Toddlers who dislike spicy food are racists, UK's NCB says

[muck]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/education/2261307/Toddlers-who-dislike-spicy-food-racist,-say-report.html


Toddlers who dislike spicy food 'racist'

Toddlers who turn their noses up at spicy food from overseas could be branded racists by a Government-sponsored agency.

The National Children's Bureau, which receives £12 million a year, mainly from Government funded organisations, has issued guidance to play leaders and nursery teachers advising them to be alert for racist incidents among youngsters in their care.
This could include a child of as young as three who says "yuk" in response to being served unfamiliar foreign food.
The guidance by the NCB is designed to draw attention to potentially-racist attitudes in youngsters from a young age.

It alerts playgroup leaders that even babies can not be ignored in the drive to root out prejudice as they can "recognise different people in their lives".
The 366-page guide for staff in charge of pre-school children, called Young Children and Racial Justice, warns: "Racist incidents among children in early years settings tend to be around name-calling, casual thoughtless comments and peer group relationships."
It advises nursery teachers to be on the alert for childish abuse such as: "blackie", "Pakis", "those people" or "they smell".
The guide goes on to warn that children might also "react negatively to a culinary tradition other than their own by saying 'yuk'".
Staff are told: "No racist incident should be ignored. When there is a clear racist incident, it is necessary to be specific in condemning the action."
Warning that failing to pick children up on their racist attitudes could instil prejudice, the NCB adds that if children "reveal negative attitudes, the lack of censure may indicate to the child that there is nothing unacceptable about such attitudes".
Nurseries are encouraged to report as many incidents as possible to their local council. The guide added: "Some people think that if a large number of racist incidents are reported, this will reflect badly on the institution. In fact, the opposite is the case."
Are they that far now that choosy white children are racists just because they don't like a spicy meal? It's no good idea to feed toddlers with spicy dishes at all, by the way.

On a side note, shouldn't they better check on non-white children as this report indicates:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article4220467.ece


White children most likely to be bullied

White children are much more likely to be bullied than any other ethnic group - reversing racial stereotypes surrounding playground abuse, Government research indicates.

[smalandian]

Not a little bit far-fetched? I recognize the reasoning, which is like "making a bird of a feather". Institutions, such as those with their PC mentality is one of all things in the society that fuel racism.

Wondering how long it will take for them to understand it.

[Supplanter]

The 366-page guide for staff in charge of pre-school children, called Young Children and Racial Justice,
Did someone get paid by the page:bash:


It advises nursery teachers to be on the alert for childish abuse such as: "blackie", "Pakis", "those people" or "they smell".
I know that Paki is considered a slur but I have a real question, if an Afghan is from Afghanistan, a Tajik is from Tajikistan, an Uzbek is from Uzbekistan doesn't it stand to reason that a Paki is from Pakistan?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I have a feeling this is one 'government funded' body that just lined itself up for the chop.

[oldsoak]

Preferably kneck and b*llux.
Children are so damn changeable that I'd hesistate to say a particular child is potentially racist.

[Rakki]

Kids tend to pick up on adult prejudices pretty quickly since they don't have much of a moral compass to make decisions on... but geez, while some familiarity with foreign food and culture is of course, a good idea, shoving it down kids' throat in the name of political correctness is just a recipe for disaster.

[DuckRat]

I know that Paki is considered a slur but I have a real question, if an Afghan is from Afghanistan, a Tajik is from Tajikistan, an Uzbek is from Uzbekistan doesn't it stand to reason that a Paki is from Pakistan?

As Pakistani is the correct demonym, it's totally viable that 'Paki' is used as a slang or slur term.

Is it just me or would a member of an ethnic minority be labeled as a racist for turning their nose up at fish and chips? I somehow doubt it.

[helomech]

I wonder if/when the people of the UK are going scream "Enough!" with all this out of control political correctness;seems like there's a new story that comes out every couple of weeks

:-(

[ex1cdo]

Now we know why racism exists, insufficient culinary adventurism at an early age.

[wagon]

"Here we are at the National Childrens Bureau." says the office manager to a new worker. "Please pick up your bong and weed from security and proceed to the policy room." she says.

"What are we doing today?" says the new recruit.

