the real problem

[Snoshi]

Okay, for instance. I don't really know Alex Jones. So, tell me what you all mean.

Alex Jones is a troofer... Thats is enough for me.

[brainplay]

Taken out of context...again. Most of the MP population has at one point voiced the old "just glass the damn place and be done with it" phrase out of frustration. Its been said about every country that is a pain in the rear. Its not to be taken seriously. Just don't tell this to a reporter. It will blow their mind, and thats messy. Think of the janitors please.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Okay, for instance. I don't really know Alex Jones. So, tell me what you all mean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29


Alexander Emerick Jones (born February 11 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_11), 1974 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974)) is an American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) paleoconservative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservative)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-0) radio host (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_radio) and filmmaker who is known for his outspoken opposition to internationalist organizations such as the United Nations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) and World Bank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Bank). He is described by many as a conspiracy theorist,[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-2)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-3)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-4)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-5)[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-6)[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-AP-7) and has been accused by left-wing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics) groups of being a disinformation operative diverting the disaffected toward far right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right) conspiracism.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-8)[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-9)



...




Also in 2000, Jones and assistant Mike Hanson infiltrated the Bohemian Grove (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove) and filmed the opening weekend ceremony, known as the Cremation of Care (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation_of_Care), a mock human sacrifice in front of a 40' stone owl, which he believes has Pagan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagan) origins. His footage can be viewed in his film Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-82095917705734983&q=Bohemian+grove&total=1249&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1).
On June 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_8), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), while he was on his way to cover a meeting of the Bilderberg group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_group) in Ottawa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa), Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada), Jones was stopped and detained at the Ottawa airport by Canadian authorities who confiscated his passport, camera equipment, and most of his belongings. He was later released.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-17)
On September 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_8), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007) Jones was arrested while protesting at Sixth Avenue and Forty-Eighth Street in New York, NY. He was charged with operating a bullhorn without a permit. In addition two others were cited for disorderly conduct when his group crashed a live TV show featuring Geraldo Rivera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldo_Rivera). One of Jones’s fellow protesters said "It was ... guerrilla information warfare.”[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-18)


In June 2001, Jones launched Prisonplanet.com. He also maintains a network of related websites, with a central site at Infowars.com. In April 2004, Jones debuted Prisonplanet.tv, a subscription-based site which provides access to his films, radio interview archives, clips from his cable access television show, and digital versions of books he has written. His affiliates run Infowars.net and Infowarsnetwork.com, a hosting service. Jones also maintains Jonesreport.com (a take on the Drudge Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drudge_Report)).



He has been featured as a prominent figure of the 9/11 Truth Movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Truth_Movement) in such publications as The New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times),[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-29) Vanity Fair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_%28magazine%29), and Popular Mechanics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Mechanics).[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-press-30)
In September 2007, he was part of the History Channel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_Channel) documentary 9/11: Fact or Fiction, which examined the various conspiracy theories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories) espoused on the Internet.
In 2007, Jones appeared on the BSkyB program, "Conspiracies", in which he discussed the supposed power structure of The Illuminati, its New World Order plan and the various symbolism allegedly worshiped by the group.

So yeah he's basically into the whole 9/11 was part of a plan by Bush and the Iluminati to take over the world and bring about one world government deal.


(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-18)

[Zoomie]

So can you tell me why this is so ludicrous?
Before you go too far, I suggest you (re)read the forum rules again, particularly this one:


21. If you are a rabid believer in any 'the space aliens/Halliburton/the Jews/the government did it' theory about 9/11- don't post it here. We've heard it all before and we're sick to the back teeth of them. Punch yourself in the face instead.

[BloodyTalon]

So can you tell me why this is so ludicrous?
Cuz it implies that the government is a flawless, perfect machine that is able to control every part of civilization like a videogame. If you can't find anything wrong with that assumption, than you've been living under a rock your entire life.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Good thing I'm not a rabid believer then, huh? I was just curious how fast you could dismiss my post as crap. Not long at all. Nice job.

Richard Nixon couldn't keep Watergate under wraps.

If the President can't keep a simple burglary covered up, I doubt the President could keep a massive conspiracy involving thousands of people under wraps.