"Have your toke first!" said the boss.

"Now, lets write our childcare policy." said the boss, as she puffed.

[PeterRJG]

Jeez, does anyone who wrote that BS of their own even have kids of their own?

[Calanen]

I have a feeling this is one 'government funded' body that just lined itself up for the chop.

No way, in Newspeak Wussy Euro Londonistan, they would get the Order of the Dhimmi from the Queen for this outstanding achievement. I applaud them in this effort, and I think that you must be a racist nazi homophobe not to appreciate the good work they are doing.

[little icebear]

Is this a kind of a right-wing plot within certain news-outlets that only produces attention on topics which makes Britain look as if its society is about to be taken over by the non-white immigrants?

Please, British users: Is it that horrible? Is Britain about to be turned into a islamic theocracy or is this blown-out of porportion fear-mongering?
Is Prince Charles about to convert and will the queen wear a burka anytime soon?

[Lov3ll]

I wonder if/when the people of the UK are going scream "Enough!" with all this out of control political correctness;seems like there's a new story that comes out every couple of weeks

:-(

We already have but our politicians are all spineless and bow down as to not be called "racists", the conservatives are hardly any different from the current labour government they figured if they were to ever get into power again then they would have to steal most of labours policies including all the PC bollocks, most of the politicians are so clueless it's unbelievable one of the politicians who came up with "hug a huddie" seemed shocked that after chasing some thieves they would just turn around and kick his head in.

[ex1cdo]

No way, in Newspeak Wussy Euro Londonistan, they would get the Order of the Dhimmi from the Queen for this outstanding achievement. I applaud them in this effort, and I think that you must be a racist nazi homophobe not to appreciate the good work they are doing.

Perhaps that should be "Dimmy", as in a diminutive contraction of "dim-wit" p-)

[sektor]

what is that ****???

[sexyhamburger]

Sigh, and the Darwin award goes to.....

Seriously this doesn't make sense, so I did like spicy food all my life and I'm a white kid does that make me Nelson Mandela? This is too stupid

[Lee]

I guess its inevitable that someday there will be an extreme reaction to all that racists garbage.

[Mu-Meson]

Is this a kind of a right-wing plot within certain news-outlets that only produces attention on topics which makes Britain look as if its society is about to be taken over by the non-white immigrants?

Please, British users: Is it that horrible? Is Britain about to be turned into a islamic theocracy or is this blown-out of porportion fear-mongering?
Is Prince Charles about to convert and will the queen wear a burka anytime soon?

The sheer variety, and frequency of these incidents make it unlikely to be a conspiracy by "right-wing" groups. And a number of people of influence have suggested allowing sharia law to be practiced. Its a slippery slope, in my view, and Britain is sliding.

PS I am a British citizen so I guess I count as a British user.

[wildcat]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/education/2261307/Toddlers-who-dislike-spicy-food-racist,-say-report.html

Are they that far now that choosy white children are racists just because they don't like a spicy meal? It's no good idea to feed toddlers with spicy dishes at all, by the way.

On a side note, shouldn't they better check on non-white children as this report indicates:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article4220467.ece

wow i guess they had to justify there 12 million, and to stop somebody from snooping at how the money was wasted, just blame it on white kids tactic.

I hated spicy food when younger, I was no racist, by best friend and enemy (same person,we would have a big punch up at least once a year, then were friends again) was black.

This is story is just pure leftist academic BS.

It seem they are targeting whites only, just BS, all it is.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

I wonder if/when the people of the UK are going scream "Enough!" with all this out of control political correctness;seems like there's a new story that comes out every couple of weeks

:-(Funny enough the only time I hear of this PC stuff is on MP.net it never really obstructs my daily passage through life.

[gaz]

I wonder if/when the people of the UK are going scream "Enough!" with all this out of control political correctness;seems like there's a new story that comes out every couple of weeks

:-(

Never, if only for the reason most us have enough commonsense to know it's complete bollocks and just ignore it.

[gaz]

Funny enough the only time I hear of this PC stuff is on MP.net it never really obstructs my daily passage through life.

It's mildly disturbing that we both pretty much said the same thing at the same time in reply to a nine hour old post.