[shocker1]

Let us get back on topic and forget Jones for a second. What did Ron say besides the hear say nuke strike dreams of some congressmen? Do you think gas prices will fall, do you think the dollar will strengthen if we attack Iran? Will a war with Iran improve the situation in the Middle East? I can't stand the Iranian Mullahs and their hate machine, I also can not stand this government we have here at the moment. I do not take as fact a damn thing this current Admin says and I supported it at one time. So in the end besides the venue Paul chose for his rant, what do you find to be inaccurate about his opinion?

What about our history with the Iranian people? Not something to be proud of at all. Even the moderates there turn on us for our double dealing. One decade we sell them weapons to fund Central American CIA wars. Another time we may destabilize an elected government. Hey we are the God Blessed US of ****in A, everything we do is righteous and true. In the end though Iran could take the high road and make us look bad. They will not do that however, the religious hate will win in the end. So in a sense taking a purely Ron Paul stance can be counterproductive. I do know we could handle things a whole lot better and be in much better shape.

[Sloppy Joe2]

I'm just saying the assumption that George could mastermind a huge conspiracy is a stretch. He can't even use proper English. But...how do 3 buildings fall with 2 impacts? I don't get it.
quit while your head, please for your own sake.


Let us get back on topic and forget Jones for a second. What did Ron say besides the hear say nuke strike dreams of some congressmen? Do you think gas prices will fall, do you think the dollar will strengthen if we attack Iran? Will a war with Iran improve the situation in the Middle East? I can't stand the Iranian Mullahs and their hate machine, I also can not stand this government we have here at the moment. I do not take as fact a damn thing this current Admin says and I supported it at one time. So in the end besides the venue Paul chose for his rant, what do you find to be inaccurate about his opinion?

What about our history with the Iranian people? Not something to be proud of at all. Even the moderates there turn on us for our double dealing. One decade we sell them weapons to fund Central American CIA wars. Another time we may destabilize an elected government. Hey we are the God Blessed US of ****in A, everything we do is righteous and true. In the end though Iran could take the high road and make us look bad. They will not do that however, the religious hate will win in the end. So in a sense taking a purely Ron Paul stance can be counterproductive. I do know we could handle things a whole lot better and be in much better shape.

well said my man, especially the US of ****in A part p-)

[Alpheus]

Search for the Popular Mechanics rebuttal of the conspiracy theories. And as for tower seven, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7485331.stm

[Calanen]

Alex Jones is a troofer... Thats is enough for me.

Ah, you are probably part of the Zionist conspiracy too, sheeple!

[crod2487]

Alex Jones is a faker. I am willing to bet he doesnt beleive nearly any of the **** he says he does. Listen to his show, and watch him ont he street. Hes a peformer and makes a living off his over the top character. I say this becuase he seems like hes having a good time, like actually enjoying preaching what he preaches. If i for one, thought my government had complete control over me and all this one world government **** I would be pissed and I would probably try to start a revolt or join one. He on the other hand laughs about it. At the end of the day he gets a paycheck from his GOVERNMENT FUNDED radio station and then gets royalties for DVDS and books. He is nothing more than a crass oppurtunist. People like Alex Jones exist becuase at some point in America alot of people stopped raising their children properly and compensated by spoiling them and telling them how "special" they were. These neglected little bastards grow up with an inflated sense of self and actually beleive that the US government can 1) afford to man and equip people to moniter 300 million peoples daily lives and electronic conversations 2) that anyone in the federal government knows (or even cares) they exist. Another by product of such neglection as a child is the infatuation with fantasy, and television. Coupled with no parental mentoring or enforcement of any realism and you get 40 year old rockstars (green day) who actually beleived we had hundreds upon hundreds of helicopters and expert high rick search and rescue people to come to New Orleans within 48 hours of the worst tropical hurricane in decades while already fighting a two front war on the other side of the earth. These are same people who think that our government orchestrated an attack on manhatten using remote control/hollographic/drone/ armored jets manned by our leaders from a bunker in washington, and thousands of people who participated have been either been silenced or payed off....yet they dont find it odd how easy it was for the world to find out about our president getting a blowjob from his chubby intern.

Ron Paul...well i look at him like the old uncle everyone has thats so ****ing crazy you just smile at him and say "really, no ****!?", and sit him down in the corner away from the small children.

[BloodyTalon]

I'm just saying the assumption that George could mastermind a huge conspiracy is a stretch. He can't even use proper English. But...how do 3 buildings fall with 2 impacts? I don't get it.
Cuz the third building was hit with so much debris that ended up like this:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9238/wtc7smokeej2nv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So...when are you gonna just come out and admit you are part of the 9/11 "Truth" crowd

[WarriorMonk]

A lot of things look suspicious - and a lot of things haven't been seen before - and a lot of things may just happen to look alike or very similar.

[Sloppy Joe2]

i like that crod2487, you should post more often.

[shocker1]

I think you guys should leave the 911 questions out of this.. So let's forget all this before all of our heads explode and keep the topic on Iran. Next thing you know the Government will link Iran to Sunni AQ. Oh wait, too late for that me thinks.

BTW Alex's radio show is much more fun than Rush's. I have seen UFO's and heard about Alex on Coast to Coast. Good stuff that.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Alex Jones is a faker. I am willing to bet he doesnt beleive nearly any of the **** he says he does. Listen to his show, and watch him ont he street. Hes a peformer and makes a living off his over the top character. I say this becuase he seems like hes having a good time, like actually enjoying preaching what he preaches. If i for one, thought my government had complete control over me and all this one world government **** I would be pissed and I would probably try to start a revolt or join one. He on the other hand laughs about it. At the end of the day he gets a paycheck from his GOVERNMENT FUNDED radio station and then gets royalties for DVDS and books. He is nothing more than a crass oppurtunist. People like Alex Jones exist becuase at some point in America alot of people stopped raising their children properly and compensated by spoiling them and telling them how "special" they were. These neglected little bastards grow up with an inflated sense of self and actually beleive that the US government can 1) afford to man and equip people to moniter 300 million peoples daily lives and electronic conversations 2) that anyone in the federal government knows (or even cares) they exist. Another by product of such neglection as a child is the infatuation with fantasy, and television. Coupled with no parental mentoring or enforcement of any realism and you get 40 year old rockstars (green day) who actually beleived we had hundreds upon hundreds of helicopters and expert high rick search and rescue people to come to New Orleans within 48 hours of the worst tropical hurricane in decades while already fighting a two front war on the other side of the earth. These are same people who think that our government orchestrated an attack on manhatten using remote control/hollographic/drone/ armored jets manned by our leaders from a bunker in washington, and thousands of people who participated have been either been silenced or payed off....yet they dont find it odd how easy it was for the world to find out about our president getting a blowjob from his chubby intern.


And as soon as a Democrat is president the government will instantly become clean and good and a great institution.

[shocker1]

Megaraptor;3367804']And as soon as a Democrat is president the government will instantly become clean and good and a great institution.
Really? So Alex was pro government during Ruby Ridge, Waco and the Oklahoma City bombing? I doubt that seriously, that is too much juicy stuff for him to pass up.

Give it up theamerican76, you are with us or you are with the terrorists. No middle ground for dissenting opinions on this issue. Period.

[BloodyTalon]

And the building made of glass stayed up? wow. well aimed debris. What is the other side then, the 9/11 perpetuate lies crowd? I am not part of any crowd, I just don't know.
And yet you have no problem assuming that it is all part of a government conspiracy even when facts point otherwise. Fancy that.

Building 7 was hit by significantly more debris from the towers than any of the building in the vicinity, include the "building made of glass" (i'm not even going to go into detail whats wrong with that phrase). They caused a failure of the sprinkler systems in the building and led to an out of control fire that eventually burned it down.

[shocker1]

Stop discussing 911 and steel buildings burning down. Let's talk about bombing Iran in a first strike scenario. That is much more interesting and not covered by forum rules.

[BloodyTalon]

Stop discussing 911 and steel buildings burning down. Let's talk about bombing Iran in a first strike scenario. That is much more interesting and not covered by forum rules.
Cuz there are literally dozens of threads in the past couple months alone centered around how everyone thinks there's gonna be a war with Iran and the only thing that sets this thread apart is that it has a lovely nutjob slant to it c/o Alex Jones and Co.

[shocker1]

I don't care if Ollie North talks about striking Iran. damn he does that every night on Fox. You know he just follows orders. The fact is what we are talking about is true and not conspiracy which BTW is descriptive of some felonies. What I see is America doing everything it can to provoke a military response from Iran, I see Iran doing the same thing. I am a sensible citizen who wants the madness to end. On good terms, if I can make one Congressman from Georgia question our diplomatic methods. Maybe things will change here and the ball for starting **** will be with Iran.