[muck]

No way, in Newspeak Wussy Euro Londonistan, they would get the Order of the Dhimmi from the Queen for this outstanding achievement. I applaud them in this effort, and I think that you must be a racist nazi homophobe not to appreciate the good work they are doing.
Where have you been during the last months and years?

[bersaglieri]

2 Scenarios from the primary classroom......

...1....Little Johnny is given a pakora for lunch and as he is currently only eating cheddar cheese sandwiches that week , despite all the efforts of his mother to entice him onto everything else he normally eats, says "Yuk!"

...2....Little Jamal is given a cheese sandwich for lunch and as he is currently eating only pakoras that week , despite all the efforts of his mother to entice him onto everything else he normally eats, says "Yuk!"


Which is going to be sent home with an official warning about his behaviour and which is going to be congratulated for his cultural solidarity? No prizes I'm afraid. These idiotic types of rules pay no attention to the fact that all kids have the most quixotic tastes in food and will swear blind they hate stuff they have been eating by the bucketload for years just to wind you up.


On another note - there was a High Court trial in Glasgow a couple of years ago in which several witnesses came into court and described a robbery at the "Paki shop" only to be loudly castigated by the judge for making unacceptable racist comments - "How dare you denigrate this hard working Asian family etc etc"

Then the shopkeeper , a Mr Patel , was called to give evidence.
"And your occupation Mr Patel?"
"Oh I own and run The Paki Shop"
"cough cough - I take it you mean you own a small corner store?"
"No it's called The Paki Shop - look at the photographs the police took and you will see my sign "The Paki Shop" , everyone in the area uses it and knows me!"

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

It's mildly disturbing that we both pretty much said the same thing at the same time in reply to a nine hour old post.I do admit its a bit odd, but hey great minds think alike.

[budgie]

I dislike toddlers period. the harder they are persecuted for their beliefs, the better. I think they're icky and smelly and yuck.

[Calanen]

As part of this program, what should happen is that all the Racist Toddlers that have been apprehended be paraded through the city square in a cage, while people throw rotten tomatoes at them and shout 'Go back to your own country you white racist bastards!'

The Committee Against UnBritish Food-Eating Activities should be created, with extraordinary powers to investigate and stamp out all racist actitivities. One of its first tasks is to ban black garbage bags. Ever thought about why garbage bags are black? Because - society wants you to associate black people with trash - so, anyone using a black garbage bag will be sentenced to life in prison to reflect on their UnPC like actitivies.

The war will be long and bloody, but we must keep fighting until there is no common sense left in the United Kingdom, and any independent thought outside the dogma of PC, is crushed and no more....

[wildcat]

I dislike toddlers period. the harder they are persecuted for their beliefs, the better. I think they're icky and smelly and yuck.

so you must be a racist if you don't eat the spicy toddler?rofl

[annihilation]

Seriously this can't be true. I love spicey food but my whole family wont touch it. Does that make them racist? I don't like ketchup and shoot I don't like indian food too much either. Does that make me racist? Stupid crap.

[wildcat]

my daughter eats peanut butter, raw broccoli, cheese, and toast. She no racist. She has never tried meat and is not into trying new things, yet.

[little icebear]

my daughter eats peanut butter, raw broccoli, cheese, and toast. She no racist.

If I was her dad, I wouldn´t worry whether she´s a racist or not... because judging from her eating habits, she´s apparently pregnant.

Find out who´s responsible and prepare the shotgun-wedding! ;)

[wildcat]

If I was her dad, I wouldn´t worry whether she´s a racist or not... because judging from her eating habits, she´s apparently pregnant.

Find out who´s responsible and prepare the shotgun-wedding! ;)

you sicko, she 4.:)

[little icebear]

Damn, that´s young... crazy world we live in. :D

[Supplanter]

As Pakistani is the correct demonym,

I should have looked that up first :cantbeli: Thanks:)

[MaverickCowboy]

i honestly thought this was a joke and laughed m a$$ off. then i realisd this wasent a joke...o_____o

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I hate junk food and love spicy curries.

Does this make me an anti American jihadi?:roll:

[INAT]

Big brother run amuck.

[Billy No Mates]

I hate junk food and love spicy curries.