[wildcat]

Stop discussing 911 and steel buildings burning down. Let's talk about bombing Iran in a first strike scenario. That is much more interesting and not covered by forum rules.

I x2 that one, I not a Ron Paul fan, but a first strike against Iran is scary, and people to be thinking that in government, as our representatives is every more scary, I just goes to show, how little they seem to value human life, and label every one in Iran as evil. Nuclear weapons are a last strike weapon / equal response weapon, the destructive power on the innocent, is just to great.

[BloodyTalon]

I don't care if Ollie North talks about striking Iran. damn he does that every night on Fox. You know he just follows orders. The fact is what we are talking about is true and not conspiracy which BTW is descriptive of some felonies. What I see is America doing everything it can to provoke a military response from Iran, I see Iran doing the same thing. I am a sensible citizen who wants the madness to end. On good terms, if I can make one Congressman from Georgia question our diplomatic methods. Maybe things will change here and the ball for starting **** will be with Iran.
I love how you take everything Ron Paul says as the ultimate truth. Even when it is on a...err..."creative" site like Infowars.

Again, the only thing that separates this thread from the unrelenting march of "are we gonna attack Iran?" threads is simply that...

A: It involves Ron Paul; a politician who you are so fanatically supportive of that he could come out tomorrow and claim that the world is flat and you would accept it as if it came from God Himself.

B: It involves Infowars; one of the many sites run by the nutcase Alex Jones, which of course throws everything about the article into doubt. Besides, it isn't uncommon for Alex Jones and his ilk to make crap up in order to sell their "OMG TEH GUBERMENTZ IZ OUT TA GETS US!" shtick. I even remember reading one article that claimed JFK knew about the (imaginary) 9/11 conspiracy.

[shocker1]

I love how you take everything Ron Paul says as the ultimate truth. Even when it is on a...err..."creative" site like Infowars.

Again, the only thing that separates this thread from the unrelenting march of "are we gonna attack Iran?" threads is simply that...

A: It involves Ron Paul; a politician who you are so fanatically supportive of that he could come out tomorrow and claim that the world is flat and you would accept it as if it came from God Himself.

B: It involves Infowars; one of the many sites run by the nutcase Alex Jones, which of course throws everything about the article into doubt. Besides, it isn't uncommon for Alex Jones and his ilk to make crap up in order to sell their "OMG TEH GUBERMENTZ IZ OUT TA GETS US!" shtick. I even remember reading one article that claimed JFK knew about the (imaginary) 9/11 conspiracy.
What a load of crap you got here. where did I say I take everything Ron Paul says as truth? Did I not describe this nuke Iran wish in Congress as hear say? So just kiss my ass you turd, just because I like some of what Paul says does not mean he is God. He is a ****in DC politician and all that entails. I guess you just take everything DC says as truth. Ass..

[Flagg]

Get back on topic.......and STAY on topic, or the thread gets closed.

[seraosha]

What a load of crap you got here. where did I say I take everything Ron Paul says as truth? Did I not describe this nuke Iran wish in Congress as hear say? So just kiss my ass you turd, just because I like some of what Paul says does not mean he is God. He is a ****in DC politician and all that entails. I guess you just take everything DC says as truth. Ass..

Lol, stopped drinking the koolaid a little late there man. Just own up to your Ron Paul is the second coming schtick...C'mon it was only a few months ago.

Anyway, I don't think a nuclear first strike is in the cards. Conventional...maybe.

[LORD-eX-Bu]

Ron Lawls :lol:

[Gfunk]

Jones' belief in the 9/11 conspiracy doesn't discredit what Paul is saying. Like big media is really going to let Paul speak the truth on their stations. He barely got media time when he was actively running for the presidency. Thank God we have people like Ron Paul in power who won't quit fighting our bloated military machine.

[annihilation]

Lets hope it doesn't come to this. Their is nothing to gain for the US, if we attack Iran. Its not worth it in anyway. Even if they do get the nuke, its not worth us attacking.

[SBL]

And the building made of glass stayed up? wow. well aimed debris. What is the other side then, the 9/11 perpetuate lies crowd? I am not part of any crowd, I just don't know.
The building is not made of glass. Idiot.

[shocker1]

Lol, stopped drinking the koolaid a little late there man. Just own up to your Ron Paul is the second coming schtick...C'mon it was only a few months ago.

Anyway, I don't think a nuclear first strike is in the cards. Conventional...maybe.
Oh not the koolaid reverse label maker. In your post you have said nothing of any sort that resembles intelligent thinking. I mean really, koolaid, no nuke first strike just the old conventional. Like that is ok and a good thing. Jesus H what the hell is wrong with you people? It is like a flock of birds flying in unison right into a glass. The herd mentality is strong in here.

Instead of asking questions and debating what effects attacking Iran will have on each of us. You attack my support for Paul. Hey that is fine, let's trade koolaide, tin foil, commie ect barbs, enjoy the increased peace and prosperity the last 8 years of wonderful blind Patriotism has brought us. No need for serious things, lets talk about Flag pins, race, immigration status and gay rights. It is ok that economy is sucking us dry, the war is funded with more money backed by another cut in the value of the dollar, our health requires a mortgage, our industry is not forward thinking and our government is a disappointment at best. So long as I gots my cable, internet and da beer store I don't care about the details of what my Government is doing.

[WarriorMonk]

with the way Ron Paul distinguishes himself from all the other candidates (by saying REALLY REALLY REALLY different things, most of them honest), and with the crap situation the country's in, how hard is it to think that quite a few people are going to flock to Paul, not McCain and Obama, who the corporate media knows are really just going to either pander to collectivist or statist interests.

[crod2487]

[quote=BloodyTalon;3367854]I love how you take everything Ron Paul says as the ultimate truth. Even when it is on a...err..."creative" site like Infowars.

Again, the only thing that separates this thread from the unrelenting march of "are we gonna attack Iran?" threads is simply that...

A: It involves Ron Paul; a politician who you are so fanatically supportive of that he could come out tomorrow and claim that the world is flat and you would accept it as if it came from God Himself."

Wait!!...everyone knows its basic Libertarian custom that "God" as in supernatural deity is a myth. Not only that, beleiving or entertaining the idea that one may exist deduces you to a child and erases every intellectual and noble accomplish you have acheived. It also makes you a lesser Libertarian/Paultard. Allowing people to get high off PSP and buy an RPG is nowhere near as irrational as alluding there might be *gasp* a God.

[crod2487]

Jones' belief in the 9/11 conspiracy doesn't discredit what Paul is saying. Like big media is really going to let Paul speak the truth on their stations. He barely got media time when he was actively running for the presidency. Thank God we have people like Ron Paul in power who won't quit fighting our bloated military machine.


you know i heard other paultards share this same sentiment. I thought about it and words or a counter argument didnt come to mind...only images. Right now there a young Arab, Slavic, Philipino man who feels hatred towards you and your country combined with religous fervor. He is seriously thinking about martyring himself in the act of killing Americans. He then turns on the television and realizes two things...the first is he and people like him will die in vain and not much more. Two, if he joins the ranks of organizations who share his hatred he will almost certainly face death...just not the death he so desires. He knows that eventually before he ever comes close to a real red blooded american with any sort of explosive or weapon he would lose a short negotiation with the buisness end of a hellfire/tomohawk missle or a few 5.56 m4 rounds in some ****ty ****ing mountain where no one will see him die and no one will really care. He probably wont even get a proper muslim burial. Whats sets this thought process in this dudes head is not Ron Pauls advocation of diplomacy and fear of blowback...its not his isolation foriegn policy. Its seeing the bodies of mullah omar and other taliban leaders charred and bloated. Its seeing expensive missiles level training areas and ****ty huts belonging to the AQ. So now thank that "bloated military machine" becuase just there act of existing in the worlds eye is saving not only our lives but convincing many young men to save theirs and pursue a more legitimate form of employment.