Does this make me an anti American jihadi?:roll:

I dont know,i love curries but am an Obersturmbanfuehrer in my local chapter of Combat 18 so now im all confused .

Oh and if any country has Broccoli as it's national dish,my son hates you as he becomes enraged at the mere sight of the stuff .

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I dont know,i love curries but am an Obersturmbanfuehrer in my local chapter of Combat 18 so now im all confused .

Oh and if any country has Broccoli as it's national dish,my son hates you as he becomes enraged at the mere sight of the stuff .

I don't like ginger (unless its a 'hidden' ingredient in curries) does this mean I'm anti Scottish?

[PeterRJG]

I don't like ginger (unless its a 'hidden' ingredient in curries) does this mean I'm anti Scottish?

How do you feel about porridge?

[smalandian]

Or haggis?...

[a_very_ex_STAB]

How do you feel about porridge?

Like porridge so I guess I'm not anti Scottish

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Or haggis?...

Arrgh no not haggis!!!!

Skirt wearing nancy boys. I hate them

[Billy No Mates]

I don't like ginger (unless its a 'hidden' ingredient in curries) does this mean I'm anti Scottish?

Definitely,you will be taken to a re-education centre and force feed a diet of Irn-bru with buckfast chasers and deepfried shortbread until you profess your love for our wirey haired neighbours .

[AmandlaEwetu]

i personally know lots of racists who love curry......:)

[oldsoak]

If we had'nt annexed India, the world would have never heard of it :-P

- I'll get me coat.....

[Bushranger]

Another stupid PC thing from England................ Whats doing hey???

[big_les]

The idea may well be daft liberal nonsense, but as the story (as with all such "PC" stories) has been created by right wing press, the only way you'll know is by going back to source i.e. the quote in the 300+ page document. Chances are it doesn't say quite what the article claims it says.

If there's eye-rolling to be done here, it's at the waste of taxpayer's money involved in drafting such documents in the first place, not at the perfectly sensible sentiment that if a child refuses some foreign food, you should make sure it's because they don't like it (or are being ornery), and not because someone accidentally taped Romper Stomper over Teletubbies ;)

[Fiber]

I watched a "documentary" about a british kid who only ate the yellow jelly in Jaffa Cakes. He was like a Food-Hitler!

[Billy No Mates]

I watched a "documentary" about a british kid who only ate the yellow jelly in Jaffa Cakes. He was like a Food-Hitler!

Can't blame him,its the food of the gods .

[Hydro]

you should make sure it's because they don't like it (or are being ornery), and not because someone accidentally taped Romper Stomper over Teletubbies ;)



I'm not sure young children have socially developed enough to reject food because of its origins; I doubt a 5 or 6 year old will say "I ain't eating that 'cos Pakis eat it" - how on earth will a child that young automatically know where such specialty food comes from? Unless primary schools do international culinary studies now. I wouldn't worry about a child turning their nose up at anything unless it's followed by a derogatory remark (which I'll bet the kid doesn't even know the true meaning of), kids tastes change like the weather.

[Connaught Ranger]

So what will be their opinion of non-white children who turn their noses up at pork dishes??

Connaught Ranger

[Connaught Ranger]

Another stupid PC thing from England................ Whats doing hey???

Err....... its from Great Britain, of which England is a part of, but not the whole.

[Billy No Mates]

Err....... its from Great Britain, of which England is a part of, but not the whole.

Its the important bit where all the proper people live so its understandable for a foreigner to focus on it .

[Connaught Ranger]

Its the important bit where all the proper people live so its understandable for a foreigner to focus on it .

You would be quite surprised at the mix of nationalities, Colours and Creeds ncluding their politics, who live inside the boundaries of "Ye Olde Englande".:p

I am not sure if "proper people" would cover all the sinners and saints there.:)

Connaught Ranger:)

[Billy No Mates]

You would be quite surprised at the mix of nationalities, Colours and Creeds ncluding their politics, who live inside the boundaries of "Ye Olde Englande".:p

I am not sure if "proper people" would cover all the sinners and saints there.:)

Connaught Ranger:)

Now i look at it what i said could ironically enough be construed as racist so i would like to apologise to all the porridge wogs,bog trotters and sheep shaggers out there .