[WarriorMonk]

you know i heard other paultards share this same sentiment. I thought about it and words or a counter argument didnt come to mind...only images. Right now there a young Arab, Slavic, Philipino man who feels hatred towards you and your country combined with religous fervor. He is seriously thinking about martyring himself in the act of killing Americans. He then turns on the television and realizes two things...the first is he and people like him will die in vain and not much more. Two, if he joins the ranks of organizations who share his hatred he will almost certainly face death...just not the death he so desires. He knows that eventually before he ever comes close to a real red blooded american with any sort of explosive or weapon he would lose a short negotiation with the buisness end of a hellfire/tomohawk missle or a few 5.56 m4 rounds in some ****ty ****ing mountain where no one will see him die and no one will really care. He probably wont even get a proper muslim burial. Whats sets this thought process in this dudes head is not Ron Pauls advocation of diplomacy and fear of blowback...its not his isolation foriegn policy. Its seeing the bodies of mullah omar and other taliban leaders charred and bloated. Its seeing expensive missiles level training areas and ****ty huts belonging to the AQ. So now thank that "bloated military machine" becuase just there act of existing in the worlds eye is saving not only our lives but convincing many young men to save theirs and pursue a more legitimate form of employment.

You do realize that Paul HIMSELF, authored the Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 in response to the 9-11 attacks? He wanted to go into Afghanistan to whack Osama bin Laden, my uncle's killer, to bring that creep to justice, something that people like Bush and McCain have conveniently forgot about. Paul is against the idea of pre-emptive war, which already makes no sense whatsoever.

[Annihilator9112]

Jones' belief in the 9/11 conspiracy doesn't discredit what Paul is saying. Like big media is really going to let Paul speak the truth on their stations. He barely got media time when he was actively running for the presidency. Thank God we have people like Ron Paul in power who won't quit fighting our bloated military machine.

A man who is smart and knows the truth :) more people should watch ron pauls speeches.

[Sloppy Joe2]

something that people like Bush and McCain have conveniently forgot about. so i guess all those order and priorities given to soldiers in combat zones to capture or kill HVTs is just for ****s and giggles. just because you dont hear about it or seem unfilled with progress made doesnt change the fact that that it is still our top priority to go after these men.

BTW i am sorry about your uncle

[Gat0r]

Aduiem you can surely understand why he, I and many others believe that, Osama's organization was 100% responsible for 9/11 and he's still out there most likely in Waziristan, we never had an overwhelming ground force in Astan and yet we invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with all of that with over 100k troops, Saddam was strung up but the perpetuator of 9/11 is still at large, that just doesnt sit right with me.

[Limeyfellow]

If USA, Iran and Israel can sort out their mess, they can turn their eye on the real problem

Yes, the Belgiums!

[seraosha]

blah blah blah

Dude, seriously, just own up to your desire to gobble the corn out of Ron Paul's poop and move on. The guy was a lost cause from day one.

But can you link me to his "just say no to preemptive strike" shenanigans?
Always up for a giggle.

[shocker1]

Dude, seriously, just own up to your desire to gobble the corn out of Ron Paul's poop and move on. The guy was a lost cause from day one.

But can you link me to his "just say no to preemptive strike" shenanigans?
Always up for a giggle.
DUDE;
It is people like you who eat up the ****s and giggles that allow corruption in government to run unchecked. Laughing away while real problems are getting way out of hand. I see what you think of my opinions with " blah blah blah" bull ****. That is fine I actually care about your opinion if you vote cause it effects me. Do you laugh at out of control deficit spending? Do you laugh at the prices you pay for things going up? Do you laugh at private companies being granted Law Enforcement Powers over you? Do you laugh at unelected individuals through political appointments and think tanks having more sway over your leaders than you? If so I am glad you can afford to laugh. I hope you are still laughing when the dollar hits parity with the Peso. I guess that will warrant a cheap shot about immigration from such an intelligent mindset such as yours.

Are you just following the crowd into bomb them Iranians? Once again I ask do you think this will make things better? Do you think preemptive war with Iran is the right thing to do? Is this the answer to our FEAR?

Also please keep your nasty fetishes out of the political discussion please. Not sure what you are watching to make you come up with eating corn from crap. Is the OMG the horror of supporting Paul giving you the thin dirties or something? Not sure what I am supposed to own up to when it comes to supporting Ron Paul. I think I am one of the few people on this board that made a good argument for him. You on the other hand provide no basis for me to change my mind.

Ron Paul to me stood for all the angry people who actually take time and learn about what our elected government is doing. I suggest you spend some time reading bills, think tank publications and watching boring videos. Instead of taking the word of second hand reporting which has made you apply knee jerk reactions to important issues. So in both your posts you gave us nothing but the motivation for me to post more than usual. Thank you for that contribution.