[The Balkan]

Lol not all foriegn food is spicy.

[Connaught Ranger]

Now i look at it what i said could ironically enough be construed as racist so i would like to apologise to all the porridge wogs,bog trotters and sheep shaggers out there .

Glad to see you gave pride of place to your own tribep-)

[Angrykirill]

I'm not sure young children have socially developed enough to reject food because of its origins; I doubt a 5 or 6 year old will say "I ain't eating that 'cos Pakis eat it" - how on earth will a child that young automatically know where such specialty food comes from? Unless primary schools do international culinary studies now. I wouldn't worry about a child turning their nose up at anything unless it's followed by a derogatory remark (which I'll bet the kid doesn't even know the true meaning of), kids tastes change like the weather.

Seconded, agree with everything said. I would also like to read that book before I make further conclusions.

[Calanen]

Children as young as three should be reported for 'racism', Government-funded group claims
By Steve Doughty (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=y&authornamef=Steve+Doughty)


Last updated at 8:24 AM on 07th July 2008

Comments (11) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1032650/Children-young-reported-racism-Government-funded-group-claims.html#comments)
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/07/article-1032650-01DEF9D800000578-709_233x340.jpg
Nursery teachers should inform on youngsters such as these if there is a 'racist incident', says a Government-funded advisory group


Toddlers should be taught about racism and singled out for criticism if they have racist attitudes, a Government-funded advisory group said yesterday.

It told nursery teachers, playgroup leaders and childminders to record and report every racist incident involving children as young as three.

These could include saying 'Yuk' about unfamiliar food.
Even babies should not be ignored in the hunt for racism because they can 'recognise different people in their lives', a new guide for nurseries and child care centres said.
The instructions for staff in charge of pre-school children in day care have been produced by the National Children's Bureau, which receives £12million a year, mostly through taxpayer-funded organisations.

The NCB, which describes itself as 'an umbrella body for the children's sector', has long used its resources to campaign on controversial issues, for example in favour of a legal ban on smacking by parents.


It also runs the *** Education Forum, a campaign for more *** education in schools.

The new 366-page guide, Young Children and Racial Justice, warned that 'racist incidents among children in early years settings-tend to be around name-calling-casual thoughtless comments, and peer group relationships'.


It said such incidents could include children using words like 'blackie', 'Pakis', 'those people' or 'they smell'.

Children might also 'react negatively to a culinary tradition other than their own by saying "yuk".'

Nursery staff are told: 'No racist incident should be ignored. When there is a clear racist intent, it is necessary to be specific in condemning the action.'

If children 'reveal negative attitudes the lack of censure may indicate to the child that there is nothing unacceptable about such attitudes'.

Nurseries are encouraged to report as many racist incidents as possible to local councils.

'Some people think that if a large number of racist incidents are reported, this will reflect badly on the institution,' it said. 'In fact, the opposite is the case.'

The guidance said that anyone who disagrees is racist themselves.

It also suggests cultivating the home languages of new immigrants - despite Government anxiety to promote the learning of English.

It said: 'English is now viewed as the major language of the world but this is not because it has any innate linguistic advantages - it is because English is the language of power in a world dominated by English-speaking peoples.'

Critics of the race programme for pre- school children labelled it 'totalitarian'.

Author and researcher on family life Patricia Morgan said: 'Stepping in to stop severe bullying is one thing, but this is interference in the lives of children. It smacks of totalitarianism.

'It is regulation of private speech and thought. They intend nursery staff to step into children's playground squabbles and then report them to the local council as race incidents. Who would ever have thought that the anti-racism crusade would go so far?'


</H1></H2>http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/07/article-0-01DEB8D400000578-708_233x347.jpg Judge Jonathan Finestein ordered the local authority to review its decision to prosecute


A boy of ten has already been taken to court for calling a mixed race 11-year-old 'Paki' and 'Bin Laden' in a school playground argument.

The pair subsequently made up and became friends again, yet the Crown Prosecution Service decided to go ahead because the victim's mother made a complaint.

The ten- year- old eventually appeared at Salford Youth Court in 2006 where he denied a raciallymotivated offence under the Public Order Act of using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent to cause another person harm or distress.