[Umbro2914]

Ron Paul to me stood for all the angry people who actually take time and learn about what our elected government is doing. I suggest you spend some time reading bills,
I think that preety much defines Ron Paul Supporters.
How many of you people actually knew about this: President Bush pushed a Bill through Congress which gives himself and his whitehouse gang retroactive immunity for possible war crimes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHQ7Prwh7Gc
Ron Paul ovbisley voted against it: "We in Congress have an obligation to pass legislation that ensures that process will go forward. What Congress has done in this bill, though, is to tell the President "you take charge of this, we reject our Constitutional duties." I urge my colleagues to reject this ill-conceived piece of legislation."

Whenever someones says the name Ron Paul people always dismiss it and give little attention to the topic, because he's labled as a radical, as an ultra conservative, as an isolationists... well read up a little on his views before totally dismissing him as a phony.

[Gfunk]

you know i heard other paultards share this same sentiment. I thought about it and words or a counter argument didnt come to mind...only images. Right now there a young Arab, Slavic, Philipino man who feels hatred towards you and your country combined with religous fervor. He is seriously thinking about martyring himself in the act of killing Americans. He then turns on the television and realizes two things...the first is he and people like him will die in vain and not much more. Two, if he joins the ranks of organizations who share his hatred he will almost certainly face death...just not the death he so desires. He knows that eventually before he ever comes close to a real red blooded american with any sort of explosive or weapon he would lose a short negotiation with the buisness end of a hellfire/tomohawk missle or a few 5.56 m4 rounds in some ****ty ****ing mountain where no one will see him die and no one will really care. He probably wont even get a proper muslim burial. Whats sets this thought process in this dudes head is not Ron Pauls advocation of diplomacy and fear of blowback...its not his isolation foriegn policy. Its seeing the bodies of mullah omar and other taliban leaders charred and bloated. Its seeing expensive missiles level training areas and ****ty huts belonging to the AQ. So now thank that "bloated military machine" becuase just there act of existing in the worlds eye is saving not only our lives but convincing many young men to save theirs and pursue a more legitimate form of employment.

Projecting American military might in order to makes our enemies think twice should never include preemptive war. What a horrible policy for this nation to set forth. What happened to setting an example for the rest of the world? America is looking more like an empire and less like a republic everyday.

I don't sleep at night because of some exaggerated overseas threat, but instead because of what my government is doing in response to that threat. Wasting trillions in American resources, bankrupting the country, all in the name of "defense". What a joke.

[LineDoggie]

Take some Lunestas then....

[crod2487]

Projecting American military might in order to makes our enemies think twice should never include preemptive war. What a horrible policy for this nation to set forth. What happened to setting an example for the rest of the world? America is looking more like an empire and less like a republic everyday.

I don't sleep at night because of some exaggerated overseas threat, but instead because of what my government is doing in response to that threat. Wasting trillions in American resources, bankrupting the country, all in the name of "defense". What a joke.


First of all dont even bring up bankrupting or the cost of this war. If you wanna bitch about the cost of war and its threat to our funds then you better bash universal health care first. That **** will cost exponentially more. Now that would be wasting resources and bankrupting everyone. I wasnt referring to our policy towards Iraq just the GWOT in general. Iraq although pre=emptivwe was certianly justified. We had a man who 1) used WMDS in the past. 2) threatended the life of our CiC 3) told NATO and UN to **** off when asked if he has WMD's. This guy had every oppurtunity to prove a positive and we would of never invaded. we couldnt of. If he let the world put on the white doctors glove and search his darkest places we would of known the intel was bad.

[crod2487]

Ive been reading this and find it quite funny....Is there "corruption" government? sure. theres laundering, perjury, and of course escorts....but i dont see how there could be mass corruption bordering on conspiracy at the highest levels of government. certainly not saying we shouldnt take everything they say as gospel but that doesnt mean any of you assholes can just make stupid **** up becuase you dont like who sits in the fancy leather chairs. thats just being gay. If you think Jones is right and theires a NWO or illuminati then ****ing prove it...Stop being an annoying little **** and and give me like a tape recording of George Bush saying he hates blacks and other minorities and is personally poking holes in condoms that are being distributed to the ghetto pharmacies so all the poor people get HIV and pregnant. or get me a picture of **** cheney or petreaus sacrificing a virgin or sum ****....just something besides all this hyperbole.