But District Judge Jonathan Finestein (pictured) ordered the authorities to review their decision to prosecute.

He said of the defendant: 'I shouldn't think he understands Bin Laden or Al Qaeda. I'm not condoning what he supposedly said but there must be other ways of dealing with this apart from criminal prosecution.'

Prosecutors later decided not to pursue the case.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1032650/Children-young-reported-racism-Government-funded-group-claims.html

[Calanen]

That is just incredible. That they would arrest an 11 year old for calling someone else in the playground a 'Paki' and bring him before a District Court judge for trial?

The Star Chamber really is out of control there. The resources of the Courts and the Police are stretched to the max, but no we have time to put together a brief of evidence, refer it to the CPS for Prosecution and bring it to trial in the District Court. That would have cost a *bomb*. And I imagine the Judge gave the Crown a bollocking and they went away with their tails between their legs. But at least now they can add one more 'serious racist incident prosecuted' on their list for their reports at the end of the year.

[Gulag]

Is it fun? Hope it is... BS

[big_les]

Calanen, any chance you could generate some original material rather than just copypasta from the Daily fvcking Mail?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=38187

Nobody in the UK with more than three braincells trusts that paper, because they damn well twist and lie. I'm sure some of these stories have a nugget of misguided truth to them, but DM stories are naught but propaganda. At least the Telegraph has a decent reputation.

[Calanen]

Calanen, any chance you could generate some original material rather than just copypasta from the Daily fvcking Mail?

Original material? You want me pounding the beat as a reporter now and finding my own stories? Would you trust that more? Or would you say i was just a right wing extremist making up stories?

The Daily Mail is a tabloid, and if i was posting 'Alien Elvis Hybrid had my baby' then I would understand your skepticism. But perhaps better to say, this didn't happen, if you know it didnt, then just attacking the source.




http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=38187

Nobody in the UK with more than three braincells trusts that paper, because they damn well twist and lie. I'm sure some of these stories have a nugget of misguided truth to them, but DM stories are naught but propaganda.

Well when I quote lies, say why they are lies or post a response. But just, oh Daily Mail must be a lie..is a bit silly.


At least the Telegraph has a decent reputation.

Funny you should say that...here is the article from the Telegraph.

CPS 'is crazy' to take playtime insults to court

By Nick Britten

Last Updated: 12:01am BST 07/04/2006

A judge lambasted the police and Crown Prosecution Service yesterday for taking a 10-year-old boy to court over a playground spat.

District Judge Jonathan Finestein said the decision to prosecute the youngster - accused of calling a fellow pupil a "Paki" and a "******" - was "political correctness gone mad".

He attacked the police for not "bothering" to prosecute more serious crime such as car theft but readily picking on a "silly" incident.

He added that he used to be called fat at school and said that in the old days the headmaster would have given the children "a good clouting" and sent them on their way.

Judge Finestein spoke out when the boy, from Irlam,

Greater Manchester, appeared at Salford youth court accused of racially abusing a fellow pupil.

He called an 11-year-old boy "Paki", allegedly referred to him as "bin Laden" and chanted: "He's on the run, pull the trigger and shoot the ******". He is said to have made the comments in the school playground between July 1 last year and Jan 30 this year.

The 10-year-old denied the racially aggravated public order offence and said he was now friends with the boy.

He admitted calling him a "Paki" but said he did not use any other racist terms and claimed the complainant had called him "white trash".

Judge Finestein said he thought prosecuting the youngster was "crazy" and urged the Crown Prosecution Service to reverse its decision. He said: "Have we really got to the stage where we are prosecuting 10-year-old boys because of political correctness? I was repeatedly called fat at school. Does this amount to a criminal offence?

"This is political correctness gone mad. It's crazy. Nobody is more against racist abuse than me but these are boys in a playground. This is nonsense."

He did not condone what was supposedly said but doubted the defendant understood bin Laden or al-Qa'eda and said there "must be other ways of dealing with this apart from criminal prosecution".

He added: "In the old days the headmaster would have given them a good clouting."

It was wrong for children to have racist views, he said, but he was "anxious to avoid the criminal conviction of somebody so young".

Addressing the boy's parents, he said: "I'm not blaming you, kids hear these things, but to refer to people as Pakis or refer to their race or religion is wrong."

He told the court: "This is how stupid the system is getting. There are major crimes out there and the police don't bother to prosecute. If you get your car stolen it doesn't matter, but you get two kids falling out because of racist comments - this is nonsense."

Judge Finestein adjourned the case so the Crown Prosecution Service could decide whether it was in the public interest to proceed with the prosecution.

A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said it took all reports of crime seriously and remained totally opposed to racism in any form.

The Crown Prosecution Service said that because proceedings were ongoing it would not comment.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2006/04/07/nspat07.xml

[loganinkosovo]

I didn't like spicy food until I was in my 20's and Kim Chee and Nuc Mam are still plain unadulterated Sh!t in my book!

People of the same ethnicity of the food don't like it. I was watching a TV show about Korea where a Korean couple were forcing their toddler to eat kim chee since it was the national dish and she had to eat it. She was balling her eyes out with a gob of that awful Sh!t in her mouth. That is true child abuse if you ask me.

Maybe someone should run these twits up on child abuse charges?

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/410.jpg

[Bia]

It's so absurd... it's hard to believe.

[Fiber]

Kimchi is yummy!

[big_les]

Original material? You want me pounding the beat as a reporter now and finding my own stories? Would you trust that more? Or would you say i was just a right wing extremist making up stories?

Most people posting news stories simply post a headline, maybe a precis, and then offer and ask for comment. You're just copying and pasting whole articles, primarily from the one source.


The Daily Mail is a tabloid, and if i was posting 'Alien Elvis Hybrid had my baby' then I would understand your skepticism. But perhaps better to say, this didn't happen, if you know it didnt, then just attacking the source.

You can't prove a negative, I've already offered alternate explanations for some of your quoted articles, but I can't possibly know the real details. What I can know is the Mail has a well-deserved reputation and has been caught out often enough for the default position to be one of scepticism;

http://5cc.blogspot.com/2007/05/how-daily-mail-lies-about-immigration_25.html

http://dogstarscribe.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/the-daily-mail-talks-rubbish-again/

http://www.badscience.net/category/media/papers-mail/

The constant anti-PC stories are laughable;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-379114/Baa-baa-rainbow-sheep.html

This is in fact an urban myth of sorts that the Mail seems desperate to prove;

http://rhetoricallyspeaking.blogspot.com/2006/03/baa-baa-bull****-lies-more-lies-mail.html

Frankly, any news story should be viewed critically when the evidence is only anecdotal, but these cretins are less reliable than most journalists.


Well when I quote lies, say why they are lies or post a response. But just, oh Daily Mail must be a lie..is a bit silly.

See above - they have more form for it than most, and a transparently partisan agenda.




Funny you should say that...here is the article from the Telegraph.

CPS 'is crazy' to take playtime insults to court

By Nick Britten

Last Updated: 12:01am BST 07/04/2006

A judge lambasted the police and Crown Prosecution Service yesterday for taking a 10-year-old boy to court over a playground spat.

District Judge Jonathan Finestein said the decision to prosecute the youngster - accused of calling a fellow pupil a "Paki" and a "******" - was "political correctness gone mad".

He attacked the police for not "bothering" to prosecute more serious crime such as car theft but readily picking on a "silly" incident.

He added that he used to be called fat at school and said that in the old days the headmaster would have given the children "a good clouting" and sent them on their way.

Judge Finestein spoke out when the boy, from Irlam,

Greater Manchester, appeared at Salford youth court accused of racially abusing a fellow pupil.

He called an 11-year-old boy "Paki", allegedly referred to him as "bin Laden" and chanted: "He's on the run, pull the trigger and shoot the ******". He is said to have made the comments in the school playground between July 1 last year and Jan 30 this year.

The 10-year-old denied the racially aggravated public order offence and said he was now friends with the boy.

He admitted calling him a "Paki" but said he did not use any other racist terms and claimed the complainant had called him "white trash".

Judge Finestein said he thought prosecuting the youngster was "crazy" and urged the Crown Prosecution Service to reverse its decision. He said: "Have we really got to the stage where we are prosecuting 10-year-old boys because of political correctness? I was repeatedly called fat at school. Does this amount to a criminal offence?

"This is political correctness gone mad. It's crazy. Nobody is more against racist abuse than me but these are boys in a playground. This is nonsense."

He did not condone what was supposedly said but doubted the defendant understood bin Laden or al-Qa'eda and said there "must be other ways of dealing with this apart from criminal prosecution".

He added: "In the old days the headmaster would have given them a good clouting."

It was wrong for children to have racist views, he said, but he was "anxious to avoid the criminal conviction of somebody so young".

Addressing the boy's parents, he said: "I'm not blaming you, kids hear these things, but to refer to people as Pakis or refer to their race or religion is wrong."

He told the court: "This is how stupid the system is getting. There are major crimes out there and the police don't bother to prosecute. If you get your car stolen it doesn't matter, but you get two kids falling out because of racist comments - this is nonsense."

Judge Finestein adjourned the case so the Crown Prosecution Service could decide whether it was in the public interest to proceed with the prosecution.

A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said it took all reports of crime seriously and remained totally opposed to racism in any form.

The Crown Prosecution Service said that because proceedings were ongoing it would not comment.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2006/04/07/nspat07.xml

I quite agree with the good judge - the police took it too far. That's what they do, and that's why we have a CPS and legal system, to moderate them. They try to enforce laws, and sometimes they get it wrong.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Big Les

You really should know better than to criticize the Daily Mail you'll give its coffin dodging readership cardiac arrhythmias and undermine the simplistic world view of legions of armchair neocons on this site. :roll:

[big_les]

This is my favourite, and should ring a bell with at least some of our posting colleagues here;

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/30/video_game_terrorist_doomsday/

Just classic.

[welshmann]

Now i look at it what i said could ironically enough be construed as racist so i would like to apologise to all the porridge wogs,bog trotters and sheep shaggers out there .

spicey sheep i hope!

[oldsoak]

I dont like the Daily Mail as it cries "wolf" far too often. Having said that, I recall the boy being right at the end the story - much to the detriment of the sheep.
If these stories are tommyrot, then they need to be exposed as such by other papers - and I 'm not sure I see that happening. This could mean that its all below them, or they are withholding for a reason. One hopes its not for fear of controversy a la Jyllands-Posten.

[Billy No Mates]

spicey sheep i hope!

Of course i wouldn't be so culturally insensative as to suggest anything else .

[big_les]

I dont like the Daily Mail as it cries "wolf" far too often. Having said that, I recall the boy being right at the end the story - much to the detriment of the sheep.
If these stories are tommyrot, then they need to be exposed as such by other papers - and I 'm not sure I see that happening. This could mean that its all below them, or they are withholding for a reason. One hopes its not for fear of controversy a la Jyllands-Posten.

I think it's tradition and fear of reprisal that stops "respectable" papers from sticking the boot in too hard on the tabloids. It's not an editorial policy to snipe at other papers - journalists are supposed to report the news, not debunk other people's work. Added to which, politically the right-of-centre papers risk hurting their own readership if they do so. Most of the people calling the Mail on its BS are bloggers and the like. But columnists within left-wing papers do frequently rag on them. Charlie Brooker and Ben Goldacre spring to mind, both Guardian residents. Badscience.net documented the misguided and partly Mail-led campaign to stop the MMR vaccine.

The Guardian, amongst many others, reported the Mail cheerfully publishing Kathleen Turner's lies about Nicholas Cage, and getting sued as a result;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/apr/04/dailymail.medialaw?gusrc=rss&feed=16

Bit of a theme here, but hey, they are their arch-enemies - the guardian report the Mail getting a pasting for their bad science stories;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/dec/06/sciencenews.gmcrops

[Aryan_Singh]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/education/2261307/Toddlers-who-dislike-spicy-food-racist,-say-report.html

Are they that far now that choosy white children are racists just because they don't like a spicy meal? It's no good idea to feed toddlers with spicy dishes at all, by the way.

On a side note, shouldn't they better check on non-white children as this report indicates:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article4220467.ece


The people at the National Children's Bureau are not a bunch of nutheads. they know what they are doing and what impact it will have on society.

[Marshall_Nord]

I wonder if people who don’t eat dairy products are racists towards those who have the proper enzymes for digestion?